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First Impressions, and initial Issues?

Hardware is beautiful and working great thus far, coming from a blackberry z10.
issues:
- noticed the best buy demo units are slightly snappier and quicker vs the verizon one that was released
- spigen cases i tried covered up thr mic holes at bottom by charger so need to change cases now (reported in another thread)
- i config'd my 5 non-gmail email accounts (hotmail, outlook, yahoo, etc) and noticed my battery was draining like crazy, 50% gone in like an hour, phone was super hot, and then i realized ghe inbox for all accounts was not syncing and phone keeps retrying constantly. after thorough testing, the issue was that if "group by email conversations" was setup for each account under account advanced settings, once i disabled this for all my accounts, the device was flying, no hot phone, and battery was great

1. I am surprised Wiz is not the usual mess and I am not compelled to go to Nova yet.
2. Radio reception for data is the same as the S3 and S4. Same high battery drain and hottish device in weak signal areas. Good though in medium or better signal areas.
3. Display is great, but still would rather have a great 1080p for battery more battery life.
4. Audio output is low from the audio jack, but Poweramp's gain increase fixes this.
5. Sound quality from the audio jack is good.
6. The speaker is okay, but could be better.
7. Charge time with included charger is fast.
8. Performance is as great.

I would like to agree with everything above and add:
1. Switched to Nova Launcher and is a bit snappier.
2. Not sure how much faster this phone is compared to my LG G3 real world.
3. I must say the N4 stock UI is faster than the LG G3 stock UI.
4. Samsung should really take a page from HTC One M8 or the LG G3 for audio sound quality and output. Both of those phones smoke my N4 especially in volume loudness.
Using Neutron Player and Westover W40s with all lossless recordings. Definitely need to crank up the preamp a bit.
5. Feature set is Awesome so far.

Arie McD said:
I would like to agree with everything above and add:
1. Switched to Nova Launcher and is a bit snappier.
2. Not sure how much faster this phone is compared to my LG G3 real world.
3. I must say the N4 stock UI is faster than the LG G3 stock UI.
4. Samsung should really take a page from HTC One M8 or the LG G3 for audio sound quality and output. Both of those phones smoke my N4 especially in volume loudness.
Using Neutron Player and Westover W40s with all lossless recordings. Definitely need to crank up the preamp a bit.
5. Feature set is Awesome so far.
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agree note 4 stock ui smokes g3 stock ui
Everything is a positive for me but recent app button (wish it was menu on one tap and recent button was long press on home button hopefully root will fix) and screen wake for text msgs besides that its perfect

any bluetooth issues? Or is it just my accessories (jawbone speaker, car stero)--doesn't even see device
Yes I put it in discover mode while scanning

minor issues
I'm finding that the audio jack is really finnicky with different types of headphones. Some don't work at all. I've seen in the store some are compatible with Apple or Android, is there a way to tell the difference by looking at the plug?
Also I agree that this phone looks incredible, however when looking at the black version, if you look inside the USB port it does appear to still be plastic with some sort of metal coating. This is also evident if you remove the s pen and look at the back case. It is a whitish gray color. The antenna lines through the sides of the case are also white where the bevel is on the front and back. It doesnt bother me at all, just something that I noticed.
One last thing is that on certain videos on YouTube I don't have the option for 1440p. I know on my tab s I had to go back to an earlier version of youtube to get this. Does anyone else have this option for videos on YouTube that are 1440p on their computers or tablets?

Are any of you getting extreme lag with Facebook and instagram?

