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Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK

d7nku said:
Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums

nifear4 said:
I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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While it is slow, it's by no means a bad phone. Especially if you install a rom on it

nifear4 said:
I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?

d7nku said:
Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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That's really up to your preference. I like what MaxxAudio adds, and the stock camera more than exceeded my expectations. Flashing to a stock rom would lose both of those things. A lot of people in the CM12 / nameless thread praise the battery life but I've been getting similar SOT/standby times on stock without having to worry about the random instability bugs that are still coming up (1-3% overnight usually, and otherwise idle is about 0.75% an hour according to GSM - longest i've stretched it to was 70 hours standby with 4.5 hours SOT from watching Gin no Saji). As pretty as Lollipop looks, I don't really feel like it would affect my daily usage of the phone.
So decide for yourself. Screen is great, i love watching my shows on here. Can easily get through a 25 minute episode of w/e show i'm watching with only 3-4% each with H/W+ decoding, the 10 bit videos that require S/W decoding suck up about 8-9%. A 29 minute youtube video drained 7% the other day (kingdom come deliverance update). Listening to music is great too, having an SD card slot is nice compared to a lot of other flagships right now. Play a lot of Phoenix Wright on drasticDS these days, phone never really gets hot or anything and drains pretty slowly considering you're running an emulator. Listening to my audiobook over bluetooth to a speaker sips about 1% an hour while I'm working out on rings.
For the price, I don't think you will be disappointed, I certainly wasn't. But if using a stock rom, or playing around with custom roms often is something you want to do then it might be better to look elsewhere.

d7nku said:
Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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Absolutely not! IMO the phone is solid on it's own stock firmware. People here tend to believe if it ain't broke, fix it anyway. In a way the stock firmware out performs the custom roms at the moment because of the camera app, the Maxx audio, screen off gestures, the auto power on for an alarm. You can reasonably expect the software to update to Lolipop in March or so. I only just started messing around wit custom roms which leads me to the stock firmwares only downside In my opinion.
Oppo for some reason decided to limit the amount of storage available for apps. So forget about having both XCOM and Clash of clans on your phone at once. I am running Nameless Rom with unified storage so I'm happy now. But as soon as Lollipop ColorOS is released I'm going back to stock.

You made an excellent choice. There's talk of unified storage being in the next OTA update, so limited space for apps should be a thing of the past. If you're one of those Android obsessives desperately wanting lollipop then you will be disapointed with colorOS - they still haven't released OTA kitkat, let alone lollipop. But there are plenty of updated ROMs to manually flash. Personally, I'm perfectly content with my rooted colorOS - faultless, and who needs Viper when you've got MaxxAudio?

Custom ROM for improving battery life and phone expérience.

Hello all !
I recently buy an samsung galaxy s9, I love it because of his size, today all manufacturers are racing for the biggest screen diagonal, but forget about the people who like compact phones.
the only thing I don't like is that the battery doesn't really last. I use some social networks like instagram or whatsapp to chat and the battery is not consistent enough for me, I think. (I uninstalled the bloatware app and made a maximum of optimization).
So I'm thinking about the solution of installing a custom rom. I'm doing some research and I like the pixel experience or the lineageOS.
The reason of my post is to ask you, you who know much better than me, is it really going to increase the duration of use?
Do you have any advice on this ? I read that you have to calibrate the battery after installing a rom but maybe you have other advice, a rom in particular, settings to do ?
For rooting i find this thread in this forum > https://www.thecustomdroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-root/
but i got a SM-G960U1 that is not supported..
Thanks you a lot for all ur answer and information good to know XDA members !

Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!

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Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!
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Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
Best

PcO7 said:
Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
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I used Nezuko Os and Yes the invisible home button was working for me.. But i switch now from nezuko back to the stock ffirmware cause i love the one ui design etc..
sorry for my bad english Greetings From Germany!!

Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!

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Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above

VOID zunoo said:
I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above
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VOID zunoo said:
I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above.
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Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.

#mcl said:
Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.
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I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages

VOID zunoo said:
I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages
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I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.

#mcl said:
I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.
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Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!

VOID zunoo said:
Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!
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Yeah I imagine that would happen. Glad to know we have one more user on this ROM

Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call

No problem! Glad to know that this is useful.
I tried Arrow OS however I used it only for 2 days. The ROM was good and seem to be stable however it didn't have a function which for me was crucial, smart charging (charges your phone only to 80% to slow down its degradation) so I went back to NezukoOS. Arrow OS and AOSP are in general don't have bloatware and useless applications preinstalled however if you don't want a lot of features PixelExpirience(not the plus version) is going to be good for you. It's simple, very smooth and almost identical to a Google Pixel experience. LineageOS and ArrowOS however have more features built-in.
Hope this helps you choose!
PcO7 said:
Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call
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Best Stable ROM

Hi!
can anybody confirm which android version is more stable & featurefull among 10-12?
I'm currently using Android 12, but i want more stability & fluidity in my device.
Thanks in advance!

