Question Is there any moving parts in the cameras? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Hi! When I'm switching between cameras modes I can hear and feel a little noise and vibration, Anyone knows if are they part of the UI or the cameras have some moving parts?
Thanks!

Optical image stabilization. I believe one or two of it's rear cams have this.

Yup, it is indeed the image of stabilizer that is shaking around

Wow I didn't expect this sound from the stabilizer, at least now I know is not a problem
Thanks!

Also auto focus moves the lens in and out, so its a combination of both systems de-energising and the lens bouncing back to it's free floating position.

It's the OIS, every OIS rattles, the bigger the sensor/lens, the louder the noise. Watch this video for more information. Pixel 6 Pros periscope lens has a relatively "loud" rattle noise, as has the S21 Ultra as another example.
You can also try it out with previous phones: Shake it harder than you normally would, and you will be able to hear the same noise, just a tad more quiet.
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What's funny is that when power is applied to the OIS, such as when you open the camera app the OIS doesn't rattle as it moves to stabilise your picture. On my S21U, the OIS always was always powered so it wouldn't rattle even when the cam was off(Samsung probably did this as people were returning the phone thinking it was faulty) but this caused a wakelock and battery drain and people were complaining. On one of the last updates I had before I sold the phone, they removed this so the OIS started to rattle again when the cam wasn't being used.

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[Q] Freaky front camera distortion?

Is anyone else experiencing front facing camera distortion?
I'm too embarrassed to take selfies or even use snapchat because of the craziness it does to my head and face.
Try it and tell me if yours does it, put your forehead in the top of the frame, or your chin at the bottom. It totally warps your face. The camera makes my head small when it's in the middle yet makes my nose huge when it's up close. Stock camera app or third party app, it's still there. The distortions are actually ridiculous.
This is too unacceptable for a phone which was supposed to have an awesome front-facing camera. I'm probably going to take it back and wait for 64-bit phones if there is no solution for this. I'll take a low field of view versus such heavy distortion any day.
I have not experienced anything like that ever - for me it's actually been the best front facing camera I've had.
Beauty face was on by default by quite a bit which can make pictures look really weird sometimes, so maybe check that? I'm not sure what else could cause that.
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ateld said:
Is anyone else experiencing front facing camera distortion?
I'm too embarrassed to take selfies or even use snapchat because of the craziness it does to my head and face.
Try it and tell me if yours does it, put your forehead in the top of the frame, or your chin at the bottom. It totally warps your face. The camera makes my head small when it's in the middle yet makes my nose huge when it's up close. Stock camera app or third party app, it's still there. The distortions are actually ridiculous.
This is too unacceptable for a phone which was supposed to have an awesome front-facing camera. I'm probably going to take it back and wait for 64-bit phones if there is no solution for this. I'll take a low field of view versus such heavy distortion any day.
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Yup I am having the exact same issue on my Note 4. I am NOTEably disappointed
ateld said:
Is anyone else experiencing front facing camera distortion?
I'm too embarrassed to take selfies or even use snapchat because of the craziness it does to my head and face.
Try it and tell me if yours does it, put your forehead in the top of the frame, or your chin at the bottom. It totally warps your face. The camera makes my head small when it's in the middle yet makes my nose huge when it's up close. Stock camera app or third party app, it's still there. The distortions are actually ridiculous.
This is too unacceptable for a phone which was supposed to have an awesome front-facing camera. I'm probably going to take it back and wait for 64-bit phones if there is no solution for this. I'll take a low field of view versus such heavy distortion any day.
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This was a known issue in GS5, but it turned out that it wasn't an actual problem! it's a wide angle lens on the front camera that the edges distort the image a little bit. So if you use different resolution, the faces won't look distorted!! hope this helps~
Maybe ya ain't such a BEAUTY FACE after all... ?
ehkim037 said:
This was a known issue in GS5, but it turned out that it wasn't an actual problem! it's a wide angle lens on the front camera that the edges distort the image a little bit. So if you use different resolution, the faces won't look distorted!! hope this helps~
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I can't use a different resolution in apps such as Snapchat (the only time I actually take selfies). Hopefully a custom rom/app will fix this later. For certain angles the distortion is just terrible, though.
JohnnyEpic said:
Maybe ya ain't such a BEAUTY FACE after all... ?
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I have a beautiful face, the Note 4 is worse than an unflattering camera, it literally distorts the hell out of it.
I ran your picture thru my note 4
http://i.imgur.com/xlY8m3z
The face is squished on one side, and stretched on the other.
ateld said:
i can't use a different resolution in apps such as snapchat (the only time i actually take selfies). Hopefully a custom rom/app will fix this later. For certain angles the distortion is just terrible, though.
I have a beautiful face, the note 4 is worse than an unflattering camera, it literally distorts the hell out of it.
I ran your picture thru my note 4
http://i.imgur.com/xly8m3z.png
the face is squished on one side, and stretched on the other.
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????????
ateld said:
Is anyone else experiencing front facing camera distortion?
I'm too embarrassed to take selfies or even use snapchat because of the craziness it does to my head and face.
Try it and tell me if yours does it, put your forehead in the top of the frame, or your chin at the bottom. It totally warps your face. The camera makes my head small when it's in the middle yet makes my nose huge when it's up close. Stock camera app or third party app, it's still there. The distortions are actually ridiculous.
This is too unacceptable for a phone which was supposed to have an awesome front-facing camera. I'm probably going to take it back and wait for 64-bit phones if there is no solution for this. I'll take a low field of view versus such heavy distortion any day.
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I have the same problem, had a lg g3 and I am disappointed
Yeah I have this problem too. It's distorted and also very laggy. It's a very wide camera angle too. I'm hoping there's going to be a module to fix it.
The one solution that I have is to turn a filter on the front facing camera and see if that fixes it. I know you can't use those filters on Snapchat but try it and see if it's any better.
That's odd there's multiple people reporting this. When I read the OP I assumed you had a faulty front camera. My front camera is MUCH better than any other phone I've had! I didn't think even had a wide angle lense but simply offered the option for "Wide-Selfie", which is similar to Panorama on the rear camera.
Wide angle lenses all suffer from this issue. The note has a wide angle lens, the only way to avoid this is to stay away from the edges of the screen.
Note 4 camera distortion
My note 4 is experiencing the same problems, I absolutely love this phone but I am so disappointed with the front camera distortion, especially in snap chat. If anyone can help. please let me know.
Note 4 camera distortion SOLVED!
I know this thread is quite old but I wanted to share the solution I found which is simply to change the picture size or more specifically the aspect ratio. I believe the default photo size on Note 4 is 3.7 M with 16:9 aspect ratio, if you change to 4:3 aspect ratio the distortion goes away. No more cone head
megalophonix said:
I know this thread is quite old but I wanted to share the solution I found which is simply to change the picture size or more specifically the aspect ratio. I believe the default photo size on Note 4 is 3.7 M with 16:9 aspect ratio, if you change to 4:3 aspect ratio the distortion goes away. No more cone head
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! Your solution worked for me on my LG V20!!! I've been wondering about this issue for the last couple of years actually, especially when I had the S3 and S5. I didn't realize it was actual problem with Android phones until I Googled a couple days ago and found this thread! Thanks again for saving my sanity! LOL! ???

