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I currently have the Note 3 and even though I have to admit, it is an awesome phone when it's rooted and loaded with a custom ROM/Kernel. With that being said, I just don't use the features that make the phone different to the rest, such as the stylus.
I could say that maybe 3-4 times, I've used the stylus, that's it. And lately the dropped calls and the phone as a whole, is getting bit long on the tooth.
Seeing that I really don't need a stylus and the phone is I want to say, a "tad" too big for my hands; is the LG G3 a good phone to switch to?
Would it be an upgrade for me? Or more like a lateral move or perhaps even a downgrade?
Suggestions, advices?
BTW, is it hard to root the LG G3?
I have a note 3 and in the same boat as you. I absolutely despise amoled screens and that's the reason I want to move to lg g3. However, I don't know how I feel about the back minted buttons add I often use my phone on the desk and back mounted buttons can be an issue
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I've had all 3 Notes. I loved the phone. I didn't use the S-Pen that much either. I bought the Note 1, 2 and 3 purely on specs and screen size. Other manufacturers kept an eye on the Note sales and seen they were doing good. Now there is plenty of competition in the 5.5" plus category. If you switched from the Note 3 to to the LG G3 I really don't think you would be disappointed. It's a sweet device. Especially the knock on knock off for the screen.
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nohcho said:
I have a note 3 and in the same boat as you. I absolutely despise amoled screens and that's the reason I want to move to lg g3. However, I don't know how I feel about the back minted buttons add I often use my phone on the desk and back mounted buttons can be an issue
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NO issue at all, you can tap to turn on screen, as well as turn it off, there is a option for a volume slider in the notification area. I hardly ever use the buttons.
I cant speak for the note 3 but i do love my g3. The specs are better than the note 3 and it doesnt feel as bulky. Only thing the note 3 has is 64 gb opposed to 32 gb memory. But throw an sd card in and your good. The screen on the g3 is awesome plus the camera is pretty legit too. Hope this helps
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nohcho said:
I have a note 3 and in the same boat as you. I absolutely despise amoled screens and that's the reason I want to move to lg g3. However, I don't know how I feel about the back minted buttons add I often use my phone on the desk and back mounted buttons can be an issue
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What you hate about the AMOLED screens? I really like the deep blacks when watching a show or movie. It's amazing to see just pitch black where it's supposed to be black.
From what I read, the back buttons take a bit of getting used to until mucle memory kicks in, and it then feels very intuitive. I think I could get used to that.
But back to the screen, what are the pros of the IPS screen over the AMOLED one?
budco2000 said:
I've had all 3 Notes. I loved the phone. I didn't use the S-Pen that much either. I bought the Note 1, 2 and 3 purely on specs and screen size. Other manufacturers kept an eye on the Note sales and seen they were doing good. Now there is plenty of competition in the 5.5" plus category. If you switched from the Note 3 to to the LG G3 I really don't think you would be disappointed. It's a sweet device. Especially the knock on knock off for the screen.
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NO issue at all, you can tap to turn on screen, as well as turn it off, there is a option for a volume slider in the notification area. I hardly ever use the buttons.
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Yea, seems like everyone is raving about that knock on knock off feature. I agree, the Note 3 is indeed a great phone but I just feel that I'm not the person for it. In other words, like I'm not getting the max potential out of it.
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What you hate about the AMOLED screens? I really like the deep blacks when watching a show or movie. It's amazing to see just pitch black where it's supposed to be black.
From what I read, the back buttons take a bit of getting used to until mucle memory kicks in, and it then feels very intuitive. I think I could get used to that.
But back to the screen, what are the pros of the IPS screen over the AMOLED one?
Yea, seems like everyone is raving about that knock on knock off feature. I agree, the Note 3 is indeed a great phone but I just feel that I'm not the person for it. In other words, like I'm not getting the max potential out of it.
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I'm also a fan of AMOLED. I like the deep blacks and the vibrant colors. The G3 LCD screen is not bad at all. I've had the last 2 generations of the Nexus 7 so I'm used to both screen types.
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What you hate about the AMOLED screens? I really like the deep blacks when watching a show or movie. It's amazing to see just pitch black where it's supposed to be black.
From what I read, the back buttons take a bit of getting used to until mucle memory kicks in, and it then feels very intuitive. I think I could get used to that.
But back to the screen, what are the pros of the IPS screen over the AMOLED one?
Yea, seems like everyone is raving about that knock on knock off feature. I agree, the Note 3 is indeed a great phone but I just feel that I'm not the person for it. In other words, like I'm not getting the max potential out of it.
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While I do agree that amoled screens display deep blacks and all, but thats just part of a story. The fact still stands that amoled screens aee not very accurate color reproducesrs, blue whites, power consuption when displaying anything other than dark colors, burn in issues.
People love deep blacks beacause those pixels are completely shut of. But oversaturation is an issue that still persists on amoled screens. So thos are my gripes.
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While I do agree that amoled screens display deep blacks and all, but thats just part of a story. The fact still stands that amoled screens aee not very accurate color reproducesrs, blue whites, power consuption when displaying anything other than dark colors, burn in issues.
People love deep blacks beacause those pixels are completely shut of. But oversaturation is an issue that still persists on amoled screens. So thos are my gripes.
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Thanks for that and those are valid concerns, though I don't hold those high in my list of things when it comes to displays. Personally, I will look for perfection when it comes to the projector in my home cinema which powers my 135", 16:9 screen. For the occasional movie or show I might watch on a 5" screen, I don't worry about oversaturation or if the color hue is a bit off. But that is just me and I respect your opinion.
I got the Note 3 with Sprint as soon as it came out last year, Oct 2013. I was the same as you and only used the stylus for a few months before I didn't use it anymore, just didn't really need to or remembered that I had it. The Note 3, with my added case, was a bit too bulky in my hand and my hands are large. After a while of holding it while reading the news or books, my hand would start to cramp. It's a nice phone but just a tad too large to hold and carry in one's pocket.
