I use the default Samsung text app because I want to use Chat texting (the only other option I know of is Google and it doesn't work with the Chat messages imported from my previous phone, so doesn't show them). I have had a large number of regular SMS/MMS texts to non-Chat people give me an error of not being able to be sent, usually a couple of minutes later with an error notification but occasionally with a pop-up immediately upon sending that says it will be sent when the service is available. I've also noticed lately that people's Chat texting dots turn off very often even if I'm sitting in the same place I saw them on shortly before, and most of the time flipping Airplane Mode on and off again fixes it (and I'll see a Google notification about backing up X number of contacts, with X being the number of dots that turned off [usually two since if the one I tapped on turned off, I'll check another to see if it is me or that person]).
Anyone else have this problem? I also have a problem, as I said in the reception thread, with the cell reception bars going from full to no service in a second, for a second or two, and go back to full bars. This is on T-mobile US. I feel like it worsened after the update a day or two ago, but I might be wrong about that. It is really ridiculous, though!
I'm Tmobile too. Same issues. It's definitely a tmobile issue.
Using Google Messages on T-Mobile and none of these issues.
my wife's zflip3 on at&t using google messages has been doing this the last few days.
when she got home from work this evening I checked and her rcs settings were stuck on 'connecting'. I did the airplane mode, clear carrier services data, messages data, and then turned off airplane mode. then went to messages and verified phone number in chat settings, and its been working since ( a few hours now). I will see how it goes when she goes to work again tomorrow. strange that it just happened out of the blue though. I think there was a carrier services update in the last day or two, so that may have caused it.
I'm in the UK and have been having issues with chat messages getting stuck on sending and not receiving, have also had issues with other notifications being very delayed not sure if Google play services update had caused it. It seems alright again at the moment
Similar issues with AT&T in the the US, they have issues with their RCS Profile. Unfortunately carriers are usually trash.
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Similar issues with AT&T in the the US, they have issues with their RCS Profile. Unfortunately carriers are usually trash.
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Did you use iPhone before you use fold 3? if so, I think you need to disable iMessage on iPhone first.
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Did you use iPhone before you use fold 3? if so, I think you need to disable iMessage on iPhone first.
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Nope, unfortunately it is not that. There are common issues with RCS and AT&T
My speculation is that it is related to their 1.0 RCS Profile and their 5G coverage in the area, as it often confuses the antennas if there is 5G or not in the area
Now, I am using Android/Google Messages as it has a much better feature set than Samsung's default
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Nope, unfortunately it is not that. There are common issues with RCS and AT&T
My speculation is that it is related to their 1.0 RCS Profile and their 5G coverage in the area, as it often confuses the antennas if there is 5G or not in the area
Now, I am using Android/Google Messages as it has a much better feature set than Samsung's default
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Ok. hopefully, it will be fixed in the new firmware.
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Nope, unfortunately it is not that. There are common issues with RCS and AT&T
My speculation is that it is related to their 1.0 RCS Profile and their 5G coverage in the area, as it often confuses the antennas if there is 5G or not in the area
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Unfortunately, Google Messages isn't an option for me because I need to be able to refer to old texts imported from my previous phone, and Google Messages isn't able to read (show) old RCS texts from Samsung (my previous phone was the S7 Edge).
I'm guessing the issue might improve if they fix the signal issue, which has also dropped a couple of calls.
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Unfortunately, Google Messages isn't an option for me because I need to be able to refer to old texts imported from my previous phone, and Google Messages isn't able to read (show) old RCS texts from Samsung (my previous phone was the S7 Edge).
I'm guessing the issue might improve if they fix the signal issue, which has also dropped a couple of calls.
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That is interesting, for me it was able to port other messages when I switched from previous devices (S21 plus, iPhone 11 Pro Max), it just has them as SMS rather than as chat.
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That is interesting, for me it was able to port other messages when I switched from previous devices (S21 plus, iPhone 11 Pro Max), it just has them as SMS rather than as chat.
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Lucky. At first I thought it had deleted some of my conversations, but then I saw them lower in the list because it thought their last texts were a lot earlier in time since it wasn't showing a lot of the texts. This included some important people to me, so I had to switch back to the Samsung text app, where thankfully they all appeared again.
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UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
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Matt_TX.
