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Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!
First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.
Arushidesu said:
First, it's probably the Pro version. There's some confusion about that because of the difference between the Chinese and Indian markets. The Indian RN5 Pro is the same as the global RN5, and the Indian RN5 is the Redmi 5 Plus Global. So if you are buying RN5 out of India, it is the global version that has the codename whyred. It's a bit confusing, but do not worry about it. You will be buying the correct version.
Second: The RN5 is better than the A1, speaking in technical terms. It has a better processor and more battery, just not sure about the cameras. (But the RN5 is very good for the price). The A1 has USB type-C and the RN5 micro USB.
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Really thanks!
It's more likely the global version of the RN5[WHYRED] going by camera specs, the version with the Pro extension is only sold in India!
simon3sce said:
Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new phone, which I want to buy is a good phone, with lots of development and good compatibility with Gcam, so I found the two best options. One of them is the Xiaomi MI A1, and the other is this phone (Redmi Note 5) and here come two questions.
The first one:
This store is from Colombia (I'm from Colombia) and I don't know if this is the "pro" version, but I figured it was.
http://www.losdistribuidores.com/productos/xiaomi/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-caracteristicas
The second one:
Do you recommend MI A1 or Note 5 and why?
Thank you!
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PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE
raptorddd said:
PRO only for india... same phone except camera PRO front 20mpx 1.2micron..
global or china AI same phone but make sure you get global version..front 13mpx but 1.4 microns..
both uses the same ROM.
mia1 i think better camera.. no electronic stabilization i think,,
RN5 AI good camera video stabilization.
RN5AI better processor and bigger battery and MIUI rom.
mia1 android ONE
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This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.
peter-k said:
This is the correct info. The SOC of the RN5 is vastly improved, more than the small step in numbering suggests. You speak about A1 Antutu 75,000 vs. RN5 Antutu 118,000, the difference also can be felt in immediatly.
Further, the Redmi Note 5 primary camera lens is an f1.9, the Pro version and the A1 is a f2.2 (same sensor). People would nautrally associate the moniker Pro with an upgrade version but Xiaomi seems to have a different opinion.
There was someone on Youtube making a camera comparison in between the RN5 and the RN5 Pro. The difference in low light conditions is huge, thanks to the combination of bigger pixel size and lower f stop value. It approached in some lighting coditions the camera of the S8.
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right i forgot about apperture LOL.. but yes i think AI is better at low light but pro takes better pictures.. anyways he should be getting the AI.
Thanks to all of you! I decided to buy the RN5, because it has a better processor, a good camera (I think the A1 camera is a little better, but this is still good), but especially because of the great battery.
I'm gonna hit myself in the balls and buy the Mi A2 Lite (I owned a Mi A1 phone but I broke it) and I want to check out this phone because why not? (Don't say it)
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
People who already have the phone:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?
SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
I'm gonna hit myself in the balls and buy the Mi A2 Lite (I owned a Mi A1 phone but I broke it) and I want to check out this phone because why not? (Don't say it)
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
People who already have the phone:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?
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Well, I don't know about the Mi A1, but I've been using the A2 Lite for a few days and everything looks great...if you can get the 64/4 for 180-200$ or the 32/3 for a bit less it's good enough.
You could get better phones, for me android one is the deal-breaker. I just like stock android, and hate OEM's skins.
Battery life is really good, camera is ok, no laggy UI and it's updated to the latest security patch (August 5th).
If Android One is what you're looking for then yes, this phone is good for it's price range.
It's not a camera phone, but it takes nice photos if the light allows it, and is not a gaming phone, but gets the job done on my day to day use (which consists in no social apps installed, only Boost for Reddit and Whatsapp)
For the most part is a smaller A1 with a bigger battery.
I come from an S8, and I don't miss a single thing. Maybe the USB-C, but I couldn't care less. I needed a phone with near to stock Android, good battery life and comfortable size. This is it. If you have other needs, you can get something else for sure!
SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
1- Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
2- How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
3- If anyone had a Mi A1 is anything better with Mi A2 Lite than with Mi A1?
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1- I don't know. If I'm not wrong, no EIS by default, but with GCam I got some nice video stabilization compared to stock camera.
Only two OTA updates until now, both installed without problems, and they both come regularly in the second half of the month.
2- As you said, you can get better phones for the same money. The main reason I bought this phone is the 72 mm width, that you won't find at this price with all the features of Mi A2 Lite.
3- I don't have Mi A1 but the main differences with A2 Lite are the dimensions (A1 bigger than A2 Lite), the battery (3000 mAh on A1 vs 4000 mAh on A2 Lite) and the screen (regular 16:9 A1 vs 18:9 with notch on A2 Lite).
SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
Did XIAOMI fixed their mistakes with the Mi A1? Missing EIS, broken updates etc.
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Too early to tell with the software but it does come with Treble so that is a bonus, It does see like EIS is included in the video and seems to work.