I personally thought that Android 10 was better than Android 11 which was noticeably slower and while Android 12 is buggy, the battery life is way better than it was previously so I just stick with 12. Getting over 4 hours SoT from 65% of the battery (I charge at 20%, take off charger at 85%) is great, and on days I actually charge to 100% because I know I'll be out of the house, 7 1/2 to 8 hours is possible.

I'm running stock FW, Android 12, always updated. And, I just notice I didn't received updates since 5 october. Well, end of life of my Pixel 3.
I can confirm battery drain, but for security reason, I stayed with stock updated.
Now, it's another story.
Thanks for the infos @EtherealRemnant.
Any advise for any Rom or you stay on Stock?
Sorry OP, if I disturb your post with my demand or if it's out of subject.
Thanks

tillets said:
I'm running stock FW, Android 12, always updated. And, I just notice I didn't received updates since 5 october. Well, end of life of my Pixel 3.
I can confirm battery drain, but for security reason, I stayed with stock updated.
Now, it's another story.
Thanks for the infos @EtherealRemnant.
Any advise for any Rom or you stay on Stock?
Sorry OP, if I disturb your post with my demand or if it's out of subject.
Thanks
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I switched to Pixeldust and like it more than stock.

Question Is it worth updating to 12

Still on android 11 unrooted
getting updates notifications while now but not updated
Is it worth doing it now and all issues etc resolved
backed up to Google so anything else to do if I update

Rule #1 - if your platform is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be!
Upgrades can and do break things.
Backup all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Never encrypt data drives.
Never disk clone media files/folders.
Copy/paste then verify size and if readable.

Lol no. At least not OOS. Stick with OOS11 or I've personally tried derp and nameless and ran nameless until the a12 blob update.

Yes, I agree w/ the above posts from what I've encountered. I'm on Derpfest with Arter97 kernel and is very nice but ROM is a little outdated in the android world since it's an April update and not being updated going forward. But honestly I'm pretty good with the device besides no speed wireless warp charging and not being able to use my DAC.

NO.
OOS 12 is ****.

Yes.
You are you. Every person use what they like/need on the phone. So you may have/not have any of them problems.

12 has worked great for my usage since it's release! Cheers

galaxys said:
12 has worked great for my usage since it's release! Cheers
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That's on OP?
Even Pixel's have had reported issues with it.
My N10+'s will stay on 9 and 10... no issues.
The camera is more of a menace with Android 10, but that's a Samsung UI thing
Definitely don't want active scoped storage though. 12 seems too busy with nickel and dime permissions; not needed for trusted apps. If an app isn't trusted... it's not loaded; KISS.

blackhawk said:
That's on OP?
Even Pixel's have had reported issues with it.
My N10+'s will stay on 9 and 10... no issues.
The camera is more of a menace with Android 10, but that's a Samsung UI thing
Definitely don't want active scoped storage though. 12 seems too busy with nickel and dime permissions; not needed for trusted apps. If an app isn't trusted... it's not loaded; KISS.
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Yes, on my 0nePlus 9 Pro and 10 Pro! Unlocked BL and Magisk loaded! Security is all over the map...

I wouldn't.
I'm still having silly issues that should have been fixed ages ago.
The app switcher UI freezes regularly.
The camera app glitches during video after a couple of minutes and the sound cuts out and video gets choppy.
Photos are often way over-exposed.
The "Always On" clock/display doesn't actually stay on.
I occasionally have issues with animation stuttering when scrolling and so on.
It was actually a pretty solid phone before I did the Android 12 update. I really should roll it back but I've just been lazy.

Weren't happy at all with OOS12. I used Derpfest and was happy with it, but as it's no longer maintained I needed something else.. Now on LineageOS 19.1 and I'm not searching for alternatives anymore, I'll probably use it until I switch phones. Battery isn't as good as on OOS11 (with custom kernel), but I manage a day without issues. You probably wouldn't if you're a phone gamer.

The 12 release for the 9 pro is poor. I only upgraded as it was a required step for my chosen ROM installation.

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Weren't happy at all with OOS12. I used Derpfest and was happy with it, but as it's no longer maintained I needed something else.. Now on LineageOS 19.1 and I'm not searching for alternatives anymore, I'll probably use it until I switch phones. Battery isn't as good as on OOS11 (with custom kernel), but I manage a day without issues. You probably wouldn't if you're a phone gamer.
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hi...do you have any issues with phone calls and bluetooth???

