OK so this is bigger than the title I think but I can't be the only person with this issue.
Here in the UK I use the East Coast Mainline train service into and out of London. On that service they offer free wifi and having used it time and time again, it works OK.
But my Desire doesn't like it.
The service works by letting you connect and then redirecting your browser to a log on page where you need to enter your registered email address. Again on other devices this works fine
But on the Desire I am getting an error on the redirect saying that there is a problem with the server. From my laptop, I am having no problem reaching the server to log on.
So I can't use the service.
Now my guess is that the browser is somehow trying to render a mobile version of the page or something so I have tried both the built in browser and Dolphin HD but still the same error.
Now I know that some other hot spots use similar redirected web pages so maybe this is a problem with them. I have not come across any others yet so don't know.
So have anybody else come across this either on the trains I use or with hot spots in general and if so, is there a work around?
Thanks
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?
aljwatson69 said:
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?
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From what I can see, this is the default setting (I assume you mean the "Mobile view (GWT)" setting)
Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.
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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.
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It's worth a try
Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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I think most paid for hot spots use these browser redirects when you first connect. I don't think it's a proxy thing though because you would have similar issues on some browsers on laptops etc
Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.
Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.
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Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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No, but you know we were talking about the Dolphin HD browser, not the standard one? Sorry if there was any confusion.
It's certainly showing as an option for me so I will give this a try next week and see if it makes a difference.
The problem however is not so much not being able to connect but how the Desire behaves when it finds an open wifi connection with no internet.
What I see is that the device associates to the wifi and gets an IP address.
Because it now has a live wifi connection, it stops using cellular data (3G, GPRS etc).
But because that wifi connection does not allow onwards connection to the internet (because I can't log in via the web page), nothing syncs! So for the duration of the train journey, the phone is not syncing mail etc.
The work around here is to remember to turn off the wifi before I get on the train and back on when I get off but that's a pain to remember each time.
I tried changing the user agent to Desktop (on default browser) as described here but had same problem trying to connect.
http://lifehacker.com/5547037/change-the-user-agent-on-an-android-phone
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Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete
PeteMc99 said:
Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete
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Good man
I was on the train again today and even messing about with the agent ID, no joy. I did spot the certificate error though so wonder if the Desire is not happy with that.
In the meantime I have tried the phone on other hot spots that have a browser log on screen and it has worked fine.
So it looks like East Coast has an odd setup but I am back on the train on Tuesday morning so will try the above then and report back
Many thanks
No problem, hope it works on Tuesday.
It works!!!!
Thank you so much for this.
In the end, I ended up setting up a bookmark for the URL you gave (eastcoastwifi.train) and then going straight for that. This then avoids the need to cancel the invalid certificate first.
As soon as I clicked said bookmark, I was presented with the correct East Coast log on screen and then bingo. Free WiFi
Of course I had forgotten just how slow it was on the train but never mind.
Again. Many many thanks
Pleased to hear it worked, I wonder many Desire users have just given up! As for the speed on East Coast, I suppose the best thing you can say is that its free and there's usually a 3G reception if all else fails unlike West Coast.
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Hey guys,
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I just upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.1. I have installed Live Search successfully but I am having trouble using it while at home. I can select "Gas Prices" for example when I'm connected at home but I get an error that the server did not understand the request. Please check your settings or try again later. I have no problem at all when I'm at work and connected via a VPN connection. I can run any of the tools with no hitch. That being said, I know that the issue is not with the Live Search application. It must be with the WiFi. I have a Linksys Wireless-G router with standard settings. It does have a network key associated with it. The interesting thing is that I can browse on my phone with no problem at all while at home. It is just when I try to access various tools in Live Search (e.g. Gas Prices, Movies, Traffic). If I select Web within Live Search, I can browse anywhere I want. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys,
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I just upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.1. I have installed Live Search successfully but I am having trouble using it while at home. I can select "Gas Prices" for example when I'm connected at home but I get an error that the server did not understand the request. Please check your settings or try again later. I have no problem at all when I'm at work and connected via a VPN connection. I can run any of the tools with no hitch. That being said, I know that the issue is not with the Live Search application. It must be with the WiFi. I have a Linksys Wireless-G router with standard settings. It does have a network key associated with it. The interesting thing is that I can browse on my phone with no problem at all while at home. It is just when I try to access various tools in Live Search (e.g. Gas Prices, Movies, Traffic). If I select Web within Live Search, I can browse anywhere I want. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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Ummm thats pretty weird, so you can browse the internet and all at home on your WiFi is that correct? also try to restart the phone and see if that works or if that does anything.