Holding the G3 is a A LOT better and easier over the Note 3 and the screen is just about as large (0.2" smaller IIRC from the Note 3). It feels a lot more comfortable, even with the a tad bulky Supcase Beetle case on it. Makes a helluva difference on the train, holding the phone in one hand and the pole in the other.
Though, it was a bit unusual to get use to the G3 colors and screen, coming from the extremely saturated Note 3 AMOLED, especially since I had kept it on extra saturated mode (forgot it was on that) for months. The G3 screen looks a bit washed out compared to the Note 3, but you get use to it after a week, as I did. It did win an award for best RGB color representation, if that matters to you.
As with you, I left Sprint due to the very poor coverage, bad call quality and dropped calls. Tmo is much, much better and the G3 call quality is great, especially when it even tells you on a call if the call is HD Voice or not, it'll let you know. It does have Wi-Fi calling and it *might* get the VoLTE later this year if you're in a market with it or soon will be.
I did root my G3 with Purple Drake and it was the easiest root ever I have ever done with rooting my phones in the past 5yrs over seven separate device models since I started rooting, and it's just unbelievably easy and quick to do with the G3 and thecubed's Windows zip. You won't realize it till you actually root it and go "Wow, that was easy."
Also, I changed the DPI on my two G3's to 560 and the screen is much better to navigate and doesn't look so cluttered over the 640 stock DPI, looks much more streamlined and smooth, but you can change it from 530-640 for your tastes. It's a great screen, but the icons are a bit too large and the Notification panel needs to be scrolled once you just get a few popups, but the new DPI fixes that.
There is an app called G3 Tweaksbox that unlocks and lets you modify PLENTY of features and more on the G3 after you root it and install the Xposed installer. I am still using the free version but will be buying the premium ($1.50), as there are plenty more features unlocked with it and very well seems worth it.
Even with the lack of a full ROM for the Tmo G3 so far, the G3 Tweaksbox makes it almost negligible with the features is gives.
The G3 feels just as smooth as the Note 3 and once I cleaned off the bloatware and other programs and processes, it runs smooth and purrs with battery life comparable to the Note 3. I always had my Note 3 on 100% brightness and I'm getting the same battery life on the G3 with the same settings and all on it.
Coming from the Note 3 to the G3, it does take a little learning curve with the rear buttons, cause I kept reaching for the side power button or the hard Home button. But, once you get use to the buttons and layout, it's a wonder you never thought of this layout earlier.
Add in the Knock-On and you're going to be using it nonstop. The one part I did find a bit annoying was when I had my phone flat on the desk all day, face up, I couldn't access the power button to restart. But, I just installed QuickBoot and dropped a widget for Reboot and use that for a super quick restart without having to flip or pickup the phone.
It's good and it's snappy, I don't think you'll be disppointed but not entirely sure you'll be wow'd by it, coming from the Note 3. If you were coming from a earlier generation phone (like the HTC One M7, that my wife had), you'll be really surprised by it, as she was.
But I haven't complained about it, so that, in my opinion, makes it good, because if it wasn't, I would be swapping it for another device.
The one thing you might not like is the extra sharpening on the text that LG did for some extremely odd reason. It only appears with a semi dark background, like white text on gray or vice versa, the text gets a halo effect. You can find plenty of threads about that on here, it's not too distracting and you get use to it after a while, but it's not overly distracting or straining.
That's my opinion on it, if you root and clean up the bloatware and make some easy changes, I think you'll be happy with the phone and what it can and will do.
Any other questions, I'll try and answer them if I can.
AviatorBimmer said:
What you hate about the AMOLED screens? I really like the deep blacks when watching a show or movie. It's amazing to see just pitch black where it's supposed to be black.
From what I read, the back buttons take a bit of getting used to until mucle memory kicks in, and it then feels very intuitive. I think I could get used to that.
But back to the screen, what are the pros of the IPS screen over the AMOLED one?
Yea, seems like everyone is raving about that knock on knock off feature. I agree, the Note 3 is indeed a great phone but I just feel that I'm not the person for it. In other words, like I'm not getting the max potential out of it.
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One major concern of AMOLED is burn.
Fortunately, I did not have any even after 9 months of use (some look pretty bad on G Flex).
JustLok said:
I got the Note 3 with Sprint as soon as it came out last year, Oct 2013. I was the same as you and only used the stylus for a few months before I didn't use it anymore, just didn't really need to or remembered that I had it. The Note 3, with my added case, was a bit too bulky in my hand and my hands are large. After a while of holding it while reading the news or books, my hand would start to cramp. It's a nice phone but just a tad too large to hold and carry in one's pocket.
Holding the G3 is a A LOT better and easier over the Note 3 and the screen is just about as large (0.2" smaller IIRC from the Note 3). It feels a lot more comfortable, even with the a tad bulky Supcase Beetle case on it. Makes a helluva difference on the train, holding the phone in one hand and the pole in the other.
Though, it was a bit unusual to get use to the G3 colors and screen, coming from the extremely saturated Note 3 AMOLED, especially since I had kept it on extra saturated mode (forgot it was on that) for months. The G3 screen looks a bit washed out compared to the Note 3, but you get use to it after a week, as I did. It did win an award for best RGB color representation, if that matters to you.
As with you, I left Sprint due to the very poor coverage, bad call quality and dropped calls. Tmo is much, much better and the G3 call quality is great, especially when it even tells you on a call if the call is HD Voice or not, it'll let you know. It does have Wi-Fi calling and it *might* get the VoLTE later this year if you're in a market with it or soon will be.
I did root my G3 with Purple Drake and it was the easiest root ever I have ever done with rooting my phones in the past 5yrs over seven separate device models since I started rooting, and it's just unbelievably easy and quick to do with the G3 and thecubed's Windows zip. You won't realize it till you actually root it and go "Wow, that was easy."