Cons:
1. The stock launcher is slow. Nova is tons better.
2. Had to turn off all those animations within the developer menu. Device is much speedier now.
3. Glass protectors shows this halo effect because of the 2.5 glass. Wish they just left the screen completely flat.
4. Fingerprint scanner works great with my index fingers but not my thumbs. But once lollipop hits I won't be using the fingerprint scanner for unlocking purposes. A Bluetooth or NFC device will work nicely.
5. Root on the Verizon model may come to Kitkat but it might be near impossible on Lollipop.
6. And where the heck is Gear VR?
Pros:
1. The display quality is better vs Note 3
2. Touchwiz actually looks nice when it comes to the settings menu.
3. The IR blaster strength is so much better vs the Note 3. I don't have to point straight at my devices.
4. The build is a clear step up. Feels super solid.
5. Best camera I've used in a smartphone.
6. Gear VR is the primary reason for upgrading to the Note 4.
The 3 apps I recommend for this phone is:
AcDisplay = Moto X like notifications
Gravity Screen = Turn phone on and off without the power key. Wave hands over the proximity sensor to see AcDisplay and place phone face down to turn off.
Smart Remote = Unleash the true potential of the IR blaster.

Yes I get the the lag on Facebook as well

arkgrotto811 said:
Are any of you getting extreme lag with Facebook and instagram?
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no phones flies on everything.
new issue. bezels are chipping and scratched already. going to go in and get new note or ask for refund

oneandroidnut said:
no phones flies on everything.
new issue. bezels are chipping and scratched already. going to go in and get new note or ask for refund
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Same here. Mine came with scratches on the bezel right out of the box. Might just be exchanging for the turbo or getting a new note 4. Still in my 14 day return period! ?

asides from technical issues, physical issues included from other posts
- not that many cases have the proper mic holes for VZW N4
- most glass screen protectors are causing halo effects, manufacturers still working on them

Chuckleb0ne said:
Same here. Mine came with scratches on the bezel right out of the box. Might just be exchanging for the turbo or getting a new note 4. Still in my 14 day return period! ?
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seriously!? glad im not the only one. i am returning for the refund (minus $35 restock fee) and probably going to buy dev ed note but we will see. going to go in tomorrow or this weekend when turbo is out. i have until nov 5th

oneandroidnut said:
seriously!? glad im not the only one. i am returning for the refund (minus $35 restock fee) and probably going to buy dev ed note but we will see. going to go in tomorrow or this weekend when turbo is out. i have until nov 5th
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Yea, I watched the Verizon employee take it out of the box and immediately hand it right to me. The first thing I noticed was the scratch on the top lol. It really disappointed me. Anyways I hope the turbo is in the stores tomorrow so I can make a quick exchange. Does it take a couple days to do a even exchange? I bought my phone from a Verizon retail store.

Chuckleb0ne said:
Yea, I watched the Verizon employee take it out of the box and immediately hand it right to me. The first thing I noticed was the scratch on the top lol. It really disappointed me. Anyways I hope the turbo is in the stores tomorrow so I can make a quick exchange. Does it take a couple days to do a even exchange? I bought my phone from a Verizon retail store.
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wow i dont know how mine got it. it came off all in my case and it is a mess. and i am just returning for refund. i havent even opened factory battery yet lol and they should exchange in store no problem

oneandroidnut said:
wow i dont know how mine got it. it came off all in my case and it is a mess. and i am just returning for refund. i havent even opened factory battery yet lol and they should exchange in store no problem
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Yea they have to accept it if it doesn't show screen damage and really bad damage.

Chuckleb0ne said:
Yea they have to accept it if it doesn't show screen damage and really bad damage.
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yup im just going to go in and not say a word about anything just say i want to return too many good phones right now i dont know what to get and check out turbo while i am there lol