I tried power cycling about a dozen times. I even removed the battery. No luck my friend. It's so frustrating too because it was working. I fiddled around with a few settings and now it won't even work at the office anymore but I have no problem browsing.
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I tried power cycling about a dozen times. I even removed the battery. No luck my friend. It's so frustrating too because it was working. I fiddled around with a few settings and now it won't even work at the office anymore but I have no problem browsing.
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Make sure you have the latest release. I had to "upgrade" my Live Search 3 times before I got the most recent working copy. Now everything works perfectly.
I updated to wm 6.1 and I'm getting the same problem too. Was there any resolution to this? I surf the web ok but nothing else works.
pharmeceutikle said:
I updated to wm 6.1 and I'm getting the same problem too. Was there any resolution to this? I surf the web ok but nothing else works.
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Please, where did you get the version 6.1? From their website I can find only wm6.
http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
could you please upload the update or give us a link?
thank you
Sky have finally pulled their finger out and written a dedicated windows 6.* application to allow people to use remote record (you need to register with sky for this)
Have tested it on my Touch HD running KWBR's vanilla rhodium 6.5 based rom and it all works fine
Yippie, at last!!!
hi, would you gently post the link to the page on sky's site containing this app? i'd need to have more info about it but i honestly cannot find it myself :\
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hi, would you gently post the link to the page on sky's site containing this app? i'd need to have more info about it but i honestly cannot find it myself :\
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Same... where did you get the app? Id like to know a bit more before I start putting in my sky details
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Same... where did you get the app? Id like to know a bit more before I start putting in my sky details
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http://mysky.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/mysky/whatsnew/landingpage4e9ck/article?contentid=5290310
Here is the link from the sky pages.
The link on the site (http://p.wecomm.com/sky) goes to all of the different versions that you can get and I just uploaded the Touch HD one for everyone yesterday.
Have confirmed it as all working fine yesterday and have successfully set remote record for 2 programs without any issue (as I had an existing username/password for remote record when i used to use the java app on my N95)
Spudgun
thank you mate... as i suspected it wont work for me though
What problem are you having?
Have you used remote record before and have it linked to your Sky+ system at home?
It not, there is a really good guide to this on digitalspy
Spudgun
Other than the popup keyboard when trying to sign in, I would say on initial looks this is pretty sweet! We've been waiting for a dedicated app for a long time and I for one am happy I no longer need to use the web browser to view the tv guide.
So far so good, +1 for the happy user list.
The keyboard is a bit crap isn't it and it kind of gets in the way when entering your username/password, but after that it isn't an issue at all.
Thanks for posting this - it's exactly what I've been waiting for too.
I've set a couple of things to Record, so now I need to check on my Sky+ Box at home to make sure it's all going through.
Thanks again.
This looks very handy but the app doesn't seem to close on mine when I try to exit.
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This looks very handy but the app doesn't seem to close on mine when I try to exit.
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I had that issue one time last night, and had to close it via the task manager. I'm willing to put up with that for the convenience that this app brings though!
Just got the Christmas Radio Times today, so i am sure i will be using this app loads over the festive period when I am away from home.
Andrew
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This looks very handy but the app doesn't seem to close on mine when I try to exit.
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Yep, same for me but I can minimise it and close via task manager. All the recordings I set worked a treat and for me this is a definate keeper!
Thanks to the OP for the heads up!
Do you need your phone line plugged in to use this?
TIA
Joel
Yeah I have to do the same stuff to close the app - minor annoyance I guess.
What's more weird though is that I tried it yesterday before I'd registered the online userid etc and I was able to see the EPG. So far so good.
Now that I've registered an account and linked it to my actual Sky subscription etc, the EPG doesn't work.
I get the main menu, EG Entertainment/Documentaries/Kids/Movies etc but no matter which I select, the next screen is blank and no epg content is shown.
Any ideas?
Good question about the phone line thing too - would like to know that myself - could it be related to the above problem?
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Do you need your phone line plugged in to use this?
TIA
Joel
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No you don't need the phoneline plugged in. I've never had the phoneline plugged in for my Sky+ and this app works just fine.
I may try out one of the java based versions later on though, to see if the exit bug is fixed on that one
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Yeah I have to do the same stuff to close the app - minor annoyance I guess.
