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[Q] Note 10.1 2014 charges very slowly

I just bought a new Note 10.1 2014 edition, everything works fine, except the battery takes 30 hours to charge to 100%!
The screen was off the entire time it was charging, but the device was still on, in airplane mode, with power saving mode on and the gps was off.
I'm using the stock samsung charger I got with it, but with a american-european converter, although I don't think that should matter, because on the box it said it could take over 10A, and the stock samsung charger is 2.0A.
The device doenst register the charger as a USB or anything, it realizes that it's charging via AC.
Is my cable, samsung charger or converter just dirty/broken? or is there something wrong with the device?
ps, I have Cleanrom 2.0 installed, and use some Gravity Box tweaks
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RuteNL said:
I just bought a new Note 10.1 2014 edition, everything works fine, except the battery takes 30 hours to charge to 100%!
The screen was off the entire time it was charging, but the device was still on, in airplane mode, with power saving mode on and the gps was off.
I'm using the stock samsung charger I got with it, but with a american-european converter, although I don't think that should matter, because on the box it said it could take over 10A, and the stock samsung charger is 2.0A.
The device doenst register the charger as a USB or anything, it realizes that it's charging via AC.
Is my cable, samsung charger or converter just dirty/broken? or is there something wrong with the device?
ps, I have Cleanrom 2.0 installed, and use some Gravity Box tweaks
Thanks
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If you have the Snapdragon P605 , then this should take around 3-4 hours for full charge from 0%, while Exynos processors P600/601 normally takes 5-6 hours charge time.
So probably you have a defected or malfunctioning charger or cable , try charging without the converter & see if the case is still the same , then that will be either a faulty cable or charger.

RuteNL said:
I just bought a new Note 10.1 2014 edition, everything works fine, except the battery takes 30 hours to charge to 100%!
The screen was off the entire time it was charging, but the device was still on, in airplane mode, with power saving mode on and the gps was off.
I'm using the stock samsung charger I got with it, but with a american-european converter, although I don't think that should matter, because on the box it said it could take over 10A, and the stock samsung charger is 2.0A.
The device doenst register the charger as a USB or anything, it realizes that it's charging via AC.
Is my cable, samsung charger or converter just dirty/broken? or is there something wrong with the device?
ps, I have Cleanrom 2.0 installed, and use some Gravity Box tweaks
Thanks
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I have the 600 and it takes 3 to 4 hours.
lsherif said:
If you have the Snapdragon P605 , then this should take around 3-4 hours for full charge from 0%, while Exynos processors P600/601 normally takes 5-6 hours charge time.
So probably you have a defected or malfunctioning charger or cable , try charging without the converter & see if the case is still the same , then that will be either a faulty cable or charger.
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I'm using the stock cable. I usually cut my device off to charge.
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Must be the converter mate because 10hrs is too long.

Geordie Affy said:
Must be the converter mate because 10hrs is too long.
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It`s 30 hours as he mentioned not 10 hours

lsherif said:
If you have the Snapdragon P605 , then this should take around 3-4 hours for full charge from 0%, while Exynos processors P600/601 normally takes 5-6 hours charge time.
So probably you have a defected or malfunctioning charger or cable , try charging without the converter & see if the case is still the same , then that will be either a faulty cable or charger.
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I have p600 and the charge from 5/6 to 100% is about 4 hours

lsherif said:
It`s 30 hours as he mentioned not 10 hours
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Oh I misread that lol....blimey 30hrs!!!

BarryH_GEG said:
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You lie.... Mine takes 4 - 5 hours tops...

ultramag69 said:
You lie.... Mine takes 4 - 5 hours tops...
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It does if you have a P-605 with Qualcomm's QuickCharge feature. See the pretty little stylized "A" in the upper left corner of the graphic I posted? It's the AnandTech logo. They don't lie and have been performing objective standardized tests on mobile devices longer than you've been an XDA member (2007). If my choice is believing their 7 hours and your "4-5 hours tops" guess who I and most people here are going to believe? And my P-601 does take about 7 hours to charge which is a hella long time especially when you're traveling.

