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One X focus issue

I have tried different roms/kernels what not. But i wasn't able to resolve this issue. Camera seems to be fine outdoors. But while I am taking pictures of something close, The camera doesn't focus at all. What so ever. Tried different apps/settings. I bought a unlocked phone from taiwan. It doesn't have warranty in India. So, warranty is out of question.
I am including couple of sample images. Can you guys please help me figure out whats going on?
Thank you, guys.

first of all , i love the view of from your window . I have the same issue as you , but not all the time with closed objects , also when i try to scan the qr code of airdroid it doesn't work no idea why , i have to log on to see my phone (which is fine ) , but as you said i find a focus problem at me too. Try to reset camera to default , worked for me :-??

I did that. But no result.
and another doubt, If it is a hardware issue, how come pictures are good when it is out doors?

vamsi_krishna said:
I did that. But no result.
and another doubt, If it is a hardware issue, how come pictures are good when it is out doors?
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Have you looked at the camera lens cover? Smudges and scratches can screw with focal range depending on at what focal distance the mark becomes visible to the sensor.
Smartphone and P&S cameras use exposure-based autofocus systems. As the AF drops focal distance a lens defect can begin to creep into it's focal range, distorting it's ability to gauge proper exposure and therefore focus is off.

Tigerlight said:
Have you looked at the camera lens cover? Smudges and scratches can screw with focal range depending on at what focal distance the mark becomes visible to the sensor.
Smartphone and P&S cameras use exposure-based autofocus systems. As the AF drops focal distance a lens defect can begin to creep into it's focal range, distorting it's ability to gauge proper exposure and therefore focus is off.
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I checked the camera glass. It is squeaky clean.

vamsi_krishna said:
I checked the camera glass. It is squeaky clean.
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You on Sense or AOSP?

Tigerlight said:
You on Sense or AOSP?
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Now on Viper 3.7.9

vamsi_krishna said:
Now on Viper 3.7.9
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When you pan around and stop does the camera attempt to autofocus? Or is it constantly at the same focal distance?

NO, it is not trying to autofous. Focus seems to be fixed. It is adjusting brightness though.

I found myself exactly in the same kind of situation one day. After a few experiments I realized that camera focusing mechanism is no longer working and probably because I had dropped the phone few days earlier. I can still manipulate focus between infinity or macro by tapping the phone quite hard but not too hard. It's working, because of the lens in front of the sensor can move freely. So tapping phones back moves lens away from sensor and you can shoot close ups, tapping front on the screen (just be carful) moves lens closer to sensor and you get infinity focus.
Just ordered new replacement camera. Let's see how that goes.
I hope I made any sense.

hawk728 said:
I found myself exactly in the same kind of situation one day. After a few experiments I realized that camera focusing mechanism is no longer working and probably because I had dropped the phone few days earlier. I can still manipulate focus between infinity or macro by tapping the phone quite hard but not too hard. It's working, because of the lens in front of the sensor can move freely. So tapping phones back moves lens away from sensor and you can shoot close ups, tapping front on the screen (just be carful) moves lens closer to sensor and you get infinity focus.
Just ordered new replacement camera. Let's see how that goes.
I hope I made any sense.
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Thats it. That did it. Now I can do macros.
Felling good after figuring out what is wrong. But its awful to know that I have a hardware issue. I didn't dropped the phone even once. I am taking care of it like it is a baby. I got the phone couple of weeks go. Damn. How much will the replacement cost. approximately?

vamsi_krishna said:
Thats it. That did it. Now I can do macros.
Felling good after figuring out what is wrong. But its awful to know that I have a hardware issue. I didn't dropped the phone even once. I am taking care of it like it is a baby. I got the phone couple of weeks go. Damn. How much will the replacement cost. approximately?
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Well, if it's a new phone then it should go under warranty and shop or authorized service center will probably fix it for free. In my case the phone is no longer under a warranty and I will replace camera myself. Found one in e-bay. There are quite a lot of options. Wheater those are real deals and will the camera be the model that fits remains to be seen when I get mine this week. I will deffinitely post my experience replacing the camera.

