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How in the heck do I get rid of the google play services drain...The dang thing is the highest on my device followed by android system...Please help
amirage said:
Hi,
How in the heck do I get rid of the google play services drain...The dang thing is the highest on my device followed by android system...Please help
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It's not the play services process that does the draining, but another app that uses the service. It's simply a vehicle. With well behaved apps, you'd rarely see play services in your battery hog list. You can begin by disabling Play Store's app auto-updating.
quangtran1 said:
It's not the play services process that does the draining, but another app that uses the service. It's simply a vehicle. With well behaved apps, you'd rarely see play services in your battery hog list. You can begin by disabling Play Store's app auto-updating.
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I have done it but I'm really not so hopeful. I don't know if its the auto-update feature that's hogging the battery or if it has anything to do with the google now feature. Apparently google play services is high on the list of activities that use the location services.
I'm really not in a mood to factory reset but then I'm not hopeful that this would really solve the matter...The phone was setup from scratch and all the apps were downloaded fresh... Besides, I don't have that many apps either just the usual gmail, google maps, chrome, Facebook, WhatsApp ...I have disabled movies, games, play stand and other rubbish apps...Can u please share your experience with the battery? What's ur setup? Do you have the google now feature enabled? How do I disable it?
amirage said:
I have done it but I'm really not so hopeful. I don't know if its the auto-update feature that's hogging the battery or if it has anything to do with the google now feature. Apparently google play services is high on the list of activities that use the location services.
I'm really not in a mood to factory reset but then I'm not hopeful that this would really solve the matter...The phone was setup from scratch and all the apps were downloaded fresh... Besides, I don't have that many apps either just the usual gmail, google maps, chrome, Facebook, WhatsApp ...I have disabled movies, games, play stand and other rubbish apps...Can u please share your experience with the battery? What's ur setup? Do you have the google now feature enabled? How do I disable it?
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First off, I use the Dirty Unicorns ROM, but it shouldn't make a difference. Play services never bothered stock ROM either. I have 156 apps. Location, Bluetooth, WiFi are all enabled. I have 7 smart watches that are configured as well. NFC is the only sensor I disabled. I sync 4 mail accounts, 7 Google calendars, along with your FB, Twitter, Instagram crap. OK Google is always on. You can see in the screenshot that Play Services isn't on my list. I even use Gravity Screen that utilizes the gyro sensor instead of the built-in gestures. I like it better. I admit, my SOT is only about 4 hours a day on average, but my battery is off the charger for 26 hours. I do freeze marketing apps that came with the Pixel, unneeded keyboards, Verizon stuff (but leave the My Verizon app on though). I charge the phone in the car at 6:30am daily as I drive an hour and 20 minutes to work. If I were you, first, I would delete app cache in Settings/Storage. Then I would freeze a few apps at a time and narrow down your potential battery hogs.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/586d32d248c9c/Screenshot_20170104-115902.png?
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quangtran1 said:
First off, I use the Dirty Unicorns ROM, but it shouldn't make a difference. Play services never bothered stock ROM either. I have 156 apps. Location, Bluetooth, WiFi are all enabled. I have 7 smart watches that are configured as well. NFC is the only sensor I disabled. I sync 4 mail accounts, 7 Google calendars, along with your FB, Twitter, Instagram crap. OK Google is always on. You can see in the screenshot that Play Services isn't on my list. I even use Gravity Screen that utilizes the gyro sensor instead of the built-in gestures. I like it better. I admit, my SOT is only about 4 hours a day on average, but my battery is off the charger for 26 hours. I do freeze marketing apps that came with the Pixel, unneeded keyboards, Verizon stuff (but leave the My Verizon app on though). I charge the phone in the car at 6:30am daily as I drive an hour and 20 minutes to work. If I were you, first, I would delete app cache in Settings/Storage. Then I would freeze a few apps at a time and narrow down your potential battery hogs.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/586d32d248c9c/Screenshot_20170104-115902.png?
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/586d33248b82f/Screenshot_20170104-120311.png?
