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Question about "Pro" version

Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!

First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.

Arushidesu said:
First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.
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Really thanks!

It's more likely the global version of the RN5[WHYRED] going by camera specs, the version with the Pro extension is only sold in India!

simon3sce said:
Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!
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PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE

raptorddd said:
PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE
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This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.

peter-k said:
This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.
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right i forgot about apperture LOL.. but yes i think AI is better at low light but pro takes better pictures.. anyways he should be getting the AI.

Thanks to all of you! I decided to buy the RN5, because it has a better processor, a good camera (I think the A1 camera is a little better, but this is still good), but especially because of the great battery.

Question Xiaomi Poco F3 vs Samsung a52

Hello all,
Jason here,
Few days ago my redmi note 4 has died because of spoiled IC.
So I was wondering to get either Poco F3 or Samsung a52.
Do state the pros and cons of the selection
Usage
- Play game like brawl star, but quitting soon. as it is getting boring. After that not into gaming anymore
- Smooth display as I dont like the lagging when surfing the web or switching between apps
- Battery life must be good
- Storage must be good, as I have quite a number of apps wanting to download and test out.
- Camera should be decent ( If it is not , installing gcam should solve the problem i guess ) [Need some insight on this] ???
- Able to stand at least 3-4 years
- must support AR Core
Thank You.
Regards,
Jason

I'd suggest the POCO F3 because of the Snapdragon 870. Had the same question and I will go for the F3.

I'd suggest F3, too.
I'm not a gamer, but this phone will probably be a worthy successor of my current OnePlus One (and obviously of the Pocophone F1).

- Play game like brawl star, but quitting soon. as it is getting boring. After that not into gaming anymore (Poco f3, flagship range SoC)
- Smooth display as I dont like the lagging when surfing the web or switching between apps (Neck and neck, both have 120Hz with poco f3 having a brighter screen)
- Battery life must be good (neck and neck again, both have similiar sized batteries, but suspect the A52 would do better by 10-20%)
- Storage must be good, as I have quite a number of apps wanting to download and test out. (UFS 3.1 on Poco F3, Samsung didn't mention, so assume Poco F3 as winner)
- Camera should be decent ( If it is not , installing gcam should solve the problem i guess ) [Need some insight on this] ??? (Samsung is better, but the Poco stands near. GCAM is going to take awhile to be implemented for the Poco, as it's a pretty new SoC)
- Able to stand at least 3-4 years (no comments on this, can't guarantee build quality nowadays)
- must support AR Core (Samsung A52 confirmed support, no information on Poco yet)
check this short opinion from Dave2D

ahh okay, wish me luck to get the Poco F3 tonight, I missed out yesterday~
Stay tuned ~

Jason_Lim said:
ahh okay, wish me luck to get the Poco F3 tonight, I missed out yesterday~
Stay tuned ~
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Where are you buying Poco f3?
For international shipping, I only found in Aliexpress, but the start sale will happen in 29 of march.

Fabio Bertelli said:
Where are you buying Poco f3?
For international shipping, I only found in Aliexpress, but the start sale will happen in 29 of march.
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Mine is just pre order though, too bad the Poco F3 dint restock

An overlooked aspect of F3 is the vibration motor. It is the more expensive motor used in Mi 10T Pro and Mi 11. Which offers great haptic feedback. Samsung use a cheaper motor in A52 and A72.
F3 is better than A52 without any question.

flipp0 said:
An overlooked aspect of F3 is the vibration motor. It is the more expensive motor used in Mi 10T Pro and Mi 11. Which offers great haptic feedback. Samsung use a cheaper motor in A52 and A72.
F3 is better than A52 without any question.
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Ahh what is the use of the vibration motor ??
Btw is the 6GB + 128GB enough ??? For 3 - 4 years usage ??
As the 8gb + 256Gb out of stock

Well at my country Samsung S20 FE and Oneplus 8T costs almost like Pocophone F3...
I'm not sure what I should get, I'm not gaming much.

Question Poco F3 vs Mi 10t/10t pro

Assalam Alaykom​​Hello Everybody​
I id like to ask about F3 an d how is it compared to mi10t /10tpro
I have been confused between them
Thanks in advance
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POCO F3 Vs MI10T

Basically. MI10T has SD 865, Better Camera and Battery. It also has a 144hz IPS LCD Screen. Something I am not really a fan of.
While POCO F3 is powered by SD 870. an E4 120hz AMOLED.
I'd go with Poco F3. I already bought one. it's on the way. Better performance with a cheaper price.

Atasal said:
Assalam Alaykom​​Hello Everybody​
I id like to ask about F3 an d how is it compared to mi10t /10tpro
I have been confused between them
Thanks in advance
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You can always check for the basic comparison for phones in versus, where I always use it to compare my F3.
Use the below link;
Xiaomi Mi 10T vs Xiaomi Poco F3: What is the difference?
What is the difference between Xiaomi Mi 10T and Xiaomi Poco F3? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the smartphone ranking.
versus.com

What I advise you is to wait for redmi 11 models. It seems like they will appear soon.