BarryH_GEG said:
It does if you have a P-605 with Qualcomm's QuickCharge feature. See the pretty little stylized "A" in the upper left corner of the graphic I posted? It's the AnandTech logo. They don't lie and have been performing objective standardized tests on mobile devices longer than you've been an XDA member (2007). If my choice is believing their 7 hours and your "4-5 hours tops" guess who I and most people here are going to believe? And my P-601 does take about 7 hours to charge which is a hella long time especially when you're traveling.
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LOL, I'm literally timing mine as I type this - I will report back the exact time it takes from 5% to 100% - Using the standard wire and socket Samsung provided. Curios if people timed their devices if they would all be the same time frame - I know my first tablet took something around 6hrs to fully charge will see what this one is like.

mine charges at 21-24% per hour up until 80% where the trickling starts. at that point it constantly takes 90 minutes to top it off. i doubt that anand lies, but he's only testing one sample and he's reporting what he gets from it. mine takes 4-5hrs depending on how frisky the tablet feels in taking some juice.
i don't have any logs so bmw pro but if i ever remember to let it drop down so i can get a long charge logged i try and post it.
it's not like any of us are gaining any internet fame by reporting a 5hr charge or getting any pay.
cables do affect the charge rate a lot. so if you get less than 5hrs then check another cable. this this is very pick on the cable for some reason.

mine takes 3-4 hours....its a p605 probably you have a defective piece or try another power outlet

Po678 said:
mine takes 3-4 hours....its a p605 probably you have a defective piece or try another power outlet
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Holy crap. Just like the Exynos/S-800 N3, the Exynos/S-800 N10.1-14's use different charging circuitry and get very different results. AnandTech tested an Exynos P-600. Like my Exynos P-601 it takes 7 hours to charge from 0-100%. People with S-800 N10.1-14's have been reporting getting a full charge in 5ish hours which is about the percentage difference between the two different N3's. You'll also notice the second runner up in longest charging time is the Exynos-based N10 which, like the N10.1-14, uses a microUSB port to charge. If you adjust for the smaller battery, the Exynos N10.1-12 with a 30pin connector charges about 20% faster than the N10.1-14 with a USB charging port. N10 owners that bought the optional pogo pin charging module have been able to shave about 30ish% off their charging time which means it's not the battery or SoC causing prolonged charging times via USB on the N10.1-14 and N10.
Conclusion?
The P-605 is one of the fastest (if not the fastest) large format tablets.
The P-600/1 are slugs which is probably as much due to microUSB as a charging port rather than what the battery/SoC can handle as evidenced by the N10's improved performance when using pogo pins.
P.S. - Here's the N10's charging graph (via USB) and it's pretty linear. So Samsung (who builds the N10) may have done something in terms of faster charging mid-charge for the N10.1-14 but if they have that power they certainly didn't apply it on the N10.
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P.S.S. - P605 owners go away. "Slow charging" has nothing to do with you and you're just muddling the thread which admittedly should (re)titled "Exynos N10.1-14 Takes Forever to Charge."

BarryH_GEG said:
P.S.S. - P605 owners go away. "Slow charging" has nothing to do with you and you're just muddling the thread which admittedly should (re)titled "Exynos N10.1-14 Takes Forever to Charge."
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That's a bit harsh and funny at the same time :laugh:

Geordie Affy said:
That's a bit harsh and funny at the same time :laugh:
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Their belligerently calling people liars and making it seem that people posting different result are daft. If you can dish it out you should be able to take it. But seriously, this thread's very poorly named as it doesn't identify that only the P-600/1 are slow charging. I knew that from other discussions already had on this forum. So, while maybe a tad belligerent in their approach, people that didn't know there were differences between the Exynos and S-800 versions of the N10.1-14, could have assumed they were the same.
Here's the difference between a device using Qualcomm's P4981 dedicated charging module (QuickCharge) and a device using standard charging circuitry. Pretty impressive. Numbers below are for a 3,300mAh battery. And the dedicated charging circuit is what makes charging via USB mute on S-800 devices.

Okay here are my charging results which I have timed.
Started charging 16:20 @ 5% - https://www.dropbox.com/s/yeoup9hafrmw93q/Screenshot_2014-01-13-16-17-41.png
Finished charging @ 21:25 @ 100% - https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxmcpp0aq9od5l2/Screenshot_2014-01-13-21-24-28.png?m=
So charge time of 5 Hrs - like its been said, it charged very fast till 85% then slowed right right down!
Mind you I did not use the tablet at any point apart from lifting the book cover to see progress. Personally I think the charge times is alright.