My wife and I both got new note 4s this weekend. I wanted to wait for a black one (BB only had white), but yesterday was the last day to get the $200 trade in on my ancient Evo. Overall, it's been a good experience. I noticed that I have a bit of a gap on the right side of my white note 4, but it is less of a gap than I had on my old GS3. I got a case that covers the gap, anyway.
Things I love:
1. The spen is very cool. There's so much that I can do with it, and am still figuring it all out.
2. I've never had a phone that had such good radios. Places that I normally struggle with 3g get me a couple of bars of 4g. My GS3 was terrible with the radios. Really, just terrible. I'm not sure if there is another current phone that has radios this good.
3. The screen really is a thing of beauty. Pictures are sharp, and colors are bright and vibrant.
4. The build quality is solid. The phone feels great. The buttons all have solid click feedback. Serious thought went in to the aesthetics of this phone. I've never had a complaint about that on any Samsung phone that I've had or used.
Issues that I'm having:
1. The wifi is terrible. I have a Netgear Nighthawk router. I've played with the settings a bit, and nothing that I've done has made a difference. None of my other electronic devices are having a problem. Well, except for my wife's note 4.
2. There is an ever so slight greenish tint at the very bottom of the screen that's only visible on white screens. Sometimes I am not even sure if I'm seeing it. My wife does not see it at all. I do tend to be picky about screens, and will willingly return an electronic device because of screen issues. It's most noticeable on lower brightness, and not noticeable on full brightness.
3. The viewing angles on this aren't that great. Mine is actually better than my wife's. If I tilt her phone even a bit, it starts to look greenish. Mine will do it as well, but it takes a more extreme angle.
4. The colors ARE amazing, except for white. White isn't really well represented on either of our phones, unless the brightness is cranked up.
5. Chalk this one up to personal preference. The phone is huge! The GS3 is so much smaller than this. I've read a lot of comments that say that you just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the size. I've only had it for a day, so it remains to be seen if I will adapt.
These seem like a lot of complaints, but really, they're minor. For the most part, this is a solid phone with a TON of cool features. I've been looking at all of the phones for quite a while, and there simply isn't another phone with this array of neat stuff.
The thing is, I feel like there really aren't any phones out there that as good as this one. Looked at the iPhone like I do every time my contract is up, and there's really nothing new there. I really have to laugh at NFC that can only be used for Apple Pay. The droid turbo seems ok, but looks a bit dated. And it's sort of a fat phone, though it's much more pocketable than the Note. I also spent some time looking at the G3, and just didn't like it. I'm not even sure why. Maybe it was the skin.
I am not sure what I'll end up doing with it, because I don't know what I'd get if I did return it. I don't want to exchange this one just for a perceived screen issue that might only exist in my mind and that I probably won't notice two weeks from now. Participating in a screen lottery only leads to madness, and I've been down that path before. My GS3 didn't have the most uniform screen, and I totally forgot about it. Because both of our Note 4s have wifi issues, I'm guessing that it's not hardware related.
I think what it comes down to is, can I adapt to the size?