Dr.Pagan said:
hi...do you have any issues with phone calls and bluetooth???
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Normal phone calls work fine, no issues. I only use BT to listen to music, have a connected smart watch and libre sensor (diabetes sensor), all work fine (better than with OOS even). I do not use BT to answer calls, so I don't know how well that works.

For my experience oos12 was a great upgrade over oos11. Phone feels more smooth and I do get better battery life for my usage. A big noticeable difference in stand by drain while sleeping.

Spectre Nine said:
I wouldn't.
I'm still having silly issues that should have been fixed ages ago.
The app switcher UI freezes regularly.
The camera app glitches during video after a couple of minutes and the sound cuts out and video gets choppy.
Photos are often way over-exposed.
The "Always On" clock/display doesn't actually stay on.
I occasionally have issues with animation stuttering when scrolling and so on.
It was actually a pretty solid phone before I did the Android 12 update. I really should roll it back but I've just been lazy.
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I keep seeing similar complaints to yours.
I would just roll it back. Android 13 is looking like it will be a complete fubar. Scoped storage is still an Apple nightmare. Malware is far easier to deal with than these "improvements"
I think that so far Android 9 is the zenith point for this platform; a good balance of functionality, usability and security. I have no issues with Pie on my stock N10+; fast, rock solid stable, reasonably secure and most importantly it's fulfilling its mission. It's a joy to use this device because it does what -I- want and it's very predictable. Predictability makes spotting malware much easier as well as basic troubleshooting. As such I spend very little time doing maintenance or troubleshooting. This load is over 2 yo now. That's what Android is capable of... or should be.
Find an OS version that works for you and adopt it for the life of the device

Still on Android 11 take it matter of choice to update or not
users still have issues with android 12?

if you go by that, people also have problems with oos 11 and not just with oos 12. I personally use oos12 and have no problems

ChrisFeiveel84 said:
if you go by that, people also have problems with oos 11 and not just with oos 12. I personally use oos12 and have no problems
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Both 11 and 12 are a scoped storage mess.
Android 10 was the last version where scoped storage wasn't fully active by default.
Expect the potential need for a factory reset if you upgrade to 12. You may need to change settings and find other workarounds to get it running right.
Meet the green dot.

I did it, upgraded to OOS12 and I must admit there were some things I liked better battery life. But there were changes that I really really did not like.
I needed to fall back on Nova Launcher to get some of the visuals back and vibe back.
A couple of days ago I decided to put cRdoid A12 on it. I miss some options from OOS but overall I'm happier now.

General Warning for A32 4G Users (SM-A325F)

yesterday i was checking if there was a firmware upgrade for my phone (SM-A325F) on samfw. well for other reasons. i saw an update for other regions that was unusual. Samsung had bumped the binary bit version from 2 to 3. Now this scared me. since if the fw arrives for all the regions it will make it undowngradable to one ui 3.1 or 4.1. since I am using gsi's (Generic System Images) which is currently crdroid 9.2. It may cause a problem if samsung breaks something with the update. Since i wont be able to downgrade to older firmwares. Twrp might also be a problem since i have seen threads on a12 that some twrp versions do not work for some binary bit versions. That scared me. Although i could get around this by using repacksuper but still. I have a custom kernel made by myself that i am daily driving. it will make it hard to install since i'll have to decompress and repack boot.img. Then disabling encryption... i am pretty sure gsi's wont boot with encryption enabled. I have no idea on how i' disable it. without twrp. there might be ways i'd have to do research.
I might just be overthinking. but yes. i'll have to test when it comes out for my region. I am also waiting for one ui 5.1 which may also have bumped binary bit version.

D:

Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...

blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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Exactly

blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's. It can easily turn into a time devouring hurt locker tour if it damages, alters or destroys features or functionalities you are using and depending on.
Doing nothing breaks nothing...
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thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.

Captain_cookie_200 said:
thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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such as 60Hz bug happening on most new gsi's where it wouls refuse to switch to 90Hz. Only with A13 vendor. A11 vendor works fine.

Captain_cookie_200 said:
thats true. but i have been facing weird issues with android 13 firmware's vendor. thats why i wanted to upgrade. I wont for now. It also seems a bit slow to me. unlike other people saying that running generic system images on their vendor works fine and smooth. while its laggy for me.
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Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.

blackhawk said:
Between a rock and a hard place... Google punches these systems out too fast. Problems are a given. Best to stick with one version, find fixes, work arounds and be happy. Otherwise you'll constantly be mucking with it.
I'm still running 9 and 10 on my stock N10+'s. No way I'm upgrading. I prefer Pie though. Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo in June, still running fast and stable. Zero security issues in that time.
Scoped storage... No. It wasn't needed; it just causes headaches and unwarranted complexity.
Gookill invariably makes a mess out of anything they do (or kill it) eventually; it's their nature.
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these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with

Captain_cookie_200 said:
these bugs i face are expected since these are not device specific roms. but fix is always possible. One ui itself for this phone is kind of terrible otherwise i wouldnt have tampered with gsi's to start with
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Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.

blackhawk said:
Ive gotten excellent mileage from One UI once the device was optimized. Before it was optimized it was a mess. However Samsung firmware can vary widely from model to model, region, hardware and so on. That makes things more difficult and unpredictable.
Until you get on top on it Samsung is a pain. One reason I refuse to upgrade hardware, firmware or software is this device is running pretty clean, fulfilling its mission, requiring very little maintenance and it's fun to use.
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welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.

Captain_cookie_200 said:
welp for me its the opposite here. one ui is absolutely laggy with its terrible restricted animations for Mid range phones. Then it lags while doing normal tasks. i have found gsi's to be more smoother than one ui. I hate firmware upgrades too. but since this shet is weird and has litt unkown bugs no one has ever seen before upgrading to a newer fw is my only option. Otherwise i'd be stuck on one ui with terrible optimizations for this phone. My friends own the same Galaxy A32 4G and i have seen one ui lag on their phones. it is terrible.
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Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.

blackhawk said:
Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..

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using floating.xml tweaks i made my one ui installation some what usable. also note... (haha note..) your note 10+ is an older flagship phone. while the galaxy A32 is a mid ranger that samsung pays less attention to. Thus we are hit with such bugs and terrible optimizations disabled features till to this day. obv samsung rigs the one ui experience on these phones on purpose. otherwise they'll be "too good". even using alot of tweaks and mod doesnt help improve it much. trust me i tried daily driving one ui with floating tweaks and others..
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Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...

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Hard to say why that is without playing with it.
One UI should be fast, stable and use very little battery. If you saw this N10+ out of the box though it could be described as what you are seeing. It was a handful at first. Literally getting less then half the SOT it gets now. The lagging generally is caused by junk running in the background, that was noticeably slowing down this phone. Using up possessor and modem bandwidth. Quit the terror
I eventually got it optimized using with Package Disabler, settings and a few 3rd party apps. It's a completely different experience from that hog mess it first was.
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blackhawk said:
Likely true. The older N10+ is likely a better choice than the newer midrange Samsung's due mostly to hardware but maybe firmware too. The newer Samsung flagships haven't turned out all that well either. The variable refresh rate displays are causing a lot of troubles across the board. Scoped storage is another CPU cycle sucking issue on Android 11 and higher.
5G can add to the problem; if in use it can use a lot of resources.
Rather than squander money on their Fold technology Samsung maybe should have thrown the money at it's midrange phones...
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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.

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this is exactly why i am never getting a samsung again. especially midrangers. they are wful. idk why samsung even bothers to make phones if they cant maintain it properly. Yet mor phones are being added to A series line up day by day.
Like a software update literally bricked my fingerprint on display. looking at the logs. my keystore is gone and using no matter what firmware it wont come back. great samsung. the last great thing abt this phone for me is gone now.
Yet i remember how upgrading to one ui 4.1 from 3.1 caused an issue where my ril would restart when using data. It would happen randomly. One ui 5 fixed this later on but wow samsung...
i had to resort to gsi's to get a working phone again since one ui 3.1 was slow af.
samsung has basically fuked me in every single way. and now i am just stuck with this thing for 4-5 years.
so to fix such annoying bugs that still exist. i my have to do the update... Yes ik it may cause my ability of downgrading to go away but still.. atleast i may get a better experience hopefully. otherwise welp ig i'll be stuck on one ui again. sucks to be me.
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The N10+ Snap is still a good choice if you don't need to root if you can get one running on 9 or 10. The Exynos variant can be rooted but the hardware isn't as good. The spen is very useful.
I learned the hard way with my S4+ that it's a big mistake to upgrade/update the firmware especially on carrier phones. Haven't repeated that mistake.
I don't blame you for being irate about Samsung. They are a mess. The N10+ is the only Samsung I would consider getting even now.

I think this is getting off-topic.

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I think this is getting off-topic.
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yeah it is. main purpose of my thread was if twrp breaks due to diff version of bootloader. because i wont be able to downgrade once i upgrade. I could patch my stock recovery for fadtbootd but i would still love to have twrp.

An update. so i built a kernel for this thing using source samsung released with the bumped bit version. flashed it on an older bit 2 firmware. it works fine and i am daily driving it now. i thought it wouldnt boot. but it does.

So looks like the update i previously refered to had SB3 boot loader. i saw it for nepal. while i just saw one ui 5.1 drop for this phone with the U3 boot loader. i am upgrading and i'll tell wether the twrp and other stuff works. If not i'll report any workarounds i used.