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Thanks for the info...woah...you have a whole of lot of things going for and I must say you are really using your phone's potential...The only issue with the suggestion is that I need to unlock the boot loader and root the device..it's so very new that I'd like to have it running like this for a while till I get bored of the stock experience...but yes I'll surely try out all the suggestions u have made once I root.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
I have a regular Pixel, and Google Play Services is constantly at the top of my list. I'm often around a computer, so my phone primarily spends its time in standby or being used for calls. Even the times when I use the screen for hours, Google Play Services still reports as using far more battery than anything else.
EDIT: After using Tasker and Toggle Network Type 5.0 to switch to WCDMA only when my phone is in standby, Phone idle has went to the top of the list and Google Play services usage has went down significantly to second on the list.
amirage said:
I don't know if its the auto-update feature that's hogging the battery or if it has anything to do with the google now feature.
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I have shut off Google Play auto-update and the Google feed. It's possible auto-update could be more aggressive than it used to be, but my previous phone with a smaller battery still could use about 1/3 the standby battery percentage as the Pixel, and I had auto-update over wifi on with that phone. I can't say how much affect turning off the feed had on battery life, but Google Play Services remains at the top of my list with it off. I haven't gotten around to seeing if something like Wakelock Detector could give me some clue about what is going on with my phone, but with auto-update and the Google feed off my battery usage is constantly being reported as primarily coming from Google Play Services.
I'm really not in a mood to factory reset but then I'm not hopeful that this would really solve the matter.
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The only suggestion so far that I haven't tested would be the idea about installed apps using Google Play Services, because a reset alone certainly did not solve my battery usage when I reinstalled my usual apps. It looks like I put a few apps on the new phone that I hadn't used on my previous phone, and I never tracked the battery usage without additional apps installed. I may try resetting and see if I get different behavior by installing apps over time, so I can check for changes in Google Play Services usage as apps are added.
amirage said:
Thanks for the info...woah...you have a whole of lot of things going for and I must say you are really using your phone's potential...The only issue with the suggestion is that I need to unlock the boot loader and root the device..it's so very new that I'd like to have it running like this for a while till I get bored of the stock experience...but yes I'll surely try out all the suggestions u have made once I root.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Some suggestions provided here.
https://www.androidpit.com/google-play-services-what-is-it-and-what-is-it-for
The disable Auto-sync data suggestion from the link might save some battery, yet I've always turned that off, so it's not the cause of the issues on my phone. My prior Android phone had a short issue with Google Play burning through battery that was eventually fixed by an update, but I'm not sure what good it would do to uninstall Google Play Services updates, since all three OS versions have had the same issue. It's just silly that Google Play Services reports using more power than the screen, which is probably why I thought the iPhone 7 got a lot better battery life than the Pixel. Unfortunately Apple only provides Mac users a way to know notifications have been received without touching an iPhone, so hopefully I can eventually track down the Android battery usage to an app or some other similarly easy to correct problem. At this point I only have 5 apps from the Play Store installed, although it looks like safe mode also shuts off some of the default apps like Keep.
My phone reported about 200 mAh from Google Services while in safe mode over the past day, which is also labeled Google Play services when not in safe mode. The Pixel was mostly just idle with the screen off and not doing anything, so that may be around the minimum usage per day I can reasonably expect from Google Play services on the standard Pixel.
Edit: I flashed the January update and allowed the wipe. After shutting off most of the options for Google, like Google Assistant, the phone reported nearly 200 mAh from Google Play services in a day, so that seems around the minimum I can get by using the options the OS provides.
I seriously think it's a rogue app...I did a factory reset and so far it's been good.
amirage said:
I seriously think it's a rogue app...I did a factory reset and so far it's been good.
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Good for you. Play services doesn't drain battery on its own. Some app has to misbehave or demand exclusive control of the play store app to cause play services to run wild.
hi friends
My oneplus 9 pro with11.2.3.3 During the night(8 hours) my phone consumes 15-20% battery, I bought it for a week and it is like this every night.