SnoopDoggyStyleDogg said:
How is it? Good or bad for that price range? (I know I could get a better phone for the same amount of money so don't say it)
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Coming from a OnePlus 5, I wanted something smaller and this was one of the few devices under ~72mm. The 625 is sufficient for everything I do (Mostly Calls, Texting, Youtube & Social Media) (No Games). Camera is acceptable, not great not unusable. 4000mAh is just an awesome bonus. Phone is nice and loud. The only other device that caught my eye is the Nokia 6.1 Plus but I'm skeptical because the camera might be worse, isn't widely available and audio quality is questionable.
BubuXP said:
2- As you said, you can get better phones for the same money. The main reason I bought this phone is the 72 mm width, that you won't find at this price with all the features of Mi A2 Lite.
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iLovPieNCake said:
Too early to tell with the software but it does come with Treble so that is a bonus, It does see like EIS is included in the video and seems to work.
Coming from a OnePlus 5, I wanted something smaller and this was one of the few devices under ~72mm. The 625 is sufficient for everything I do (Mostly Calls, Texting, Youtube & Social Media) (No Games). Camera is acceptable, not great not unusable. 4000mAh is just an awesome bonus. Phone is nice and loud. The only other device that caught my eye is the Nokia 6.1 Plus but I'm skeptical because the camera might be worse, isn't widely available and audio quality is questionable.
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Phone still kind of big prefer it was a bit narrow and shorter.
Yeah same here but there aren't many options.
I've just ordered the Lite from Amazon. I've had an A1 for 2 days, but it seems broken so is going back. Main reasons for not going full A2 are the battery, I have a million micro USB cables, and the size. I don't need a top end phone, so for £155 and Google One, the lite is a total bargain.
My previous phone is no longer fixable and that means I've to search for a other phone.
After a some time of searching work, I have now these two phones left at the list:
- Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite
- Xiaomi Poco X3
My requirements for the phone is:
- A free unlockable bootloader
- A price no higher then €320,00
- 128GB storage
- A good camera (I've a Instagram account and I post pictures there and because I want good quality pictures)
- More then 3000mah battery
- Good performance (Especially gaming)
- Running Android
I've watches many video's and readed many articles but I can't still decide which phone, so some advice is appreciated.
I readed that the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite has a bad microlens camera and the camera feels sluggish, maybe someone here uses a Xiaomi Mi10T Lite and can tell me if it's true.
And the Xiaomi Poco X3 doesn't support 5G so it's less futureproof, because I expect to use the phone for some years I expect that 5G will be commonly avaible in my country then (The Netherlands)
I'm also impressed by by the latter and the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite is the same in terms of performance as the Xiaomi Poco X3, but I'm very confused right now.
So the big question is, which phone is the best option for me if you look at my requirements?
I have zero experience with X3 (NFC), but 10T lite sounds like it ticks all your boxes. Macro camera is a joke (no autofocus), but it doesn't really bother me, I simply don't use it.
You can find some comparison between 10T lite and X3 in this Russian forum (use Google translate), the general consensus is that 10T lite is improved X3. And upcoming X3 PRO will be improved 10T lite.. I think that at the end it comes to the cost - if you're money's tight, go with X3, if you can get a good deal on 10T lite, buy 10T lite.
Update: I've chosen the Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite 128GB as my next phone.
It has a better processor as the Xiaomi Poco X3 128GB, although the latter has a smaller battery capacity I find performance more important than battery capacity so I don't really mind using a phone with a smaller battery capacity if I get a better performance in exchange.
That means the question is now answered so thank you for your help!
However, if my sister finds it too expensive and tells me she can't order that phone then it will be the Xiaomi Poco X3. (I'm only 17 years old and I'm not allowed to order stuff on my own)
Update: I received my Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite and I can say that I'm very impressed.
I'm amazed by it's battery life, camera and performance.
120hz is very smooth.
I had to first get used to MIUI because it's kinda different from the other Android UI's but I'm satisfied now.
MIUI is a very beautiful UI imo.
Very nice, you can get a custom ROM and tweak it if you like
Assalam AlaykomHello Everybody
I id like to ask about F3 an d how is it compared to mi10t /10tpro
I have been confused between them
Thanks in advance
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POCO F3 Vs MI10T
Basically. MI10T has SD 865, Better Camera and Battery. It also has a 144hz IPS LCD Screen. Something I am not really a fan of.
While POCO F3 is powered by SD 870. an E4 120hz AMOLED.
I'd go with Poco F3. I already bought one. it's on the way. Better performance with a cheaper price.
Atasal said:
Assalam AlaykomHello Everybody
I id like to ask about F3 an d how is it compared to mi10t /10tpro
I have been confused between them
Thanks in advance
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You can always check for the basic comparison for phones in versus, where I always use it to compare my F3.
Use the below link;
Xiaomi Mi 10T vs Xiaomi Poco F3: What is the difference?
What is the difference between Xiaomi Mi 10T and Xiaomi Poco F3? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the smartphone ranking.
versus.com
What I advise you is to wait for redmi 11 models. It seems like they will appear soon.
Among the three I prefer f3, no doubt!
owning a poco F3, I am really happy with it cuz I've got it for less than 400 euros for the 256 version, it is very smooth and pleasant to use but if you can get a mi10t pro for the same price the last one will be a better deal. Soc is more or less the same (a tad slower), but camera will be way better, a'd you won't have proximity sensor issue which is a pain in the ass and a big drawback on this phone. I don't understand how xiaomi can sell a phone on which this basic function is not reliable. also stock rom on poco F3 is loaded with bloatware.