usmaak said:
My wife and I both got new note 4s this weekend. I wanted to wait for a black one (BB only had white), but yesterday was the last day to get the $200 trade in on my ancient Evo. Overall, it's been a good experience. I noticed that I have a bit of a gap on the right side of my white note 4, but it is less of a gap than I had on my old GS3. I got a case that covers the gap, anyway.
Things I love:
1. The spen is very cool. There's so much that I can do with it, and am still figuring it all out.
2. I've never had a phone that had such good radios. Places that I normally struggle with 3g get me a couple of bars of 4g. My GS3 was terrible with the radios. Really, just terrible. I'm not sure if there is another current phone that has radios this good.
3. The screen really is a thing of beauty. Pictures are sharp, and colors are bright and vibrant.
4. The build quality is solid. The phone feels great. The buttons all have solid click feedback. Serious thought went in to the aesthetics of this phone. I've never had a complaint about that on any Samsung phone that I've had or used.
Issues that I'm having:
1. The wifi is terrible. I have a Netgear Nighthawk router. I've played with the settings a bit, and nothing that I've done has made a difference. None of my other electronic devices are having a problem. Well, except for my wife's note 4.
2. There is an ever so slight greenish tint at the very bottom of the screen that's only visible on white screens. Sometimes I am not even sure if I'm seeing it. My wife does not see it at all. I do tend to be picky about screens, and will willingly return an electronic device because of screen issues. It's most noticeable on lower brightness, and not noticeable on full brightness.
3. The viewing angles on this aren't that great. Mine is actually better than my wife's. If I tilt her phone even a bit, it starts to look greenish. Mine will do it as well, but it takes a more extreme angle.
4. The colors ARE amazing, except for white. White isn't really well represented on either of our phones, unless the brightness is cranked up.
5. Chalk this one up to personal preference. The phone is huge! The GS3 is so much smaller than this. I've read a lot of comments that say that you just need to give it a bit of time to get used to the size. I've only had it for a day, so it remains to be seen if I will adapt.
These seem like a lot of complaints, but really, they're minor. For the most part, this is a solid phone with a TON of cool features. I've been looking at all of the phones for quite a while, and there simply isn't another phone with this array of neat stuff.
The thing is, I feel like there really aren't any phones out there that as good as this one. Looked at the iPhone like I do every time my contract is up, and there's really nothing new there. I really have to laugh at NFC that can only be used for Apple Pay. The droid turbo seems ok, but looks a bit dated. And it's sort of a fat phone, though it's much more pocketable than the Note. I also spent some time looking at the G3, and just didn't like it. I'm not even sure why. Maybe it was the skin.
I am not sure what I'll end up doing with it, because I don't know what I'd get if I did return it. I don't want to exchange this one just for a perceived screen issue that might only exist in my mind and that I probably won't notice two weeks from now. Participating in a screen lottery only leads to madness, and I've been down that path before. My GS3 didn't have the most uniform screen, and I totally forgot about it. Because both of our Note 4s have wifi issues, I'm guessing that it's not hardware related.
I think what it comes down to is, can I adapt to the size?
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I have a note 3, give it a few weeks, and the phone becomes "normal" size. I had issues with size when I first got my note 2.

No voice command to turn off the alarm clock?
I don't know if I just am unable to find it but have you guys figured out if there's a voice command to "STOP" the alarm clock? I loved it back when I was using my Note 2. I am pretty sure that this feature also existed on the Note 3. Did Samsung decide to take this feature out on the Note 4? It may not be a big deal but it still was such a convenient feature.

Now that there's root, fix camera issue?

Is there a way to change the annoying feature of the camera (only issue I have) that just loves to float around? Holding camera still, it still moves around which drives me NUTS!

Hmm what issue is that? I shook my phone around just now, and all it did was focus quickly, then stood still.
do you notice any drift when you lay the phone on a table or a cell phone mount? any other movement might be just phone trying to focus to your small hand movements.

Are you referring to the OIS, cause that's normal if so. Not an issue to my knowledge..
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Hmmm, I don't have this problem. If my hand is slightly moving the image stays relatively still, and if my hand is still the image is perfectly still.

shahsmerdis said:
Hmm what issue is that? I shook my phone around just now, and all it did was focus quickly, then stood still.
do you notice any drift when you lay the phone on a table or a cell phone mount? any other movement might be just phone trying to focus to your small hand movements.
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Are you referring to the OIS, cause that's normal if so. Not an issue to my knowledge..
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I've just noticed the camera drifts even when I'm perfectly still, it may be the OIS but to me that's an issue and is ridiculously annoying as I can't zoom into anything because it just moves all over the damn place. Wonder if we can fix that somehow with root

If I'm not mistaken, OIS is controlled on the board of the camera. Due to this, there may be no way to control it. I would maybe stop into a Verizon store and play with a floor model. If the floor model doesn't exhibit this behavior than I would try to exchange your current device for a new one.
I personally do not have any issues with drift. The only I experience that floating look is when my hand is moving when trying to aim the camera.

If I rest the camera on something stationary, then zoom in fully to 8X, I will see the image move around. I don't notice it when zoomed out.
I have seen this on at least one other Verizon G4, as well.
Those who don't see the image moving around, can you reproduce it if you try it the way I described above?

V30 First Impressions Thread

Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)

Nice! I can’t wait to see the pics it takes.

