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That would be awesome...the kitchen is starting to heat up!
galaxys said:
That would be awesome...the kitchen is starting to hear up!
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Damn that would almost tempt me to root again. But not for Pay and banking. We need a phone that is shipped with the bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then if you try to lock it or unroot you get a warning that your apps won't work now. Then you wake up.
bobby janow said:
Damn that would almost tempt me to root again. But not for Pay and banking. We need a phone that is shipped with the bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then if you try to lock it or unroot you get a warning that your apps won't work now. Then you wake up.
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We're all in the Matrix and in real life our phones are all rooted - that's how we got put in the Matrix to begin with.
Oh paranoid android will come to our device alright! It just won't be supported for more than like an update like always. Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.
Gytole said:
Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.
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Are you paranoid... android?
Sorry, couldn't resist, just a joke.
Gytole said:
Oh paranoid android will come to our device alright! It just won't be supported for more than like an update like always. Everytime I switch to PA they abandon it. Funniest part is they usually JUST released it to. Extremely hard pass from me, but don't let ME stop you. Just don't tell me I didn't warn you when they cease development very quickly.
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Lmao you're right though I'm not falling for the hype anymore. It seems they just do it for likes , shares and donations cuz for the like the last few years they'll announced a new version when the next Android os drops then after a build or 2 they go missing again for a whole year or 2 and leave us in the dust I'm good!
yeah i stayed away as its not guaranteed to be updated all the time
my go to custom ROMs are AOSIP or Havoc but neither are developing for P6 I think. But Proton does look like it could be good also.
Agree with the commenters here; Paranoid Android is no longer reputable (and hasn't been in many years). ProtonAOSP, Lineage, AOSIP, and a bunch of other mainstream ROMs will officially support the P6 so it is absolutely not worth messing with PA.
I'd like to add "but" the more developers working on the P6P the better for everyone, even if one group's stuff isn't up to snuff. At least, as long as they share information when appropriate, which the best developers do, in my opinion.
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I'd like to add "but" the more developers working on the P6P the better for everyone, even if one group's stuff isn't up to snuff. At least, as long as they share information when appropriate, which the best developers do, in my opinion.
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Yeah, development on the P5 was severely lacking but on the P6 and the P6P many more people have it in their hands. Unfortunately, I don't root any longer but I like to see the tweaks and new stuff the devs come up with. (I actually rooted my P5 and loaded a rom before rolling it back before I sent it in for trade-in) Specifically kernel tweaks which are usually drastically needed. Nonetheless, it's a good start as you say.
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Grack is reporting that holes in Sense have made it ridiculously easy for any app to escalate itself to root. He notes in the post that "both Google and Sprint have been very proactive in plugging this hole." He also notes that, while he will be releasing his rooter tomorrow, he won't be explaining it for a week. This makes me wonder if there's an OTA in the works that will close at least his vulnerability in the meantime.
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Grack is reporting that holes in Sense have made it ridiculously easy for any app to escalate itself to root. He notes in the post that "both Google and Sprint have been very proactive in plugging this hole." He also notes that, while he will be releasing his rooter tomorrow, he won't be explaining it for a week. This makes me wonder if there's an OTA in the works that will close at least his vulnerability in the meantime.
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wow, this sounds like a serious security flaw. i'd prefer not to see a worm or malicious 3rd party app gaining root access through poorly coded HTC sense apps.
dont think it will remove NAND protection of /system in normal android mode.
it will provide an alternate way to achieving root access in normal android mode besides loading Flipz ROM.
wonder if removing all sense related software will remove this exploit?
guess we'll be able to start testing tomorrow...
joeykrim said:
wow, this sounds serious.
wonder if removing all sense related software will remove this exploit?
guess we'll be able to start testing tomorrow...
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That's a good point, I guess AOSP 2.1 doesn't have this problem since he says its due to Sprint's additions.
Has HTC / Sprint ever been fast at rolling out an update?
I wouldn't worry, maybe an OTA months down the road, but I wouldn't count on anything within weeks...
The last Sprint phone I had was a RAZR, so I'm a bad source as to their history of timeliness; however, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a different strategy for pushing out a critical security patch than they would for a new system build.
They don't have to rewrite thousands of files against a new trunk build, bounce it between vendors, run extensive Android compatibility suites, etc. It's quite possible they have a few relatively simple changes to make to close grack's hole.
i bet they will patch it when they patch the tethering so that you have to pay for it. some time in july
there will be an update tomorrow. dont know the change log.......
so is it better to root or not to?
lawl
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Wow, you had to dig up this thread over a year old just to post "lawl". I'm proud
Usually I hate resurrected threads, but this one deserves a second look.
At this point should we continue to wait for 2.3 root, or build a time machine to prevent the update from being rolled out?
Actually, yeah, this is definitely something worth looking at.
If the exploit still exists, it might be able to get root for people on the OG Evo 2.3.
Anyone look (like teamwin) look into this yet?
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Wow, you had to dig up this thread over a year old just to post "lawl". I'm proud
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Lmao I just hit the last page button
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Usually I hate resurrected threads, but this one deserves a second look.
