I started hearing about the ROM over on some Dell Streak blogs and had a thought I was worried about...but wonder if I am just being paranoid.
Where is MIUI from? Is this in some actual consumer phone that is on a major network? Has anyone actually met these people that wrote this?
I see on their website that they are working with some of the devs here and supposedly have submitted the FM app to Cyanogen:
http://www.miui.com/thread-1687-1-1.html (Not much more than that page unless you can read Chinese which I cannot.)
I guess my paranoia sets in when I see things come out like this fully baked and being adopted blindly by the masses. We saw games just last year that were doing random calls and that was from a site people trusted.
Sorry if this seems tinfoil hatty, but really what better way to sink a trojan/backdoor into a ton of phones than to release a super cool looking bit of software that no-one is really going to dig through and vette? So my question is do people here really trust this software? Have the Dev's torn it apart enough to feel they know everything in it?
It's an AOSP-based ROM developed by some Chinese folks to make their phones into KIRF iPhones.
I at one point thought the same thing about it. I thought about where it came from, and all the jazz with the same paranoid mindset. Then I thought about it more, and realized I wouldn't be doing anything on my phone that would be of any interest to anyone. I'm sure its probably legit. There are other poeple that have had to go through and port it to English and more fun stuff. I would assume they have taken a decent look at it.
Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
Yes, you're being a bit "tinfoil hatty." Google MIUI dev and you'll see the english forum from xda members that are dedicated to this rom's development. I'm sure that they have broken down most of the rom and you can get more information there.
phatmanxxl said:
But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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I how you' re trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny. Here's a newsflash, there are android geeks, honest ones even, all over the world!!
Really, if the Chinese were trying to gather information via some device that millions upon millions of Americans would use (and no, that would not be the MIUI on Android), they would probably tap the ipod, iphone, and ipad - all of which are made in China.
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phatmanxxl said:
Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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ROFLMAO !
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Hi there,
Just a thought I had today:
Since the ROM chefs are working so hard and getting little donations, and since we already come to a stage where there are several stable ROMs out there, maybe it is the time to a new era - a full personalized ROM.
In my mind, a user decides based on his understanding what he wants: Cingular settings or Orange UK, Adobe Reader LE vs. Clearview, HTC X button, Fast or Large Memory, black, blue or white skin, their own splash screen etc. as long as these are free apps.
Then a ROM Chef cooks for him exactly what he asks for. User pays for that service (note: for the service, not for the ROM) 10-15 $ or so and everyone's happy. ROM Masters can cook several a day making few thousands of $$$ a month, users will have their own favourable version, XDA will be as busy as a market in a rush hour and everyone will be happy.
Comments are welcome...
IMHO, this is a bad idea. The chefs aren't doing this to make money. They do it as a hobby or something they love doing, and paying for services goes against what XDA was built around. Donations are one thing, but this shouldn't be about money.
Besides, the way most are building their ROMs currently, with a base ROM and then cabs to personalize, should suffice for those users who aren't up to cooking their own.
MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.
unusedusername said:
MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.
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xda-dev did show up on the pirate radar and was asked to remove the ROM's on the FTP... so we do have to be carefull with what we are 'doing'
In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335
I think the bigger problem would be support - once a user pays for a service he will expect and demand support for all the small problems inherent in the native Rom.
I do like the idea of the build your own application posted by Percz.
Couldn't agree more, good thought but bad idea.
In the end don't be a cheap ass, if you are using someones ROM kick them back a few bucks for some brew and don't be a cheap ass. They may do it not expecting something but if its good work you'll be using for awhile buy the guy a beer. Every little bit helps.
Percz said:
In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335
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Now I would be intrested in an application like that. I'd love to be able to cook a ROM with just the apps I want.
Not that I'm a fan of it but i was wondering since android can run on the iphone is it possible to put IOS on the EVO.
No IOS is not open source
Yeah, this isn't a netbook you're talking about. You can't just put an Apple OS on it all willy-nilly.
Seriously, though, I'd bet the trouble would be nigh-insurmountable based on hardware differences. They're using their own CPU in the iPhone, for one, and beyond that I bet they're working pretty strongly to keep iOS from ever being ported like OS X is.
