Question Pixel 6 Pro Camera Rattle - Google Pixel 6 Pro

I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?

Mine sounds like it has a few marbles in it when I shake it. Ditto for the S22 ultra but not as noticeable. When the OIS isn't active, the lens can move. To keep it parked would require a constant current draw.

Tanquen said:
I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?
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They ALL make the ratting noise when you shake them because of the stabilizer in the camera. It's totally normal. Yours did it from the day you bought it but you probably haven't noticed until now.

It is the lens elements in the periscope assembly so it is a bit louder than normal but all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
Samsung even have a page dedicated to it. https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/...of-the-device-when-shaking-your-galaxy-phone/

MrBelter said:
all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
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This.
Now, some OIS are prone to rattle more, usually on bigger sensors/especially with a periscope lenns.
You can also shake any of your older phones (Iphones, Pixels, Samsungs, whatever). They will ALL make a rattling noise (as long as they have an OIS), if you shake them and hold it close to your ears. Most "older" phones with smaller sensors/OIS are just much more quiet in that regard.
It's absolutely normal for your Pixel (6) to have a rattling sound when you shake the phone.
Mind also, that this is a potential weak point. If you rattle the phone too hard for too long, it's possible for the OIS to break. Now that will usually never happen in a normal usecase, but I've seen several reports of motorbike owners over the years and their OIS problems, since the constant bumping (they used their phones for navigation) with high speed (100 km/h +), thundering over potholes and the likes, permanently damaged the OIS. It is, after all, a moving part. And all moving parts can break.
Now, I do not know how "hard" your rattle is. Your text said that this "developed" over the months. That should NOT happen. So they question is: Did the rattle really increase, or did you just become aware of it?
If it "changed" or "increased" it is indeed possible that something changed/broke (you can test the OIS functioning by making a simple video and seeing if the stabilization kicks in).
You can try to find out if it's the "normal" OIS rattle sound by going into the camera and forcing the different lenses (zoom in or out), whilst slightly shaking the phone. If the zoom kicks in (periscope lens) the "heavy" rattle should effectively disappear. If that is not the case, it's rather likely that something broke at your end.

Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.

Got my pixel 6 pro on 29th march I just shook it by ear and can hear a rattle

MrBelter said:
Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.
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If the camera app is open the rattle goes away as the bias current applied to the coil is fighting movement.
Interesting tidbit when using a video camera with stabilized lens on a moving ship we have to disable stability (when camera is on tripod) or the rocking of the ship causes the stabilizer to hunt and the image itself moves slightly which looks very similar to a motion picture scene on a ship where it is intentional to give the viewer the feeling of the ship rocking. This with professional gear with large lenses, not sure if it would affect phone cams though.

Put it on 4x zoom and you wont hear the rattle.
It's normal

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Build quality?

When I tap my phone on back cover near the camera there is a distinct rattling sound. It's as if there is something loose inside the phone.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Nothing here, for me build quality is superb!
mines nearer to lower left section of back cover behind the home key but only just a minor creak.. to be expected with a plastic construction I guess (waiting for HTC to release a Legend type unibody on Desire)...
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laserman123 said:
When I tap my phone on back cover near the camera there is a distinct rattling sound. It's as if there is something loose inside the phone.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Same problem here. I'm going crazy from this sound. It seems that it is something in camera construction (maybe autofocus?) because when I take photos I get the same sound.
laserman123 said:
When I tap my phone on back cover near the camera there is a distinct rattling sound. It's as if there is something loose inside the phone.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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It's your camera.
A lot of phones that doesn't have fixed focus will have this issue. It's due to the lence moving inside its housing, creating that rattling sound.
My previous 3gs had it, my desire has it now. Nothing to worry about, but really annoying
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Same here. Unfortunately it seems that this is a problem with HTC Desire.
No, its a problem with the cameras HTC uses. My Hero had the same rattle. so did the phone a friend uses. Other brands have the rattle as well.
It's just part of the camera and autofocus. wouldn't exactly call it bad build quality as well...
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I had better stop tapping it if it's the camera! LOL
Wasn't sure if I should request exchanget but if they are all the same then no point.
Presumably it's the rattle that lets the camera zoom optically?
My N82 has this too. I'm pretty sure most autofocus camera phones will have this. I certainly don't think its a problem or a build quality issue. Does anyone NOT have that rattle when they sahke there phone upside down?
I have the rattle aswell. Oddly enough I have an LG Viewty with auto and manual focus and it doesn't have the same rattle. My N95 8GB didn't have the rattle either. My digital camera doesn't rattle either when I tap the lense. I'm guessing that it's just because the lense isn't that great.
Some devices are known to have this problem. Is is coming from the camera and is perfectly normal.
No rattles here, however frame of my desire is a bit... bent. You know, that brown part?
I pushed in so it's kinda ok now, but from some angles I can see light leaking out.
Some with trackball, the ball is a bit pushed to the right side, so light leaks out on the left side.
Kinda bummed for that, I mean this is after all quite expensive piece of technology...
EDIT: after some knocking around, there's that rattle, ARGHHHHH
It's the autofocus mech in the camera.