At this point should we continue to wait for 2.3 root, or build a time machine to prevent the update from being rolled out?
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Actually, yeah, this is definitely something worth looking at.
If the exploit still exists, it might be able to get root for people on the OG Evo 2.3.
Anyone look (like teamwin) look into this yet?
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Nope, sorry, this was right after the phone was released and long been fixed. All those with the original stock 2.3 are still SOL for now.
I started hearing about the ROM over on some Dell Streak blogs and had a thought I was worried about...but wonder if I am just being paranoid.
Where is MIUI from? Is this in some actual consumer phone that is on a major network? Has anyone actually met these people that wrote this?
I see on their website that they are working with some of the devs here and supposedly have submitted the FM app to Cyanogen:
http://www.miui.com/thread-1687-1-1.html (Not much more than that page unless you can read Chinese which I cannot.)
I guess my paranoia sets in when I see things come out like this fully baked and being adopted blindly by the masses. We saw games just last year that were doing random calls and that was from a site people trusted.
Sorry if this seems tinfoil hatty, but really what better way to sink a trojan/backdoor into a ton of phones than to release a super cool looking bit of software that no-one is really going to dig through and vette? So my question is do people here really trust this software? Have the Dev's torn it apart enough to feel they know everything in it?
It's an AOSP-based ROM developed by some Chinese folks to make their phones into KIRF iPhones.
I at one point thought the same thing about it. I thought about where it came from, and all the jazz with the same paranoid mindset. Then I thought about it more, and realized I wouldn't be doing anything on my phone that would be of any interest to anyone. I'm sure its probably legit. There are other poeple that have had to go through and port it to English and more fun stuff. I would assume they have taken a decent look at it.
Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
Yes, you're being a bit "tinfoil hatty." Google MIUI dev and you'll see the english forum from xda members that are dedicated to this rom's development. I'm sure that they have broken down most of the rom and you can get more information there.
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But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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I how you' re trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny. Here's a newsflash, there are android geeks, honest ones even, all over the world!!
Really, if the Chinese were trying to gather information via some device that millions upon millions of Americans would use (and no, that would not be the MIUI on Android), they would probably tap the ipod, iphone, and ipad - all of which are made in China.
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Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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ROFLMAO !
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Hello fellow XDA Member!
This thread will serve as a reminder of why we decided to keep our phone stock. Tell us your reason!
So, I made a promise to myself. I will keep my bootloader locked, phone unrooted, and stay away from any real customization. I have tried many ROMs, kernels, etc and I have yet to find a better configuration than stock.
Feels free to comment if you believe aftermarket firmware is better than what Google tested and approved to be used on our device.
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Lol, no.
Are you trying to create a thread where people just argue?
Its much easier to troll with a stock phone? This is like going on a car website to ask who likes riding bicycles.
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Stock ROMs do not feel as sluggish because they are odexed.
Custom kernels make your device act up sooner or later. That's the reason why those threads have MILLIONS of views and thousands of comments. Troubleshooting never ends. Besides, if these kernels were really making an improvement on user experience, Google would hire these people, right?
Custom ROMs, is that extra navigation button or battery percentage worth all the time you will spend flashing new versions, reading XDA, helping other members troubleshoot? I have always noticed that person A creates a ROM, person B is the #1 fanboy which spends all day in the thread answering all kinds of questions and dismisses any reports of problems with his Master's creation. Person A barely communicates with person B.
I could list more...
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Its like buying a Ferrari and never going over 30.
Sure it looks nice and drives nice, but there's so much more potential.
I feel bad for your phone, trapped in a cage never to realise its full potential.
RIP soldiers gnex.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
Hello fellow XDA Member!
This thread will serve as a reminder of why we decided to keep our phone stock. Tell us your reason!
So, I made a promise to myself. I will keep my bootloader locked, phone unrooted, and stay away from any real customization. I have tried many ROMs, kernels, etc and I have yet to find a better configuration than stock.
Feels free to comment if you believe aftermarket firmware is better than what Google tested and approved to be used on our device.
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stock android, google tested and approved for you to use http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list
thank you OP for ignorantly venting your personal issues with custom roms on xda. No, custom roms likely are not for you since you are looking for stability and out of the box usage. Custom roms are for those who are looking to learn and develop and push the boundaries of our devices. As with any rom here YMMV.
This will undoubtedly go nowhere. The reason why we are here is to improve our phones and our experience with our device. So you will get a lot of members that will not take kindly to this, so I am going to close it before it gets to that point. Thank you for understanding. :highfive:
I'm hoping that someone wants to take up the task of porting AOSPA 4.0+ from the GSM One to us Verizon variants.
Link to OG thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2315236
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I'm hoping that someone wants to take up the task of porting AOSPA 4.0+ from the GSM One to us Verizon variants.
Link to OG thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2315236
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Download the zip. Unpack it. Delete the getprop portion of the updaterscript. Flash it and see what happens. The mount points match our vzw...should work.