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Trying updating your Profile and PRL.
if that doesn't fix it, dial #2
I also have noticed issue #1. I even called Sprint to ask about it and they referred me to a 3rd party app in the marketplace to fix the timestamp.
I have been using Handcent ever since to get around the issue.
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trying updating your Profile and PRL.
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I also have noticed issue #1. I even called Sprint to ask about it and they referred me to a 3rd party app in the marketplace to fix the timestamp.
I have been using Handcent ever since to get around the issue.
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Its the tower issue mentioned at the top of this topic. Updating your PRL, (Preferred Roaming Location), is usually helpful when you are traveling and lose signal, this will help catch another carriers tower or at least one a bit closer, also, updating your Profile, (Data profile), only will refresh from your device the settings matching your NAI (ID address) with your carrier and refresh your data settings...ie > HCM/SPS>OMA, these tactics are unnecessary, and you can do both with a quick power cycle. The best thing for timestamp correction is to use your phone time as the stamps source & to make sure only to use for future time dated messages. As for dialing *2 or #2 as in this thread, it will get you no where with the issue, they will only refresh your device in their system, in this case meaning Sprint, you can do the same, unless, of course you are running specific roms which clear Carrier IQ, you may then run in to some trouble with those device self updaters, but as mentioned earlier a power cycle will do the same all at once.
The Time Stamp Fix, from the Market works just fine
Does this fix work for when you have your phone off or in Airplane mode? I hate getting my text messages when I turn my phone back on are they are all timestamped to when I turned my phone back on not to when they were actually sent.
thank god i saw this, i have a vzw prl and my timestamp is always 4 hours in the future. works great.
Oddly my sms timestamp is fine on aosp roms, just on sense it is off...
Day 2 of life with Pixel XL, and so far im honestly loving it. Coming from an S7 Edge (which shouldnt feel like a huge jump) definitely feels like a huge jump. Anywho, im having issues receiving group texts from what i suspect samsung phones (1 of the persons i cant receive from 100% has a samsung) I can text and send pics back and forth with that person sms no problem, but when we get in our group text and start responding it comes to me in his personal text thread as "Couldn't Download Tap to Download" i KNOW ive had this issue before with nexus phones, i wanna say my 6P did this and i switched to hangouts (back then) and it fixed it, however now switching to hangouts makes a mess out of my text messages ( i guess they seperated the two apps completely). Im on AT&T if that makes a difference, google store purchased.
Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone have any ideas?
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Day 2 of life with Pixel XL, and so far im honestly loving it. Coming from an S7 Edge (which shouldnt feel like a huge jump) definitely feels like a huge jump. Anywho, im having issues receiving group texts from what i suspect samsung phones (1 of the persons i cant receive from 100% has a samsung) I can text and send pics back and forth with that person sms no problem, but when we get in our group text and start responding it comes to me in his personal text thread as "Couldn't Download Tap to Download" i KNOW ive had this issue before with nexus phones, i wanna say my 6P did this and i switched to hangouts (back then) and it fixed it, however now switching to hangouts makes a mess out of my text messages ( i guess they seperated the two apps completely). Im on AT&T if that makes a difference, google store purchased.
Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone have any ideas?
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APN advice above may do it, I also hear there is something with hangout integration for MMS/SMS, maybe something is wrong there, try turning the integration off? but I also have no idea what I am talking about since I don't have the phone yet.
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Im with you here, however am i using the right APN? I havent touched it, but there are 3 options...
ATT Nextgenphone (which is currently selected, assuming default as i didnt touch it)
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Im with you here, however am i using the right APN? I havent touched it, but there are 3 options...
ATT Nextgenphone (which is currently selected, assuming default as i didnt touch it)
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AT&T Nextgen is the APN you want. I run into this from time to time on my Nexus 6P on AT&T. It can be the size of the message (number of photos or too high of a resolution) someone is trying to send you or the source. I had a problem a few weeks ago with a video clip from Facebook (which I don't have), it would not "download."
I've had the same problem. It seems to only happen coming from my wife's Note 5 on ATT. I also had the same problem on my Moto X Pure. Can't say for sure if I remember having the problem using Hangouts, but definitely do using Google Messenger. I'm like you, I believe it may just be a Samsung problem because I can't remember it ever happening with anyone else I know.
