Hey peeps, I'm looking at biting the bullet on a 9" Dasaita PX5 4gb/32gb head unit for my Subaru Forester.
It is replacing the stock Nav unit which has fuel consumption data among other things.
I'm wondering if I will be able to use an app like Torque tools to see that data over the existing Canbus connection or do I need to use a Bluetooth odb2 plug or something along those lines?
If I do have to use an odb2 plug can I connect my phone via Bluetooth at same time? Any advice or suggestions on Android head unit model choice and Dasaita reviews would be appreciated.
9" Android 8.0 Car Radio GPS for Subaru Forester Navigation 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 Head Unit 4G 32G Octa Core
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Hello, i dont have a Subaru while using a Dasaita HU. IMO, if you have a Canbus converter box, and it already show some car's info before on the original HU, it will show the same on your new HU.
Case of using odb2 connected by Bluetooth, you can even connect Bluetooth with your smartphone at the same time.
Hello!
I've had a wonderful Android 8 radio for two weeks now, I'm almost hapy with it.
And that makes me the steering wheel control to create.
I think it's a Witson PX5 W2-V5538.
But here are the basic data:
Model: px5 (1024x600)
Buildnumber: px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.hct20180514.173404 test-keys
MCU version MTCE_MX_V2.83-1
April 26, 2018
CPU 8 core
My car is a FIAT Qubo year of production 08/2016 (after the facelift)
thus a vehicle without CAN bus on the radio, all signals come in analog.
- B +
- GND
- ACC
- ILL
- SWR left
- SWR right
- SWR GRP (GND from steering wheel control)
Between SWR right (SWR left) and GND, I can clearly identify each key with an ohmmeter, but recognizes that radio no signals from the steering wheel control.
Connection took place as follows:
SWR left = K1
SWR right = K2
SWR GRP = GND
Are there solutions to solve the problem?
The manufacturer or seller does his best but it is not enough, I have now updated to another MCU version (2.9.) But unfortunately no change.
The following MCU version has been updated today:
//drive.google.com/open?id=1qELm7uG0PXPk4VVticb6z6pBKsxVc0DE
I think it's a Witson PX5 W2-V5538.
Here is the link to Aliexpress:
//de.aliexpress.com/item/7-HD-1024x600-Pure-Android-Autoradio-For-Fiat-Fiorino-Qubo-Citroen-Nemo-Peugeot-Bipper-DVD-GPS/32816746998.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.432a4c4dpcvFnn
Thank you!
greetings
Gerald
gerald_FS said:
Hello!
I've had a wonderful Android 8 radio for two weeks now, I'm almost hapy with it.
And that makes me the steering wheel control to create.
I think it's a Witson PX5 W2-V5538.
But here are the basic data:
Model: px5 (1024x600)
Buildnumber: px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.hct20180514.173404 test-keys
MCU version MTCE_MX_V2.83-1
April 26, 2018
CPU 8 core
My car is a FIAT Qubo year of production 08/2016 (after the facelift)
thus a vehicle without CAN bus on the radio, all signals come in analog.
- B +
- GND
- ACC
- ILL
- SWR left
- SWR right
- SWR GRP (GND from steering wheel control)
Between SWR right (SWR left) and GND, I can clearly identify each key with an ohmmeter, but recognizes that radio no signals from the steering wheel control.
Connection took place as follows:
SWR left = K1
SWR right = K2
SWR GRP = GND
Are there solutions to solve the problem?
The manufacturer or seller does his best but it is not enough, I have now updated to another MCU version (2.9.) But unfortunately no change.
The following MCU version has been updated today:
//drive.google.com/open?id=1qELm7uG0PXPk4VVticb6z6pBKsxVc0DE
I think it's a Witson PX5 W2-V5538.
Here is the link to Aliexpress:
//de.aliexpress.com/item/7-HD-1024x600-Pure-Android-Autoradio-For-Fiat-Fiorino-Qubo-Citroen-Nemo-Peugeot-Bipper-DVD-GPS/32816746998.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.432a4c4dpcvFnn
Thank you!
greetings
Gerald
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The HU came with a canbus unit?
Have you tried "Key Study" on Factory settings? if the SWC keys dont are under canbus controll you can intercept a program key functions here.
P.S.: Also you are wrong about resistive QUBO SWC: all FIAT cars/van after 2010 are all Canbus controlled and in your case all QUBO year 2011 > are canbus controlled, italian models not sure for german versions.
Hope that help
yes, it was a CAN bus box, but it did not work with it.
Therefore, we have the radio connected directly, awie said the ISO plug all voltages and signals directly out.
The on-board system does not even specify a radio, the "old Punto" built in 2011 was different.
According to statement FIAT and original radio manufacturers have all Qubo from year of construction 07/2016 in ISO plug no CAN bus.