I could try doing it, I used to back in the samsung stratosphere days. lol
Don't expect anything special.
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I'm hoping that someone wants to take up the task of porting AOSPA 4.0+ from the GSM One to us Verizon variants.
Link to OG thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2315236
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I'm surprised that you haven't tried it yourself. You've been in the community longer than many of us, and have a pretty large collection of devices it seems. Not trying to be sarcastic at all. Just figured you might try porting it yourself, for your use; and if it rocks you could always share it with us. Good luck! You can do it!!:good:
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I'm surprised that you haven't tried it yourself. You've been in the community longer than many of us, and have a pretty large collection of devices it seems. Not trying to be sarcastic at all. Just figured you might try porting it yourself, for your use; and if it rocks you could always share it with us. Good luck! You can do it!!:good:
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If it was an Xperia Play, it would have been ported in an instant.
Still learning quite a bit and have given it a few attempts.
So far, I can boot it up and everything else works fine, but can't get a signal.
I also don't have the same amount of free time I used to
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I've got a couple builds of this here somewhere.
If I can find them and they run like I remember, maybe I will post one up.
I just recall building it and thinking, this sure is pretty vanilla for PA.
In other words, it's pretty basic stock Kitkat right now, with very few extras.
But like I said, if I can find it and it runs like I remember, maybe I will post it up, or maybe it's time I make a fresh build.
Will have to see what kind of time I have...lot going on right now or I would say I will post for sure.
I've also got an IOAP build I was considering posting if there is interest in such a thing...
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I've got a couple builds of this here somewhere.
If I can find them and they run like I remember, maybe I will post one up.
I just recall building it and thinking, this sure is pretty vanilla for PA.
In other words, it's pretty basic stock Kitkat right now, with very few extras.
But like I said, if I can find it and it runs like I remember, maybe I will post it up, or maybe it's time I make a fresh build.
Will have to see what kind of time I have...lot going on right now or I would say I will post for sure.
I've also got an IOAP build I was considering posting if there is interest in such a thing..
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Count me in as interested! That UI looks cool. If you need anyone to test for you, count me in. I know you have alot going on, so if I can help, let me know.
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Count me in as interested! That UI looks cool. If you need anyone to test for you, count me in. I know you have alot going on, so if I can help, let me know.
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That's already being taken care of.
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Well, the title says it all. (well, most of it)
Do you think our phone can handle the new android "L" Update? I mean we know the basic sacrifices we have to take to have a newer OS than ICS: No bluetooth head set support...also our CPU doesn't support NEON instructions. Aside from that it runs KitKat amazingly well! I mean its really smooth! I can remember when we first got KitKat on our Cappi. @bubor Compiled Omni ROM 4.4.1. It was so cool but so unstable! But then Came along android 4.4.2 and bubor fixed the tegra 2 support issue.After that leap of faith we now have a very very smooth,stable,and fast KitKat! So enough of me ranting on and on about how far and good our phone is, do you think theres any life and if its worth it to port 'L" when it debuts? Or will the new android "L" 5.0 have new libs so no more ROMs?
Also if you want the new android "L" 5.0 apps see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796019
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Based on what we know now, I'd say the Cappy will run L. Don't have to worry about system libs as those are compiled from source with the instructions you specify. Main question is what changes in SurfaceFlinger / MediaServer, but based on what we know I don't think there'd be problems. Screencasting might not work, but that's not a big problem I think.
Little nitpick: Those are NEON instructions, not threads.
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Little nitpick: Those are NEON instructions, not threads.
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Thanks changed it
May Take time.
I would love nothing more than to have the latest crispiest android.
but honestly i think that .. THAT will require more developers for our phone.. i mean while i agree that we have a decen no of custom roms.
but i still think that all the pressure is mainly on bubor ... if only we could have more people.
Also i still think that development for the 4.4.x should finish before we continue on to higher upgrades.
there are still alot of bugs and we could certainly use a lil more people contributing to help out...
While i love the idea of a new upgrade i am honestly VERY VERY Satisfied with kitkat it looks good and feels smoother that ever.
while implementation of ART may help . . i think that we have already maxed out our device
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I would love nothing more than to have the latest crispiest android.
but honestly i think that .. THAT will require more developers for our phone.. i mean while i agree that we have a decen no of custom roms.
but i still think that all the pressure is mainly on bubor ... if only we could have more people.
Also i still think that development for the 4.4.x should finish before we continue on to higher upgrades.
there are still alot of bugs and we could certainly use a lil more people contributing to help out...
While i love the idea of a new upgrade i am honestly VERY VERY Satisfied with kitkat it looks good and feels smoother that ever.
while implementation of ART may help . . i think that we have already maxed out our device
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Very true, I'm loving the KitKat Roms for our Cappy Glide. I'm personally using ART now with the latest CM 4.4.4 Rom Bubor makes. I'm very thankful that Bubor puts so much work into this old but still useful phone. I'm wanting to become more involved in helping where I can here. I can only do thorough testing though, I don't know how to develop roms or apps... yet. Maybe someday I'll learn.