I had the same issue with a group text with two other people. Once of them is using an S7 (I am on ATT and that friend is on ATT as well) and i could not receive any of his messages with the same "touch to download" error.
It seems to have fixed itself yesterday somehow and his messages started to come in.
Glad I'm not the only one. I came from an s7 edge. Can't get certain mms from my work group message, some have iPhone some have Android. ATT doesn't have a clue, google doesn't have a clue, I don't have a clue.....really no one has a clue. I did a hard reset, deleted the other APNs, put my sim card in my old phone and back in, tried a new sim card, 3 different SMS apps. It's almost as frustrating as Google's 100 pointless SMS apps but not quite that bad.
Yeah i randomly have them come in and then randomly stop working. It's frustrating definitely. Hopefully someone smarter than me comes around and tells us what's going on and how to correct?
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And it just stopped working again. I noticed this is only happening when I'm using the Pixel and the other person is using a Samsung S7, on AT&T, in a group chat and is sending regular text (i.e. not an image). If that person sends an image to the group, I get it on my end. If that person is sending me a direct text message or a direct image, I can get. This only happens when he sends a text to the group.
I have another group where one of the users is using an S7 but not on AT&T and I can get his messages in the group text.
If I put my SIM in another android phone, everything is working even in the group text. This has to something to do with either the S7 on AT&T or the Pixel.
Very odd.
Interesting. Pixel 5 on at&t and I have issues with txting as well. Sometimes they just stop altogether until one triggers my txt some how and I get a few in a row. I was using chomp but I don't think that's the issue. My moto x pure on at&f was fine. Must be something with the pixel on at&t. Group MMS also takes a while to get to me. Sometimes I get them an hour after the fact. Same three ppl on my moto x pure last year with no issues.
Anyone figure anything out? Was hoping the new messenger update would have solved it but nope. Still doing it
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Solution: This seems to be happening when both sides are using the same carrier and one side has a stock android and the other has a carrier branded Samsung phone with "advanced messaging" enabled and all parties are in a group chat.
Ask the Samsung user to disable the advanced messaging feature under: Messages > MORE > Settings > Advanced Messaging and you should be able to receive group text messages from this person on your pixel.
Seems like something half baked with the carrier or Samsung advanced messaging setup.
I just tested this with my friend and it started to work.
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Deleting all the unused APNs worked for me. Thanks!
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clubtech said:
Solution: This seems to be happening when both sides are using the same carrier and one side has a stock android and the other has a carrier branded Samsung phone with "advanced messaging" enabled and all parties are in a group chat.
Ask the Samsung user to disable the advanced messaging feature under: Messages > MORE > Settings > Advanced Messaging and you should be able to receive group text messages from this person on your pixel.
Seems like something half baked with the carrier or Samsung advanced messaging setup.
I just tested this with my friend and it started to work.
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That sounds like it probably would work. I'm sure that turns off the Samsung read receipts and showing when other person typing etc.. On Samsung end. Seriously annoying though lol hopefully they will fix this soon
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How do you delete the other 2 APNs not being used? I have pixel 5
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Deleting all the unused APNs worked for me. Thanks!
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How did you delete the apns? I am trying everything with no luck. Not sure how. (Pixel 5 user)
My friend has galaxy s6 and in group texts I can not see what she puts. Only a tap to download.
Turns out deleting the APN doesn't fix it. I think it has something to do with the advanced messaging that the Samsung phones use. Ask your friend to turn off advanced messaging and see if that helps.
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I'm also having the same issue. I have a pixel xl and my friend is using a Galaxy S7 . When we are in a group text together I do not get any of his messages (unless it is an image). I had him download Textra and this fixed the issue, but he doesn't like textra so we are back to square one. I'm going to have him try disabling the "Advanced Text Messaging" in his messaging app to see if this works. This is a very annoying issue.
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I'm also having the same issue. I have a pixel xl and my friend is using a Galaxy S7 . When we are in a group text together I do not get any of his messages (unless it is an image). I had him download Textra and this fixed the issue, but he doesn't like textra so we are back to square one. I'm going to have him try disabling the "Advanced Text Messaging" in his messaging app to see if this works. This is a very annoying issue.
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He turned "Advanced Text Messaging" off and this solved the issue!