I played with this at Verizon yesterday, and I'm still on the fence. The front facing camera was HORRIBLE. I held my G5 next to it and took a selfie, and the G5 was so much better. The rear camera did seem to take awesome shots, but still slow to take and delay in swiping between front and back cameras, something I really thought they'd have a better handle on by now since I had the same issues in the G4 and G5. I loved it otherwise, I think it's a gorgeous phone, I like the looks a lot more than the Galaxy phones.
I went in wanting the phone, but two separate Verizon reps were adamant in saying I should stay away from LG, that they have nothing but problems, they only sold maybe 2 G6's, they have class action lawsuits against them, and they tell customers to go take a hike when asking for a new phone after having multiple of them die in a row from a known defect. Theyd rather keep sending you defective phones repeatedly under warranty. So idk. I'm reeeally torn between this and the S8+ which has very similar specs and is cheaper at this point, but I don't like having only one rear camera.

Initial results at the museum are looking pretty good. I'm impressed so far for the most part. As for selfie camera issues, I was disappointed at first until I figured out those stupid settings at the bottom of the screen. After you turn off the skin toning and lightning, the images are much better. Then they work well with post processing.

Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?

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Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?
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Haven't played with GPS yet. I can't really speak to how well or not how well it works. I used wifi during set-up. It worked but my wifi is slower than my network connection and I regretted using it. Not a knock on the wifi of this phone, it's just that my carrier network is that much faster than my home wifi. Only BT I've done so far is to connect it to my car. That went much better and smoother than my V20. It took me many attempts over an hour and a half to get my V20 and car paired. The V30 paired the first time. The next test will be to see if I have to restart my phone after a few days to keep the connection from going wonky. (Which is a ritual with my V20 that occurred at least once a week.)

I got mine this past Friday. It is slippery to hold, you will def need a case to keep it from sliding out of your hand. I'm still not sure why designers can make insanely powerful devices but can't figure out that you actually need to hold on to it to use it. I'll probably get a DBrand skin or equiv when they are available. It is super light. Kinda feels flimsy it is so lightweight even though it is not. My last phone was a Nexus 6P, before that an HTC M9, before that an HTC M7. All three of those feel like tanks by comparison. I'm not sure yet if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Camera is nice but uses a lot of noise reduction. It has endless options that will take some time getting used to. I'm not sure yet if it is as good as HTC's U11 which as an incredible camera IMO (my GF has a U11). Looks better than my Nexus 6p for sure though. Much faster too. I love the wide angle lens!
Audio from Headphone jack is insane. I'm using the BEATS headphones from my old HTC One, I can only imagine how good it would sound with high end headphones. Phone speaker is ehhh. Nowheres near as good as HTC or Google phones with front facing speakers. Or HTC U11 which seems to have crazy sound magically radiate into space.
As for speed, its as fast as any other 2017 phone I have tried, the hardware is all the same. The screen is amazing. I mean AMAZING! I can't really see a difference between 1080 and 1440 quality or speed wise. I thought at first there was but now think it is more of a placebo effect. I have been keeping it maxed mostly for the bragging rights of it being higher rez than Apple's silly Superduper mega retina display, what ever that means.
It is to early for me to tell if battery life makes a difference with resolution. I have read it is supposed to eat more power with the higher rez. It isn't as near bezelless as I thought it would be. It seems to be a marketing trend for company renders to show super edge to edge displays until you actually get it and there are good sized bezels. Not that I mind, it is just something I noticed. The screens are not any larger, the phone is just shrinking around it making the device seem small and the screen seem smaller than it is. My Nexus 6p dwarfs the V30 in the hand and the display just feels larger on the Nexus even though it is not. Kind of another odd placebo effect.
Speaking of battery, it seems to last well over a day of playing hard with it but is still to early to tell since I keep plugging it in to transfer files. After the newness wears off I think I will be able to get 2 days out of it.
The power button, or lack there of is great I think. Instead of a dedicated button, it is just the fingerprint scanner. You can click it, hold it to open restart options etc. Works great and is non intrusive by comparison to a dedicated button that I usually hit by accident all the time.
The UI is not terrible. It is fast and responsive. For the record I am a fanboy of Sense and Stock. LG's UI has a lot more options for customization over Stock but some things seem like they just changed from stock to say they did. Especially in the Settings menu where they feel extra pages of settings tabs is preferable than a simple list. The worst part is LG's apps that are mostly broken or limited.
Contacts doesn't work right and crashes sometimes when I try and edit a contact. You can not fully disable it. I'm using Google Contacts when it will let me.
Calendar is ok, about the same as Google Calendar. Again you can not fully disable it for some reason.
Camera app is good so far, or at least I like it.
Messaging app sux. It freezes sometimes and when it works you can't insert gifs. Again you can't disable it. I'm using Google's Messenger.
Keyboard is limited, I just use the Google Keyboard.
Gallery is simple and works for on device pix but doesn't allow cloud access. Since most of my pix are on GoogleDrive I just use Google Photos. And again you can't disable it.
Smart Cleaning is a cleaner app. The phone is so fast I can't see any difference after using it.
LG Health I haven't tried yet.
LG Smart World is just some LG app browsing thing. Haven't really played with it other than browsing themes.
So far I love the phone. Out of 2017 phones I have used the HTC U11 and Essential Phone I like the V30 best of those 3. My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)
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Deztroyah said:
My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
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Yep. This method works on G6, so it should work on V30 also, be careful on what you disable, you could potentially brick the device.
BTW any display problems? And what variant did you buy?