From 07/2016, the Daiichi M3003 was installed as a multimedia radio and that can not do anything with CAN.
Is there a possibility to convert the resistance values into CAN telegram?
In order then to convert in a further step into a radio-suitable signal?
greetings
Gerald
gerald_FS said:
yes, it was a CAN bus box, but it did not work with it.
Therefore, we have the radio connected directly, awie said the ISO plug all voltages and signals directly out.
The on-board system does not even specify a radio, the "old Punto" built in 2011 was different.
According to statement FIAT and original radio manufacturers have all Qubo from year of construction 07/2016 in ISO plug no CAN bus.
From 07/2016, the Daiichi M3003 was installed as a multimedia radio and that can not do anything with CAN.
Is there a possibility to convert the resistance values into CAN telegram?
In order then to convert in a further step into a radio-suitable signal?
greetings
Gerald
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Try connect you canbus decoder box to HU, then go to factory settings and select "NO" in canbus type menu.
Check if SWC are working.
But before doing this have you tried Key Study on Factory settings?
Also if you old radio is a Blaupunkt for sure has a canbus enabled connector (usually ausiliary connector are above the standard ISO main harness).
There in Italy a lot of car accessories shop sell SWC controll box for QUBO, Fiorino, Croma, Bravo, Punto that retain SWC, Odometric signal, PDC signals, etc etc.; they are "universal box" with a certain number of cable each one for each stereo manufacturer and one special one named "for chineses stereo".
Check this link for FIAT stereos pinout: FIAT Car Radio Stereo Audio Wiring Diagram
P.S.: u need use the only one "key" cable, each one have different volgate range: Key1 or Key2; GND cable need to be connected to any GND in car like any metal part. And after the wires connection you need always use/check the Key Study on factory setting for see if is all working
P.P.S.: another manufacturer suggest this type of connection, check this PDF: Key1Key2GND_Steering wheel.pdf
Hope that help
Hello,
Thanks for the information.
The radio was installed until 07/2016 was a Blaupunkt and it supported directly the CAN-bus control.
From the model upgrade, the Turkish Daiichi M3003 was installed.
From there, the problems start for me.
Attached is my pin layout from the original radio, I currently have the new connected directly and the SWR is as clamped as described in the last description (P.P.S) of you.
At Key1 I measure a voltage of 2.9V and Key2 3.3V.
The menu item for switching off the CAN bus input, there is not in the radio, or I do not think so.
gerald_FS said:
Hello,
Thanks for the information.
The radio was installed until 07/2016 was a Blaupunkt and it supported directly the CAN-bus control.
From the model upgrade, the Turkish Daiichi M3003 was installed.
From there, the problems start for me.
Attached is my pin layout from the original radio, I currently have the new connected directly and the SWR is as clamped as described in the last description (P.P.S) of you.
At Key1 I measure a voltage of 2.9V and Key2 3.3V.
The menu item for switching off the CAN bus input, there is not in the radio, or I do not think so.
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usually +5V are expected for SWC controls, strange...
For Key Study menu and Canbus settings menu go:
HU settings, factory setting, when prompted insert 126 password then ok, on top menu tap on Key study and there try program your keys or tap on Canbus and look for your car model/manufacturer on dropdown list also try "no" options. Remember after any value modification you need fully reboot you HU.
In meantime please tell me the right model of your old car stereo, i can read the pinout from your photo. I will try to find other infos for you.
Can you post some photos of new HU connectors, harness and if present the pinout sticker (the one on first post is unreadable)?
chinaradio.pdf = connection diagram (wiring harness and pin assignment)
connectionplan1.pdf = Pin assignment RNS
pin.jpg = both the original assignment of the plug faced (RNS and car)
gerald_FS said:
chinaradio.pdf = connection diagram (wiring harness and pin assignment)
connectionplan1.pdf = Pin assignment RNS
pin.jpg = both the original assignment of the plug faced (RNS and car)
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Sticker photo still not working, but for what i see SWR radio pin dont have a correspondance with KEYS wires from new HU. They are "proprietary" im more convinced that you really need a canbus decoder connection/right HU settings.
I have found the following information:
chinaradio.pdf = connection diagram (wiring harness and pin assignment)
connectionplan1.pdf = Pin assignment RNS
pin.jpg = both the original assignment of the plug faced (RNS and car)
can box pinout.pdf = assignment of the CAN box
and the current MCU version 2.92. I got from the manufacturer.
Currently I have SWR right on K1 and SWR left on K2 clamped, the common Masser of the SWR I put additionally on the mass of the RNS.