Among the three I prefer f3, no doubt!

owning a poco F3, I am really happy with it cuz I've got it for less than 400 euros for the 256 version, it is very smooth and pleasant to use but if you can get a mi10t pro for the same price the last one will be a better deal. Soc is more or less the same (a tad slower), but camera will be way better, a'd you won't have proximity sensor issue which is a pain in the ass and a big drawback on this phone. I don't understand how xiaomi can sell a phone on which this basic function is not reliable. also stock rom on poco F3 is loaded with bloatware.

Coming from a Oneplus 5T

Is worth it change my phone to a Mi 10t lite ?

I send my Poco F2 pro and keep , Redmi note pro 9 5g! Its not so important CPU . there is no big difference , but the rest, fresh rate , 108 mpx camera, fingerprint sensor on side.. phone is awesome for me .. I win it on Mi community on same game , and I got Chinese version. I was thought that I will get regular note 9 pro , and start looking for buyers to sell ,but when I open the box and see 9pro 5g, totally change my mind.
i was have Poco f2 pro about 6 monts and it sas time to move on.. this is the first 730g series CPu that I get but do the job,it not so import , camera is a beast...and thats why I like a like it ...

JvDsN said:
Is worth it change my phone to a Mi 10t lite ?
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get realme x7 max instead

saifsuse said:
get realme x7 max instead
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Realme's are terrible at unlocking bootloader, custom Roms and Rooting in my experience.

Ham_is_here said:
Realme's are terrible at unlocking bootloader, custom Roms and Rooting in my experience.
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these mi phone with their heavily skinned stock rom are not making any sense after installing a custom rom or rooting as its not increasing any performance and more over that its causing more trouble than solving a few. it makes more sense to stick with a minimalistic stock rom providing brand.

saifsuse said:
these mi phone with their heavily skinned stock rom are not making any sense after installing a custom rom or rooting as its not increasing any performance and more over that its causing more trouble than solving a few. it makes more sense to stick with a minimalistic stock rom providing brand.
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How can you justify not having better performance in custom ROMs with MI devices?
I'm running a Mi10i. I hate MIUI because of how bloated it is. And unresponsive.
Switching over to something like AOSP really did help the device maintain its speed and battery life.

Question F3 - Worth it?

I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?

proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice

venomus001 said:
proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice
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But you have devices like OnePlus 9R or maybe some Realme or something..
OP has better software
I have some previous device at my home and with same issue after ton of updates so.. Xiaomi doesnt fixed the problems..

oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny

venomus001 said:
oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny
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The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?

SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.

venomus001 said:
if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.
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I didnt told that I want clean software...

SlideCan said:
I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?
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Depends, if you plan to play heavy game (genshin impact for example), it's a perfect "budget" phone. But if playing isn't your primary goal, there are better globally phone.

Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).

Nemix77 said:
Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).
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Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.

Greenspoof said:
Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.
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My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.

Nemix77 said:
My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.
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How much I need to spend more for the both things?
Not take pictures a lot but yeah play games.
I read that the proximity sensor is hardware problem.
Maybe OnePlus 9R for better software and without bugs?

I don't get all the fuzz about the proximity sensor. It's "weird" in that it combines accelerometer and camera, but it does work, unless you make phone calls while lying down on the bed. I've had no issues with it whatsoever.

OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.

Nemix77 said:
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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He has Dolby, my girlfriend has the redmi note 10 pro, and there is indeed Dolby equaliser installed

Nemix77 said:
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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So maybe 9R worth it? yeah that is 100$ more but you got better software..
But if you got the 9R.. you can added 100$ more and got the regular Oneplus 9... so..

Write down your reason to buy new phone.
Write your need in priority order, we are not you, we don't know your situation. Worth or not is subjective.
Camera, SoC, local price of phone, warranty, system update, community, reason to buy phone, where you live, budget limit ... etc.
Remember, no compare no despair. Get use to phone you buy.
Suggest you buy all, Poco F3 + OnePlus 9R + OnePlus 9. Worth? Yes worth, 2 for me and you keep one. Worth for me.

SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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You have the option of stopping some adds, uncheck all kinds of miui optimization, referrence, suggestion, feedback, also some option ull find in developer mode. I have done it in mu Poco F1, didnt find a single add in 2years of use. I havent bought the F3 yet but hopefully its the same principle. You can remove bloatware via xiaomi fastboot tool. U dont need to unlock the bootloader.

It seems mostly that you're searching reasons to not get the Poco F3 instead of asking if is worth or not
In your case, get a OnePlus 9R/9 or a Pixel phone and you will be fine, their software is easily a ton better that Xiaomi MIUI and they shouldn't have the issues you mentioned either (Proximity sensor and ads)

I agree, he's nitpicking at the flaws of phone instead of thinking of what he needs in a phone and comparing it with the competition.
There's no perfect phone out there regardless of money and just for record, "I don't like Apple products".