Still on android 11 unrooted
getting updates notifications while now but not updated
Is it worth doing it now and all issues etc resolved
backed up to Google so anything else to do if I update
Rule #1 - if your platform is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be!
Upgrades can and do break things.
Backup all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Never encrypt data drives.
Never disk clone media files/folders.
Copy/paste then verify size and if readable.
Lol no. At least not OOS. Stick with OOS11 or I've personally tried derp and nameless and ran nameless until the a12 blob update.
Yes, I agree w/ the above posts from what I've encountered. I'm on Derpfest with Arter97 kernel and is very nice but ROM is a little outdated in the android world since it's an April update and not being updated going forward. But honestly I'm pretty good with the device besides no speed wireless warp charging and not being able to use my DAC.
NO.
OOS 12 is ****.
Yes.
You are you. Every person use what they like/need on the phone. So you may have/not have any of them problems.
12 has worked great for my usage since it's release! Cheers
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12 has worked great for my usage since it's release! Cheers
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That's on OP?
Even Pixel's have had reported issues with it.
My N10+'s will stay on 9 and 10... no issues.
The camera is more of a menace with Android 10, but that's a Samsung UI thing
Definitely don't want active scoped storage though. 12 seems too busy with nickel and dime permissions; not needed for trusted apps. If an app isn't trusted... it's not loaded; KISS.
blackhawk said:
That's on OP?
Even Pixel's have had reported issues with it.
My N10+'s will stay on 9 and 10... no issues.
The camera is more of a menace with Android 10, but that's a Samsung UI thing
Definitely don't want active scoped storage though. 12 seems too busy with nickel and dime permissions; not needed for trusted apps. If an app isn't trusted... it's not loaded; KISS.
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Yes, on my 0nePlus 9 Pro and 10 Pro! Unlocked BL and Magisk loaded! Security is all over the map...
I wouldn't.
I'm still having silly issues that should have been fixed ages ago.
The app switcher UI freezes regularly.
The camera app glitches during video after a couple of minutes and the sound cuts out and video gets choppy.
Photos are often way over-exposed.
The "Always On" clock/display doesn't actually stay on.
I occasionally have issues with animation stuttering when scrolling and so on.
It was actually a pretty solid phone before I did the Android 12 update. I really should roll it back but I've just been lazy.
Weren't happy at all with OOS12. I used Derpfest and was happy with it, but as it's no longer maintained I needed something else.. Now on LineageOS 19.1 and I'm not searching for alternatives anymore, I'll probably use it until I switch phones. Battery isn't as good as on OOS11 (with custom kernel), but I manage a day without issues. You probably wouldn't if you're a phone gamer.
The 12 release for the 9 pro is poor. I only upgraded as it was a required step for my chosen ROM installation.
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Weren't happy at all with OOS12. I used Derpfest and was happy with it, but as it's no longer maintained I needed something else.. Now on LineageOS 19.1 and I'm not searching for alternatives anymore, I'll probably use it until I switch phones. Battery isn't as good as on OOS11 (with custom kernel), but I manage a day without issues. You probably wouldn't if you're a phone gamer.
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hi...do you have any issues with phone calls and bluetooth???
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hi...do you have any issues with phone calls and bluetooth???
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Normal phone calls work fine, no issues. I only use BT to listen to music, have a connected smart watch and libre sensor (diabetes sensor), all work fine (better than with OOS even). I do not use BT to answer calls, so I don't know how well that works.
For my experience oos12 was a great upgrade over oos11. Phone feels more smooth and I do get better battery life for my usage. A big noticeable difference in stand by drain while sleeping.
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I wouldn't.
I'm still having silly issues that should have been fixed ages ago.
The app switcher UI freezes regularly.
The camera app glitches during video after a couple of minutes and the sound cuts out and video gets choppy.
Photos are often way over-exposed.
The "Always On" clock/display doesn't actually stay on.
I occasionally have issues with animation stuttering when scrolling and so on.
It was actually a pretty solid phone before I did the Android 12 update. I really should roll it back but I've just been lazy.
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I keep seeing similar complaints to yours.
I would just roll it back. Android 13 is looking like it will be a complete fubar. Scoped storage is still an Apple nightmare. Malware is far easier to deal with than these "improvements"
I think that so far Android 9 is the zenith point for this platform; a good balance of functionality, usability and security. I have no issues with Pie on my stock N10+; fast, rock solid stable, reasonably secure and most importantly it's fulfilling its mission. It's a joy to use this device because it does what -I- want and it's very predictable. Predictability makes spotting malware much easier as well as basic troubleshooting. As such I spend very little time doing maintenance or troubleshooting. This load is over 2 yo now. That's what Android is capable of... or should be.