Cause of haptic feedback rattle found

In my particular case, the camera is the culprit. It seems that the black piece inside the metal square chassis rattles when you tap it. When the vibration motor is active, it rattles the camera inside. Just sharing since it seems this issue has popped up a couple times.
Only solution I can think is to take out the black camera piece from the chassis and maybe stuff it a little tighter or order a new replacement, but the camera could be made that way. I'll take it apart again later today to see if there is some space for small paper or something to keep it still.
I've been getting this rattle for awhile now and was wondering what it was. Between the touch screen and bootloop, this is the third strike.
I also have a sound from the sound vibration motor, but its not so much a rattle sound, more of a beeping/squealing sound. Is this normal? Its not very loud but it annoys me when typing in a quiet room. Remember I had the exact same sound on my last LG phone so maybe its an engineering thing or the brand of vibration motor.
Jaxione said:
I also have a sound from the sound vibration motor, but its not so much a rattle sound, more of a beeping/squealing sound. Is this normal? Its not very loud but it annoys me when typing in a quiet room. Remember I had the exact same sound on my last LG phone so maybe its an engineering thing or the brand of vibration motor.
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I noticed this on the forums too. I listened for this but couldn't find it. If I put my ear really close to the motor I heard a small whine, but it seemed like it was something else rather than the motor because it was constant. I will say the rattle could sound higher pitched to others depending on movement. My sound is a small rattle but I could see how maybe it could vary to a squeaking or squealing noise to some.
N12X93R said:
I noticed this on the forums too. I listened for this but couldn't find it. If I put my ear really close to the motor I heard a small whine, but it seemed like it was something else rather than the motor because it was constant. I will say the rattle could sound higher pitched to others depending on movement. My sound is a small rattle but I could see how maybe it could vary to a squeaking or squealing noise to some.
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This is how mine sounds, mic is right next to the phone so its louder than during normal use. You have this to?
https://vid.me/ptNe
N12X93R said:
In my particular case, the camera is the culprit. It seems that the black piece inside the metal square chassis rattles when you tap it. When the vibration motor is active, it rattles the camera inside. Just sharing since it seems this issue has popped up a couple times.
Only solution I can think is to take out the black camera piece from the chassis and maybe stuff it a little tighter or order a new replacement, but the camera could be made that way. I'll take it apart again later today to see if there is some space for small paper or something to keep it still.
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The camera has Optical Image Stabilization. Packing the gaps will stop this working. The rattling is just the camera moving around.
dontpannic said:
The camera has Optical Image Stabilization. Packing the gaps will stop this working. The rattling is just the camera moving around.
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Did you listen to the sound in my video? You have that to? Its mostly when using haptic feedback on home and back buttons and the third button down at the bottom

Major selfie cam distortion?