The phone is not under warranty. Will take it to local HTC service center and will enquire about the possibilities.

having the same issue on different roms

As promised here is my experience with camera replacement. Few people in this forum have have shared their experience with replacement cameras and mainly those have been not good since they got wrong camera module. It's actually quite a bit gamble, when you buy camera module from eBay, because many sellers don't actually post correct specs and you really don't know what you are getting. For example, HOX+ camera does not work correctly on HOX. Maybe some models do but you never know.
I was lucky and the module I got http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130968093640 was right one and I must say that probably my original camera was a bit faulty since day one, because I never got this kind of quality as I do now.
Word of caution though, taking HOX apart is really quite tedious and delicate job. Specially when you need to remove also the motherboard. So find and study instructions on this forum and on Youtube before you are going to attempt to do it on your own.

[Q] focusing issue

Hello guys! Currently using the LG G3 for a couple of months now. I just found that the focus of this phone is completely garbage when it comes to close up and macro shots. I already tried searching google and android forums including XDA (maybe I'm bad at searches, I don't know LOL). I'm not sure if mine is a dud but whenever I bring an object near point blank range, it seems to have difficulty focusing on it. I tried comparing it with a Note 3 and iPhone 5S by bringing a lightning cable tip and USB cable tip near the camera.. Both focused on the objects except the G3. It seems to be fixed on the background objects, I even tried on a white canvas and close up focus still does not work! I even tried wiping the laser beside the camera, cleaning it with a microfiber cloth. Still doesn't focus at very near objects.
Help? Please? Will appreciate the replies! I hope I'm just missing a feature or just maybe forgot to turn something off. I really don't want to switch phones because so far this is the best. This is a deal breaker for me though if this doesn't work out well.

EDIT: problem is still there. i thought turning over the phone and making the laser autofocus stay at the bottom would help solve my problem with this phone. still nothing. i tried putting a pencil close to the lens like "in your face" close, and it really can't focus on it! Note 3 and iPhone 5S was able to focus on it but not the LG G3..

Probably the laser angle can't change, so if it's super-close to the camera lens the laser doesn't actually hit the object, thus it never focuses.

TheStickMan said:
Probably the laser angle can't change, so if it's super-close to the camera lens the laser doesn't actually hit the object, thus it never focuses.
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I suspect the same thing. If that is the case, then I'm quite disappointed with LG for this. Everything is spot on about this smartphone except this tiny (but irritating) issue. I'm already considering selling it just because of this. I take pictures of objects, most of the time super close, so people can see the smaller details. Using other camera apps didn't help. Really a hardware stretch I guess.

How close are you taking these pics? I've taken pics of my food and it focused okay. Of course if impromptu macro shooting is something you do often... this'll be a deal breaker for you.

TheStickMan said:
How close are you taking these pics? I've taken pics of my food and it focused okay. Of course if impromptu macro shooting is something you do often... this'll be a deal breaker for you.
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Sometimes I take photos of small gadgets' details like the voltage of the charger, tip of the usb port etc. to show a few people like what comes with the package and stuff. Still undecided though, I'm about to trade to an M8 but i told the guy to hold on. Have to read more about this.

Dust on rear camera

Hey Fairphoners,
I guess you've heard about the problem of having dust inside the phone and on the camera (see main fairphone post or https://fairphone.zendesk.com/hc/communities/public/questions/200997773-dust-inside-phone).
How are you dealing with this? I myself had to open my phone recently to clean it and now, a few weeks later, my camera can't focus again..
If many people are affected by this problem one could (and should) get in touch with the fairphone staff.
Greetings!

Bump!
I won't believe that no one else experienced this problem yet, so let me ask this: how many of you still use their cam since the beginning without having cleaned it.
Don't be so shy

I do, though it might be my low standards.

arghwhymustiregister said:
Bump!
I won't believe that no one else experienced this problem yet, so let me ask this: how many of you still use their cam since the beginning without having cleaned it.
Don't be so shy
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I did it yesterday after I finally got me the fitting tools.
It's way better again and the pictures are better. You see it best, when looking at details (I compared a dusty one with the cleaned one, when taking a picture from the same object)
But since then my microphoe is really almost silent. I have to speak really loud so the other side will hear me...
I did not do anything to the microphone...
Anyone an idea?