Here's a little food for thought from the SGS4 forum. It doesn't matter if the device being tested is Exynos or Qualcomm since QuickCharge was introduced with S-800.
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With the advent of the S4, and its higher capacity battery, one could understand a higher charging current. However, I seem to have uncovered some findings that the charging system on the S4 is a bit more complex than first thought!
This is a bit techy, and assumes you have a basic amount of electrical knowledge, ie voltages, currents, resistance etc., but I'll try and keep it as simple as possible for anyone who may not!
To explain: The mains charger supplied with the S4 is a model number ETA-U90UWE, rated 5V @ 2A. However, the phone will ONLY charge at full current (which as I have measured so far, depending on what the phone regulates it to, typically sits in the region of 1.2 - 1.5A), when using the supplied charger (or possibly one of equal or higher current rating, depending on how it's configured internally), AND the supplied usb cable, OR any other usb cable, provided its shielding (the metal outer surface of the connectors) is connected at BOTH ends of the cable. Use a cable that doesn't have this shielding, and the charge current drops, regardless of whether there is plenty of current available or not. Use a different charger with an unshielded cable and the current drops even more, again regardless of whether it can supply plenty more current.
My assumption on this, is possibly an effort by Samsung to avoid the scenario of sticking 1.5 amps down a flimsy cheapo cable, the wires of which will likely be too thin to carry it.
After doing some probing around with a meter, I have managed to find a slight difference with the charger itself, compared to a generic one. In a generic one, the two data pins are usually just shorted together, which tells most phones that it's a mains charger rather than a USB port. On the Samsung one on the other hand, the pins appear to be shorted together, and also connected via resistors across the supply line (known as a potential divider), which holds these shorted data pins at a certain voltage. This is what tells the phone what sort of charger it's connected to.
Attached are a couple of diagrams to show the difference between the two chargers. There are in fact various setups of resistors that different manufacturers use to set the charging current, so it's quite easy to run into compatibility issues!
To make this a little less confusing I have done some preliminary experimenting, and I set out my results here.
For the test, I used combinations of 4 different usb style mains chargers: an apple iPhone one rated at 1A, an iPad one rated 2.4A, an HTC 1A one, and the genuine S4 one. With these I used two cables - the supplied Samsung S4 one (which is shielded), and a cheap generic one (which isn't). I started by measured the charging current directly with a meter, by using a very short usb breakout lead I've made, enabling me to interrupt the 5V line. However, I soon noticed that the use of any extension cables, even shielded, can lessen the chance of maintaining a good shielding connection, so I continued the exercise relying on the "galaxy charging current" app to get a reading.
Charger.................... Cable................ Current (A)
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HTC 1A.................Generic..................... 0.5
HTC 1A.................Samsung S4..............1.0
Apple 1A...............Generic......................0.5
Apple 1A...............Samsung S4..............1.0
Apple 2.4A............Generic......................0.6
Apple 2.4A............Samsung S4..............1.3
Samsung S4.........Generic...................... 0.8
Samsung S4.........Samsung S4...............1.3
So as you can see from these results, the original charger makes a difference, and the supplied cable (or a good quality shielded one) makes a further difference. If you have any further findings please feel free to add them here.
I can see that this is going to confuse some people, as it has me, as I'm sure some will inevitably try charging up their phone on generic chargers/leads at some point, with potentially long charging times resulting!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274321

that's been my experience. i've gotta make sure that i have the right cable AND charger to get the full blast - using p600. the fastest charge comes from the stock charger and a car charger i have (powergen 2.1A). no charger has ever reached 2A and the highest i've ever seen is 1.6A.
regardless of the fact that one's tablet may charge a few hours faster than someone else's - five+ hours for a charge is waaaaaaayyyyy to freaking long! my samsung ativ 500t has about the same battery capacity but charges in 90min. the 700t charges in 2hrs. of course using 12V 3.3A charger is giving a lot more juice than a 2.3A 5V charger is, lol.
one thing i noticed is that occasionally, the trickle ( charging past 80%) would sometimes drop to 300MAh instead of the normal 600 to 900. if i catch it, i just unplug it and replug it and it's back to normal. dunno what causes this though.

madsquabbles said:
one thing i noticed is that occasionally, the trickle ( charging past 80%) would sometimes drop to 300MAh instead of the normal 600 to 900. if i catch it, i just unplug it and replug it and it's back to normal. dunno what causes this though.
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Oh! Didn't even think of that - will give it a try next time and see if it speeds things up.