Also, I changed the DPI on my two G3's to 560 and the screen is much better to navigate and doesn't look so cluttered over the 640 stock DPI, looks much more streamlined and smooth, but you can change it from 530-640 for your tastes. It's a great screen, but the icons are a bit too large and the Notification panel needs to be scrolled once you just get a few popups, but the new DPI fixes that.
There is an app called G3 Tweaksbox that unlocks and lets you modify PLENTY of features and more on the G3 after you root it and install the Xposed installer. I am still using the free version but will be buying the premium ($1.50), as there are plenty more features unlocked with it and very well seems worth it.
Even with the lack of a full ROM for the Tmo G3 so far, the G3 Tweaksbox makes it almost negligible with the features is gives.
The G3 feels just as smooth as the Note 3 and once I cleaned off the bloatware and other programs and processes, it runs smooth and purrs with battery life comparable to the Note 3. I always had my Note 3 on 100% brightness and I'm getting the same battery life on the G3 with the same settings and all on it.
Coming from the Note 3 to the G3, it does take a little learning curve with the rear buttons, cause I kept reaching for the side power button or the hard Home button. But, once you get use to the buttons and layout, it's a wonder you never thought of this layout earlier.
Add in the Knock-On and you're going to be using it nonstop. The one part I did find a bit annoying was when I had my phone flat on the desk all day, face up, I couldn't access the power button to restart. But, I just installed QuickBoot and dropped a widget for Reboot and use that for a super quick restart without having to flip or pickup the phone.
It's good and it's snappy, I don't think you'll be disppointed but not entirely sure you'll be wow'd by it, coming from the Note 3. If you were coming from a earlier generation phone (like the HTC One M7, that my wife had), you'll be really surprised by it, as she was.
But I haven't complained about it, so that, in my opinion, makes it good, because if it wasn't, I would be swapping it for another device.
The one thing you might not like is the extra sharpening on the text that LG did for some extremely odd reason. It only appears with a semi dark background, like white text on gray or vice versa, the text gets a halo effect. You can find plenty of threads about that on here, it's not too distracting and you get use to it after a while, but it's not overly distracting or straining.
That's my opinion on it, if you root and clean up the bloatware and make some easy changes, I think you'll be happy with the phone and what it can and will do.
Any other questions, I'll try and answer them if I can.
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WOW, thanks for taking the time for writing up such a nice and elaborate post. [emoji2]
I will definitely swing by TMO and check it out in person.
From what it seems, there really isn't even a need to install a custom ROM on it. With that app you mentioned, you can tweak your rooted phone and leave it running like a nicely, streamlined, custom ROM, sort of speak. Kudos for that.
Thanks again, buddy!
BTW, is the UI way better than TouchWiz?
I also came from Note 3.
The hardware is far superior than other high end models, but only G3 is comparable.
I don't want M8 because the battery is not removable (I have to replace battery once sometimes).
The reason why I jumped ship is Samsung's attitude. N900T only supports six languages and there's no other "hidden" languages. I am absolutely fine with English, but I'd prefer Trad Chinese interface (my native), but G3 has a lot of different languages even with Japanese and Arabic.
Note 3 screen is good and the contrast is unlimited, but G3 isn't bad at all. The only downside is mine has "cold" tint under outdoor sunlight. Viewing angle on G3 is pretty close to 180 degree without discoloration.
Even the screen is slightly smaller than Note 3, the total size of G3 is smaller and easier to handle (I have big palm and I can hold Note 8 with single hand).
Tap to wake (Knock on) is a pretty useful feature which I just tap twice to wake the phone though I just press home button on Note 3 to wake, but pressing home button causes some mis-operation sometimes in the bag.
Battery is slightly better on Note 3 (3.2Ah vs 3Ah), but it doesn't matter much because the battery is removable.
Both supports FAT64/SDXC.
Note 3 supports MHL2.0 but G3 does not, but Chromecast comes handy if you want to mirror screen to TV.
Calling quality on G3 is second to none. Wi-Fi calling on G3 is same as with cellular; Note 3, on the other hand, Wi-Fi calling is BAD (fading voice, chopping, distortion).
Though VoLTE isn't available on G3 at this time, I'd disable it because I hear nothing with VoLTE where the network is busy, so I have to use UMTS for cellular calling instead.
USB3 does not have much advantage on Note 3. If you have 2A or higher USB power supply, you can't tell the difference when charging.
Speakerphone and music playback is much louder on G3 (this reminds me S3 day which has exceptional speaker quality) than Note 3.
G3 can get hot easily when browsing internet continuously or playing CPU intensive games. It's same problem as S3 but G3 has thermal throttling. Note 3 seldom has overheat problem.
Music playback quality over headphones G3 is better with 192kbps ogg than Note 3, but the music may stutter (it's rare) when the unit is acquiring signal while Note 3 does not have such problem.
Angry Birds Star Wars and Angry Birds Star Wars II cannot be downloaded from Play Store, but it works fine after sideloading.
I personally prefer G3 over Note 3 though both have top notch hardware.
Good to hear all different inputs. I'm still undecided though. Note 3 is a serious piece of equipment that still holds up very well. But the smaller size on g3 May win me over as the Note 3 is just stupid big.
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Awesome thread so far!!! Nothing better than to read experiences from people just like me and in a similar situation. I agree, the decision is tough because the Note 3 is no slouch! LOL
JustLok said:
I got the Note 3 with Sprint as soon as it came out last year, Oct 2013. I was the same as you and only used the stylus for a few months before I didn't use it anymore, just didn't really need to or remembered that I had it. The Note 3, with my added case, was a bit too bulky in my hand and my hands are large. After a while of holding it while reading the news or books, my hand would start to cramp. It's a nice phone but just a tad too large to hold and carry in one's pocket.
Holding the G3 is a A LOT better and easier over the Note 3 and the screen is just about as large (0.2" smaller IIRC from the Note 3). It feels a lot more comfortable, even with the a tad bulky Supcase Beetle case on it. Makes a helluva difference on the train, holding the phone in one hand and the pole in the other.