noise from shaking the phone

plz i need to know...im shaking the phone and iv got noise from the camera unit is this ok?
when i turn on the camera the noise stop !!!
i just want to know if its normal ?
It's normal. That's just a part of the camera module moving slightly.
bubu23 said:
plz i need to know...im shaking the phone and iv got noise from the camera unit is this ok?
when i turn on the camera the noise stop !!!
i just want to know if its normal ?
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It's the auto focus mechanism and that's normal.
OIS lens' have elements in them that are free moving when the voice coils are not energized. So when you shake it the rattle noise you hear is the element moving and reaching its mechanical limits. This is perfectly normal. When the camera is engaged, the voice coils are biased with a small current that keeps the element very steady. This current is modulated according to the movement to counter handheld shake. It allows longer shutter speeds and lower iso values to improve image quality at lower light levels.
OIS on cameras and lenses have settings to turn it OFF so if the camera is on a tripod focused on still object there won't be interference. I wish there was a toggle to turn it off on phone cameras too because loud music can cause the servo to go into full hysteresis (oscillation) making the video almost jelly like when a kickdrum or synthbass hits hard, etc.
Open your camera app and shake the device lightly. You'll notice OIS kicking in
That's the first thing I noticed, once I pulled my S20 Ultra out of the box
See here. IMHO the $1,700 phone (16G,256G) should have this element "parked" when not in use .

Question You hear a noise when shaking the phone?

If you hear noise when shaking the Pixel 6 Pro, it's normal. The noise is coming from the Telephoto Periscope zoom lens OIS. This happens on almost all the smartphone that uses this kind of camera lens for Telephoto.
The below video will play from the time stamp that talks about this one.
FYI... I have couple of Sony lenses for my A7 III. On those lenses I can feel something is moving when I shake the lens. Turns out this normal. This doesn't happen when the camera is turned on and I shake the lens.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/questions/sony-fe-20mm-f-1-8-g-ultra-wide-angle-prime-lens-for-e-mount-cameras/6405060/question/0bfcffef-0ee4-3f69-917e-45d2dd49a2ff
It's apparently the telephoto lens and it is normal. I've just tried mine and the noise stops as soon as I open the camera and select 4x zoom level.
krips2003 said:
If you hear noise when shaking the Pixel 6 Pro, it's normal. The noise is coming from the Telephoto Periscope zoom lens OIS. This happens on almost all the smartphone that uses this kind of camera lens for Telephoto.
The below video will play from the time stamp that talks about this one.
FYI... I have couple of Sony lenses for my A7 III. On those lenses I can feel something is moving when I shake the lens. Turns out this normal. This doesn't happen when the camera is turned on and I shake the lens.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/questions/sony-fe-20mm-f-1-8-g-ultra-wide-angle-prime-lens-for-e-mount-cameras/6405060/question/0bfcffef-0ee4-3f69-917e-45d2dd49a2ff
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Good to know that its "normal" - I already talked to the Google support, made them a video about the noise (mine is pretty loud, louder than in the video for sure) and they now want to replace my device. Mh.