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And it just stopped working again. I noticed this is only happening when I'm using the Pixel and the other person is using a Samsung S7, on AT&T, in a group chat and is sending regular text (i.e. not an image). If that person sends an image to the group, I get it on my end. If that person is sending me a direct text message or a direct image, I can get. This only happens when he sends a text to the group.
I have another group where one of the users is using an S7 but not on AT&T and I can get his messages in the group text.
If I put my SIM in another android phone, everything is working even in the group text. This has to something to do with either the S7 on AT&T or the Pixel.
Very odd.
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I have precisely the same issue on my pixel xl. It's only from a Samsung user in a group mms, text only chat, no pics. But I don't know if I can ask my boss to disable his advanced setting which I see seems to be a solution . Grrr very frustrating.
I am having a problem that started a few months ago, although not when I first purchased my S9.
For some reason I started having a problem where I am not receiving all of my SMS texts. Its often MMS but also sometimes regular SMS. Its not only from iPhones. It seems to happen more when I am in bad service or the phone is off, and then when I turn it on or get service, the texts never come (although I think it may be happening in other circumstances as well - not sure).
I have been using Textra and Handcent. When I switch to the stock Samsung app, the missing messages are not there either.
I have read a lot online about people having this issue, but havent really heard anyone have an answer.
AT&T (of course) says everything is fine with the phone and the network.
I am hoping maybe some XDAers have encountered and solved this?
Thanks in advance for suggestions.
Well hate to break your bubble but AT&T is lying through their teeth about it not being their problem because it is. They're really good at doing that. On the plus side, your phone is 100% fine.
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I am having a problem that started a few months ago, although not when I first purchased my S9.
For some reason I started having a problem where I am not receiving all of my SMS texts. Its often MMS but also sometimes regular SMS. Its not only from iPhones. It seems to happen more when I am in bad service or the phone is off, and then when I turn it on or get service, the texts never come (although I think it may be happening in other circumstances as well - not sure).
I have been using Textra and Handcent. When I switch to the stock Samsung app, the missing messages are not there either.
I have read a lot online about people having this issue, but havent really heard anyone have an answer.
AT&T (of course) says everything is fine with the phone and the network.
I am hoping maybe some XDAers have encountered and solved this?
Thanks in advance for suggestions.
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if its not in the stock app, its not your phone most likely. AT&T is historically known for lying through their teeth. Kinda shocked that they havent been forced to shut down by the FCC to be honest. They have a very pleasant and air tight outside appearance and they have accomplished some great things all while doing the right ting from time to time. They dont look so open and honest when you start reading reports on them. Funny part is that i recall reading hard copies of news bulletins about what wrongs they have committed and its not the easiest thing in the world to get that info online. Suppression tactics probably. Anyways, make a new APN and set it up with all the parameters, select it and see what happens. There are tons of threads on at&t apns spanning many device forums, and people have luck with differing, yet certain settings. Id check some of those out and make several APNs with that info. Youlll never have a problem caused by having eleventeen APNs on your device
Hi,
I've been searching for answers about this issue, but I haven't found anything for my specific problem (though I have found similar). I'm hoping someone here can help me, because it's incredibly frustrating.
I've had my OnePlus 7t for a few weeks now. I rooted it pretty much as soon as I got it. So basically, I live in a black hole with very little cell signal. I can almost never get calls inside my house, and text messages are often delayed. However, I've been texting my mom and sisters in a group MMS for years and never had this problem before. On my old phone, a Samsung Galaxy S8, same network, the texts might be delayed, but they would download automatically and still end up in the proper order of when they were sent.
Now on my OnePlus, they are ordered by when they are received. This makes it so that I only get part of a conversation on time, and the rest of it comes in several hours (sometimes many hours) later. I can't keep track of what is being discussed when I keep missing important bits. I thought at first that photos were more likely to be delayed, but it's really a toss-up as to what will come through and what won't. It only seems to be affecting the group texts, not individual ones. I should mention, they all have iPhones. I'm the only one using Android.
As far as troubleshooting, I've tried using a different default text app, I've tried using my Google Voice number instead, and I'm currently turning off MMS in favor of mass SMS to see if that will work. I don't know what other details to give really. If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.
Is anyone experiencing issues receiving group messages from iPhone users?
No issue here on my 6 pro or my wife's 6. Could it be a carrier issue for you?