I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?
proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice
venomus001 said:
proximity sensor is definitely an issue when you're in a call the screen does not lock properly, anything software related can be fixed only time will tell if it's a good device, for me i always buy phones around $400 so this one was my go to choice
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But you have devices like OnePlus 9R or maybe some Realme or something..
OP has better software
I have some previous device at my home and with same issue after ton of updates so.. Xiaomi doesnt fixed the problems..
oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny
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oneplus 9R is $100 more, as i said software don't count, i never use stock roms anyway, i only lock boot loader when i'm selling or giving the phone away other wise it's the build quality that counts, i had oneplus 8t for a few months and i was disappointed because i thought buying a more expensive phone would make a difference and 9r is the same i skipt all previous generations of poco and i still think f3 is worth every penny
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The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.
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if you're buying a phone and want clean software out of the box, Pixel phones are ur best bet for a budget, they are the closest manufacturer to apple when if comes to reliability, all other brands have buggy software at best, oxygen os might look like stock aosp but it's very poorly designed.
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I didnt told that I want clean software...
SlideCan said:
I read about some problems like:
- Proximity sensor
- Some ads in the rom
and some other bugs and that is disappointed after all...
Xiaomi MIUI software is not good about all? I think they not going to fix the proximity sensor.
Or that is better buying some OnePlus device?
Xiaomi.EUI is better than Global and debloated?
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Depends, if you plan to play heavy game (genshin impact for example), it's a perfect "budget" phone. But if playing isn't your primary goal, there are better globally phone.
Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).
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Proximity sesnsor has been fixed to a degree (I don't notice a problem on my unit at all), of course there will be more firmware updates to iron out the rest of the minor kinks.
I don't game or use the camera too much, it was between this phone and the Redmi Note 10 Pro (I didn't want an olrder device from Xiaomi simply because one more year worth of updates is well worth the trade off).
For me, the price difference would have been minor if I got the 8/128GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro instead of the 8/256GB Poco F3.
So I went with the better looking, better built, better performing, better features (120Hz AMOLED, Dolby and X-Axis Haptics) and IMHO the better value phone (Xiaomi.EU China rom versus Xiaomi.EU Global rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro).
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Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.
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Well, redmi note 10 pro has 120hz amoled and Dolby. The camera is better, if he isn't planning to game at all, I would go for the redmi note 10 pro, the built quality is better, the camera is superior, but the chipset is too weak to really play.
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My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.
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My bads Redmi Note 10 Pro indeed has 120Hz but no Dolby.
He needs to decide what's important to him, performance or camera or spend more for both.
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How much I need to spend more for the both things?
Not take pictures a lot but yeah play games.
I read that the proximity sensor is hardware problem.
Maybe OnePlus 9R for better software and without bugs?
I don't get all the fuzz about the proximity sensor. It's "weird" in that it combines accelerometer and camera, but it does work, unless you make phone calls while lying down on the bed. I've had no issues with it whatsoever.
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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He has Dolby, my girlfriend has the redmi note 10 pro, and there is indeed Dolby equaliser installed
Nemix77 said:
OnePlus 9R is a great alternative, the main camera support OIS and it has the same chipset as the Poco F3.
And yes with more optimized and arguably better software, it's pretty affordable too.
Perhaps if you wait a bit more after the summer, we might see a Mi 11T and Galaxy S21 FE.
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So maybe 9R worth it? yeah that is 100$ more but you got better software..
But if you got the 9R.. you can added 100$ more and got the regular Oneplus 9... so..
Write down your reason to buy new phone.
Write your need in priority order, we are not you, we don't know your situation. Worth or not is subjective.
Camera, SoC, local price of phone, warranty, system update, community, reason to buy phone, where you live, budget limit ... etc.
Remember, no compare no despair. Get use to phone you buy.
Suggest you buy all, Poco F3 + OnePlus 9R + OnePlus 9. Worth? Yes worth, 2 for me and you keep one. Worth for me.
SlideCan said:
The proximity sensor isnt annoying? and what about the ads?
have many bloated apps?
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You have the option of stopping some adds, uncheck all kinds of miui optimization, referrence, suggestion, feedback, also some option ull find in developer mode. I have done it in mu Poco F1, didnt find a single add in 2years of use. I havent bought the F3 yet but hopefully its the same principle. You can remove bloatware via xiaomi fastboot tool. U dont need to unlock the bootloader.
It seems mostly that you're searching reasons to not get the Poco F3 instead of asking if is worth or not
In your case, get a OnePlus 9R/9 or a Pixel phone and you will be fine, their software is easily a ton better that Xiaomi MIUI and they shouldn't have the issues you mentioned either (Proximity sensor and ads)
I agree, he's nitpicking at the flaws of phone instead of thinking of what he needs in a phone and comparing it with the competition.
There's no perfect phone out there regardless of money and just for record, "I don't like Apple products".