Thanks! As for the variant, I have the AT&T 64gig one. There are a few AT&T apps, all can be disabled. I actually use a few of them. And no display problems that I have seen. I think the display is one of the best parts of the device.

Deztroyah said:
I got mine this past Friday...
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Awesome overview :good: Although I already ordered v30 (black, 64gb) from South Korea, it was still nice to read, especially regarding the screen/size. I am not a fan of 18:9 in general since native support is still behind (cropped,zoomed videos), but I like what LG does - basically putting 18:9 screen in a more like 16:9 frame.. this makes it look much better than sausage-style s8/s8+/note8.

Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/

gavinfabl said:
Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
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Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.

ChazzMatt said:
Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.
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Thanks. You’re right. UK only gets standard V30. Wondamobile supplied the V30+. The Pixel 2 will take better pics , but like everything it depends on the scene. I was out this morning with my Canon & V30+ and will get a post up next week with the results.

Ok. Audio review now done on the LG V30 covering speaker, Bluetooth, wired and type c. Over a dozen headphones used too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/1...-wired-over-12-different-headphones-compared/

I'm on my second Sprint lg v30 plus. Had to exchange the first one due to digitizer issues. On one side of the screen. It only responded to taps. My luck I guess.. Overall I like the device. It's light, fast and has a nice design. The camera sucks tho compared to my s8+ especially in low light. Not a bad camera but no where near the pixel 2 or Samsung phones. Was going to get the note 8 but I doubt that will ever get twrp. Hopefully this device gets root and twrp

Ok full review is finished now. Includes a camera showcase and 32 reasons why it's the best phone in the world, with the 32nd reason the best one.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/28/lg-v30-review-camera-showcase-this-is-the-best-phone-in-2018/