Okay, so I know no one likes the look of themselves when they catch glimpse of their face in selfie mode when you first open an app like Snapchat or front-facing cam is already activated when you go to take a pic etc, but, wow, I feel like a monster when I see how I look using the Note 7.
Arm fully stretched out and the pics/video look great, but why is it so disgustingly distorted up close? My head looks so long and weird. I know front-facing cams have always had a little distortion, but I've never experienced it this bad before (coming from 9 years of iPhones and brief flings with a Galaxy Note 1 and a LG G3).
Can anyone explain why? Will any of us have an ounce of self-esteem left after a few weeks of use?! lol
Sorry to say but you might just be ugly.
If i recall correctly there's a "beauty" setting that change the way your face looks, maybe it's on and you just don't like how it changes it ?
cadcamaro said:
Sorry to say but you might just be ugly.
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You should be a comedian dude.
Shoubyy said:
If i recall correctly there's a "beauty" setting that change the way your face looks, maybe it's on and you just don't like how it changes it ?
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Don't get me wrong, holding the phone with arm fully extended to take a selfie produces great results (with or without settings changed). I'm talking about when it's close to the face. The lens makes things look really out of shape. Never seen anything like it on a phone before.
musicconnect said:
You should be a comedian dude.
Don't get me wrong, holding the phone with arm fully extended to take a selfie produces great results (with or without settings changed). I'm talking about when it's close to the face. The lens makes things look really out of shape. Never seen anything like it on a phone before.
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I think because it is a wide angle lens so the edges of the camera lens makes you look a little weird. That's less so the case with the portion of the image that's more centered. Is the entire image distorted or only the edge portion of it?
mines super wide to what im accustomed too. Looks silly
Try to put your face in the middle of the camera, not near the edges.... Everything near the edges will look a little distorted since the camera is spheric and the image is a square, so thats just a weird effect.
When you use other apps that take 4:3 pictures you won´t notice this distortion because you are not using the edges of the camera, it will only happen in 16:9 pictures.
Basically every phone nowadays. Every one wants a wider selfie camera but don't realize wide lenses have a big byproduct. DISTORTION.
EVERYONE WANTS A WIDE ANGEL CAMARA. NOT SURE YOU KNOW EVERYONE, but if that was true then every one is an dumb *as. Wide angel is for scenery to shoot landscape not to point at once face and look like a blower fish.
My phone is useless with this wide angel camera and the idiots at Google messed up since the camera app was supposed to correct the image but doesnt work. SO we should be asking for a recall and a refund, but we are so stupid that we just deal with it. THis is a defect people. I have go pro with wide angel camera and my face doesnt look like long or fat head. COMPLAIN PEOPLE AND GET A REPLACEMENT OR A YOUR MONEY BACK> I"m a professional photographer, so I'm telling you. You all got scammed

Question Is there any moving parts in the cameras?

Hi! When I'm switching between cameras modes I can hear and feel a little noise and vibration, Anyone knows if are they part of the UI or the cameras have some moving parts?
Thanks!
Optical image stabilization. I believe one or two of it's rear cams have this.
Yup, it is indeed the image of stabilizer that is shaking around
Wow I didn't expect this sound from the stabilizer, at least now I know is not a problem
Thanks!
Also auto focus moves the lens in and out, so its a combination of both systems de-energising and the lens bouncing back to it's free floating position.
It's the OIS, every OIS rattles, the bigger the sensor/lens, the louder the noise. Watch this video for more information. Pixel 6 Pros periscope lens has a relatively "loud" rattle noise, as has the S21 Ultra as another example.
You can also try it out with previous phones: Shake it harder than you normally would, and you will be able to hear the same noise, just a tad more quiet.
-> 44:54
What's funny is that when power is applied to the OIS, such as when you open the camera app the OIS doesn't rattle as it moves to stabilise your picture. On my S21U, the OIS always was always powered so it wouldn't rattle even when the cam was off(Samsung probably did this as people were returning the phone thinking it was faulty) but this caused a wakelock and battery drain and people were complaining. On one of the last updates I had before I sold the phone, they removed this so the OIS started to rattle again when the cam wasn't being used.