Though, it was a bit unusual to get use to the G3 colors and screen, coming from the extremely saturated Note 3 AMOLED, especially since I had kept it on extra saturated mode (forgot it was on that) for months. The G3 screen looks a bit washed out compared to the Note 3, but you get use to it after a week, as I did. It did win an award for best RGB color representation, if that matters to you.
As with you, I left Sprint due to the very poor coverage, bad call quality and dropped calls. Tmo is much, much better and the G3 call quality is great, especially when it even tells you on a call if the call is HD Voice or not, it'll let you know. It does have Wi-Fi calling and it *might* get the VoLTE later this year if you're in a market with it or soon will be.
I did root my G3 with Purple Drake and it was the easiest root ever I have ever done with rooting my phones in the past 5yrs over seven separate device models since I started rooting, and it's just unbelievably easy and quick to do with the G3 and thecubed's Windows zip. You won't realize it till you actually root it and go "Wow, that was easy."
Also, I changed the DPI on my two G3's to 560 and the screen is much better to navigate and doesn't look so cluttered over the 640 stock DPI, looks much more streamlined and smooth, but you can change it from 530-640 for your tastes. It's a great screen, but the icons are a bit too large and the Notification panel needs to be scrolled once you just get a few popups, but the new DPI fixes that.
There is an app called G3 Tweaksbox that unlocks and lets you modify PLENTY of features and more on the G3 after you root it and install the Xposed installer. I am still using the free version but will be buying the premium ($1.50), as there are plenty more features unlocked with it and very well seems worth it.
Even with the lack of a full ROM for the Tmo G3 so far, the G3 Tweaksbox makes it almost negligible with the features is gives.
The G3 feels just as smooth as the Note 3 and once I cleaned off the bloatware and other programs and processes, it runs smooth and purrs with battery life comparable to the Note 3. I always had my Note 3 on 100% brightness and I'm getting the same battery life on the G3 with the same settings and all on it.
Coming from the Note 3 to the G3, it does take a little learning curve with the rear buttons, cause I kept reaching for the side power button or the hard Home button. But, once you get use to the buttons and layout, it's a wonder you never thought of this layout earlier.
Add in the Knock-On and you're going to be using it nonstop. The one part I did find a bit annoying was when I had my phone flat on the desk all day, face up, I couldn't access the power button to restart. But, I just installed QuickBoot and dropped a widget for Reboot and use that for a super quick restart without having to flip or pickup the phone.
It's good and it's snappy, I don't think you'll be disppointed but not entirely sure you'll be wow'd by it, coming from the Note 3. If you were coming from a earlier generation phone (like the HTC One M7, that my wife had), you'll be really surprised by it, as she was.
But I haven't complained about it, so that, in my opinion, makes it good, because if it wasn't, I would be swapping it for another device.
The one thing you might not like is the extra sharpening on the text that LG did for some extremely odd reason. It only appears with a semi dark background, like white text on gray or vice versa, the text gets a halo effect. You can find plenty of threads about that on here, it's not too distracting and you get use to it after a while, but it's not overly distracting or straining.
That's my opinion on it, if you root and clean up the bloatware and make some easy changes, I think you'll be happy with the phone and what it can and will do.
Any other questions, I'll try and answer them if I can.
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What did you use to change your DPI. I want to try 560 as well. Not sure if I should use an app, xposed, or just change it in the build prop with root explorer
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What did you use to change your DPI. I want to try 560 as well. Not sure if I should use an app, xposed, or just change it in the build prop with root explorer
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W A R N I N G:
MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP YOUR DEVICE!!!!!
Once you have you phone rooted, edit build.prop the following line:
Code:
ro.sf.lcd_density=640
to
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ro.sf.lcd_density=560
I am currently using the Nexus 5 and looking at changing to the G3. I have used this program to change the dpi size on the nexus 5. It might work on the G3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.texdroider.texdroider_dpi
I agree with @JustLok and @mingkee.
I had two Note 3s. The first one would not hold a signal at my house, and I live 25 minutes from downtown Houston. The second Note 3 was no better. So I decided to switch to another OEM. The G3 is a little easier to use one-handed. I always used two hands with the Note 3 because I was afraid I would drop it. But I can comfortably use the G3 with one hand.
As others have noted, the G3 colors are not nearly as saturated as AMOLEDs, but you probably won't miss that after a few days. I had a GNex, Galaxy S3, Note 2 and Note 3, and I don't miss the overblown colors (but I do miss the inky blacks). I got my G3 on release day and have not had any overheating issues, but I don't play a lot of heavy 3D games.
Rooting the G3 is brain-dead simple, thanks to PurpleDrake. And spending $1.50 for the full version of G3 TweaksBox is a no-brainer too. If you used Wanam Xposed on the Note 3, then G3 TweaksBox is an absolute must have. Most people spend that much on soda or junk food every day, so $1.50 is a bargain for something that enhances your phone every day.
Call quality is exceptional, especially on Wi-Fi. UI lag is virtually nonexistent if you install a good launcher like Nova and reduce window animations (under main settings > Dev Options)
Battery life is good, but not the best. My Note 2 and Note 3 had slightly better battery, but the G3 lasts all day, so that is really all I need. I think the Note 3 and Galaxy S5 have better cameras, but the G3 is very close.
In the end, it just depends on your priorities. If you like the extra Note features, then stick with the Note 3 or wait for the Note 4. But if you want something a little more compact without sacrificing screen size, and runs all day without lag, then the G3 deserves a look.
After having the G3 for a few weeks now and on my 2nd one since the first one was a lemon. I don't regret it at all. It's actually easier to hold one handed compared to the N3, battery isn't as good as a N3 and IMHO I prefer the AMOLED screen more. But the G3 is still a very good device and the keyboard is awesome.
What I miss the most from the N3 is the stylus for work and SHealth. I wished LG Health was similar to SHealth is all the options it has but it does its one job very good.
G3 is worth the purchase of you're looking for something different.
