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[Q] Please help, group mms issue

I have a group message going with 2 iphone friends, a windows phone, and my note 3. Everything works great 90% of the time but sometimes the group mms will get fragmented. For example some messages will come through in a thread that only includes me and 2 of the members or some mms will come through as only for me. However, everyone gets these mms's that get screwed up, just not in the thread they are supposed to be in. We don't know who's phone is causing this but I suspect its the windows phone (Nokia Lumia 521). All the phones are on ATT except the Lumia which is on metro pcs. Has anyone heard of anything like this or have any suggestions to fixing this issue?

systoxity said:
I have a group message going with 2 iphone friends, a windows phone, and my note 3. Everything works great 90% of the time but sometimes the group mms will get fragmented. For example some messages will come through in a thread that only includes me and 2 of the members or some mms will come through as only for me. However, everyone gets these mms's that get screwed up, just not in the thread they are supposed to be in. We don't know who's phone is causing this but I suspect its the windows phone (Nokia Lumia 521). All the phones are on ATT except the Lumia which is on metro pcs. Has anyone heard of anything like this or have any suggestions to fixing this issue?
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Yup, happens with me and my brother.
We have 5 people in the thread and only his texts come through separately. Happened to me with the Note 2 and Note 3
Only fix that worked for me was downloading a third party SMS app(Textra worked well on the Note 2 and fixed the issue.. But Textra doesnt work well with the Note 3) Stock messenger stinks
Maybe Chomp SMS or Go SMS will fix the issue too?

Shockg911 said:
Yup, happens with me and my brother.
We have 5 people in the thread and only his texts come through separately. Happened to me with the Note 2 and Note 3
Only fix that worked for me was downloading a third party SMS app(Textra worked well on the Note 2 and fixed the issue.. But Textra doesnt work well with the Note 3) Stock messenger stinks
Maybe Chomp SMS or Go SMS will fix the issue too?
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I tried GoSMS, No luck. What network are you and your brother on? Also what phone does he have?

systoxity said:
I tried GoSMS, No luck. What network are you and your brother on? Also what phone does he have?
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Im on Tmobile and hes on Verizon.
I am the only one having that issue. Honestly, Group MMS has been buggy the past few days for me. My phone is sending out blank messages once in a while. PITA
Textra has just updated their app and its working pretty well with the Note 3 now.
With Textra, I dont have the group mms issue that you and I are/were having.
Try Textra and see what happens

I have issues too, its def my phone as my friends all have iphone 5s except me and it worked perfect with my S4. Out of every 10 group texts I get, I would say 3 of them show as an mms from the separate party that never changes to a group message because its unable to download the mms. I feel this phone was rushed by tmobile to get it out
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Shockg911 said:
Im on Tmobile and hes on Verizon.
I am the only one having that issue. Honestly, Group MMS has been buggy the past few days for me. My phone is sending out blank messages once in a while. PITA
Textra has just updated their app and its working pretty well with the Note 3 now.
With Textra, I dont have the group mms issue that you and I are/were having.
Try Textra and see what happens
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I just tried textra, seems like a cool app but maybe I have a setting wrong but when I sent a group text, it sends a text to each individual person, not as a group, it looks like its sending a group text on my end....same goes for their reply, when they reply it just shows them replying to me...all my iphone friends think its there phone, but i know its mine hahah

PolishDude said:
I have issues too, its def my phone as my friends all have iphone 5s except me and it worked perfect with my S4. Out of every 10 group texts I get, I would say 3 of them show as an mms from the separate party that never changes to a group message because its unable to download the mms. I feel this phone was rushed by tmobile to get it out
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I just tried textra, seems like a cool app but maybe I have a setting wrong but when I sent a group text, it sends a text to each individual person, not as a group, it looks like its sending a group text on my end....same goes for their reply, when they reply it just shows them replying to me...all my iphone friends think its there phone, but i know its mine hahah
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Make sure you click "Use MMS for Group Chats"
If that doesnt do it, also click "Activate Mobile Data" too.
Settings>MMS Settings>Activate Mobile Data
I have both of them clicked on my phone and it works pretty well. Not as good as it did on my Note 2, but better than the stock messenger.

Shockg911 said:
Make sure you click "Use MMS for Group Chats"
If that doesnt do it, also click "Activate Mobile Data" too.
Settings>MMS Settings>Activate Mobile Data
I have both of them clicked on my phone and it works pretty well. Not as good as it did on my Note 2, but better than the stock messenger.
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Thank you. It's disappointing that the stock messaging app is buggy. I'll resort to textra if a custom rom doesn't fix it.