What's more weird though is that I tried it yesterday before I'd registered the online userid etc and I was able to see the EPG. So far so good.
Now that I've registered an account and linked it to my actual Sky subscription etc, the EPG doesn't work.
I get the main menu, EG Entertainment/Documentaries/Kids/Movies etc but no matter which I select, the next screen is blank and no epg content is shown.
Any ideas?
Good question about the phone line thing too - would like to know that myself - could it be related to the above problem?
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The phone line on your Sky+ Box does not need to be plugged in for this to work.
I had the same problem with an empty EPG when I changed my Region to SouthEast (Sky+ Options within the App) - I set it back to London and it worked fine.
Thanks for the tip - changed to London again and sure enough the epg works again.
Can't record though still. I got an error saying my profile isn't allowed to record so I googled it and found it's because I'm not the 'primary' account holder (my wife is), so I tried it by activating it with her details and I still get the same error even though I'm logging in with her details and it accepts the login and has been confirmed as activated.
Grrr, and WTF?
Cret said:
Thanks for the tip - changed to London again and sure enough the epg works again.
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I changed my entry to "London and South East" and it worked fine - I think it's a case of finding the right one for your area.
As for the Recording, so need to make sure your Sky+ Box has the Account Registered and that you have Registered for Remote Record.
It's all here : http://mysky.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/mysky/remoterecord
Not saving password
Hi,
I have got this app up and running and have entered my user id and password and am then able to access the epg and record programs.
However, if i exit the app and then restart it, it does not remember my password and I have to re-enter it - a bit of a pain to do this each time.
I did hit the Save button after entering the password.
Is anyone else having this problem.
Cheers.
I upgraded from my G1 to the new G2.
I am in the military and currently deployed to Iraq. I pay for wifi internet in my dorm. Using my Laptop or my G1 i am able to connect to a wifi service out here that i pay for. once i connect i pull up the browser and it will redirect me to the log in page for the server (where we have to enter a username and pass to allow acceses to the internet. without entering it we are only connected localy). when i use my G2 i can connect to the wifi hotspot no problem, it shows me "obtaining IP adress" and then says "connected to balad-hotspot" just like it would on my computer or G1. but when i pull up the browser it just goes to a "web page not available" for anything i type in. it wont automatically redirct me like both my laptop and G1 do. i even tried typing in the adress it pulls up on my computer when it loads the log in screen, but still shows me "web page not available" Does the G1 and G2 use the same browser? and if so why doesnt it redirect me? what else could cause this problem or fix it please?
with the new OTA update for wifi calling and sms messages you can see why i would love to have this issure fixed. also if i go to a free wifi area (such as a recreational center, where there is no log in neccessary, just connect and go) i have no problem connecting with my G2. so i know the wifi works with it. it just wont seem to redirect my to the log in page or allow it to come up.
firstly: thanks for what you do for our country.
try a different browser. i recommend dolphin HD
thank you!
hmm ok, ill try looking for that tomorrow. can be found in market?
Yes, it is in the market
Wow, they have WiFi at Balad now? Man, when I was there 3 years ago we had to wait in line for a computer! As the others have said, try using a different browser. I'm always switching between the default and Opera depending on what page I'm trying to access.
Oh yeah, if it's anything like Google Voice, the new update may not work for WiFi calling, depending on what country the IP address you snag is registered to. I had Google Voice on my G1, and as soon as I went to Europe and tried to use it on a WiFi hotspot, I got a message saying that Google Voice was not usable in the country I was in.
Stay safe and don't eat too much Taco Bell or Burger King!
haha ya, but its a HUGE rip off. way expensive and slow as can be. but its really our only option to get interent in dorm so im a sucker and bought it.
and for the goodle voice, hmmm i have it on my laptop and it works with this internet. dont know if it will be different with G2 but we shall see.
I tried Dolphine HD and Opera and still having the same issue. it only ever pulls up "web page cannot be displayed" The Internet guys out here said it was my browser. i confirmed with tmo that the browser is the same for the G1 and the G2. yet it works with G1 and not G2. and still wont work with any of the new browsers. Im stuck and this blows!!!
When I try to open Samsung Hub it crashes while trying to open and gives me an error message saying that 'this service is not supported in this country'. Samsung Watch On crashes and says that it 'can't detect country, please try again later'. I've tried resetting after force stopping and clearing all app data as instructed by Samsung's "help". It would be odd if this service actually wasn't available in this country especially as they offer that $50 credit for purchasing tablet. I'm wondering if this is an issue that everyone is experiencing or if it's just me.