Find an OS version that works for you and adopt it for the life of the device
Still on Android 11 take it matter of choice to update or not
users still have issues with android 12?
if you go by that, people also have problems with oos 11 and not just with oos 12. I personally use oos12 and have no problems
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if you go by that, people also have problems with oos 11 and not just with oos 12. I personally use oos12 and have no problems
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Both 11 and 12 are a scoped storage mess.
Android 10 was the last version where scoped storage wasn't fully active by default.
Expect the potential need for a factory reset if you upgrade to 12. You may need to change settings and find other workarounds to get it running right.
Meet the green dot.
I did it, upgraded to OOS12 and I must admit there were some things I liked better battery life. But there were changes that I really really did not like.
I needed to fall back on Nova Launcher to get some of the visuals back and vibe back.
A couple of days ago I decided to put cRdoid A12 on it. I miss some options from OOS but overall I'm happier now.
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Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
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Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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While it is slow, it's by no means a bad phone. Especially if you install a rom on it
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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That's really up to your preference. I like what MaxxAudio adds, and the stock camera more than exceeded my expectations. Flashing to a stock rom would lose both of those things. A lot of people in the CM12 / nameless thread praise the battery life but I've been getting similar SOT/standby times on stock without having to worry about the random instability bugs that are still coming up (1-3% overnight usually, and otherwise idle is about 0.75% an hour according to GSM - longest i've stretched it to was 70 hours standby with 4.5 hours SOT from watching Gin no Saji). As pretty as Lollipop looks, I don't really feel like it would affect my daily usage of the phone.
So decide for yourself. Screen is great, i love watching my shows on here. Can easily get through a 25 minute episode of w/e show i'm watching with only 3-4% each with H/W+ decoding, the 10 bit videos that require S/W decoding suck up about 8-9%. A 29 minute youtube video drained 7% the other day (kingdom come deliverance update). Listening to music is great too, having an SD card slot is nice compared to a lot of other flagships right now. Play a lot of Phoenix Wright on drasticDS these days, phone never really gets hot or anything and drains pretty slowly considering you're running an emulator. Listening to my audiobook over bluetooth to a speaker sips about 1% an hour while I'm working out on rings.
For the price, I don't think you will be disappointed, I certainly wasn't. But if using a stock rom, or playing around with custom roms often is something you want to do then it might be better to look elsewhere.
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Absolutely not! IMO the phone is solid on it's own stock firmware. People here tend to believe if it ain't broke, fix it anyway. In a way the stock firmware out performs the custom roms at the moment because of the camera app, the Maxx audio, screen off gestures, the auto power on for an alarm. You can reasonably expect the software to update to Lolipop in March or so. I only just started messing around wit custom roms which leads me to the stock firmwares only downside In my opinion.
Oppo for some reason decided to limit the amount of storage available for apps. So forget about having both XCOM and Clash of clans on your phone at once. I am running Nameless Rom with unified storage so I'm happy now. But as soon as Lollipop ColorOS is released I'm going back to stock.
You made an excellent choice. There's talk of unified storage being in the next OTA update, so limited space for apps should be a thing of the past. If you're one of those Android obsessives desperately wanting lollipop then you will be disapointed with colorOS - they still haven't released OTA kitkat, let alone lollipop. But there are plenty of updated ROMs to manually flash. Personally, I'm perfectly content with my rooted colorOS - faultless, and who needs Viper when you've got MaxxAudio?
I'm new to the tab s, and I hope there is a stable and relatively bug free ROM that is not lollipop. Marshmallow is too new, so I hope for kitkat. I really like Cyanogenmod, but it looks like the earliest CM ROM is 12.x which, I believe, is android 5. Yuk. Not interested in terrible battery life. Any suggestion for a real solid, fast, debugged ROM for the SM-T700? I'm getting my new tablet tomorrow, and I'll be ready to root, backup and reROM right away. Hate the bloat! Thanks!
Not quite sure what you mean about terrible battery life. How is that related to lollipop?
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I'm new to the tab s, and I hope there is a stable and relatively bug free ROM that is not lollipop. Marshmallow is too new, so I hope for kitkat. I really like Cyanogenmod, but it looks like the earliest CM ROM is 12.x which, I believe, is android 5. Yuk. Not interested in terrible battery life. Any suggestion for a real solid, fast, debugged ROM for the SM-T700? I'm getting my new tablet tomorrow, and I'll be ready to root, backup and reROM right away. Hate the bloat! Thanks!
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Since a few days have passed, and I've done a lot more reading than the average person wants to do to answer these questions, and I've flashed a new ROM, I'll answer my own questions for others looking into similar questions.