Shockg911 said:
Im on Tmobile and hes on Verizon.
I am the only one having that issue. Honestly, Group MMS has been buggy the past few days for me. My phone is sending out blank messages once in a while. PITA
Textra has just updated their app and its working pretty well with the Note 3 now.
With Textra, I dont have the group mms issue that you and I are/were having.
Try Textra and see what happens
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Same issue here. My and my friend both have the note 3. I am on tmo he is on verizon. His message to our group chat comes to me in our private chat.
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Killer annoying
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Another friend of mine has the note 3 on Verizon and in the same group chat I mentioned previous, his messages now come to our individual chat.
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Anyone find a solution for this? I'm in a group chat with 8 people and one of them keeps getting separated. We tried making a new chat and still, and everyone else gets his just fine. This also happened with two different group chats with completely other people.
It seems that in every group chat, one person gets left out. Happens on any chat client I use.
Sorry for the bump, only thread I've found that's spot on with my issue.

Bumping again in hopes of an answer because I too am having a problem conducting group messaging.
My Note 3, two Galaxy S3s and an iPhone 5, but we discovered today that it is originating with me. I checked the message details on all the messages I tried to send through group messaging and found something odd. When I start or respond to a group message, MY messages always go out with "unknown" in the "To" field and all the receipients are "CC'd", so when they reply to my message, it comes back only to me as an individual message. Everyone else's messages that DO show up in the group message on my phone all have everyone in the "To" field. Everyone checked their phones and all group messages that they send have everyone listed in the "To" field. I am the ONLY one whose messages go out with "unknown" in the "To" field and all receipients in the "CC" field. I can remove everyone's name and add them again before I send and it STILL goes out like that. And I can't figure out a setting or anything that stops my messages from even having a "CC" field.
So my Note 3 is junking up our group messaging and it has GOT to be a Note 3 issue originating with Samsung because I'm on Verizon and I see others posting here are on other networks.
It's probably some app I disabled that has to be enabled for group messaging to work on my phone. I say that because I kept getting an error message when trying to access my stock email app for my Exchange email whenever I had a new email after I disabled the My Magazine app. Once I re-enabled it, the error messages stopped. (Found that fix elsewhere on this forum :good

[Q] Text messages from one contact blank on wifes and my Note 4 using stock app

[Q] On both my Note 4 (rooted running hybrid X 2.0 lollipop 5.01) and my wife's Note 4 (rooted running Hybrid X lollipop 5.1.1) in group text messages most of the texts from her brother are blank. They have his name but no message. A few will come through and if he sends a message to just one of us it works. It does not matter if he has a picture attached or just plain text. He is on Verizon and has been to one of their stores to see if the problem was on his end. They said it must be on our Sprint end, of course.
I have deleted his contact on both our phones and re-added it and still get blank messages from him when he replies to a group message. A few will slip through where we see his text but most are just his name with the body of the message blank. This does not happen with any other contact regardless of carrier. I have been through all the settings in the stock app and changed things one at a time but nothing there fixes the problem. Googling turned up a few with similar issues but with no suggestions that fixed our problem. All the others in the group message get his replies every time.
Any ideas on a fix? It must be rare because searches do not find much that is similar.
Thanks

Would he and the others happen to have iphones? I've read somewhere there can be issues like that between some Android and some iphones.

Nope, he has a Droid Turbo v5.1. Others with iPhone seem to work it's just texts from this one brother.

David.Dunbar said:
Nope, he has a Droid Turbo v5.1. Others with iPhone seem to work it's just texts from this one brother.
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If he's the only one then... Perhaps he could try a different message app. It's a strange issue.

SMS settings missing in Verizon S8+

I originally ordered and used the S8+ on T-Mobile. I wasn't happy with the service, returned the device after using it for a week and a half and went back to Verizon and i'm noticing differences between the 2 different carrier phone model (which i expected to see).
The S8+ on T-Mobile allowed me send SMS messages (using the native Samsung Message app) that were as long as i wanted and they did not get broken up. On my new Verizon S8+ all incoming and outgoing messages are cut up and sent individually. On the T-Mobile version, there were settings in the Message app to change the different SMS settings and coding and that are missing on the Verizon model. I even enabled and used the terrible Verizon Messages app to see if i could make changes there, but there were no options there either.
Does anyone know how this can be fixed, or better yet, if it CAN be fixed? It's kind of frustrating. And Google provided no help except threads like this that were started and never completed with an answer.