How dare you!!!!! Off with his head!!!
Ha jk
Sent from my EVO, the true iPhone killer!
No...
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I'm pretty sure he gets the idea by now...
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^hahahahaha
more importantly
why would you wanna?
lol this is the second related thread to apple i've seen in the last 24 hours...lol
This thread made me sick to my tummy just a little bit!
the base for iOS is open(ish) source. But to my knowledge no one has tried to take Darwin down to the mobile level other than apple with iOS. In theory it should be able to be done, but that would be the only way to get a port. Hope your up for a challenge.
chrishornet said:
Not that I'm a fan of it but i was wondering since android can run on the iphone is it possible to put IOS on the EVO.
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c'mon guys - outside of the poor taste it leaves in our mouths, the question is legit.
OP-It's highly doubtful that true iOS4 will ever be ported to android - too many challenges. The closest you might get is for a dev to build a theme that makes android look and act like iOS4 on the surface, but it would still be android.
oh yeah - and no iphone app store. ever.
Guys it was just a question so relax and stop the flaming. It probably can be done but there's too much work involved and it would also be illegal. Besides even if you were able to do it the App Store wouldn't allow your phone access so the only way to install apps would be through Installous (cracked apps) which is also illegal.
Android >>>>> apple
Android will be ported because it can and it has high enough demand..
IOS isn't ported because well... No demand <.<
I Never Really Liked Apple Anyway, My Mother Always Had A Problem With Me Eating Fruits Lol
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Not that I'm a fan of it but i was wondering since android can run on the iphone is it possible to put IOS on the EVO.
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........whyyyyyy
Plain and simple. It won't. Hardware is to different and it closed source. But if you were looking for ios'ish look for the evo check out miui. People argue both ways saying it is and isn't close to ios but from what I see (since I'm a daily user) its pretty damn close. Have fun
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You can but its illegal but sure no one is willing to plus you can get flamed
sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
In MIX10 we all noticed that Joe Belfiore can directly output the display of his Samsung WP7 Developer prototype phone onto the big screen.
You may search for the video demo "Joe Belfiore Demos Windows Phone 7" in Google.
I searched on internet and received not many info on this. So I directly asked him on twitter @joebelfiore and he replied me in message.
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This img is from my thread I posted just now on Chinese forum...I am a Chinese...
If anyone like me want to give presentations just as Joe did with his WP7 phone, I think the hope is not shinny~May rather buy a Nokia N8 or even Nokia 5800.
Some android devices like HTC Incredible and Samsung Galaxy S support tv out,too.
Just a bit disappointed~I used to hope to introduce WP7 devices to the company I serve as work phones. But it doesn't support VPN, and has no tv out, not to mention the NFC. You can't even copy the office file directly to your Phone without unlocking it. Maybe to choose android the other day, although it's Siemens here...
P.S If this post is supposed to cause any trouble because I mentioned the direct message from Mr. Joe Belfiore or the name of Siemens, just let me know and I will delete this right away. No means to make trouble.
----Edit----
Just like PG2G said on the 4th floor, firstly I am happy to see Joe answered my question directly without hiding something because people in his position usually don't do that. I am still a fan of Windows Phone 7 cuz I really don't want to show a game machine desktop (android and iOS) on the projector of a serious meeting room.
EDIT: nevermind
Lol... I'm sure another social network will make the cut, though.
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While you didn't get the answer you'd ask for, it is pretty cool that someone in his position is actually listening to and answering people's questions.
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While you didn't get the answer you'd ask for, it is pretty cool that someone in his position is actually listening to and answering people's questions.
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Yeah, that's also what I think. People in his position hardly give feedback to normal people like you and me. So it's really nice of him to do so.
And that's why I still haven't give up the WP7 system, since I think letting all people in the meeting room to see my android desktop which looks like a game machine is not really a cool stuff~~~
Hello fellow XDA Member!
This thread will serve as a reminder of why we decided to keep our phone stock. Tell us your reason!
So, I made a promise to myself. I will keep my bootloader locked, phone unrooted, and stay away from any real customization. I have tried many ROMs, kernels, etc and I have yet to find a better configuration than stock.