Not to be a sick in the mud but the note 4 release isn't too far away, I would wait to see what they offer. I am thinking of getting the g3 as well if the note 4 doesn't wow me.
I currently have the S7 Edge because I had to turn in the Note 7. I'm getting kinda of tired of it and want Android 7.1 and something faster and less lag.
Would it be a good move to go to the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the V20 too but the iffy build quality with the camera lense plus speaker issues being reported and I'm leery on going for it. Also the Pixel is Ip54 rated, V20 is not.
Pixel XL is a great device (if you can obtain one that is). There definitely will be less lag vs Bloat Wiz! If you don't care for all the extra gimmicky features and you're looking for a fast clean experience this phone is it.
It's a trade off basically. With the Pixel you get faster updates and a very smooth experience. With the S7 Edge, you get a lot of fun features that the Pixel doesn't have but you also get less performance/battery life.
As someone that owns the s7 edge, v20 and Pixel xl, the pixel is my favorite. The s7 edge is with daughter now.
No Vulkan support on pixel ATM but s7 has locked BL. If BL not an issue for you then I'd try to wait until s8 drops in a couple months. That phone is expected to be an absolute beast... Minus headphone jack.
I went from the Note 7 unwillingly to the s7e. At that point I had gone through three Samsung phones and wanted a change of pace. I held out on getting the pixel until the reviews hit because I was tired of buying Nexus and getting sub-par battery and camera performance.
That bit of front matter out of the way I will say I miss quite a few features from my s7e/Note 7/Touchwiz in general. I think it's always good to get perspective from people that have been versed in both the realms you are wanting compared. Otherwise you get an echo chamber of perceived issues on phones people have never had.
*I miss how touchwiz handles screen shots. It's awesome to have it immediately give you an option to crop/edit/share without having to pull down the notification tray and open in another app (Photos by default doesnt edit from the screen shot notification).
*I miss being able to copy and paste images from the browser to the sms app. That way I dont need to save the imagines to my phone.
*I love the smart capture function of selecting a portion of the screen to share, send it off and boom youre done and it doesnt save the photo for you if you don't want it.
*The built in camera options are awesome, the position of the home button makes for launching the camera from the off position a little more natural since you are holding the phone how you would to take the photo.
*Being able to select audio outputs from the notification tray. Often I have head phones on at work but when I want to show someone a video, I have to either turn off my headphone or disconnect in the bluetooth settings.
*Being able to use your finger print to restore saved passwords in the browser.
*Also the peace of mind of being water resistant
All that said the battery life on the Pixel XL compared to the snap dragon s7e is clearly in favor of the Pixel. The camera is awesome, I don't know if I would say one is better than the other but it's a beast. The OS is very responsive and aesthetically it is pleasing on the eyes. Would be nice if they had built in themes though. All in all I've never had much of an issue with Samsung and find lots of the features useful but I really am enjoying my Pixel XL.
I'd also like to note the VR experience, I think the Gear VR is designed better than the Day Dream.
I had the Note 7 and landed on the S7 Edge after all of the exchanges. I was only too happy to ditch that phone for the Pixel XL as soon as I could get my hands on it. A lot of people will tell you that the S7 Edge is pretty much the same phone as the Note 7, but it very clearly is not. The Note was smooth and fast, and the Edge feels clunky and is visibly slower. In a perfect world I would have the Pixel XL with the S-Pen and stock Android. But until that particular unicorn shows itself, the Pixel is (IMHO) a better phone. At least, for me.
I have a Pixel 2XL on the way and I'm super excited. One question I have is:
How is this phone one-handed?
It's a tad wider than the new flagships from Samsung, HTC, etc. and I'm wondering if it's going to be a struggle when I simply can't spare another hand and have to take care of something like responding to a text or playing music. My Note5 is about the same width and I've had occasional difficulties. Fortunately, a triple tap of the home button would shrink the screen down to the corner so I could access everything, and I may have to install an app that does this very thing on the Pixel.
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I have a Pixel 2XL on the way and I'm super excited. One question I have is:
How is this phone one-handed?
It's a tad wider than the new flagships from Samsung, HTC, etc. and I'm wondering if it's going to be a struggle when I simply can't spare another hand and have to take care of something like responding to a text or playing music. My Note5 is about the same width and I've had occasional difficulties. Fortunately, a triple tap of the home button would shrink the screen down to the corner so I could access everything, and I may have to install an app that does this very thing on the Pixel.
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Pie Control. Try it.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Looks like this will provide the functionality I'm used to from the Note5...
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-one-handed-mode/
So it's time to change my old phone to the new one. I want to buy Pixel 2 XL but I'm so frightened because this phone has launched with a poor screen quality. Did someone buy this phone in february or in march and could tell me something about Pixel 2's blue-shift, burn-in or grain?
I think the screen it's good I don't have a lot of blue shift, but I think you must pay attention to the 4gb of ram , I have 4 mobiles and 3 of them are 4 and 3 GB of ram and they suffer a lot on multitasking.
And now I have a one plus 5t with 6gb of ram and that's much better.
By the phones are , Google pixel 2 xl, s8+ , ipx .
But the rest you're be good with pixel 2 XL , speed , fast updates, by the way the android P its right on the corner
I purchased the pixel 2 xl 15 days ago and yes, it has blue shift, but no more defects or burn in. My aunt has a S8 and I'd recommend the pixel 2 over the S8.
In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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Agreed about the blue shift. Way over criticized. I only notice it when... I read someone post something about it then I go look, say to myself, yep, its there, then continue on like nothing at all.
However, if I was buying a phone right now, I would hold off until I can hold the S9+ in my hands. With most sites saying its just a refreshed S8+ I would prolly pass and stay with Pixel.
This phone is top notch. Switched from the S8+. No looking back.
I'll weigh in:
I just got mine last week (third week of Feb '18) via a Best Buy deal. The phone was built in Oct of '17. I was coming from a Note5 which I really loved.
Lots of things to like, a few things to niggle naggle about and a few things to really hate.