Welcome to Verizon wireless

SimplyNando said:
I originally ordered and used the S8+ on T-Mobile. I wasn't happy with the service, returned the device after using it for a week and a half and went back to Verizon and i'm noticing differences between the 2 different carrier phone model (which i expected to see).
The S8+ on T-Mobile allowed me send SMS messages (using the native Samsung Message app) that were as long as i wanted and they did not get broken up. On my new Verizon S8+ all incoming and outgoing messages are cut up and sent individually. On the T-Mobile version, there were settings in the Message app to change the different SMS settings and coding and that are missing on the Verizon model. I even enabled and used the terrible Verizon Messages app to see if i could make changes there, but there were no options there either.
Does anyone know how this can be fixed, or better yet, if it CAN be fixed? It's kind of frustrating. And Google provided no help except threads like this that were started and never completed with an answer.
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You could try a different texting app. I use Textra and it gives you some options for split SMS. It may or may not solve your issue.

-Alan said:
Welcome to Verizon wireless
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Yeah i'm noticing all of the nice little quirks now
The thing is i had them before for a few years and had the S5, S6 and iPhones, but i never had this problem with any of them. "Superior" network with annoying compromises.

Smithfolk4 said:
You could try a different texting app. I use Textra and it gives you some options for split SMS. It may or may not solve your issue.
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I'll give that one a try. I switched to Android Messages and i think it's solved, haven't gotten to test it too much with non-iPhone users.

Smithfolk4 said:
You could try a different texting app. I use Textra and it gives you some options for split SMS. It may or may not solve your issue.
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I love Textra but not working for me. I have the Verizon S8+ on Tmobile. Can only get stock and the Verizon Messaging app to work. Textra does not work for me at all, especiaally sending photos.....

ScottBroker said:
I love Textra but not working for me. I have the Verizon S8+ on Tmobile. Can only get stock and the Verizon Messaging app to work. Textra does not work for me at all, especiaally sending photos.....
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That sucks. I know that SMS and MMS can be tricky. May have something to do with carriers. I have had to mess around with using different ones in different situations. I was using Chomp for a while with good results, but had to swap to Textra which has been doing well for me for my last 2 phones. Using Verizon on Verizon.

ScottBroker said:
I love Textra but not working for me. I have the Verizon S8+ on Tmobile. Can only get stock and the Verizon Messaging app to work. Textra does not work for me at all, especiaally sending photos.....
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I've been using it for 2 days now and i love the app, but it still doesn't fix my issues unfortunately. Still receiving a bunch of mixed up messages

SimplyNando said:
I originally ordered and used the S8+ on T-Mobile. I wasn't happy with the service, returned the device after using it for a week and a half and went back to Verizon and i'm noticing differences between the 2 different carrier phone model (which i expected to see).
The S8+ on T-Mobile allowed me send SMS messages (using the native Samsung Message app) that were as long as i wanted and they did not get broken up. On my new Verizon S8+ all incoming and outgoing messages are cut up and sent individually. On the T-Mobile version, there were settings in the Message app to change the different SMS settings and coding and that are missing on the Verizon model. I even enabled and used the terrible Verizon Messages app to see if i could make changes there, but there were no options there either.
Does anyone know how this can be fixed, or better yet, if it CAN be fixed? It's kind of frustrating. And Google provided no help except threads like this that were started and never completed with an answer.
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I am not having that issue. When someone send me a long message, it actually turn into an mms and I'm seeing it as 1 long message.

I also don't like the Verizon app, I want to use the native app. My native app works but the latest update wakes the screen on incoming SMS every single time no way to shut off. Very annoying, stuck using Verizon app for now as well. Have posted a thread here about that https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/screen-wake-incoming-sms-verizon-s8-t3594258 Also have opened a ticket with Samsung about that issued and Verizon community. Will see if it gets fixed with OTA patch. I have seen this before on beta builds on S7 edge, very annoying.
Also noticed they locked out the engineering menu, I mean come on Verizon. While I like the network way way way better than Sprint, this thing is locked and locked again.

I have been using the Android Messages app for a couple months now on my HTC M9. Just got this S8+ about a week ago. Hate the Samsung messages app. No individualized options for each person. The Verizon SMS app... well, it's the Verizon app, enough said. I have really liked the Android Messages on this now. No problems with sending short or long texts, or sending media. Seems to work the best out of all i've seen with the most options or features.