@Vinnl: So, did I get it right that your camera still focuses correctly (especially when you are close to the object)? Or did you mean that you are not really using the camera..?
@haiag: Hmm.. I did not experience nor hear about such a difference in the microphone sensitivity - maybe some of the connectors/connecting parts on the motherboard have been touched?

arghwhymustiregister said:
@Vinnl: So, did I get it right that your camera still focuses correctly (especially when you are close to the object)? Or did you mean that you are not really using the camera..?
@haiag: Hmm.. I did not experience nor hear about such a difference in the microphone sensitivity - maybe some of the connectors/connecting parts on the motherboard have been touched?
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I don't know what "correctly" is, but most of the times is focuses, sometimes it doesn't, but I guess that is normal? I use it now and then, but not that extensively.

I got my FP1 in January and took a number of pictures since then (~700 or so). Never had problems, no dust, no focus issues, no red tinting. I even can't remember where I put my Casio Cam as the FP1 makes faster and better snapshots. But I think that won't help you anyway now, does it?

Argh, you guys have been lucky with the phone..
But thanks for the answers, 'cause any answer is better than no answer
PS: To test your focus just take a picture of a text and see if it's sharp/readable afterwards.
Mine can't focus a text on a piece of paper anymore.. Either it shows the red rectangle and it doesn't take the pic or the green one but then the pic is not readable/completely blurred (and I mean like *completely*)

arghwhymustiregister said:
Argh, you guys have been lucky with the phone..
But thanks for the answers, 'cause any answer is better than no answer
PS: To test your focus just take a picture of a text and see if it's sharp/readable afterwards.
Mine can't focus a text on a piece of paper anymore.. Either it shows the red rectangle and it doesn't take the pic or the green one but then the pic is not readable/completely blurred (and I mean like *completely*)
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This is what I get: https://i.imgur.com/0rAk4nS.png
(If I move the camera closer to the paper it cannot focus either, but I suppose that is to be expected at some point.)

^that looks good, compared to my pics

Question Something loose in camera area?

First let me say that I haven't dropped my phone ,except couch to rug. This morning I was trying to rotate the display and I noticed a clicking sound in the camera area. Now when I shake it it sounds like a kids rattle. As far as I can tell the camera still works - zoom, focus, all modes. But it's really troubling that a new phone has something come loose. And more concerned that it's going to continue breaking down. NOT happy at all!

Have you never heard your camera lenses move about your phone before?
When not in use, the lenses don't have a magnetic field keeping them in position and move around freely within the module obviously. All phones do this.

There have been multiple posts in multiple threads in this section. It's normal having to do with the telescoping camera. I believe it's reported that the iPhone is like this too.
I'll add that I haven't noticed anything from mine, and I have really sensitive hearing. I've also had mine in an OtterBox Defender case from day one, so I don't know if that muffles the sound.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
First let me say that I haven't dropped my phone ,except couch to rug. This morning I was trying to rotate the display and I noticed a clicking sound in the camera area. Now when I shake it it sounds like a kids rattle. As far as I can tell the camera still works - zoom, focus, all modes. But it's really troubling that a new phone has something come loose. And more concerned that it's going to continue breaking down. NOT happy at all!
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That's the OIS. Every OIS rattles.
The bigger the sensor/OIS, the louder the rattle.
Meaning almost every modern phone has this rattle. Just try it out with your old phone, shake it whilst holding it next to your ear: You will hear the rattle.
The P6 Pros rattle is - loudness wise (vs other periscope phones) - slightly above average, but that's not concerning.
Samsung has a support page about this:
Do you hear a small noise from inside of the device when shaking your Galaxy phone?
FAQ for Samsung mobile devices. Find more about Do you hear a small noise from inside of the device when shaking your Galaxy phone? with Samsung Support
www.samsung.com
You can manually test this, by going into your camera and making sure that the tele lens is activated (zoom greater than 4/5) - if you shake it then, the sound will be massively reduced, simply because the OIS has kicked in. In it's "idle" state it creates the rattle.

Thanks all. Weird that I didn't notice it until today. I am a little less concerned now. I'll check the wife's 4a5G when she gets home. My LG G7 didn't have this rattle.
Also sorry about the dup post - didn't see the others, and I check at least once a week, but I hate this app. I had an (unofficial) app a few phones back that mimicked the website well - this one is a mess!

