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Lower-end alternatives to the 5T?

I will probably buy a OnePlus 5T soon, but I really don't need such a high end phone that is so big.
If you had to buyer another phone that had great community support, but didn't cost quite so much, which would it be?
Things which are important to me:
- The open-source/ROM/modding/dev community = mandatory requirement.
- Headphone jack = mandatory requirement.
- SDCard would be nice.
- Removable/user-serviceable battery would be nice.
- Battery life.
Things that I don't like about newer phones, or are not important to me:
- TOO BIG. Fat phones can't fit in my pocket anymore!
- TOO THIN. Lower battery life, more breakable, higher price, makes no sense.
- Removal of the headphone jack. Pure greed and evil.
- OEM ROMs and OEM features: Will never use it anyway.
Just to be clear, cost isn't an issue. I'd gladly pay more if I could get a thicker OnePlus 5T with a removable battery and sdcard slot. I'd pay $1000 for that phone no problem, but it doesn't exist. The problem is the lack of value in buying a thinner, fragile, featureless phone.
Thank you
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OnePlus 3T would be an obviously great choice is price alone was my concern, but it's not. Still a good option.
The Moto G5 Plus and G5S Plus look like good options; they have an sdcard slot, but no removable battery. Great QCA SoC and community support on them. Cost less than half what a OnePlus 5T does.

Removable battery and SD Card slots aren't very popular among manufacturers these days. So a device that fits all of these is hard to find.
My vote, though, would go to the OnePlus 3T.

I'd get the Huawei Mate 10 light which is around 280 €. But I also must say I would never bother with anything below 5.8 inches.

Don't know about other countries but in India Xiaomi just launched Redmi note 5 pro. Check it out.
Edit: it cost around 214$.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179

Great comments so far. Thanks everyone.
Xaiomi Redmi Note 5 Pro looks really good with it's sdcard slot, much better price/value, and a good SoC. I'm not a fan of Xaiomi though: long-term GPL violator and anti-OSS company. Very anti-moral Chinese company. Still, the phone looks good.
OnePlus 3T would be a great option if price alone was my concern, but I money isn't an issue for me.
Any modern SoC would probably be fast enough for my needs, so long as it has good OSS/community dev support. I don't need more than 4GB of RAM.
I really wish there was a phone with dual USB C ports, one on each side. That would take care of the phone jack issue too.

Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro will be a big seller and I expect a huge custom rom community.

Anyone have opinions on the LG G6? It's been out for a few months now.
I agree that Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro has stupid-good specs and price. I will look at it very much, even though I don't trust or like Xiaomi at all. Are they releasing source code for it? Xiaomi has been bad about that in the past.
EDIT: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is out of the question. Has no LTE bands I can use (4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)), and the sources are not out and probably will not be out for months, if ever. New SoC and nobody has DTS or sources yet. Might be popular in India and a few other countries, but not this side of the globe. With so few bands on it, I don't think it will be very popular.

I would try the Moto lineup if you want like a mid grade phone that works well. Pretty sure they meet most of what you are looking for.

have a look at bq aquaris x pro battery is not removable but at decent size

black.kahder said:
Anyone have opinions on the LG G6? It's been out for a few months now.
I agree that Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro has stupid-good specs and price. I will look at it very much, even though I don't trust or like Xiaomi at all. Are they releasing source code for it? Xiaomi has been bad about that in the past.
EDIT: Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro is out of the question. Has no LTE bands I can use (4G bandsLTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 40(2300), 41(2500)), and the sources are not out and probably will not be out for months, if ever. New SoC and nobody has DTS or sources yet. Might be popular in India and a few other countries, but not this side of the globe. With so few bands on it, I don't think it will be very popular.
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1st of all LTE bands depends on countries. Wait for it to launch globally. 2nd Xiaomi release source code within 15 days if device is running on miui which Redmi note 5 pro already is.
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For the bands

Best phone to upgrade to from Mi5/MI5S?

I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?

I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.

Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.

Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.

8166uy said:
Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!

On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.

patoberli said:
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).

Question about "Pro" version

Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!

First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.

Arushidesu said:
First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.
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Really thanks!

It's more likely the global version of the RN5[WHYRED] going by camera specs, the version with the Pro extension is only sold in India!

simon3sce said:
Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!
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PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE

raptorddd said:
PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE
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This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.

peter-k said:
This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.
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right i forgot about apperture LOL.. but yes i think AI is better at low light but pro takes better pictures.. anyways he should be getting the AI.

