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East Coast Trains - Browser Problem with wifi hotspot?

OK so this is bigger than the title I think but I can't be the only person with this issue.
Here in the UK I use the East Coast Mainline train service into and out of London. On that service they offer free wifi and having used it time and time again, it works OK.
But my Desire doesn't like it.
The service works by letting you connect and then redirecting your browser to a log on page where you need to enter your registered email address. Again on other devices this works fine
But on the Desire I am getting an error on the redirect saying that there is a problem with the server. From my laptop, I am having no problem reaching the server to log on.
So I can't use the service.
Now my guess is that the browser is somehow trying to render a mobile version of the page or something so I have tried both the built in browser and Dolphin HD but still the same error.
Now I know that some other hot spots use similar redirected web pages so maybe this is a problem with them. I have not come across any others yet so don't know.
So have anybody else come across this either on the trains I use or with hot spots in general and if so, is there a work around?
Thanks

Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?

aljwatson69 said:
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?
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From what I can see, this is the default setting (I assume you mean the "Mobile view (GWT)" setting)

Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.

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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.
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It's worth a try
Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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I think most paid for hot spots use these browser redirects when you first connect. I don't think it's a proxy thing though because you would have similar issues on some browsers on laptops etc

Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.

Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.
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Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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No, but you know we were talking about the Dolphin HD browser, not the standard one? Sorry if there was any confusion.

It's certainly showing as an option for me so I will give this a try next week and see if it makes a difference.
The problem however is not so much not being able to connect but how the Desire behaves when it finds an open wifi connection with no internet.
What I see is that the device associates to the wifi and gets an IP address.
Because it now has a live wifi connection, it stops using cellular data (3G, GPRS etc).
But because that wifi connection does not allow onwards connection to the internet (because I can't log in via the web page), nothing syncs! So for the duration of the train journey, the phone is not syncing mail etc.
The work around here is to remember to turn off the wifi before I get on the train and back on when I get off but that's a pain to remember each time.

I tried changing the user agent to Desktop (on default browser) as described here but had same problem trying to connect.
http://lifehacker.com/5547037/change-the-user-agent-on-an-android-phone

Possible Solution
Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete

PeteMc99 said:
Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete
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Good man
I was on the train again today and even messing about with the agent ID, no joy. I did spot the certificate error though so wonder if the Desire is not happy with that.
In the meantime I have tried the phone on other hot spots that have a browser log on screen and it has worked fine.
So it looks like East Coast has an odd setup but I am back on the train on Tuesday morning so will try the above then and report back
Many thanks

No problem, hope it works on Tuesday.

It works!!!!
Thank you so much for this.
In the end, I ended up setting up a bookmark for the URL you gave (eastcoastwifi.train) and then going straight for that. This then avoids the need to cancel the invalid certificate first.
As soon as I clicked said bookmark, I was presented with the correct East Coast log on screen and then bingo. Free WiFi
Of course I had forgotten just how slow it was on the train but never mind.
Again. Many many thanks

Pleased to hear it worked, I wonder many Desire users have just given up! As for the speed on East Coast, I suppose the best thing you can say is that its free and there's usually a 3G reception if all else fails unlike West Coast.

Web Page Rendering

I have this situation thats hard to narrow down. Looking to see if anyone else has seen it.
This startef for me on April 6th, and continues through the update.
When visiting some web pages, the page will connect, but no data is displayed. Its obvious the page has connected. There is NO connection issue. I am connected.
Once this situation occurs, no other web page will display data. A reboot is requried.
Now, this occurs, as far as I can tell, only on certain pages, and only about 1 in 15 times. It only occurs while on WFI, and never occurs when connected only to 4g.
The pages I have had trigger this situation are:
Twitter homepage. But not in the last week.
XDA.
Has anyone else seen this? I can reproduce this everyday if I wish. It most definitely is NOT a data disconnect. But is fatal in that once it occurs, no other web page will display.
My xda page will scramble and change formating. No other page does this.
Any thoughts???

At first I figured the best I could do was test when I got home, so I wen't back to the forum list. And then it hit me! At work, using ie and no ad-block software XDA will sit and spin as certain ad site's fail to render (I just assumed it's blocked by my employer).
I don't have this problem on my phone, but then I use board-express. This never happens in Firefox or at home (where I do use ad-block software).
Could this be related? When it happens my page is all-white, and is done loading. After 5 minutes it 'pops' back to XDA.
Another question: do you experience this in mobile and desktop versions of the browser?

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At first I figured the best I could do was test when I got home, so I wen't back to the forum list. And then it hit me! At work, using ie and no ad-block software XDA will sit and spin as certain ad site's fail to render (I just assumed it's blocked by my employer).
I don't have this problem on my phone, but then I use board-express. This never happens in Firefox or at home (where I do use ad-block software).
Could this be related? When it happens my page is all-white, and is done loading. After 5 minutes it 'pops' back to XDA.
Another question: do you experience this in mobile and desktop versions of the browser?
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I would not have even thought of it as a rendering problem until I read about the Twitter page being rendered badly.
I just set the IE mobile browser to Desktop version and will be attempting to reproduce it. I cannot reproduce it on the PC at all...