It looks like many devices out there have suffered from the Android 4 to Android 5 updates, especially those forced by manufacturers. The biggest undesirable symptom being painfully reduced battery life. This is debated all over, especially since your mileage may vary. Since you can find these complaints much more frequently than with other Android upgrades, and since Google quickly released Android 6, it's safe to say there are legitimate issues here. Often people claim no such issues if upgrading to Android 5.1 (instead of Android 5.0) and/or if upgrading via a full wipe then clean flash. And since this is not explicitly the conventional update method for most users (again, mfg pushes update) then it's reasonable to assume updates from Android 4 to Android 5 may really just flat out "SUCK". Whether it's Google's fault or phone MFGs fault, it makes no difference to the end user; they will avoid the version of Android if they can't trust it.
As far as a better, stable, debloated KitKat (Android 4.4.x) ROM goes ...... sorry, too late. Pretty much all focus has been on getting Android 5 working properly. There are CyanogenMod 11 ROMs for the T700, but don't hold your breath for anything "official". I am now running CyanogenMod 12.1 (Android 5.1) and it seems stable with no issues so far and the battery life doesn't seem much worse than it was when running stock the TouchWiz KitKat, which was nice but heavily bloated. This is after root, TWRP, backup, full wipe, then flash CM12.1 and gapps.
My first choice ROM would have been LiquidSmooth, because a lot of praise was given it for being stable and bug-free, but all the download links are dead, the website(s) are pretty lame, and the last builds are almost a year old, so I gave CM a shot, since there are still recent nightly builds, and it is working well.
On a side note: Android 6 (M) third party ROMS are still yet to be stable on all sorts of devices out there, and Google is about to release Android N, possibly as Android 7.
Cmon Google, get it together. Slow down and do things right, and quit making things worse, like the exSDcard restrictions.
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Getting my Nexus 5X tomorrow but currently use a Nexus 5. With any Nexus you want to start off with setting up the Android SDK and all the Nexus drivers on your computer so if something does go south, you are ready to fix it with the factory images. The first thing I am going to do with mine is put Android N on it since I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Then root and most likely be happy with that for a while. Since Android N will probably be officially released soon, I'm sure that's when a lot of stuff will start happening around here. Hopefully Xposed will get updated to work with it. If so, that will be my setup. Stock, rooted and Xposed. That's basically what I have been running on my Nexus 5 for a while now. But if you want to try out custom ROMs, there are those too.
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Thanks for your reply. good advice to save the original rom image! I will probably root too, because I usually OC my phones hopefully that won't be so much a hassle.
If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
Icharius said:
Hi folks, I purchase a LG Nexux 5X and will arrive soon and was wondering where should I start modding it.
I have done several mods in other phones and on the gear 2 neo, so I know how to use odin and some adb functions.
I usually don't tamper with a new phone unless it is really slow or annoying me with some bug, but would like to know if there are some minor tweaks I can begin to tinker with that will enhance my overall experience with this phone.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.
-Ich
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I have the N5X for several months.
I previously had the N4, N5, and OnePlus One (still have it, wife uses it).
I used stock, I used to flash ROMs at least twice a week minimum (same on the other devices). Various ROMs, to test their performance, their tweaks, their perks, their battery life... you name it.
However, flashing ROMs and trying out various mods feels very much like living on the road with your backpack on, rather than staying at home and having a steady job. Because while flashing ROMs, you don't always re-install all the things you had (Even if you backup with Titanium Backup, as some things don't survive data restore very well). Last week I made the decision to go stock and stay stock (well, not really, I went stock Android N Preview 5, which will receive OTA to full Nugget in about a month).
I have to tell you... I don't quite feel any difference other than losing a feature or two. Speed is still great; snappiness is snappy, no bugs and no issues. It feels great even though its encypted (by default), while all this time I was certain being un-unecrypted made the device any snappier; that was just a placebo I guess.
So yeah, you can go ahead and flash a custom ROM (or many of them!), but don't do it for improved performance. Stock performance is truly awesome, and while some ROMs make it better, for sure - it's not THAT better, not in any noticeable way. Do it for features, do it for fun, do it for curiosity, DO IT! But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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Agree. I used to root and ROM the crap out of phones but with the 5X I've stayed stock. Yeah, I see more ads now and miss Viper4Android but I spend no time F-ing with the phone and all the time just using it. No gyrations to go though to install monthly security updates or trying to get banking apps to work with root (like Android pay). Try it stock for a while.
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If I were you, I wouldn't OC at all. Snapdragon 800 series likes to overheat and throttle itself, making it slower than usual.
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I was reading that thermal problem post, it does present an issue to me because when I ride a bike I usually have the phone on the handle in a rubber case exposed to the sun and the heat that can easily reach over 35°. Thanks for the heads up.
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But just know the simple truth that Stock Android 6 and definitely 7 are so good and bug-less, that there is no need to get customized to resolve any bugs or performance issues; there are none.