TurboPower 30 NOT charging faster than Turbopower 15. What's going on?

Hello all,
The recent discussions on xda and r/rMoto_Z about battery chargers and questions concerning whether or not a TurboPower 30 charger is it worth it to us Z Play users prompted me to do a quick test comparing the chargers.
What I found is my TurboPower 30 is not charging any faster than the TurboPower 15 that came with the phone. I am using tasker (I'm a tasker noob BTW) to log the time and battery level to a Google Sheet upon a change in battery level. I discharged the phone to 14% both times, shut it down, let it cool, turned it on, then plugged in without touching it during the charging process.
Overall, both chargers behave the same. Both charge at a rate around 1.1% to 1.15% charge per minute until the 90-92% mark, where they slow down drastically.
The TP15 took 90 minutes to charge, while the TP30 took 95 minutes to charge.
So what's going on here?
Is my phone malfunctioning?
Is my charger(s) malfunctioning?
Am I stupid and/or missing something?
Can the Z Play even make use of the extra amperage from the TP30?
I'm at a loss here. I could have sworn the TP30 seemed faster, but maybe not.
Can anybody else confirm the same behavior from their chargers?
I can provide a link to a graph and the google sheet itself once I get past the 10 posts required before posting outside links.

I have the Z Play and the Z Force. Using the 30 watt charger on the Play still only charges it at about the same rate as the 15 watt charger. Not sure of the reasons just saying the results I have gotten.

Motorola probably put a limit on that

Charging from 30% to 50% took just a few minutes but phone got really really hot... I'll stick to charging with my 10w ipad adaptor... Decently fast and phone stays cool :good:

TurboPower 30 i guarantee only reaches 30 watt output over 12 volts. Our phone only accepts 5v at 3 amps max (you can force it, but you will probably ruin a component). This is due to thermal restrictions and to help preserve the battery from degrading faster than normal due to heat. With my moto x pure I recieved a turbopower 25 which charged my phone (which is about the same size as this one) at 12v ~2.1 Amps and the phone was already thermal throttling while charging. With a phone that lasts 2 days already Lenovo probably figures you can top your phone off when you have time to, and even then charging at 15 watts is still pretty quick if you really need to charge your phone in a hurry. More power going in = more heat put out due to inefficiencies. This will change whenever we get superconductors figured out and can have ~100% efficiency, but that will (probably) take a while, and even then take longer before it trickles down to consumer products.

jon7701 said:
TurboPower 30 i guarantee only reaches 30 watt output over 12 volts. Our phone only accepts 5v at 3 amps max (you can force it, but you will probably ruin a component). This is due to thermal restrictions and to help preserve the battery from degrading faster than normal due to heat. With my moto x pure I recieved a turbopower 25 which charged my phone (which is about the same size as this one) at 12v ~2.1 Amps and the phone was already thermal throttling while charging. With a phone that lasts 2 days already Lenovo probably figures you can top your phone off when you have time to, and even then charging at 15 watts is still pretty quick if you really need to charge your phone in a hurry. More power going in = more heat put out due to inefficiencies. This will change whenever we get superconductors figured out and can have ~100% efficiency, but that will (probably) take a while, and even then take longer before it trickles down to consumer products.
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Actually, the TurboPower 30's max output is 5v @ 5.7a, hence the large fixed cable.
Motorola lists the TurboPower 30 as compatible with all Moto Z devices. I took "compatible" as meaning I will receive the full output on a Z Play. If that's not the case, then Motorola should specify as such. I mainly just want to find out if my issue is by design or isolated to me.

l3rewski said:
Actually, the TurboPower 30's max output is 5v @ 5.7a, hence the large fixed cable.
Motorola lists the TurboPower 30 as compatible with all Moto Z devices. I took "compatible" as meaning I will receive the full output on a Z Play. If that's not the case, then Motorola should specify as such. I mainly just want to find out if my issue is by design or isolated to me.
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Surprising that its actually at 5 volts tbh, since manufacturers were moving to 5, 9, and 12 volt standards for quick charging (not sure why the higher voltage instead of higher amperage). It would be by design though as the thermal restrictions still stand. The phone would have a hard time disipating all the heat generated (unless you suspended it by a string in mid air and had a fan blow on it :laugh and it could degrade the battery faster (due to heat). It is technically compatible in that will charge the phone and quick charge it at 15 watts, but it will not go up to 30 watts. It could be useful in the future when more laptops have thunderbolt 3 or 4 ports and you could use it for that .