It's actually a WiFi issue. I've had this problem on occasion with both my windows phones as well as my HP touchpad w/ WebOS and Android. It has something to do with certain routers holding onto a connection even when a device has dropped while in sleep mode.
I currently have a Belkin router and have had limited success in resolving it with this router. The best result I had was shortening the DHCP leasing, but still have issues on occasion.

BooR4dley said:
It's actually a WiFi issue. I've had this problem on occasion with both my windows phones as well as my HP touchpad w/ WebOS and Android. It has something to do with certain routers holding onto a connection even when a device has dropped while in sleep mode.
I currently have a Belkin router and have had limited success in resolving it with this router. The best result I had was shortening the DHCP leasing, but still have issues on occasion.
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I'm pretty sure you're right. I apparently only get the issue at home. Work...no issues. 4g no issues. I actually changed AP's yesterday at home. I had a dual band AP. Though faster, the AP was always dropping. So I put in an older Linksys and its steady. We'll see if i can dupe it with the old one.

Mobile Network Traffic despite WLAN connected

Hi,
when my HOX is lying near by PC Speakers, i can hear Internet Traffic over EDGE/UMTS excatly all 3 Minutes. (I hope u can understand what i mean)
I´m wondering about that bescause WIFI is active and connected, and i never had this with my DHD.
Due to optimizing Battery life, i disable mobile Network manually when i´m at home and have WIFI connected.
I use ARHD 9.1.0 with stock Kernel and EQS + APM + %Batterycircle + Autobrighness by jotha.
Baseband: 2.1204.135.20
Build; 2.17.401.2 CL89015
Any Ideas whats generating this traffic and why the HOX don´t use WIFI for that?

its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.

lawrence750 said:
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
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Thanks for your Answer, but i don´t hear that Traffic if mobile Network is disabled, so i thinkt it can´t be "normal GSM Traffic".

oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.

lawrence750 said:
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
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Thanks again, tested, but unfortunately the traffic is still there

try download osmonitor, might be other apps more specific that can help, but osmonitor should do the trick i hope.
set your screen not to turn off, just for ease..
goto the connections tab, process tab will also be useful and watch it until the noise happens. you're looking for either a process, that jumps to the top of the list when the sound happens (spike in cpu usage), and then does it every time the sound happens, or a connection, that ISN'T your local or external wifi ip address, but also has similar behaviour, ie the connection is created when the sound occurs, and is then gone a minute later.. (the connection should show an app name)
if you find an app that looks like it could be causing it, then try to uninstall it temporarily to see if it fixes the issue. if it does fix the problem, the next step would be to contact the developer of that app to request a fix for it. it could however be a system process causing the problem.
failing the above, you could try the same sort of diagnostics, but with logcat instead. i don't actually know how to initiate logcat, i'm sure a google will tell you how though.

Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.

blahquader said:
Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?

lawrence750 said:
you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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This is crazy - when the screen is on, the sound isnt audible. It only happens when the screen is off.
In the Connections Tab is only one Connection without my WiFi-IP, and whois shows me its a DNS Server from my Carrier (vodafone).
In the Process Tab i can see that "System" comes up on Top for ca 2 seconds, further no action.
The 2 Connections which stays established:
Clearing the Donwloadmanager Data was a Success... Thanx again.
The Connection to Google from "Google Bookmark-Sync" is still there. Gmail Sync is deactivated in accounts.
I think i´ll give it up and live with it

[Q] Tethering fix

Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!

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Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!
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There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.

Justinchi said:
There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.
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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem

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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem
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Glad you got it working! Yeah, idk about the Google Search trick, but I'll try it out sometime.

Returned home from short trip, Wifi connects but does not function

As the title says, I didn't change anything about the phone's configuration when I was out, didn't download any new apps or change any settings that would interfere like this. No one else has changed my home network in my absence.
Nevertheless, most of my apps, such as Instagram, the Play Store, Twitter, Wikipedia, Chrome; almost all their requests time out. There seem to be short windows where data will load, and Instagram appears to load comments and post metadata, but no images. It's basically unusable. Occasionally an exclamation mark will pop up over my Wifi symbol in the notification center. Strangely, I can still reach my Steam and Battle.net authenticators, but the moment I try loading the Steam app, nothing comes up. It's like the device can only handle plaintext over Wifi.
All of the apps work fine over cellular data.
Also, there is a toast that appears whenever I restart my phone that says "Power On" that I've never noticed before. I was rooted using Xposed, the only modules I used were Snapprefs, Xinsta, Physical Button Music Control, and Greenify Experimental Features, all of which I uninstalled. The toast still appears with the latter two disabled. Only other rooted apps I had besides Xposed were Nova Launcher, Greenify, Busybox, and Root Checker Basic, all of which have been removed but Nova.
I am running 6.0.1 with the latest update.
Any ideas? I am still within 15 day warranty so I could theoretically return the phone (which I was contemplating doing anyhow since 10gb of functional storage is a bit too small for me), but would rather not have my hand forced, and eat into my cell data plan.
So far I have tried forgetting the network, wiping cache/dalvik with TWRP, removing the Google VPN, resetting all network settings, and a couple things I can't remember offhand now. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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Any ideas? I am still within 15 day warranty so I could theoretically return the phone (which I was contemplating doing anyhow since 10gb of functional storage is a bit too small for me), but would rather not have my hand forced, and eat into my cell data plan.
So far I have tried forgetting the network, wiping cache/dalvik with TWRP, removing the Google VPN, resetting all network settings, and a couple things I can't remember offhand now. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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First, if you want to return your device because the 16gb model doesn't have enough space, go ahead.
If it is mostly because of this WiFi issue, I wouldn't return the device, it is almost certainly the case this is some configuration issue (possibly in concert with some Android bug) which can be resolved.
Is it possible when you came home the device connected to a neighbor's AP and thus you couldn't use data, but it wasn't immediately obvious, so you ended up forgetting your own network and reentering the config, but the key was off by a little, and from that point on, it was just assumed the wifi config was correct?
When you say Google VPN, are you using WiFi Assistant and Project Fi? Have you tried disabling auto-connect fir the WiFi Assistant?
Have you tried using the old Lollipop DHCP client (perhaps your IP address got used by another device and the new Android client doesn't handle that well?) Just grasping at straws.
Have you tried turning on Bluetooth while WiFi is on? Perhaps there is a bug with them working independently of each other in certain situations.

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Is it possible when you came home the device connected to a neighbor's AP and thus you couldn't use data, but it wasn't immediately obvious, so you ended up forgetting your own network and reentering the config, but the key was off by a little, and from that point on, it was just assumed the wifi config was correct?
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I am 100% positive I am on my own home network and that I used the correct key. I'm not sure what you mean with regards to the rest of the 'config', I have always used the standard wifi configuration, just typed in my key and had it work.
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When you say Google VPN, are you using WiFi Assistant and Project Fi? Have you tried disabling auto-connect fir the WiFi Assistant?
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I actually forget what it was called, it was under Settings>Wireless&Networks>More>VPN. There was one entry there with an icon. I forget the name of it, but the icon looked like a stock Google icon and I think it had google in the name. I am on Project Fi, not using any wifi assistant (at least not in Advanced Wi-Fi Settings), but when I tried to toggle that option on just now, something called "VpnDialogs" crashed, so I assume that VPN entry was that. But again, the assistant wasn't on.
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Have you tried using the old Lollipop DHCP client (perhaps your IP address got used by another device and the new Android client doesn't handle that well?) Just grasping at straws.
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I did, when I first googled this was one of the things I found, sadly it did not help.
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Have you tried turning on Bluetooth while WiFi is on? Perhaps there is a bug with them working independently of each other in certain situations.
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I don't use Bluetooth, and trying to toggle it off/on from the control center just gives me a repeated "unfortunately, Bluetooth Share has stopped" error message.
I have decided to get the 32GB 5X since I do want more storage, but since I would like to be able to root my phone again and use Xposed, I would still like to hear any other ideas you have for troubleshooting this problem in case it reoccurs.
I reflashed the latest update to see if that would fix it, no dice. When I send the 16GB model back I have to factory reset it anyway, so I suppose I'll know if that does it.
What puzzles me is why I can load text from instagram posts that have been posted while I've been having this problem, but not images. Makes me think that maybe my connection is being super throttled somehow rather than non-functional, but my PC's speeds are normal. Perhaps some internal part is damaged? I do have a case and it hasn't taken any serious tumbles, but it has had one or two small falls from maybe 2 feet high.

AbanadonedFace said:
What puzzles me is why I can load text from instagram posts that have been posted while I've been having this problem, but not images. Makes me think that maybe my connection is being super throttled somehow rather than non-functional, but my PC's speeds are normal. Perhaps some internal part is damaged? I do have a case and it hasn't taken any serious tumbles, but it has had one or two small falls from maybe 2 feet high.
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It is easy to test if you have some network connection vs none.
In terminal or adb shell
ifconfig wlan0
ping www.google.com
1st command will tell you (among other things) if your wlan picked up an IP address.
2nd command will test whether you can send ping packets over your connection.
I'm sure there are millions of ways of doing the above, I just gave you one example.

Strangely, the solution seems to have come from factory resetting my router. I ruled this out initially because my other old phones were working fine on wifi, my phone is now getting WiFi again.
Now to figure out what the hell this "Power On" toast is about...

AbanadonedFace said:
Strangely, the solution seems to have come from factory resetting my router. I ruled this out initially because my other old phones were working fine on wifi, my phone is now getting WiFi again.
Now to figure out what the hell this "Power On" toast is about...
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I've encountered something similar where the router runs out of NVRAM space because it has recorded too many DHCP clients, it won't hand out new IP addresses, but if you are existing or already have one, it is fine.