Feels free to comment if you believe aftermarket firmware is better than what Google tested and approved to be used on our device.
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Lol, no.
Are you trying to create a thread where people just argue?
Its much easier to troll with a stock phone? This is like going on a car website to ask who likes riding bicycles.
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Stock ROMs do not feel as sluggish because they are odexed.
Custom kernels make your device act up sooner or later. That's the reason why those threads have MILLIONS of views and thousands of comments. Troubleshooting never ends. Besides, if these kernels were really making an improvement on user experience, Google would hire these people, right?
Custom ROMs, is that extra navigation button or battery percentage worth all the time you will spend flashing new versions, reading XDA, helping other members troubleshoot? I have always noticed that person A creates a ROM, person B is the #1 fanboy which spends all day in the thread answering all kinds of questions and dismisses any reports of problems with his Master's creation. Person A barely communicates with person B.
I could list more...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Its like buying a Ferrari and never going over 30.
Sure it looks nice and drives nice, but there's so much more potential.
I feel bad for your phone, trapped in a cage never to realise its full potential.
RIP soldiers gnex.
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What the
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Soldier 2.0 said:
Hello fellow XDA Member!
This thread will serve as a reminder of why we decided to keep our phone stock. Tell us your reason!
So, I made a promise to myself. I will keep my bootloader locked, phone unrooted, and stay away from any real customization. I have tried many ROMs, kernels, etc and I have yet to find a better configuration than stock.
Feels free to comment if you believe aftermarket firmware is better than what Google tested and approved to be used on our device.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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stock android, google tested and approved for you to use http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list
thank you OP for ignorantly venting your personal issues with custom roms on xda. No, custom roms likely are not for you since you are looking for stability and out of the box usage. Custom roms are for those who are looking to learn and develop and push the boundaries of our devices. As with any rom here YMMV.
This will undoubtedly go nowhere. The reason why we are here is to improve our phones and our experience with our device. So you will get a lot of members that will not take kindly to this, so I am going to close it before it gets to that point. Thank you for understanding. :highfive:
As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho
Cool story bro
EDIT: But seriously, WHY do you hate the phone? I have a One X, I hate the way its designed and the battery life. I don't like the phone but atleast I know WHY I don't like the phone.
Maybe the reasons you don't like it can be fixed with a better ROM or something?
Stu1973 said:
As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho
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I would - I moved mine on to my wife who isn't fussed about custom/boot images/s-off/super-cid/flashing radios etc
I'm back using my Sensation and that's fancy enough for me for now. For me its better to have my modding freedom back.
And yeah - there is something to be said for saving thr £500 a high end phone costs. The functionality of a Desire C say is really the same at a lot less.
Agree wish I still had my Desire instead of all the risky business that is installing roms.
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As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho
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What a useful thread you've made.
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No one asked you to answer did they
I wonder how many other "usefull" posts there are
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No one asked you to answer did they
I wonder how many other "usefull" posts there are
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Stu, no offence but just ignore trolls.
By saying "I wonder how many other "useful" (ONE L!) posts there are"
This is just going to make people not want to help you. Considering XDA is one of the most useful, if not THE most useful forum for not only Android but devices such as the Raspberry Pi.
If you don't find this forum useful, why come here and tell all us useless users that you "Thinking of giving it back". Why do we need to know that?
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Stu, no offence but just ignore trolls.
By saying "I wonder how many other "useful" (ONE L!) posts there are"
This is just going to make people not want to help you. Considering XDA is one of the most useful, if not THE most useful forum for not only Android but devices such as the Raspberry Pi.
If you don't find this forum useful, why come here and tell all us useless users that you "Thinking of giving it back". Why do we need to know that?
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Ignore trolls? The forum is messy enough but he decided to start a new thread to tell everyone that the phone is **** and he's giving it back. What is the purpose of the thread? I know i should of just ignored it but its [email protected]!king irritating. Wants locking.
no one wants to know that you want to give the phone back tell it someone in your family or so...but that's really the MOST useless thread here on xda...REALLY ...why the f*ck do you open such a thread, but nobody wants to know that? ....like cjm1979 said...NO purpose in open this thread...
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