Thanks to all of you! I decided to buy the RN5, because it has a better processor, a good camera (I think the A1 camera is a little better, but this is still good), but especially because of the great battery.

To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

winesh said:
It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

kagazushi said:
Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

keeeper said:
Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

WhatzIt2Ya said:
After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

kagazushi said:
Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

kagazushi said:
Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

Rdavis27 said:
Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

kagazushi said:
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.

Buying Samsung Galaxy S9+ instead of Xiaomi Mi 9?

Hello!
In few days I would like to buy a new phone. Right now, in my country, there are massive price drops of SGS9+/ Note 9 prices. So SGS9+ costs 536€ and Note 9 699€.
As You might know, Mi 9 costs about 466€ (6/128 variant). The thing is, that Mi 9 is almost unpossible to get from official distribution. There are only few pieces avalaible for sale every week.
In my opinion Mi 9 only advantages are newest Snapdragon 855, and better look (personal opinion), and under display fingerprint scanner. Camera without OIS is a little bit worrying.
My biggest concerns about SGS9+/Note 9, is Exynos which in benchmarks is slightly slower than Snap 845. But on the other hand I think that camera would be better, and despite being released over year ago (SGS9+), it still can show off with the new technologies.
If Samsung, then question is SGS9+ or Note 9? Note 9 has larger battery, stylus (sounds like a good idea, but in practice can't say how often I would use it) and a little bit telephoto camera. Would You say that it is worth to pay more?
I would like to hear your opinions regarding Samsung devices, and maybe even some of You has comparision to Mi 9
I will be grateful for any recommendations.
Thanks!

pazdzioch564 said:
Hello!
In few days I would like to buy a new phone. Right now, in my country, there are massive price drops of SGS9+/ Note 9 prices. So SGS9+ costs 536€ and Note 9 699€.
As You might know, Mi 9 costs about 466€ (6/128 variant). The thing is, that Mi 9 is almost unpossible to get from official distribution. There are only few pieces avalaible for sale every week.
In my opinion Mi 9 only advantages are newest Snapdragon 855, and better look (personal opinion), and under display fingerprint scanner. Camera without OIS is a little bit worrying.
My biggest concerns about SGS9+/Note 9, is Exynos which in benchmarks is slightly slower than Snap 845. But on the other hand I think that camera would be better, and despite being released over year ago (SGS9+), it still can show off with the new technologies.
If Samsung, then question is SGS9+ or Note 9? Note 9 has larger battery, stylus (sounds like a good idea, but in practice can't say how often I would use it) and a little bit telephoto camera. Would You say that it is worth to pay more?
I would like to hear your opinions regarding Samsung devices, and maybe even some of You has comparision to Mi 9
I will be grateful for any recommendations.
Thanks!
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Go for the phone with the newer snapdragon
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It depends on your usage, if you want a phone with stereo speakers, headphone jack and SD card slot, with higher screen resolution and higher front facing video resolution, and if you care about a more secure iris/face unlock and more reliable physical fingerprint scanner, go for the S9+/Note 9 (depends if you need an S pen). Otherwise go for the Xiaomi Mi 9. Personally, I prefer Samsung's software though. But since you can pay 699€, I recommend you to pay a few more and get the S10e, or wait for the S10 price to drop, it will be much better than the Mi 9...

jamil aboudaher said:
It depends on your usage, if you want a phone with stereo speakers, headphone jack and SD card slot, with higher screen resolution and higher front facing video resolution, and if you care about a more secure iris/face unlock and more reliable physical fingerprint scanner, go for the S9+/Note 9 (depends if you need an S pen). Otherwise go for the Xiaomi Mi 9. Personally, I prefer Samsung's software though. But since you can pay 699€, I recommend you to pay a few more and get the S10e, or wait for the S10 price to drop, it will be much better than the Mi 9...
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Dude on xda bricked his S10 trying to flash twrp on a snapdragon version smh [emoji2357]
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I'd prefer Samsung, they have a better track record, especially on the security and spyware department.

Since you don't have access to the Galaxy so plus with the snapdragon variant that equals to worst camera and battery (I mean on snapdragon you are gonna be able to use the GCam mods with great alogirthm for Better photos, you can use the wide lens camera,better portait pictures etc! And the battery in my experience of the s9 (not the s9+ is just fine I am able t get 2:30hrs of sot time per charge in full HD )