jon7701 said:
Surprising that its actually at 5 volts tbh, since manufacturers were moving to 5, 9, and 12 volt standards for quick charging (not sure why the higher voltage instead of higher amperage). It would be by design though as the thermal restrictions still stand. The phone would have a hard time disipating all the heat generated (unless you suspended it by a string in mid air and had a fan blow on it :laugh and it could degrade the battery faster (due to heat). It is technically compatible in that will charge the phone and quick charge it at 15 watts, but it will not go up to 30 watts. It could be useful in the future when more laptops have thunderbolt 3 or 4 ports and you could use it for that .
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So what specifically in the design of the Z Play creates thermal restrictions greater than that of the Z Force? And what makes you believe the TurboForce 30 charger will charge other devices at ~30w? Is it a USB Power Delivery spec charger?
Regardless of all this, I still find the product description disingenuous. I would have simply gone with a standard (and cheaper) 15w USB-C- charger had I known this.

l3rewski said:
So what specifically in the design of the Z Play creates thermal restrictions greater than that of the Z Force? And what makes you believe the TurboForce 30 charger will charge other devices at ~30w? Is it a USB Power Delivery spec charger?
Regardless of all this, I still find the product description disingenuous. I would have simply gone with a standard (and cheaper) 15w USB-C- charger had I known this.
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It is disingenuous to an extent, they didnt lie to you when they said it would work, but they just didnt tell you that it wouldnt charge at the full 30 watts (maybe there was an asterisk for it?). From the little bits of research I did on the moto Z force forum, it seems that it does follow USB-PD, but I dont know much about USB-PD specs or Qualcomm quick charge specs honestly. The only real advantage the Z force has in terms of helping with heat disipation is the aluminum backplate it has vs our glass backplate, it could also have some extra copper inside of it to help spread the heat around as well. Aluminum transfers heat better then glass does which allows it to have more wiggle room in terms of thermal restrictions, but I bet you the phone still gets really hot while turbo charging especially at 30 watts. Since it seems to follow USB-PD spec that would mean that if another device that follows that spec (a laptop with USB type-c thunderbolt 3?) and requests that much power then yes, it should work.

and then, what is the exact charger for Moto Z2 Force ? 15 (included in package), or 30 ?

Question What's the typical charging speed for Poco F3?

So I charge my phone today from 32% to 100% in 1 hour and it seems like from the videos other guys get a 0-100 charge for that time. So I was thinking that either I have slower because I am using a UK-to-EU adapter for my charger (got it from UK) or that this speed is the typical one. What's your speed guys?

I like to charge my phone slowly (less than 10W - 3-5H charge) overnight which helps improve battery life.
More info here : https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/ultra_fast_chargers
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1C charge means 1 hour charge from ~0 to 100%.
2C charge means 30 min charge.. Why would you want to do that to your battery (half capacity at 500 recharges)?
Overnight at C/3 to C/5 does great things for the longevity.

The state of the phone also matters. Wifi, bluetooth, mobile data, music, video, apps, brightness, photo, camera, sensor, power save, battery temperature, surrounding climate, ... etc.
Adapters may also have their maximum output capped. Check on it's spec.

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I like to charge my phone slowly (less than 10W - 3-5H charge) overnight which helps improve battery life.
More info here : https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/ultra_fast_chargers
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1C charge means 1 hour charge from ~0 to 100%.
2C charge means 30 min charge.. Why would you want to do that to your battery (half capacity at 500 recharges)?
Overnight at C/3 to C/5 does great things for the longevity.
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How do you achieve this?

pl1992aw said:
The state of the phone also matters. Wifi, bluetooth, mobile data, music, video, apps, brightness, photo, camera, sensor, power save, battery temperature, surrounding climate, ... etc.
Adapters may also have their maximum output capped. Check on it's spec.
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The adapter doesn't have any specs unfortunately. I just bought a EU charger from Aliexpress. Hopefully it charges faster.

stavrosbin said:
How do you achieve this?
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Root with Magisk and use Advanced Charging Controller (acc) module.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/advanced-charging-controller-acc.3668427/
Or use old USB charger with the ampere lower, like 2.0A or lower.
That is achieved with slower charging.
PC USB socket most likely will charge VERY slow, to the point that you want it to charge faster.