Does anyone know if Verizon killed RCS messaging features in the stock Samsung messages app? I'm not getting read receipts, typing notifications etc
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bajasur said:
Does anyone know if Verizon killed RCS messaging features in the stock Samsung messages app? I'm not getting read receipts, typing notifications etc
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I don't think Verizon supports RCS messaging, last i read they had no plans to implement it. Also, i don't remember Samsung having support for it either. I could be wrong, but that's what i remember.

bajasur said:
Does anyone know if Verizon killed RCS messaging features in the stock Samsung messages app? I'm not getting read receipts, typing notifications etc
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Those options only work in the Verizon messaging app, it may only be limited to others also using the Verizon messaging app to message you, maybe someone can test it to verify. But I can indeed verify typing notifications and read receipts do working in the Verizon messaging app.

What's crazy is the other carriers support RCS messaging.... Like tmobile
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bajasur said:
What's crazy is the other carriers support RCS messaging.... Like tmobile
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AT&T does as well, but it's limited to within the carrier. Same for T-Mobile. And Verizon has it in their Messages+ app (which sucks).

Activate RCS messaging on any phone!

Hi guys. I know this is not Note 10 specific but it's great news nonetheless. Someone figured out how to activate RCS messaging and it works. ?
For those who don't know what RCS is, it's basically like iMessage for Android.
Here is the 9 to 5 Google article: https://9to5google.com/2019/10/26/enable-rcs-android-messages/
And here is a tutorial from Jeff Springer over on YouTube:
Spread the news guys it should work on any Android phone carrier. I'm currently in Canada and got it to work.
Enjoy?

confirm, working :good: :good:

Got it working on my Verizon note 10+

I got it working too...I think. Don't know anyone else with it haha

configured as well on my ATT Note 10+; however, replies to group messaging arrived as separate (or new) text messages and not part of the group. Fix for me was to disable the option to "Use WiFi data for messaging when available". Anyone else experience similar behavior? Thanks.

mrlugo88 said:
I got it working too...I think. Don't know anyone else with it haha
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True lol

Works in Malaysia too. But no one here is using it.

Couldn't activate it here in Iran
Stuck in verifying my phone!
Edit: nope it's working and connected!
But no one is using it

I was able to do it on my Samsung-direct unlocked SD Note 10+ on T-Mobile, but when I restarted my phone later it went away and isn't coming back even when replicating the steps. It now says your carrier doesn't support this feature when I go into the Message app settings. I have the Carrier Settings app downloaded from Play Store as well.

Got it connected here. Followed the directions but had some issues with the phone number verification stage. Disabling wifi and trying again helped.
I am not sure if it is actually working though. Every message I send is either a sms or mms, even if I send it back to myself. At least one of my friends it should be going through as a chat message.

scottusa2008 said:
Got it connected here. Followed the directions but had some issues with the phone number verification stage. Disabling wifi and trying again helped.
I am not sure if it is actually working though. Every message I send is either a sms or mms, even if I send it back to myself. At least one of my friends it should be going through as a chat message.
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You can't send to yourself. Just ask your friend to enable it.

why is all this hype about the RCS? we already have tons of instant messaging apps (most importantly WhatsApp) that surpass the RCS in many ways.

From Romania and got it to work ! N976B

Weird.. I'm on T-Mobile and it's been working for me up to this point.. Now things are being sent as SMS all of a sudden. Still shows as connected though.. Weird..
Never mind.. My buddy I was messaging must be having issues. He's on Sprint but has been able to use RCS without any hacks and using the default Samsung Messaging app .. Weird.

so you never had it before? I had this since the start of the year. My son's Note 9, my wife's and daughter's S10 and my N10+ has this without jumping through those hoops. Just download google messages, it gives an option for RCS and that's it.
All our phones are unlocked Snapdragons so I'm not sure if that matters but you all should just download the google messages app first before doing all that crap for RCS.

I tried it and it worked on my Note 10+ but for some reason my son using his iphone 11 Pro Max couldn't send me any pictures through text and wasn't receiving any i sent.. I switched back to the stock Samsung message app and we could both send and receive txt and pictures?? I'm guessing AT&T has setup as I can send a txt to my buddy using my Note 10+ and I believe he has Galaxy s10 and using the stock messaging app I can see when its delivered, read, and when he types..

Working for me. But I got nobody use it with so far
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Thanks, even if a would rather have RCS with the native app.

For some reason for the life of me I can't get this to work. Anybody have any tips or tricks. I have read the instructions over and over again and still can't get it to work.

after set up and working, can activity launcher be uninstalled?

Double text messages: Red Magic 5G issue or Android issue?