Question Something loose in camera area?

First let me say that I haven't dropped my phone ,except couch to rug. This morning I was trying to rotate the display and I noticed a clicking sound in the camera area. Now when I shake it it sounds like a kids rattle. As far as I can tell the camera still works - zoom, focus, all modes. But it's really troubling that a new phone has something come loose. And more concerned that it's going to continue breaking down. NOT happy at all!
Have you never heard your camera lenses move about your phone before?
When not in use, the lenses don't have a magnetic field keeping them in position and move around freely within the module obviously. All phones do this.
There have been multiple posts in multiple threads in this section. It's normal having to do with the telescoping camera. I believe it's reported that the iPhone is like this too.
I'll add that I haven't noticed anything from mine, and I have really sensitive hearing. I've also had mine in an OtterBox Defender case from day one, so I don't know if that muffles the sound.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
First let me say that I haven't dropped my phone ,except couch to rug. This morning I was trying to rotate the display and I noticed a clicking sound in the camera area. Now when I shake it it sounds like a kids rattle. As far as I can tell the camera still works - zoom, focus, all modes. But it's really troubling that a new phone has something come loose. And more concerned that it's going to continue breaking down. NOT happy at all!
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That's the OIS. Every OIS rattles.
The bigger the sensor/OIS, the louder the rattle.
Meaning almost every modern phone has this rattle. Just try it out with your old phone, shake it whilst holding it next to your ear: You will hear the rattle.
The P6 Pros rattle is - loudness wise (vs other periscope phones) - slightly above average, but that's not concerning.
Samsung has a support page about this:
Do you hear a small noise from inside of the device when shaking your Galaxy phone?
FAQ for Samsung mobile devices. Find more about Do you hear a small noise from inside of the device when shaking your Galaxy phone? with Samsung Support
www.samsung.com
You can manually test this, by going into your camera and making sure that the tele lens is activated (zoom greater than 4/5) - if you shake it then, the sound will be massively reduced, simply because the OIS has kicked in. In it's "idle" state it creates the rattle.
Thanks all. Weird that I didn't notice it until today. I am a little less concerned now. I'll check the wife's 4a5G when she gets home. My LG G7 didn't have this rattle.
Also sorry about the dup post - didn't see the others, and I check at least once a week, but I hate this app. I had an (unofficial) app a few phones back that mimicked the website well - this one is a mess!
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Also sorry about the dup post - didn't see the others, and I check at least once a week, but I hate this app. I had an (unofficial) app a few phones back that mimicked the website well - this one is a mess!
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Yeah. I still use the new app occasionally but I do most of my XDA browsing (and especially searching) on the computer and a little in the Android Chrome app. The new forum software definitely has some nice things about it (although I can only think of one or two on the spot). I know they absolutely had to change forum software to make things easier in the background. I'm guessing that the new forum software came with a sample template app and either it's just not possible to implement things as nicely as in the old app, or they haven't been able to dedicate the time and effort to it.
Ah! Found a good search to find other posts about it, not that it matters now and it's probably not all-inclusive. Keyword: rattle.
Personally, whenever I hear about folks actually trying to reproduce the sound on any phone, I get nervous they are going to break their phones.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Personally, whenever I hear about folks actually trying to reproduce the sound on any phone, I get nervous they are going to break their phones.
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I don't want to cause any panic here, but it is definitely possible to break the OIS with prolonged, excessive shaking/vibration. It's a moving part that can only take so much. In a normal everyday-usecase, that will probably never happen, but there are a couple reports of people who use their phone on their motorcycle (various manufacturers/different phones) that have a broken OIS. Of course some people never tell the true story, maybe they thundered over a pothole with 200 km/h and that caused the OIS to fail, but in the end the reports remain and there is not much anyone can do about it.
I can vouch for what everyone is saying here. I just got my P6P today and it rattles if i shake it by my ear. Definitely dont constantly try to shake it and make it rattle, thats definitely adding wear and tear, although not much, but too much can cause problems.

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