stavrosbin said:
The adapter doesn't have any specs unfortunately. I just bought a EU charger from Aliexpress. Hopefully it charges faster.
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You will likely need to buy chargers made by Xiaomi if you want even faster charging.
Some technologies will need to match if you want them work at fullest.

pl1992aw said:
Root with Magisk and use Advanced Charging Controller (acc) module.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/advanced-charging-controller-acc.3668427/
Or use old USB charger with the ampere lower, like 2.0A or lower.
That is achieved with slower charging.
PC USB socket most likely will charge VERY slow, to the point that you want it to charge faster.
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Oh I had this magisk module on my Oneplus 5T. Guess I will just download that and its app. Do I need to do anything to make it work like you are saying? I thought it only regulated charging speed for V and temperature.

pl1992aw said:
You will likely need to buy chargers made by Xiaomi if you want even faster charging.
Some technologies will need to match if you want them work at fullest.
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Yeah this charger is supposed to be legit. Will wait and see when I get it.

Just like the Redmi Note 10 Pro and Poco X3 Pro, among other Xiaomi phones, the Poco F3 battery supports 33W Mi Fast charging and the phone ships with a 33W adapter and a 3A-rated cable.

stavrosbin said:
Oh I had this magisk module on my Oneplus 5T. Guess I will just download that and its app. Do I need to do anything to make it work like you are saying? I thought it only regulated charging speed for V and temperature.
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It has the ability to control and lower the current (unit in mAh default). To make the current controled, you apply the set current and then reboot.
You can read the README in github for more info.
You have to test it though, I can't.
Use app Ampere to confirm the charging speed.

stavrosbin said:
So I charge my phone today from 32% to 100% in 1 hour and it seems like from the videos other guys get a 0-100 charge for that time. So I was thinking that either I have slower because I am using a UK-to-EU adapter for my charger (got it from UK) or that this speed is the typical one. What's your speed guys?
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I have successfully charged my device from 0-100 in 18 minutes record. But that fried my battery within 15 days.

Had replied some similar questions.
Some info may be useful to read:
So what is the best android charging habit...?
So I bought POCO X3 Pro earlier this month...So I play games on it mainly and the question is which kind of charging habit is better? 1.Frequently charging to make the percentage between 50%-100% 2.Charge it to 80-90 and try not make to make it...
forum.xda-developers.com

stavrosbin said:
How do you achieve this?
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As correctly said by pl1992aw, I use an old 1A adapter that goes from 20% to 100% in under 5 hours.
With the same strategy my Tab Note 10.1 (not 2014) still has a working battery although it's of no use anymore..

pl1992aw said:
It has the ability to control and lower the current (unit in mAh default). To make the current controled, you apply the set current and then reboot.
You can read the README in github for more info.
You have to test it though, I can't.
Use app Ampere to confirm the charging speed.
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Okay thanks a lot man

Saazmusic said:
I have successfully charged my device from 0-100 in 18 minutes record. But that fried my battery within 15 days.
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Hahaha that's really overkill I don't want this kind of treatment.

Also charging speed changes based on battery percentage to make battery last longer

The idea with a low power charger to extend the battery life is really nice, cause i usually charge my phone over night and don't want to stress my battery for nothing.

stavrosbin said:
Hahaha that's really overkill I don't want this kind of treatment.
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Yeah nobody should want this. I used to mess in the kernel & alter the charge controlling voltage & current values. Soon I realised and concluded that charging a lithium battery with high voltages(9v fast charging) or high current significantly degrades the life of the battery. In addition, charging the battery upto 80% increases the life of battery by 4x in comparison to charging it upto 100%. Phone brands play a trick on us keeping their planned obsolescence marketing in their hands. Now I happily charge my phone with old 1 amp charger. It does slow but the battery wear data is really satisfying.

Saazmusic said:
Yeah nobody should want this. I used to mess in the kernel & alter the charge controlling voltage & current values. Soon I realised and concluded that charging a lithium battery with high voltages(9v fast charging) or high current significantly degrades the life of the battery. In addition, charging the battery upto 80% increases the life of battery by 4x in comparison to charging it upto 100%. Phone brands play a trick on us keeping their planned obsolescence marketing in their hands. Now I happily charge my phone with old 1 amp charger. It does slow but the battery wear data is really satisfying.
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To add, fast charge is for convenience and emergency eg. forgot to charge at night and need to rush in the morning.