First impressions coming from a V20

Well, I started this about eight different times, and decided I'd finally actually write down my thoughts and hit send.
I've had the phone for a week now, upgraded on Friday from my rooted (stock ROM) V20, on Verizon. My main reason for staying on the V20 was to keep root for my hotspot as I was one of the lucky ones with the old unlimited plan (the one that VZW kept jacking the prices up on). Well after getting my girl an iPhone X, and knowing I was going to need to feed that thing a lot more data than a 2GB plan, I bit the bullet and changed to the "new" unlimited (ugh, I know). And then after having my V20 start exhibiting some random power off's in the middle of the day at 50+%, I decided to see what was out there. I compared the V30 to the S8+, Note 8, and Pixel 2XL.
The Pixel, while a great device, lost out with the lack of an SD card, headphone jack and wireless charging. I missed using the wireless charging on my old LG G2, and having a nice plump SD card already, seemed a waste to drop that. Yes I can use a dongle to plug in headphones for listening at my desk at work, but I lose sh*t left and right enough as it is. The Note 8 is amazing, but just a touch larger than I wanted to hold full time. I wouldn't use the pen, and comparing it to the S8+, you lose a tiny bit of screen density for... largeness. And that wouldn't have been noticeable anyway, but I would need something I could hold comfortably. Over to the S8+, then. Nice phone, great build quality, and I've never had an issue with Samsung phones before. Before my V20, I had an S6 Edge, and that's still on my plan as a backup phone. Which is actually one of the reasons why I decided against the S8+ - it looks too familiar now. Other than a little length and the lack of a physical home button, it just reminds me of my Edge. That's not to say it's a bad thing, but the design of the V30 was a refreshing change from anything else. I knew I'd lose selfie quality (the horror!), but I figured how bad could it be? Though, a little interesting that the S8 having been out so much longer than the V30, and they are almost identical in spec. So was Samsung that far ahead back then? Or are we just slow on the take? Well whatever. So I picked up the V30.
First, yes, the selfie camera is lackluster. In good light, and if you can hold your hand steady enough, it's ok. It won't win awards. There's the Google Camera Mod floating around that people enjoy. A little on that- it's fine for what it is, and adds a few neat features. And I haven't found a mode that will let you record higher than 1080 video, either. Not that I'm making movies but I will be using it for video so the higher resolution on the stock cam is preferred. I took a pair of pictures on the LG camera on Auto, and the Google camera on default settings, and they both look close enough to not make a difference. I did notice that the selfie camera seems to be better in the actual camera apps but inside other apps (Snapchat, IG, ect), they seem to lose quality. Or rather, did. Randomly today, it seems to be a little better, but who knows. For all I know, maybe I had a tiny smudge on the front camera the whole time? But I'm ok with it now. HOWEVER: Holy crap the rear camera glass scratches easily. I bought the phone, and refused to spend 50 dollars on the limited cases at the store. I ordered one Saturday, it got here today. And in five days, it's noticeable to look at, scratches on the camera glass. That's from a pocket with no other items, and from sitting on my desk at work. Not playing hockey with my phone. Recommendation: Get a freaking case ASAFP if for nothing else than to protect your back camera. Spend 5 bucks on Amazon for a cheap pos if you have to, but get something on it. It isn't bad enough to effect the camera in any way that is noticeable, but man it's going to bug me now, just knowing.
The home buttons are a pain in the a$$. I mean, they work fine, but the showing/hiding tricks take some getting used to. I've found some apps are a lot less receptive to working with it. Snapchat (yeah, I know) is notorious for it. You send someone a message, and then try to swipe up from the bottom to bring up the buttons to go home, and it does - while swiping all over the keyboard again, so then you have unwanted characters coming up, people are waiting for whatever you're "typing" to send, etc. So you have to go into the settings and disable that for certain apps. Side note on that: Apps that you've changed that for, you have to go BACK and change the setting for that app any time it's updated. So if you update the app, you have to go back and turn off the home button hiding for that app again, it seems to reset every time.
This isn't so much on the phone, but the Tempered Glass protector from Verizon is garbage. All $35 worth of it. Leaves a massive air spot under most of the phone, so tapping on the phone results in a lot of audible clicking sound and less precise sensitivity. Just throwing that out there. I normally wouldn't have, and I'll be taking this off if I can find a case I like better. The one I got, is nice and slim, but doesn't protrude tall enough to protect the screen if set face down. This is 6 dollar insurance for the interim.
The fingerprint sensor so far is snappy as can be. Even to a point that when I just want to light the screen up to check a notification (had Always On disabled), and it would actually unlock just trying to tap the power button half the time. Not a bad thing, just surprising. Volume buttons feel great, as does the rest of the phone. It might lack the feel of the Samsungs, but it does feel decent. Slippery as hell though, another reason to keep a case on if you're even remotely clumsy. The screen itself is wonderful to look at, and I think it's only a matter of time and tweaks as apps catch up to full Nougat and extended ratios and things, between apps and phones where things look better.
Obviously there are still a lot of things I haven't gone through in the settings to find and personalize, but so far, I'm loving the upgrade. Feels good in the hand, more comfortable being a little smaller than the V20 was. Battery life so far has been good, but I do watch a lot of videos and listen to alot of music at work, so I tend to burn through it quick. The quick charge is a godsend coming back up. Other than the frail camera glass on the back (and really that seems to be a common complaint with a lot of phones) and the weaker than expected front camera, I'm glad I picked it. It stands out design-wise, and it's right up there in spec with everything else out there. Not massive to hold, quick and snappy, and with your launcher of choice, worth the investment so far.