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I hear you, I have prolonged the life of my smartphones more than it should, by tweaking and using customs roms. I have had only 2 other SP in the spam of 6 years and had never had to be subject to a phone/data plan. I just ride the wifis signal or pay per use the 3g signal. Even-thought this LG is not a big inversion in itself, I hope I can squeeze several years of it and the old practice of using custom roms, seems kind of pointless or not worth the trouble considering as you say the stock is as good.
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Oh I will! there's so much I can do with it as it is, it seems.
The 2020 Moto G Power has been updated to the official OTA of Android 11.
I am in awe with my 2020 G power running on Android 11. Just felt like this was what my G power ultimately ment for. Compare with Android 10, which is just a prototype until the arrival of 11. Now that it's here, this device can really shine. Don't mind me, I'm just geeking out by the current hardware and software combo. Like peanutbutter and chocolate, it feels just right...
Day 1 running on Android 11:
A few things that are different than before, the custom system setting UI is now officially a part of the setting, but with more choices and better UI. The navigation gestures can now run on 3rd party launchers, it takes some getting use to, but once you get hang of the gestures, it's bye bye, the 3 buttons. Full screen display option for all the apps, no more blank space at the tail ends. Not sure where the battery draining rumor comes from, IMO, if anything, my device seems to be running smoother and more efficient than with Android 10. There are a few more things I'm still discovering, so I'll make my conclusion in a few days.
Did this take forever to install for anybody else? I'm talking 3-4 hours so far and it's only at 48%.
I'm tempted to upgrade, but I think I'm gonna stay on 10 for a while. I've heard people say the battery drains faster on 11 and something about the notification bar is bugged, or something.
Got it. No issues
Anyone know where to download the zip, not through the system updater.
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Anyone know where to download the zip, not through the system updater.
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I can't find one either for sofia 11.
updated to 11 weeks earlier, no battery issues, very stable system. G8 power (XT2041-3)
Very stable update no issues so far.
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I'm tempted to upgrade, but I think I'm gonna stay on 10 for a while. I've heard people say the battery drains faster on 11 and something about the notification bar is bugged, or something.
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Yes, I have observed faster battery drain since I upgraded to 11. I recommend staying on 10 for now.
yesterday i was checking if there was a firmware upgrade for my phone (SM-A325F) on samfw. well for other reasons. i saw an update for other regions that was unusual. Samsung had bumped the binary bit version from 2 to 3. Now this scared me. since if the fw arrives for all the regions it will make it undowngradable to one ui 3.1 or 4.1. since I am using gsi's (Generic System Images) which is currently crdroid 9.2. It may cause a problem if samsung breaks something with the update. Since i wont be able to downgrade to older firmwares. Twrp might also be a problem since i have seen threads on a12 that some twrp versions do not work for some binary bit versions. That scared me. Although i could get around this by using repacksuper but still. I have a custom kernel made by myself that i am daily driving. it will make it hard to install since i'll have to decompress and repack boot.img. Then disabling encryption... i am pretty sure gsi's wont boot with encryption enabled. I have no idea on how i' disable it. without twrp. there might be ways i'd have to do research.
I might just be overthinking. but yes. i'll have to test when it comes out for my region. I am also waiting for one ui 5.1 which may also have bumped binary bit version.
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Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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such as 60Hz bug happening on most new gsi's where it wouls refuse to switch to 90Hz. Only with A13 vendor. A11 vendor works fine.
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.
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Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.
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these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with
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these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with
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Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.
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Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.
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welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.
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welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.
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Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
blackhawk said:
Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..
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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..
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Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...
blackhawk said:
Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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blackhawk said:
Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...
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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.
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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.
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The N10+ Snap is still a good choice if you don't need to root if you can get one running on 9 or 10. The Exynos variant can be rooted but the hardware isn't as good. The spen is very useful.
I learned the hard way with my S4+ that it's a big mistake to upgrade/update the firmware especially on carrier phones. Haven't repeated that mistake.
I don't blame you for being irate about Samsung. They are a mess. The N10+ is the only Samsung I would consider getting even now.
I think this is getting off-topic.
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I think this is getting off-topic.
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yeah it is. main purpose of my thread was if twrp breaks due to diff version of bootloader. because i wont be able to downgrade once i upgrade. I could patch my stock recovery for fadtbootd but i would still love to have twrp.
An update. so i built a kernel for this thing using source samsung released with the bumped bit version. flashed it on an older bit 2 firmware. it works fine and i am daily driving it now. i thought it wouldnt boot. but it does.
So looks like the update i previously refered to had SB3 boot loader. i saw it for nepal. while i just saw one ui 5.1 drop for this phone with the U3 boot loader. i am upgrading and i'll tell wether the twrp and other stuff works. If not i'll report any workarounds i used.