Anyone same problem?
rapboy91 said:
hi friends
My oneplus 9 pro with11.2.3.3 During the night(8 hours) my phone consumes 15-20% battery, I bought it for a week and it is like this every night.
Anyone same problem?
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check detailed battery consumption you should be able to tell which app is draining your battery
yosry said:
check detailed battery consumption you should be able to tell which app is draining your battery
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I can't understand because I only see applications that have consumed battery while using the phone.
rapboy91 said:
I can't understand because I only see applications that have consumed battery while using the phone.
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i will try to simplify it to you :
you will have to full charge your phone to 100% before going to sleep and just remove it from the charger just before sleeping and once you weak up go to battery usage and you can tell immediately what is draining your battery
you can also that ram boost is turned on
and turn off always on ambient display
hope this helps
Good idea thank you.
Ram boost is on
I wiil try to turn off Aod.
Have you got AOD enabled? I was getting the same usage with it enabled, turned it off cos it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Install betterbatterystats, give it required permissions via ADB and check what apps keep waking the phone up during night when you wake up. I see you are using telegram, I've seen someone having problems with it in terms of battery drain, try to set telegram to optimize battery drain (not intelligent), see if that helps.
DashDashCZ said:
Install betterbatterystats, give it required permissions via ADB and check what apps keep waking the phone up during night when you wake up. I see you are using telegram, I've seen someone having problems with it in terms of battery drain, try to set telegram to optimize battery drain (not intelligent), see if that helps.
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Ok I will try it I just looked at telegram usage in the background and it is very high
Is normal this whatsapp background use?
rapboy91 said:
Ok I will try it I just looked at telegram usage in the background and it is very high
Is normal this whatsapp background use?
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Definitely not, optimize it or intelligent. Here's mine.
DashDashCZ said:
Definitely not, optimize it or intelligent. Here's mine. View attachment 5290381
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but so the notifications don't arrive instantly or am I wrong?
rapboy91 said:
but so the notifications don't arrive instantly or am I wrong?
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I mainly use whatsapp for messaging, have it on intelligent control as you can see and the messages aren't delayed.
Ditch Whatscrap, FB, and such malware apps.
Turn off all power management as it causes all kinds of issues.
Cloud apps are bandwidth and battery horrors.
Goggle Firebase, disable as well as Transport.
Playstore disable until needed.
Google Play Services is a known battery hog, I keep it disabled 99% of the time.
On my Note 10+ SOT usage is about 9%@ hour browsing on Brave.
Less than 1%@hr with AOD always on.
Less than .5%@hr sleeping with AOD touch to view.
I'm running Pie on a stock AT&T N10+ using a package blocker and Karma Firewall to lock it down. It's heavily reconfigured.
It was a twitchy, hot running bandwidth eating battery hog.
Now it's a very stable, fast, cooling running dream device...
hell yeah
blackhawk said:
Ditch Whatscrap, FB, and such malware apps.
Turn off all power management as it causes all kinds of issues.
Cloud apps are bandwidth and battery horrors.
Goggle Firebase, disable as well as Transport.
Playstore disable until needed.
Google Play Services is a known battery hog, I keep it disabled 99% of the time.
On my Note 10+ SOT usage is about 9%@ hour browsing on Brave.
Less than 1%@hr with AOD always on.
Less than .5%@hr sleeping with AOD touch to view.
I'm running Pie on a stock AT&T N10+ using a package blocker and Karma Firewall to lock it down. It's heavily reconfigured.
It was a twitchy, hot running bandwidth eating battery hog.
Now it's a very stable, fast, cooling running dream device...
hell yeah
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Oh man, that's some hate! I have pretty similar battery performance without disabling anything and using WA Btw this is a OnePlus 9 Pro forum, not note 10+ forum.
DashDashCZ said:
Oh man, that's some hate! I have pretty similar battery performance without disabling anything and using WA Btw this is a OnePlus 9 Pro forum, not note 10+ forum.
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Not hate, awareness.
Cross platform to find new answers and ways.
If it works right out of the box... all the better
is there any way to find out (debug) which app is causing google play services to drain battery in background ?
apart from trial and error of course ?