Likes:
Oreo 8.1+
Squeeze Assistant
Fingerprint reader gestures
Google Lens - It's amazing.
Camera. Just wow.
Lots of things you can customize without root (via ADB)... You can move the nav buttons around, etc...
Battery life is simply great. I get 4+ hours of screen time and can go 8+ hours while sleeping and only loose a percentage or two. It's quite amazing actually.
Dislikes:
Not a fan of the fingerprint reader on the back... to use it, you always have to pick up the phone... on other models where the reader is on the front, you can unlock the phone while it's flat on the table or work desk or whatever. Having it on the back does have some upsides though... so this one isn't a big deal.
Not a fan of the power button and volume keys all being on the same side and so close together... I find myself pressing one when I mean the other.
Rounded corners on the screens... seems like a good idea aesthetically but you actually loose a fair amount of real estate... for example, the status bar icons are moved in a fair amount to compensate for the rounded corners so you get a lot of black space to the left and right of the ends in the status bar... I would never sacrifice function for form like that. Dumb.
Blue shift. It's there... not a big deal but it's there.
Hate:
Extremely long charging times. Just to go from 90 to 100% is like an hour++. This is in NO way a quick charging phone.
No charging LED indicator. Boo. I did load an app for that but Boo.
No wireless charging. Boo and boo.
Double Hate:
Screen protectors are a nightmare with this device. I've never had such issues finding decent, inexpensive protector that doesn't curl, bubble, etc... and I can't find any quality tempered glass protectors. There are a couple liquid adhesive protectors out there but they cost 1 arm and 1 leg. Really?
I'm really hoping the charging time issue can be fixed in a future OS update. It seems that this started happening after the Feb '18 update. We'll see.
I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
UPDATE: Oh, I guess in Nova you can just turn the nav bar off. Will it allow for all the proper gestures for recents, back, home?
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Thx!
I purchased mine 3 weeks ago, it was produced in November 2017, and the screen doesn't have any of all the issues reported right and left.
It has a very slight blue tint maybe when you look at it at an angle... but you know what? My Galaxy S7 edge has it too. AMOLED displays HAVE blue shift, no technology is perfect.
I'm pretty happy with mine. I'm far from being your typical Google/Nexus/Pixel apologist, but after having Samsung flagship phones for years, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I've ever owned :good:
It doesn't have all the bells and whistles a Galaxy or Note has, but it works so great, without any issue. Everything with this phone feels silky smooth, without a single dropped frame. Everything you try to run looks "effortless" and easy for the Pixel. I'm amazed by that phone
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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You don't have to root to get rid of the nav bar. There is a Substratum theme that changes the nav bar to any size you want including 0. I found it here on XDA. I'll see if I can find it and link to it when I get home.
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Here is a link for the nav bar height
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-height-changer-android-nougat-t3447956/page1
and here is one I use to fix the lock screen swipe issue
https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-lock-screen-swipe-gesture-issues-android-81-oreo/
I just sold my 7 plus and received my pixel 2 xl yesterday. The blue shift isn't bad, it's only noticable to the person on the side of you looking at your screen. Screen quality doesn't seem bad but colors may be dull to some. There is a Oreo colorizer app that will force the display in wide color gamut mode which richens up the color. Google does offer a new vivid saturated display mode but that app works way better. Only thing I don't like is how Snapchat looks like poo.. which it does on every Android but yeah.. this is probably the best camera quality you will get on Snapchat Android due to visual core enhancing the photos which does a pretty damn good job!
On a cold rainy cloudy dark Washington day, camera doesn't look as nice as what my iPhone 7 plus would've took with it's camera..
Hello all,
I'm currently rocking a Pixel XL and I'm absolutely itching for an upgrade. I'm also a Project Fi user, which limits my choices on which phones I can use. I love the performance of my Pixel XL, along with the vanilla Android experience. Unfortunately, my Pixel XL purchase was a bit of a rushed decision due to me breaking my Nexus 5X the day before I took a road trip. I ran out to Best Buy and snagged this phone, which, while it's a great device, is a bit too wide of a phone for my liking. One handed use is a bit cumbersome. Not a dealbreaker, I don't regret my purchase one bit, but now that I'm looking to upgrade, I'd like to get something a bit smaller. Last year I helped a family member of mine phone shop and they landed on the LG G6. Even though it has a bigger screen than my PXL (6.0" > 5.5") it felt smaller in the hands, which I really liked. So, when Project Fi announced that the LG G7 ThinQ was coming to their network, I was naturally very curious.
Things that appeal to me about this phone
Headphone Jack (with the Quad DAC)
SD Card Slot
Loud Speakers
Bright Screen
Wireless Charging
Better Screen-to-Body ratio while remaining slightly smaller than my current phone.
Detractors
Skinned OS (No app drawer?)
Small(er) battery
Less-than-stellar Camera
Non-OLED screen
I would've pulled the trigger already but I'm also curious about the new Pixel phones being released 3-4 months from now. From leaked information it looks like the new XL will be too big of a phone, but the regular Pixel 3 is supposed to be nearly what I'd consider a perfect size (much like my N5X was). Other than that we don't know too much about the new phones to know whether or not they'll be worth waiting for but I'm willing to wager there will be a huge price tag associated with them. So I'm still very much on the fence.
So, I figured some input from former Pixel or Nexus owners who have moved on to this device would prove to be very helpful in my purchase decision.
Any input is appreciated, Thanks!
I have had the N5X, pixel, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl, and like you prefer AOSP. I have found the G7 to be acceptable through use of nova launcher with the companion app for Google now. I also like the ability to have themes, I have found a material black theme that is very well done and a whole lot better than the bright colors of AOSP.
The battery has been a little inconsistent for me but seems to have settled down, now easily getting me through a long day. The camera is no pixel, although the wide angle is neat. Overall I like the g7 over the pixel 2 xl or pixel, although my dream phone would be an essential phone 2 (assuming the problems with the ph1 were solved) as even the g7 is a bit bigger than I want.