Thanks for this!

Agree with you on all points! Thanks!
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Question Pixel 6 Pro Camera Rattle

I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?

Mine sounds like it has a few marbles in it when I shake it. Ditto for the S22 ultra but not as noticeable. When the OIS isn't active, the lens can move. To keep it parked would require a constant current draw.

Tanquen said:
I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?
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They ALL make the ratting noise when you shake them because of the stabilizer in the camera. It's totally normal. Yours did it from the day you bought it but you probably haven't noticed until now.

It is the lens elements in the periscope assembly so it is a bit louder than normal but all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
Samsung even have a page dedicated to it. https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/...of-the-device-when-shaking-your-galaxy-phone/

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all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
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This.
Now, some OIS are prone to rattle more, usually on bigger sensors/especially with a periscope lenns.
You can also shake any of your older phones (Iphones, Pixels, Samsungs, whatever). They will ALL make a rattling noise (as long as they have an OIS), if you shake them and hold it close to your ears. Most "older" phones with smaller sensors/OIS are just much more quiet in that regard.
It's absolutely normal for your Pixel (6) to have a rattling sound when you shake the phone.
Mind also, that this is a potential weak point. If you rattle the phone too hard for too long, it's possible for the OIS to break. Now that will usually never happen in a normal usecase, but I've seen several reports of motorbike owners over the years and their OIS problems, since the constant bumping (they used their phones for navigation) with high speed (100 km/h +), thundering over potholes and the likes, permanently damaged the OIS. It is, after all, a moving part. And all moving parts can break.
Now, I do not know how "hard" your rattle is. Your text said that this "developed" over the months. That should NOT happen. So they question is: Did the rattle really increase, or did you just become aware of it?
If it "changed" or "increased" it is indeed possible that something changed/broke (you can test the OIS functioning by making a simple video and seeing if the stabilization kicks in).
You can try to find out if it's the "normal" OIS rattle sound by going into the camera and forcing the different lenses (zoom in or out), whilst slightly shaking the phone. If the zoom kicks in (periscope lens) the "heavy" rattle should effectively disappear. If that is not the case, it's rather likely that something broke at your end.

Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.

Got my pixel 6 pro on 29th march I just shook it by ear and can hear a rattle

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Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.
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If the camera app is open the rattle goes away as the bias current applied to the coil is fighting movement.
Interesting tidbit when using a video camera with stabilized lens on a moving ship we have to disable stability (when camera is on tripod) or the rocking of the ship causes the stabilizer to hunt and the image itself moves slightly which looks very similar to a motion picture scene on a ship where it is intentional to give the viewer the feeling of the ship rocking. This with professional gear with large lenses, not sure if it would affect phone cams though.

Put it on 4x zoom and you wont hear the rattle.
It's normal