I got 1-2%/hour drain from this thing alone. even when deep sleep is enabled
disabled everything possible from location access
This also interests me. The battery is unbelievably bad no matter what I do.
this is my usage today. tried taking out truecaller. same drain.
no way to diagnose this? even tried betterbatterystats
nothing unusual there
anyone can post google play services drain on s22 exynos?
Only by rooting the phone can you get the play services to doze. This would take care of the issue.
strange. usually this is a very low percentage/day for my apps.
dont know what triggers it to consume this amount of resources on the s22
try resetting cache/data / wiped cache partition , nothing seems to work
I definitely ordered the snapdragon version from wondamobile....
gsam battery monitor with better battery stats permission given will give some information at least about Play Services wakelocks
That is killing my battery also. But I dont want to root. any other fix ?
Best fix in long term would be an OTA update I think. Providing Samsung is working on that
I have the same problem after using the Universal Android Debloater recommended list.
Hello guys,
i've reinstalled from scratch my s22 to try to boost my battery performance. Installed the last update and all the apps that i need. First battery cycle 6 hours and half of SOT yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
But than comes the crappy part :/ after a full charge from zero with phone in shut down mode i've turned on it and.... almost 4 hours of sot.
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Anyone have found the same problem?!?
How can it be possible to go from 6.30 to 4 with the same type of use?!?
DAMN S22!!!
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
blackhawk said:
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
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I just turned off Adaptive Battery and now the phone is just flying through the apps. Yes, Twitter and co. can still have the occasional hick-up, but it is now significantly improved. I was about to sell the Ultra and already got an iPhone 13 Pro Max, but this is quite literally a game changer. Thank you, my man. Time to get the iPhone back to the store.
I haven't heard of the Brave issue. It doesn't seem to run in the background on my phone. And I don't know why it would if Chrome doesn't. Can you point me to a thread or something about Brave? I use it on all my PCs everyday and quite like it. And on my Kindle Fire, where running background apps are usually very apparent. Have I just not noticed on my phone for some reason?
blackhawk said:
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
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cuvtixo said:
I haven't heard of the Brave issue. It doesn't seem to run in the background on my phone. And I don't know why it would if Chrome doesn't. Can you point me to a thread or something about Brave? I use it on all my PCs everyday and quite like it. And on my Kindle Fire, where running background apps are usually very apparent. Have I just not noticed on my phone for some reason?
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It does on my Note 10+/Pie. I can see it doing it on the firewall. So I close it out when not using it. May be just my configuration. Lol it doesn't need run at startup permissions.
Otherwise it's bulletproof, which is why I use it.
No malware ever slipped through it as it and the the N10+ are configured. It's been well tested...
I don't know what's going on, but all of a sudden with same usage and room temp I got 50.8 degrees (123.4F) in 10m Genshin play, it burned to the touch when case got removed, maybe it becomes the new Note 7 one day.
Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.
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Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.
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Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA
Justarandomguy said:
Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA
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Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
Cause of strange occasional behavior found
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Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
Cause of strange occasional behavior found
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I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
My p6 was heating much after april update, and phone performance while using it while charging is sluggish, and i feel its charging slower than before
Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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I would've been alarmed too and suspected the possibility of malware if no explanation could be found.
I don't allow firmware updates or upgrades. Same for Playstore, it's disabled. Results a fast and very stable phone; current load will 3yo in June. Still running on Pie. Security simply isn't an issue; no malware in all that time.
I rarely allow apps to update either; upgrades/updates can and do break things. On 3rd party apps updates can potentially deliver a malicious payload. Also no social media or sales apps are ever installed; browser login only. No online games, ever. I'm very careful about what I install and all email is kept in the cloud.
Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com
Dayuser said:
Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com
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Looks like this was the issue, still, an app being able to mess things up that much, or a phone not being able to control itself are pretty bad things, the max temp I ever got was 45.9 degrees, on a sunny day, 34-36°, playing for half an hour with max brightness, I'll try to keep my device as much as I can, I'd like to have it until major updates end at least