OnceAMatrixMan said:
Also sorry about the dup post - didn't see the others, and I check at least once a week, but I hate this app. I had an (unofficial) app a few phones back that mimicked the website well - this one is a mess!
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Yeah. I still use the new app occasionally but I do most of my XDA browsing (and especially searching) on the computer and a little in the Android Chrome app. The new forum software definitely has some nice things about it (although I can only think of one or two on the spot). I know they absolutely had to change forum software to make things easier in the background. I'm guessing that the new forum software came with a sample template app and either it's just not possible to implement things as nicely as in the old app, or they haven't been able to dedicate the time and effort to it.
Ah! Found a good search to find other posts about it, not that it matters now and it's probably not all-inclusive. Keyword: rattle.
Personally, whenever I hear about folks actually trying to reproduce the sound on any phone, I get nervous they are going to break their phones.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Personally, whenever I hear about folks actually trying to reproduce the sound on any phone, I get nervous they are going to break their phones.
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I don't want to cause any panic here, but it is definitely possible to break the OIS with prolonged, excessive shaking/vibration. It's a moving part that can only take so much. In a normal everyday-usecase, that will probably never happen, but there are a couple reports of people who use their phone on their motorcycle (various manufacturers/different phones) that have a broken OIS. Of course some people never tell the true story, maybe they thundered over a pothole with 200 km/h and that caused the OIS to fail, but in the end the reports remain and there is not much anyone can do about it.

I can vouch for what everyone is saying here. I just got my P6P today and it rattles if i shake it by my ear. Definitely dont constantly try to shake it and make it rattle, thats definitely adding wear and tear, although not much, but too much can cause problems.

Question Pixel 6 Pro Camera Rattle

I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?

Mine sounds like it has a few marbles in it when I shake it. Ditto for the S22 ultra but not as noticeable. When the OIS isn't active, the lens can move. To keep it parked would require a constant current draw.

Tanquen said:
I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?
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They ALL make the ratting noise when you shake them because of the stabilizer in the camera. It's totally normal. Yours did it from the day you bought it but you probably haven't noticed until now.

It is the lens elements in the periscope assembly so it is a bit louder than normal but all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
Samsung even have a page dedicated to it. https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/...of-the-device-when-shaking-your-galaxy-phone/

MrBelter said:
all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
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This.
Now, some OIS are prone to rattle more, usually on bigger sensors/especially with a periscope lenns.
You can also shake any of your older phones (Iphones, Pixels, Samsungs, whatever). They will ALL make a rattling noise (as long as they have an OIS), if you shake them and hold it close to your ears. Most "older" phones with smaller sensors/OIS are just much more quiet in that regard.
It's absolutely normal for your Pixel (6) to have a rattling sound when you shake the phone.
Mind also, that this is a potential weak point. If you rattle the phone too hard for too long, it's possible for the OIS to break. Now that will usually never happen in a normal usecase, but I've seen several reports of motorbike owners over the years and their OIS problems, since the constant bumping (they used their phones for navigation) with high speed (100 km/h +), thundering over potholes and the likes, permanently damaged the OIS. It is, after all, a moving part. And all moving parts can break.
Now, I do not know how "hard" your rattle is. Your text said that this "developed" over the months. That should NOT happen. So they question is: Did the rattle really increase, or did you just become aware of it?
If it "changed" or "increased" it is indeed possible that something changed/broke (you can test the OIS functioning by making a simple video and seeing if the stabilization kicks in).
You can try to find out if it's the "normal" OIS rattle sound by going into the camera and forcing the different lenses (zoom in or out), whilst slightly shaking the phone. If the zoom kicks in (periscope lens) the "heavy" rattle should effectively disappear. If that is not the case, it's rather likely that something broke at your end.

Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.

Got my pixel 6 pro on 29th march I just shook it by ear and can hear a rattle

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Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.
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If the camera app is open the rattle goes away as the bias current applied to the coil is fighting movement.
Interesting tidbit when using a video camera with stabilized lens on a moving ship we have to disable stability (when camera is on tripod) or the rocking of the ship causes the stabilizer to hunt and the image itself moves slightly which looks very similar to a motion picture scene on a ship where it is intentional to give the viewer the feeling of the ship rocking. This with professional gear with large lenses, not sure if it would affect phone cams though.

Put it on 4x zoom and you wont hear the rattle.
It's normal