So I have had my Red Magic 5G Pulse Version for two weeks now and I have been experiencing a very frustrating issue when it comes to group messaging with this phone.
It might be hard to explain, but whenever my friends start a group chat, my phone number appears on in the group list, which isn't correct since the group list should only be showing my friends and not my phone number. Whenever I try to send a message within that group chat, my message ends up showing up twice on my screen, one from me and one from my separate phone number, causing two version of my messages to appear. Apparently, the second message only appears for me and not my friends. I also do not get any issues when I try to start a group chat with my friends, as my phone number does not appear separately within the list of users when I create the group. This only happens when a friend starts the group chat.
I have tried multiple things in an attempt to fix the situation. I have tried resetting the data and cache for my messenger app. I have tried resetting the phone number within the messenger app. I have tried factory resetting my phone. Nothing has worked to fix the double text message issued.
Big thing to note that I previously used a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite as my phone and have been using an AT&T prepaid sim card with that phone. I never had any issues with group texts using that phone. The issue only started when I transferred my sim card from my Mi A2 Lite to this new Reg Magic 5G. I may have reason to believe that the sim card or my service with AT&T is causing these issues, and I will try and see if they can help me out here, but I am curious to know if any Red Magic 5G users are having this issue with group texting. Last thing to note: I am using the default Google messaging app that comes with the phone.

Mikedot said:
So I have had my Red Magic 5G Pulse Version for two weeks now and I have been experiencing a very frustrating issue when it comes to group messaging with this phone.
It might be hard to explain, but whenever my friends start a group chat, my phone number appears on in the group list, which isn't correct since the group list should only be showing my friends and not my phone number. Whenever I try to send a message within that group chat, my message ends up showing up twice on my screen, one from me and one from my separate phone number, causing two version of my messages to appear. Apparently, the second message only appears for me and not my friends. I also do not get any issues when I try to start a group chat with my friends, as my phone number does not appear separately within the list of users when I create the group. This only happens when a friend starts the group chat.
I have tried multiple things in an attempt to fix the situation. I have tried resetting the data and cache for my messenger app. I have tried resetting the phone number within the messenger app. I have tried factory resetting my phone. Nothing has worked to fix the double text message issued.
Big thing to note that I previously used a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite as my phone and have been using an AT&T prepaid sim card with that phone. I never had any issues with group texts using that phone. The issue only started when I transferred my sim card from my Mi A2 Lite to this new Reg Magic 5G. I may have reason to believe that the sim card or my service with AT&T is causing these issues, and I will try and see if they can help me out here, but I am curious to know if any Red Magic 5G users are having this issue with group texting. Last thing to note: I am using the default Google messaging app that comes with the phone.
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Are you using Google messages or some other app? I tried to create a group conversation in Google messages. And checked group info and I was not there. Only 3 of the other member showed. So I could not reproduce the issue you mentioned.
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Yes, I am using the default Google messaging app. No other messaging apps are installed on my phone.

Mikedot said:
Yes, I am using the default Google messaging app. No other messaging apps are installed on my phone.
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I can confirm I don't have the issue in NA rom. Atleast not in 8-128 black model. Probably it's only in pulse?
Edit: I don't have rcs so probably rcs is the issue?
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Oh, I never even heard about RCS until now, so that may be a possibility. I will turn off the chat features and test my group chats again.

Mikedot said:
Oh, I never even heard about RCS until now, so that may be a possibility. I will turn off the chat features and test my group chats again.
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I don't think it's a good idea. Your chat features work based on rcs. Else they will just be sms and you will be charged a lot. Don't do that.
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Well, what else would you suggest? I have tried mostly everything else at this point.

Mikedot said:
Well, what else would you suggest? I have tried mostly everything else at this point.
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I am sorry I really don't have a solution. If you are ok with spending some money. You could disable chat features and reset the messages app and create a new group then test sms once to confirm if the rcs is the issue. Then maybe send a bug report to Google. Other than that I really don't know what can be done.
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Yeah, well I should be okay in that regard, since my prepaid service at least comes with unlimited texting. I only have some data to work with but for the sake of testing, I should be fine.

Mikedot said:
Yeah, well I should be okay in that regard, since my prepaid service at least comes with unlimited texting. I only have some data to work with but for the sake of testing, I should be fine.
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Good luck. Hope it works out. Sorry could not help.
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Bumping this. I got my phone back and even with the new update from Nubia, I am still having trouble with group texting.
This thread topic is basically what I have been dealing with. https://support.google.com/messages/thread/977504?hl=en
I have tried multiple things in an attempt to fix the issue, and from the looks of things that it seems to be a device/software issue, which wouldn't be much of a surprise since the software for this phone is pretty terrible.

Might just be your sim card. I get double messages when my sim is near death.