As far as "unthemed" Android phones go, I had the Nexus S, Moto X, Nexus 4, and Nexus 6P before getting the G7. I was hoping to wait for the Pixel 3 or potentially the Motorola One Power with AndroidOne, but since the volume rocker on my 6P was damaged (and the battery life was declining fast), I grabbed the G7 deal on Verizon. One thing I will say is if I was not on Verizon, I almost certainly would have picked up a OnePlus 6 instead. That being said, to address your detractor points:
Skinned OS - the built-in launcher DOES have an app drawer version, it's just not set by default. Otherwise, I've been using Lawnchair V2 that has Google Feed integration without a companion app.
Small(er) battery - haven't had any problems with battery life so far; I usually end the day anywhere between 50% (low usage) and 20% (extremely high usage). However, I would be surprised if anyone was able to consistently hit two days between charges.
Less-than-stellar camera - I'm not very picky on the camera, but I have noticed it is just a hair slower to open than my wife's Galaxy S8 (using double-tap power button). Image quality is good; I'd say it's better than my 6P was. I never use the AI Cam. The wide-angle lens is neat, but I haven't found a lot of use for it in day-to-day pictures.
Non-OLED screen - I haven't noticed this as much as I thought I would, even with Ambient Display turned on. The times that I do notice the LCD display is just before bed, if the lights are all off and Ambient Display hasn't turned off (I set mine to turn off from 11:00pm - 6:00am), you can see some light coming from the black portions of the screen. Overall, not a dealbreaker for me.
I'll add a few more points regarding the skinned OS concern:
The phone app is the most annoying part of the skin. I miss Google Dialer, and it's actually an app I use very regularly.
Lots of bloatware. I disabled/uninstalled almost everything, and replaced a lot with Google's apps (e.g., Calendar, Messages).
Settings is another heavily modified portion of the OS. However, in this case, I actually like LG's tabbed settings; I think it's more intuitive to navigate.
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I have had the N5X, pixel, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl, and like you prefer AOSP. I have found the G7 to be acceptable through use of nova launcher with the companion app for Google now. I also like the ability to have themes, I have found a material black theme that is very well done and a whole lot better than the bright colors of AOSP.
The battery has been a little inconsistent for me but seems to have settled down, now easily getting me through a long day. The camera is no pixel, although the wide angle is neat. Overall I like the g7 over the pixel 2 xl or pixel, although my dream phone would be an essential phone 2 (assuming the problems with the ph1 were solved) as even the g7 is a bit bigger than I want.
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Themes are a huge plus. The eye-murdering bright white "Material" design is getting old very fast. As for the camera, I'm not a huge picture guy, but I do still find myself quite impressed with my Pixel's camera whenever I snap a quick photo. Would you say that you don't quite have the same reaction when taking pictures with your G7?
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As far as "unthemed" Android phones go, I had the Nexus S, Moto X, Nexus 4, and Nexus 6P before getting the G7. I was hoping to wait for the Pixel 3 or potentially the Motorola One Power with AndroidOne, but since the volume rocker on my 6P was damaged (and the battery life was declining fast), I grabbed the G7 deal on Verizon. One thing I will say is if I was not on Verizon, I almost certainly would have picked up a OnePlus 6 instead. That being said, to address your detractor points:
Skinned OS - the built-in launcher DOES have an app drawer version, it's just not set by default. Otherwise, I've been using Lawnchair V2 that has Google Feed integration without a companion app.
Small(er) battery - haven't had any problems with battery life so far; I usually end the day anywhere between 50% (low usage) and 20% (extremely high usage). However, I would be surprised if anyone was able to consistently hit two days between charges.
Less-than-stellar camera - I'm not very picky on the camera, but I have noticed it is just a hair slower to open than my wife's Galaxy S8 (using double-tap power button). Image quality is good; I'd say it's better than my 6P was. I never use the AI Cam. The wide-angle lens is neat, but I haven't found a lot of use for it in day-to-day pictures.
Non-OLED screen - I haven't noticed this as much as I thought I would, even with Ambient Display turned on. The times that I do notice the LCD display is just before bed, if the lights are all off and Ambient Display hasn't turned off (I set mine to turn off from 11:00pm - 6:00am), you can see some light coming from the black portions of the screen. Overall, not a dealbreaker for me.
I'll add a few more points regarding the skinned OS concern:
The phone app is the most annoying part of the skin. I miss Google Dialer, and it's actually an app I use very regularly.
Lots of bloatware. I disabled/uninstalled almost everything, and replaced a lot with Google's apps (e.g., Calendar, Messages).
Settings is another heavily modified portion of the OS. However, in this case, I actually like LG's tabbed settings; I think it's more intuitive to navigate.
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Appreciate the detailed reply!
Looks like you've echoed much of what reviewers have said as well in regards to battery life and camera. As I stated above, Camera quality isn't os the utmost importance but I do really like a fast shutter speed and I enjoy when a regular picture I take comes out great thanks to the sensor in my Pixel. If the G7 isn't capable of this, that will be a bit of a letdown, but not necessarily a dealbreaker. Backlight bleed is kind of expected with an IPS panel, it shouldn't be much of an issue. I do like that it gets extremely bright for daytime use. I totally forgot about third party launchers, which would alleviate my concerns about the lack of an app drawer or anything else almost completely. It's disappointing to hear about the bloatware, but at least you can disable or uninstall most of it and use the Google alternatives if need be.
It sounds like I should wait to see if Root and Bootloader Unlocking becomes a thing on the US version of this phone. If I could snag this device, unlock, root it, and flash an AOSP ROM I'd be very tempted to pull the trigger. These things take time, and time I have. The Pixels aren't being released until the end of October to begin with.
with substratum and andromeda i was able to theme the whole system black, including notifications. theming not an issue.
no camera will be as good as google's software allows the pixel to be. if you want the best camera, stick with pixel. everything else is second, including samsung and apple.
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with substratum and andromeda i was able to theme the whole system black, including notifications. theming not an issue.