General "Pixel 6 doesn’t actually charge at 30W as Google implies, analysis finds 22W max"

9to5Google has released an interesting article. I never noticed this, since I charge my phone slowly overnight with a 5 watt wireless charger. Have you guys also experienced this? Can people here with root can confirm wattage measurements? Especially the decrease overtime?
As it seems, both the Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro are affected by this.
Google is notorious for having algorithms that sometime suck and need refinement, just like Adaptive Charging that only likes you when you are a normal human being that wakes up in the morning; if you are a night worker, Google doesn't care about you.
Pixel 6 doesn't actually charge at 30W as Google implies, analysis finds 22W max
A new analysis of the Pixel 6 charging speeds finds that the phone never hits its advertised 30W charging speeds, even under ideal conditions.
9to5google.com

Lawsuit?

jayr04 said:
Lawsuit?
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At this point I'd rather have a broken adaptive charging setting as the culprit. Maybe it's active without people having the toggle on. As far as I know, the "trigger" for adaptive charging is an alarm set in the morning. Would be interesting to know if the people with slow charging problems have any alarms set at all, to rule that out.

I was going to take the charger back because I had to pay for it and for the most part was no faster than my previous pixel phones, a couple of days ago tried the two chargers side by side, and this time the charger was apparently going to be 30mins faster to fully charge, nothing scientific rather looking at time till full on lock screen.
And as you mention in the evenings charges super slowly, so no point having a charger that I had to pay for.
The has been plenty of people saying that their phone never fully charges, and my guess also is no alarm set

I'm having similar issues with wireless charging so I think this is probably part of a bigger problem with the phone, and probably why they haven't put out the new pixel stand yet. It could really tank the launch if they released it today and the phone still has all these problems and can't charge at the advertised 23 Watts.

After reading this I'll be sending my charger back, no immediate need for it at the moment, perhaps further down the line if Google sort it out on the phone.

Google need to address this because a lot of us have bought the official charger and it's not giving what is advertised. They'll keep quiet about it though until any sort of noise from it dies down.

Morgrain said:
At this point I'd rather have a broken adaptive charging setting as the culprit. Maybe it's active without people having the toggle on. As far as I know, the "trigger" for adaptive charging is an alarm set in the morning. Would be interesting to know if the people with slow charging problems have any alarms set at all, to rule that out.
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No, I've no alarms set

Anyone notice battery share is broken too? Only charges the device for about 20sec before stopping.

I have watched my device charge using a smart plug that measures wattage and I've never seen mine go over 26 watts.

Batfink33 said:
Anyone notice battery share is broken too? Only charges the device for about 20sec before stopping.
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nope working fine here

squee666 said:
nope working fine here
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Hmmmm. Thanks.

I have had mine run at over 32w on an aftermarket charger

What charger??

DespairFactor said:
I have had mine run at over 32w on an aftermarket charger
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I have a dumb question. How are you able to tell? I have the app ampere but it shows it in mAh do you know how I can tell how much wattage it's pulling?
Thanks. Also what charger did you use?

2727alex2727 said:
I have a dumb question. How are you able to tell? I have the app ampere but it shows it in mAh do you know how I can tell how much wattage it's pulling?
Thanks. Also what charger did you use?
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I was using a ravpower and the franco kernel manager app for determining the wattage

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I have had mine run at over 32w on an aftermarket charger
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What current did it pull?

Mine was charging at 27.4W (fluctuating between 25W-27.4W, I'm assuming because I had the display on) using Google's 30W power brick. My battery was at 71%, I'm going to try it when the battery is lower to see if I can get 30W.
The article says it doesn't go over 22W, that's already false in my case.

bouchigo said:
Mine was charging at 27.4W (fluctuating between 25W-27.4W, I'm assuming because I had the display on) using Google's 30W power brick. My battery was at 71%, I'm going to try it when the battery is lower to see if I can get 30W.
The article says it doesn't go over 22W, that's already false in my case.
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Not sure how you're getting 27.4w there? 30w is approximately 6000mah current draw, no?

spr33 said:
Not sure how you're getting 27.4w there? 30w is approximately 6000mah current draw, no?
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It depends on the voltage. The specifications of the power brick say that at 5V and 9V it outputs 3A of current.
You can see from the screenshot I posted that the phone was pulling 3.076A @27.4W.
P=VI, so V=P/I
V=27.4W/3.076A=8.91V
It seems pretty spot on to me.
Attached the specifications of the power brick.