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When I try to open Samsung Hub it crashes while trying to open and gives me an error message saying that 'this service is not supported in this country'. Samsung Watch On crashes and says that it 'can't detect country, please try again later'. I've tried resetting after force stopping and clearing all app data as instructed by Samsung's "help". It would be odd if this service actually wasn't available in this country especially as they offer that $50 credit for purchasing tablet. I'm wondering if this is an issue that everyone is experiencing or if it's just me.
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That's weird, they're both working fine for me on my US Note 2014. I have seen a couple of other people report that issue too though, I'm not sure why it's doing it, but most people aren't having those issues.
I would guess that for some reason the tablet doesn't think it is in the US. One place I would start is a close examination of your router and wifi. Do a traceroute and see if you can find any evidence of an IP address outside the US.
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I would guess that for some reason the tablet doesn't think it is in the US. One place I would start is a close examination of your router and wifi. Do a traceroute and see if you can find any evidence of an IP address outside the US.
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So, I tried a traceroute, something I've never done before, and it shows my connection jump all around the world practically. If this was the reason for the apps to fail to recognize my country, what, if anything, could I do to fix it? Thanks for the help.
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So, I tried a traceroute, something I've never done before, and it shows my connection jump all around the world practically. If this was the reason for the apps to fail to recognize my country, what, if anything, could I do to fix it? Thanks for the help.
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Can you post some traceroutes? Do sites like Yahoo, Google and Comcast.
Also can you get into your router configuration settings and see what time zone the router is set to?
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Can you post some traceroutes? Do sites like Yahoo, Google and Comcast.
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You might have to baby step with me a bit here. Previously, I just went to a traceroute website and typed google.com into their search box. It gave me a list of IP locations and showed a map with a physical route on it. It appeared to jump all over the place, between the US, where I am, and somewhere in Europe. Just now, I did it again and the route seemed to stay within the US. It should be the same info I get regardless of which device I use to perform this, right?
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Also can you get into your router configuration settings and see what time zone the router is set to?
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The time zone was wrong, but after changing it to the correct time zone, the issue persisted. Is there another setting I need to change? Thanks to the both of you. Samsung hasn't been especially helpful here. They had me clear the app data, confirm the time zone on the tablet, and even a factory reset. Didn't help. I still need to try connecting using another Internet connection than my own, once I get some more free time!
Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!
tonesofheresy said:
Hey guys,
I apologize if this has been asked but I couldn't find it on any particular thread. About 10 days ago I started getting T-Mobile's upsell for tethering that I'd (thanks to the awesome developers) been able to successfully evade for over a year. Is there any fix for this? I'm (now) running Lollipop but it happened before upgrading so it seems unrelated. Thanks in advance!
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There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.
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There's only one solution working for me right now, but you'll have to buy this app: Wifi Tether Router
Go into /system and make a copy of your build.prop
Open your build.prop with a text editor and add this line all the way at the bottom:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Save the file and reboot your device
Open the wifi tether router app and go to "configure wifi router." At the bottom of the page, there's a button to visit the site for device config settings. Scroll down that page to find settings for Note 3.
Once you're all set up, you should be good to go. Only thing you have to do is use a UserAgent switching app on your browser to make it think you're on a mobile device. I'm using User-Agent Switcher (with the blue globe icon) for Google Chrome.
Hope that helps.
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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem
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Hey, thanks for your quick reply, but with a user-agent switcher, everything works even now. I was hoping to avoid changing my headers because certain sites won't be served to a "mobile" device. Luckily, my internet tv apparently doesn't send any headers because I can still tether unlimited...ly with that, but it's definitely frustrating getting mobile versions of sites on my laptop. I have observed a somewhat strange behavior that I wonder if we can exploit. It's somewhat finicky, but I've noticed that if I Google the name of a site I want to access (still via the address bar, though), the search results come up without TMO nagging me about a hotspot and oftentimes the link from the search results takes me to the site. I can't make sense of it, but as an example, if you try www.yahoo.com, you'll get the hotspot page, but if you google "yahoo" and click the first result, you get taken to the site. *shrug* I'm not smart enough to figure it out, but perhaps this observation will help someone else solve the problem
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Glad you got it working! Yeah, idk about the Google Search trick, but I'll try it out sometime.