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Another option if you don't want to use Substratum and Andromeda and are willing to pay a couple bucks: there is a thread with apps by NNG (I think?) that uses the LG theme engine that has a pretty good dark material/Pixel theme. I'm too lazy right now to use Andromeda (I know, I know...) but may go back and give it a shot if I get tired of the LG theme.
One more data point: the camera is still much, MUCH faster than my Nexus 6P was near the end of its life, so it's been a huge step up for me. Something that I did notice and have seen mentioned a couple times elsewhere is that certain photo modes take a little more time to save the picture. I've lost 2 food pictures this way when I closed the camera to quickly after using food mode and snapping a picture. Make sure you give it some time! I haven't noticed this when using the auto mode though (have not tired with AI cam or other modes).
Ok your pros list is spot on with this phone speaker and dac are phenomenal, I'll try to clear up the cons no OLED does suck but it's honestly not that bad. it's a really good display and gets bright as hell, the camera is pretty good (I do some photography in my spare time but to broke to get a real camera) probably not as good as a pixel but it holds it own I'd say give it some time it will probably get a Gcam port (hopefully) battery has been great I haven't had any problems. The skinned OS, LG UX isn't the best but it's not that bad and after throwing on a launcher on it I haven't had a problem. I hope I was able to give some insight if you have any questions feel free to PM me
I appreciate all of the feedback I've received so far. I might pull the trigger on this phone next week. Project Fi is now offering a $300 service credit when purchasing and activating this phone from them. This makes it very hard to wait for the Pixel 3 lol.
Had a pixel 2. It somehow ended up with the OS corrupted, and it was all stock. Last google device I'll ever buy. Went with a G7 nd have not looked back.
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Had a pixel 2. It somehow ended up with the OS corrupted, and it was all stock. Last google device I'll ever buy. Went with a G7 nd have not looked back.
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Glad to hear. I haven't had a non-Pixel or Nexus device in a long time. Ordered the G7 yesterday so I'm hoping I'm as happy as you all are with this device.
Former Pixel\Nexus guy here. With Bloaty LG stuff, some are able to disable, some are not like Contacts, Messaging, Calendar, Clock. I just put the Pixel 3 Rootless Launcher and works just well. This version of G7 actually lets you select which LG stuff you want from the phone setup process.
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Former Pixel\Nexus guy here. With Bloaty LG stuff, some are able to disable, some are not like Contacts, Messaging, Calendar, Clock. I just put the Pixel 3 Rootless Launcher and works just well. This version of G7 actually lets you select which LG stuff you want from the phone setup process.
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Sorry for the thread necro, but does anybody have a writeup about disabling the stock apps? I'm coming from using the Google versions of most stuff, and would be happy to ignore the LG stuff and keep using the Google ones -- but not so happy if I have to pick the right identically-named icon every time, and maybe get double notifications, "which app should I open this with" prompts, etc etc. I'd just as soon uninstall / disable them completely.
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Sorry for the thread necro, but does anybody have a writeup about disabling the stock apps? I'm coming from using the Google versions of most stuff, and would be happy to ignore the LG stuff and keep using the Google ones -- but not so happy if I have to pick the right identically-named icon every time, and maybe get double notifications, "which app should I open this with" prompts, etc etc. I'd just as soon uninstall / disable them completely.
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There's a thread about package disabler pro (lg)
I found one thread, with "it work I am using it" and not much else. Last night, I think I managed to "disable" the built-in calendar just by turning off its permission for calendar access -- it might keep its own local calendar data but as long as I'm not using it, I don't think it's going to bother me. Same with their mail client. I was also able to totally delete the preinstalled Facebook and Instagram (eww). Their Contacts, Calendar, and Clock apps seem fine (and actually pretty similar to stock) so I'll probably just keep using them. I'm on the fence about keeping the stock launcher, but I don't need a special lock-down / uninstall procedure to do that.
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Hello all,
I'm currently rocking a Pixel XL and I'm absolutely itching for an upgrade. I'm also a Project Fi user, which limits my choices on which phones I can use. I love the performance of my Pixel XL, along with the vanilla Android experience. Unfortunately, my Pixel XL purchase was a bit of a rushed decision due to me breaking my Nexus 5X the day before I took a road trip. I ran out to Best Buy and snagged this phone, which, while it's a great device, is a bit too wide of a phone for my liking. One handed use is a bit cumbersome. Not a dealbreaker, I don't regret my purchase one bit, but now that I'm looking to upgrade, I'd like to get something a bit smaller. Last year I helped a family member of mine phone shop and they landed on the LG G6. Even though it has a bigger screen than my PXL (6.0" > 5.5") it felt smaller in the hands, which I really liked. So, when Project Fi announced that the LG G7 ThinQ was coming to their network, I was naturally very curious.
Things that appeal to me about this phone
Headphone Jack (with the Quad DAC)
SD Card Slot
Loud Speakers
Bright Screen
Wireless Charging
Better Screen-to-Body ratio while remaining slightly smaller than my current phone.
Detractors
Skinned OS (No app drawer?)
Small(er) battery
Less-than-stellar Camera
Non-OLED screen
I would've pulled the trigger already but I'm also curious about the new Pixel phones being released 3-4 months from now. From leaked information it looks like the new XL will be too big of a phone, but the regular Pixel 3 is supposed to be nearly what I'd consider a perfect size (much like my N5X was). Other than that we don't know too much about the new phones to know whether or not they'll be worth waiting for but I'm willing to wager there will be a huge price tag associated with them. So I'm still very much on the fence.
So, I figured some input from former Pixel or Nexus owners who have moved on to this device would prove to be very helpful in my purchase decision.
Any input is appreciated, Thanks!
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If you're interested in this phone just wait for the G8, it still has a skinned OS but you could always install pixel launcher and it would have an app drawer, battery is pretty big I think 3,500 mah, camera won't be as good as the newest pixel but with a gcam port you should be able to pull off some really good shots. The G8 has an OLED screen