The reason I say that is my wife and I are in a mms group chat with family that has iphones but we're all on the same carrier
No issues on Google Fi, other than the annoying separate message every time someone reacts to a post.
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No issue here on my 6 pro or my wife's 6. Could it be a carrier issue for you?
The reason I say that is my wife and I are in a mms group chat with family that has iphones but we're all on the same carrier
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I've tried 3 different carriers and sent my device back to Google with no luck. I can't receive MMS messages from two iphone users. No idea why.
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Is anyone experiencing issues receiving group messages from iPhone users?
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No issues on T-Mo that I've noticed. I've received SMS/MMS from Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mo subscribers today.
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No issue here on my 6 pro or my wife's 6. Could it be a carrier issue for you?
The reason I say that is my wife and I are in a mms group chat with family that has iphones but we're all on the same carrier
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I've tried 3 different carriers and sent my device back to Google with no luck. I can't receive MMS messages from two iphone users. No
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No issues on T-Mo that I've noticed. I've received SMS/MMS from Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mo subscribers today.
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I'm starting to think that this issue was somehow associated with my number. Originally I was on T-Mobile and ported my number to to Xfinity Mobile. Since the port, I've been having strange issues with group MMS messages. I feel like at this point I might have to get a new number.
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I've tried 3 different carriers and sent my device back to Google with no luck. I can't receive MMS messages from two iphone users. No
I'm starting to think that this issue was somehow associated with my number. Originally I was on T-Mobile and ported my number to to Xfinity Mobile. Since the port, I've been having strange issues with group MMS messages. I feel like at this point I might have to get a new number.
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It could be related, but it could also not be. I don't think it's specific to the device though, tbh.
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It could be related, but it could also not be. I don't think it's specific to the device though, tbh.
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I put my sim in another phone and I'm still having the same issue
I would try having the sim replaced before I get a new number
And are we talking about a delay or "never comes, not today, not tomorrow and not in a hundred years"?
If it's about the former, is your phone rooted? Do you have any battery saving apps? Did you tinker with any ADB commands?
If the SIM/your phone number itself is the culprit, that should be relatively easy to find out. Just put it into the phone of someone else (they can create a guest account) and see if that works.
I know my family (all iphone users) say that sometimes i (and other Android users) miss some of their texts. I blame Apple
I updated my plan last week and have not received group messages. I was on a chat with Verizon today for like 2 hrs because I ordered a new sim but it wouldn't activate so they activated then after about 45 minutes they were able to get my group messaging working. It seemed like they removed group messaging from my service then added it back and everything has been fine since. Good luck it was driving me crazy for the past 5 days
It's likely an issue with the sender's carrier. Once upon a time I absolutely would not receive any mms from any iPhone on at&t on time. They'd come in days late, and out of order. Made group texts a nightmare.
If you can, get your people to switch to Signal. It's like iMessage, but it works cross platform.
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And are we talking about a delay or "never comes, not today, not tomorrow and not in a hundred years"?
If it's about the former, is your phone rooted? Do you have any battery saving apps? Did you tinker with any ADB commands?
If the SIM/your phone number itself is the culprit, that should be relatively easy to find out. Just put it into the phone of someone else (they can create a guest account) and see if that works.
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Thanks. I've tried putting the SIM in another phone and it's the same issue. I'm starting to think something went wrong during the port.
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I updated my plan last week and have not received group messages. I was on a chat with Verizon today for like 2 hrs because I ordered a new sim but it wouldn't activate so they activated then after about 45 minutes they were able to get my group messaging working. It seemed like they removed group messaging from my service then added it back and everything has been fine since. Good luck it was driving me crazy for the past 5 days
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I've tried r mobile, Xfinity Mobile, and now I'm o AT&T. Are you able to get more info on what the steps the rep took?
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Thanks. I've tried putting the SIM in another phone and it's the same issue. I'm starting to think something went wrong during the port.
I've tried r mobile, Xfinity Mobile, and now I'm o AT&T. Are you able to get more info on what the steps the rep took?
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I am not sure but I am still having problems intermittently. I'll get some texts then I may not get a text in between. I am just starting to think the Feb update broke something and hopefully it will be fixed with the march update.
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I am not sure but I am still having problems intermittently. I'll get some texts then I may not get a text in between. I am just starting to think the Feb update broke something and hopefully it will be fixed with the march update.
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing