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Redmi Note 5 Pro - 20MP 6Gb Ram.....Band 20(800)?!

Hello everyone,
I would be interested in the version with the 20mp camera and 6gb of ram.
Unfortunately I noticed that this version is not sold with the banada 20 (800) and is only in the CN version.
Do you expect me to wait? do you think will release the version that I would like to take?
Or I take the CN version trying to put the International / Global ROM and to unlock the band 20 (800)?
What do you recommend?
Thank you

Using a global rom does not "unlock" B20. Global version and global rom is not the same thing. Unfortunately people keep getting confused about that. (Well I mean it is confusing to a general user.)
Chinese version (of the device) comes with the bands they use, the hardware it has does not support B20. You have to wait until Xiaomi release the global version of the device, then you'll have the B20 you need.
As far as I know global version of the rom is only global because it contains all the languages, not just chinese (correct me if I am wrong).

There are some good news
https://mobile.twitter.com/rquandt/status/973921734268276736?ref_

Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)

Bib_x said:
Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)
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The chance that mi note 3 gets band 20 is near zero. Mi note 3 is also missing 3.5mm jack and there is nearly no development.
For 270€ the note 5 pro would be perfect for me, every other phone has some deal breakers like no development, small battery or something else

Hello everyone, I'm sorry to reopen this discussion but ...... is it possible that they sold this version: "xiaomi redmi note 5 6gb (Cam 12 + 5/13) with band 20 (800)?"

sorry to bring this thread up again but I'm looking for the 6GB/64GB redmi note 5 version myself. (not for me though).
pdadb does list it as band 20 here:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...te_64gb_meg7s__xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
but all sites who sell them don't list enough specifications if its truly the global version.
so this is all really confusing. I don't want to end up ordering a 6GB version without Band 20.
can anyone find any indication that the following sites has the correct version?
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xia...nch-6GB-64GB-Smartphone-Rose-Gold-393535.html
(yes needs to be rose gold. it will be a present.)
also does anyone know what image sensor the devices comes with?

I have the same problem.
I would like to take this LINK version but I do not find feedback on the internet.
6gb ram with band 20 (800) ?! does anyone know if this version really exists?

Guys I am not sure but I think the global version with band 20, it comes only with 3/4 GB ram

how to check if the phone really has the hardware and facility to support those mentioned GSM, LTE bands etc?

3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...

Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?

gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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Its good...i mean i notice no difference between galasy s8 and note 5 pro..i am using bose qc20.... i mean i am really impressed....
I have the black version.... Case is a must...so you wont notice the back.... But its solid good build..not some wobley design...its really sturdy.

Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.

gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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jdwis said:
I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.
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Sorry but its chinese model flashed with global rom.. no band 20. Read description of the sale....it clearly says so...i know alli very well...
Thanks for effort.

A3 Let's talk

Here are the specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a3-9769.php
What is your opinion, is this a good or bad choice ?
That moment when you record with selfie camera 1080p but your display can show only 720p
Do you think there will be A3 Pro ?

In my opinion Mi A3 is a step backwards.
MI A2 has a better display and a better SOC despite the fact that it's an year older. In-display fingerprint scanner and wide lens are good additions but simply it's not enough. Having an HD+ display in 2019 in a mid-range smartphone is crazy. Snapdragon 665 is worse compared to SD 660 in terms of Gpu performance. Very disappointed by Xiaomi.

Totally dissapointed. I will keep my Mi A2 with 6/128 gb.

I'm also disappointed with the A3 specs the cc9 on which it's based gets the 710 processor and 6gb ram so why is the A3 getting less? I'm still running an A1 which I've loved for 2years was hoping this would be an easy choice.
I'm also trying out Havoc on a mi pad 4 might end up with a Chinese market phone that havoc supports......

I have an A1 and was hoping that A3 would be a no brainer for me. I guess i'll stick with it for a while now... 720p screen is a no-go.
Let's wait and see if there will be any "Pro" version of this phone.. Even A2 Lite has a full hd screen.

Mi A1 still a decent device for me. It doesn't really look like an upgrade
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Mi A1 still a decent device for me. It doesn't really look like an upgrade

Best smartphone under 300 PPI

I don't really care about the capacity, S660 is still good for me, but I've expected NFC on Mi A3 for Google Pay... :crying::crying:

victoray said:
I don't really care about the capacity, S660 is still good for me, but I've expected NFC on Mi A3 for Google Pay... :crying::crying:
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They put the stupid infrared port instead of a NFC sensor. It cost nothing. Also 720p display.
It is a 2012 phone for 250 euros!

What about battery life? It must be interesting. 720p amoled display + 4000mah battery + energy-saver chipset must be good for longer battery life. A cant found any battery life test, and sot time info so far...

jlmcr87 said:
Totally dissapointed. I will keep my Mi A2 with 6/128 gb.
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I have the 4/64 variant, but still going to keep, one year and mi a4.

GedeonTaylor said:
I have the 4/64 variant, but still going to keep, one year and mi a4.
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Beware, Mi A4 is rumored to have a 480p display

technoboi1 said:
What about battery life? It must be interesting. 720p amoled display + 4000mah battery + energy-saver chipset must be good for longer battery life. A cant found any battery life test, and sot time info so far...
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This. I'd take one if it has good battery optimization (*cough* mi8 w/ miui 10). I'll take better battery life + super amoled over higher res screen anyday.
Unless your usage revolves around an app/site that doesn't support zooming (ie. gmail), 720 vs 1080p has no noticeable difference.
source: current phones: mi8, a1, axon 7 mini, mi4c, nexus 4.

sipollo said:
Beware, Mi A4 is rumored to have a 480p display
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??

I hope cam2api comes enabled by default this time.

natanfranghieru said:
I hope cam2api comes enabled by default this time.
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Yes its enabled, i saw one video where was checked Manual Camera Compatibilty app
Im thinking about ordering, but i need infos about battery life, but nothing was found yet

Ordered one (64GB)today on Gearvita for 237USD = 212€ with shipping to Germany. If somebody is interested, you get this price only with coupon code "ROMiA364G" wich you enter during checkout. Original price is much higher. I come from A2 and hope for much better Camera (perheps with Goggle Camera if API2 really enabled) and better battery life...

since on GSMarena Mi A3 and Mi CC9e compare almost equal, I wonder if the 128/6 GB CC9e would be able to run Mi A3 Android One and Mi A3 firmware. I also wonder if Mi A3 and Mi CC9e are A/B devices regardless of internal storage size.

@Dior DNA
Like previous generations, the MIUI counterpart (in this case, Mi CC9e) has legacy A-only partitioning scheme whereas the Android One variant has A/B one. Frankenbuilding should be possible, but complete conversion is a complicated job.

i think it's a marketing stunt - and if it's not, i feel real sorry for them. it's still a lousy move on their part.... as soon as they've pushed a first batch of converted cc9e-s (aka mi a3) they will magically release a mi a3 pro based on the standard cc9 which will be an awesome phone. it fixes everything bad in the mi a3. (screen, nfc better soc) while still keeping everything that's nice about the third gen android one. amoled, big battery.
even if they dont release it, if the cc9 gets good developer support (considering the sources are already out i hope it will) it's gonna be my next go to phone.
L.E. they only reason i see that they didnt use the cc9 is politics. with those specs it would directly compete with the pixel 3a at half the price.

Which phone is the best option for me, the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite or the Xiaomi Poco X3?

My previous phone is no longer fixable and that means I've to search for a other phone.
After a some time of searching work, I have now these two phones left at the list:
- Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite
- Xiaomi Poco X3
My requirements for the phone is:
- A free unlockable bootloader
- A price no higher then €320,00
- 128GB storage
- A good camera (I've a Instagram account and I post pictures there and because I want good quality pictures)
- More then 3000mah battery
- Good performance (Especially gaming)
- Running Android
I've watches many video's and readed many articles but I can't still decide which phone, so some advice is appreciated.
I readed that the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite has a bad microlens camera and the camera feels sluggish, maybe someone here uses a Xiaomi Mi10T Lite and can tell me if it's true.
And the Xiaomi Poco X3 doesn't support 5G so it's less futureproof, because I expect to use the phone for some years I expect that 5G will be commonly avaible in my country then (The Netherlands)
I'm also impressed by by the latter and the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite is the same in terms of performance as the Xiaomi Poco X3, but I'm very confused right now.
So the big question is, which phone is the best option for me if you look at my requirements?

I have zero experience with X3 (NFC), but 10T lite sounds like it ticks all your boxes. Macro camera is a joke (no autofocus), but it doesn't really bother me, I simply don't use it.
You can find some comparison between 10T lite and X3 in this Russian forum (use Google translate), the general consensus is that 10T lite is improved X3. And upcoming X3 PRO will be improved 10T lite.. I think that at the end it comes to the cost - if you're money's tight, go with X3, if you can get a good deal on 10T lite, buy 10T lite.

Update: I've chosen the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite 128GB as my next phone.
It has a better processor as the Xiaomi Poco X3 128GB, although the latter has a smaller battery capacity I find performance more important than battery capacity so I don't really mind using a phone with a smaller battery capacity if I get a better performance in exchange.
That means the question is now answered so thank you for your help!
However, if my sister finds it too expensive and tells me she can't order that phone then it will be the Xiaomi Poco X3. (I'm only 17 years old and I'm not allowed to order stuff on my own)

Update: I received my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite and I can say that I'm very impressed.
I'm amazed by it's battery life, camera and performance.
120hz is very smooth.
I had to first get used to MIUI because it's kinda different from the other Android UI's but I'm satisfied now.
MIUI is a very beautiful UI imo.

Very nice, you can get a custom ROM and tweak it if you like

Question F3 - Worth it?

I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?

proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice

venomus001 said:
proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice
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But you have devices like OnePlus 9R or maybe some Realme or something..
OP has better software
I have some previous device at my home and with same issue after ton of updates so.. Xiaomi doesnt fixed the problems..

oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny

venomus001 said:
oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny
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The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?

SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.

venomus001 said:
if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.
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I didnt told that I want clean software...

SlideCan said:
I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?
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Depends, if you plan to play heavy game (genshin impact for example), it's a perfect "budget" phone. But if playing isn't your primary goal, there are better globally phone.

Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).

Nemix77 said:
Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).
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Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.

Greenspoof said:
Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.
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My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.

Nemix77 said:
My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.
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How much I need to spend more for the both things?
Not take pictures a lot but yeah play games.
I read that the proximity sensor is hardware problem.
Maybe OnePlus 9R for better software and without bugs?

I don't get all the fuzz about the proximity sensor. It's "weird" in that it combines accelerometer and camera, but it does work, unless you make phone calls while lying down on the bed. I've had no issues with it whatsoever.

OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.

Nemix77 said:
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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He has Dolby, my girlfriend has the redmi note 10 pro, and there is indeed Dolby equaliser installed

Nemix77 said:
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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So maybe 9R worth it? yeah that is 100$ more but you got better software..
But if you got the 9R.. you can added 100$ more and got the regular Oneplus 9... so..

Write down your reason to buy new phone.
Write your need in priority order, we are not you, we don't know your situation. Worth or not is subjective.
Camera, SoC, local price of phone, warranty, system update, community, reason to buy phone, where you live, budget limit ... etc.
Remember, no compare no despair. Get use to phone you buy.
Suggest you buy all, Poco F3 + OnePlus 9R + OnePlus 9. Worth? Yes worth, 2 for me and you keep one. Worth for me.

SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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You have the option of stopping some adds, uncheck all kinds of miui optimization, referrence, suggestion, feedback, also some option ull find in developer mode. I have done it in mu Poco F1, didnt find a single add in 2years of use. I havent bought the F3 yet but hopefully its the same principle. You can remove bloatware via xiaomi fastboot tool. U dont need to unlock the bootloader.

It seems mostly that you're searching reasons to not get the Poco F3 instead of asking if is worth or not
In your case, get a OnePlus 9R/9 or a Pixel phone and you will be fine, their software is easily a ton better that Xiaomi MIUI and they shouldn't have the issues you mentioned either (Proximity sensor and ads)

I agree, he's nitpicking at the flaws of phone instead of thinking of what he needs in a phone and comparing it with the competition.
There's no perfect phone out there regardless of money and just for record, "I don't like Apple products".

Question 48mp to 108mp

Guys i might sound stupid, but I want to try something weird, I like Poco f3 on eu rom everything is good, but I was thinking if I can swipe 48mp camera module to 108mp is that a good idea will it work, did some one has though about this Bec I'm gonna try it or

Habeebi said:
Guys i might sound stupid, but I want to try something weird, I like Poco f3 on eu rom everything is good, but I was thinking if I can swipe 48mp camera module to 108mp is that a good idea will it work, did some one has though about this Bec I'm gonna try it or
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What do you mean by module.
Like you want remove the camera device and put another?

Swapping a camera module is very very unlikely to work.
Even if it has the same connector high chance it still wouldnt work hardware wise
AND even if it was physically hardware compatible, you would still need to do a lot of dev work to get it functional software wise
tldr not possible/feasible

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What do you mean by module.
Like you want remove the camera device and put another?
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In china Redmi k40 pro + is same as Poco f3 but there is different in camera module it's 108mp and Poco f3 is 48

hairyfred said:
Swapping a camera module is very very unlikely to work.
Even if it has the same connector high chance it still wouldnt work hardware wise
AND even if it was physically hardware compatible, you would still need to do a lot of dev work to get it functional software wise
tldr not possible/feasible
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What do you think about Redmi k40/ pro / pro plus in china are all same and rebranded as Poco f3 globally don't you think there might be chance that would work Bec it's same tho Humm

Habeebi said:
What do you think about Redmi k40/ pro / pro plus in china are all same and rebranded as Poco f3 globally don't you think there might be chance that would work Bec it's same tho Humm
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buy it then and let us know

As you write yourself, there are different Redmi K40. But there is no different Poco F3.
If so, only the K40 without "Pro" or "Pro Plus" are the same as the Poco F3.
The Pro, for example, has a different SoC and a different camera, namely 64MB.
The Pro Plus has a 108MB camera.
Redmi K40 vs K40 Pro vs K40 Pro+: Specs Comparison - Gizmochina
Xiaomi internal comparison between Redmi K40, K40 Pro and K40 Pro+.
www.gizmochina.com
As the others have already written, the hardware may have to be done differently, but in any case the drivers and the software in the ROM must be adapted. Just swapping it out will 100% not work.

Wouldn't it be easier to buy 108mp phone and flash it to global miui? Just a suggestion