Question Should I get Pixel 6 or wait for 7

I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!

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My thoughts...
Replace the LG battery and be happy.
Lol, if it's got a 5000 mAh battery it's because it sucks juice like a 2nd st hooker.
Variable refresh rate displays are something of a menace, still. Android 12 is a menace

For what it's worth, I don't have any problems with the battery life on my Pixel 6 Pro. I know there have been many others who do, though, as you said.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Wait.

Like everything, battery life will depend on your usage.
I unplugged my P6P this morning at 5:15. It is now 11:45 and battery is at 86%. Most of that battery drop was while I was driving to work, car gets data by tethering through phone, and that draws a fairly continuous flow of navigation data, which while not a large amount of data, keeps the phone awake and drains the battery down.
I also run GrapheneOS, completely free of gooble crap, so that will obviously benefit the battery life substantially.
Unless you can get a real great deal on the 6, I'd wait on the 7. Just keep the old phone plugged in more and you should be able to drag it out long enough.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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In case money matters, the Pixel 6 series is $200 off right now at the U.S. Google Store. Sale ends Wednesday.

Wait.
Better modem, better fingerprint sensor, face unlock for both models

Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...

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Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...
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At least get a new battery, regardless you'll have a backup phone. That's a good thing.
You lose nothing by waiting if you can. Then pick the best phone by usability, functionality, and reliability. Does it fullfill it's mission, is it fun to use?
That's why I'm still running 2 N10+'s which I still highly recommend if running on 9 or 10. I haven't seen anything in over 2 years that would do what or how I wanted... I use whatever comes in handy.

I had the LG G7, gave it to my dad who still uses it now. I've owned/used a Pixel 4a, 4a5g and now the Pixel 6 pro. The 6 pro is the best phone I've used out of all of them. I have no battery issues on my 6pro, and it is much faster/nicer experience over the G7. I wanted a bigger screen and an updated/better software experience. The LG G7 on verizon is not getting any updates past Android 9 (not 100% sure?) So I went with an unlocked 6Pro.
Waiting is always going to be your best bet, but it also depends on what your biggest gripes are with the G7 besides the aging battery. If you can get a good deal on the 6/6 Pro or even a Galaxy 22 ultra they both have excellent software update guarantees and great battery. I predict however the difference between the 6pro and 7pro will not be that big and you won't miss out on much other than you having the feeling of knowing you have the latest phone. Look on Swappa site to find great deals now or close to when the 7pro goes on sale. Lots of people there that take good care of their devices looking to sell.

As someone that loves my Pixel 6 Pro, if you can wait then do it.
My biggest gripes with the phone are the modem, 1st gen tensor, and inconsistent fingerprint reader. I live on the cusp of 5G and it wreaks havoc on my battery. I have to turn off 5G when I'm home which is a pain in the butt. The 1st gen tensor also has a tendency to heat up when it's warm out. I've had the phone get super warm and thermal throttle a couple of times now in my first summer with it. My hopes are that the second gen is a little more resilient. Lastly, the fingerprint reader has been hit or miss depending on various screen protectors. Some films worked, some didn't. My first Whitestone Dome was more hit than miss, my second has been flawless but slooow.
All that said, I still love this phone. If you don't want to wait, or can't, then go for it. It has its' quirks, but it's still probably my favorite phone in a while. I'll likely trade up for a P7 Pro when it comes out.

wait until it is with good moderm and good heat managment

I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.

darkness4every1 said:
I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.
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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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They might just as well add a micro blower fan and a 10 Ah battery and call it done.

blackhawk said:
That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?

darkness4every1 said:
My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year
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Ouch, that can happen. Just replace it when it gets to 80% of its original capacity, the end of it's useful service life to avoid a battery failure. That can damage to display or worse.
I expect a 1 year service life on a heavily used device especially if is used in high temperatures or is constantly under a high current drain. No big deal, just routine maintenance.
Many of the lastest Androids are hot running messes, not well balanced at all. The manufacturer shoving in a huge battery in masks the poor design but it's not a solution

Ghisy said:
Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?
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For me this would even make less sense, because you get the same Tensor and the same crappy modem while you miss out on the main advantage of the P6P - the top camera.

The Google P6P is my first smartphone that can comfortably handle a full day of intensive photography on a day trip, along with looking at the map and recording the route, on a single charge, and still has some power left over.