Question Rather loud rattle inside the camera

Hi, I have seen some posts or articles about this but I am still uncomfortable with how my sounds. I have the pro and non pro here and the non pro is not nearly as loud and the pro seems very loud when shaken. Is this normal and is it coming from the zoom camera mostly?
initial reports indicate that its from the image stabilization module
It's the OIS. Shake any OIS phone and you will hear the rattle (excluding the Sensor-Shift style OIS modules)
Just wanted to emphasize on this, I even talked to Google about this and they confirmed it.
You can also try this out with an older phone (also with an older Pixel, like 4 XL) - EVERY OIS does this, even though periscope tele cams have a very "strong" sound to it. But if you shake another phone with a smaller sensor and with an OIS, you will also hear a (probably only very slight) rattle.
It's not the best of technology and it can actually create problems. There are enough reports of motorbike owners who have a broken OIS from all the vibration (they use the phone as navigation on an handlebar attachment). Even though it SHOULD not be a problem for the "everyday" user and you never know how these people with their reports "drive" - if they - for example - thunder over a pothole with 200 km/h - I'm surprised that their phones OIS is the only thing that's broken.

Question Pixel 6 Pro Camera Rattle

I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?
Mine sounds like it has a few marbles in it when I shake it. Ditto for the S22 ultra but not as noticeable. When the OIS isn't active, the lens can move. To keep it parked would require a constant current draw.
Tanquen said:
I've have the phone since October.
Mine made no noise from launch until today. I do not think it's to be making a clunky rattle. Not heard anything about this but found a few threads where Google just says it's normal because the camera has moving parts. I have had many cameras with moving parts that did not start to rattle after 5 or 6 months.
Just picking it up made the noise and just turning it over as well.
Anyone get a fix or replacement?
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They ALL make the ratting noise when you shake them because of the stabilizer in the camera. It's totally normal. Yours did it from the day you bought it but you probably haven't noticed until now.
It is the lens elements in the periscope assembly so it is a bit louder than normal but all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
Samsung even have a page dedicated to it. https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/...of-the-device-when-shaking-your-galaxy-phone/
MrBelter said:
all OIS lenses rattle if you shake them hard enough.
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This.
Now, some OIS are prone to rattle more, usually on bigger sensors/especially with a periscope lenns.
You can also shake any of your older phones (Iphones, Pixels, Samsungs, whatever). They will ALL make a rattling noise (as long as they have an OIS), if you shake them and hold it close to your ears. Most "older" phones with smaller sensors/OIS are just much more quiet in that regard.
It's absolutely normal for your Pixel (6) to have a rattling sound when you shake the phone.
Mind also, that this is a potential weak point. If you rattle the phone too hard for too long, it's possible for the OIS to break. Now that will usually never happen in a normal usecase, but I've seen several reports of motorbike owners over the years and their OIS problems, since the constant bumping (they used their phones for navigation) with high speed (100 km/h +), thundering over potholes and the likes, permanently damaged the OIS. It is, after all, a moving part. And all moving parts can break.
Now, I do not know how "hard" your rattle is. Your text said that this "developed" over the months. That should NOT happen. So they question is: Did the rattle really increase, or did you just become aware of it?
If it "changed" or "increased" it is indeed possible that something changed/broke (you can test the OIS functioning by making a simple video and seeing if the stabilization kicks in).
You can try to find out if it's the "normal" OIS rattle sound by going into the camera and forcing the different lenses (zoom in or out), whilst slightly shaking the phone. If the zoom kicks in (periscope lens) the "heavy" rattle should effectively disappear. If that is not the case, it's rather likely that something broke at your end.
Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.
Got my pixel 6 pro on 29th march I just shook it by ear and can hear a rattle
MrBelter said:
Thing is the rattle in mine goes away when i don't think about it and it only comes back when people remind me it rattles.
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If the camera app is open the rattle goes away as the bias current applied to the coil is fighting movement.
Interesting tidbit when using a video camera with stabilized lens on a moving ship we have to disable stability (when camera is on tripod) or the rocking of the ship causes the stabilizer to hunt and the image itself moves slightly which looks very similar to a motion picture scene on a ship where it is intentional to give the viewer the feeling of the ship rocking. This with professional gear with large lenses, not sure if it would affect phone cams though.
Put it on 4x zoom and you wont hear the rattle.
It's normal

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