The CAN box had the following connections from the vehicle
(The occupancy corresponded to the Blaupunkt layout for Fiat Qubo):
Power supply B +
CanA
CanB
to the RNA went out of the box:
ACC
K1
K2
ILL
went to the vehicle:
external amplifier 12V
and antenna 12V
I installed my RNS on a vehicle built in 2012 - everything worked immediately.
gerald_FS said:
Currently I have SWR right on K1 and SWR left on K2 clamped, the common Masser of the SWR I put additionally on the mass of the RNS.
The CAN box had the following connections from the vehicle
(The occupancy corresponded to the Blaupunkt layout for Fiat Qubo):
Power supply B +
CanA
CanB
to the RNA went out of the box:
ACC
K1
K2
ILL
went to the vehicle:
external amplifier 12V
and antenna 12V
I installed my RNS on a vehicle built in 2012 - everything worked immediately.
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The 2012 vehicle had the same connection of your 2016, for same i mean exactly corresponding cables?
Try set you HU with factory settings menu like i said some post above.
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greetings
Gerald
Hello,
The old model has a Blaupunkt radio and the correct ISO pin assignment.
In my vehicle there are the differences. we have already described it.
I have a reset to factory settings about 30 minutes ago, he does not need a PIN input and there was no change.
The voltages that I can measure correspond to CanHigh and CanLow levels .... But unfortunately you can not change the hardware.
Likewise, have ever set a resistance between K1 and GND, even that is not recognized.
As I see it, the radio definitely wants a digital signal.
greetings
Gerald
gerald_FS said:
Hello,
The old model has a Blaupunkt radio and the correct ISO pin assignment.
In my vehicle there are the differences. we have already described it.
I have a reset to factory settings about 30 minutes ago, he does not need a PIN input and there was no change.
The voltages that I can measure correspond to CanHigh and CanLow levels .... But unfortunately you can not change the hardware.
Likewise, have ever set a resistance between K1 and GND, even that is not recognized.
As I see it, the radio definitely wants a digital signal.
greetings
Gerald
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I dont want to be rude, but are you sure about you read?
I asked you do not perform a factory reset, but enter in unit factory settings menu and work with some of features present.
Also if you transplant the unit on an old car model and the HU is working like expected, there only 2 option:
some wires in car harness are different connected or like i said from my first post you need a canbus decoder unit for retain swc.
Now you need to choice trying my maybe working suggestions or follow your understantements or go to a professional installer and pay him for the work.
Now if there is present somebody that want help you, he's welcome!
bye
Sorry, I misunderstood something, or I wrote it wrong
I have the CAN module, re-installed in the wiring harness and there was no change.
Then I made the mistake that I have made a remnant, because I misunderstood you.
The plug in the "old" car model does not match that in my vehicle.
There are several differences:
Year of construction 2012: B +; GND; Antenna control; CanA; CanB
Year of construction 2016: B +; GND; ACC; ILL; SWR left; SWR right; SWR GRP
The radio can not be switched on in the original layout.
At the manufacturer's direction, in the first step, I have ACC; ILL; B + directly through. the CAN decoder module remains in the harness, was with GND; ACC; B + and SWR right and SWR left supplied.
The RNS works except for the steering wheel remote control.
In the further research I am here with the request and hope that there is a solution.
gerald_FS said:
Sorry, I misunderstood something, or I wrote it wrong
I have the CAN module, re-installed in the wiring harness and there was no change.
Then I made the mistake that I have made a remnant, because I misunderstood you.
The plug in the "old" car model does not match that in my vehicle.
There are several differences:
Year of construction 2012: B +; GND; Antenna control; CanA; CanB
Year of construction 2016: B +; GND; ACC; ILL; SWR left; SWR right; SWR GRP
The radio can not be switched on in the original layout.
At the manufacturer's direction, in the first step, I have ACC; ILL; B + directly through. the CAN decoder module remains in the harness, was with GND; ACC; B + and SWR right and SWR left supplied.
The RNS works except for the steering wheel remote control.
In the further research I am here with the request and hope that there is a solution.
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Check this: G.M. Production - FA004.2 - Kit recupero CAN BUS comandi al volante FIAT dal 2007
Hello, Did you figure it out by any means?
Hi Guys,
I have a Seicane PX5 octa core, 4GB RAM/32GB storage unit installed in my Mitsubishi L200 pickup. Had it for over a year now, and has worked perfectly from day 1, steering wheel keys all good, bluetooth calls, navigation, audio (much better than the stock radio), etc. Got a DAB+ box hooked up, reverse camera, etc. Really happy with it, upgraded to Android 10/latest MCU over the last week, again no problems.
So, why the post ?
There is one issue I had initially. The unit came with one of the can bus decoder boxes that connects to the loom at the back of the stereo. Once fitted and I started driving, I started getting all sorts of warning lights flashing on the dashboard - airbag warnings, engine lights, etc. Reading the OBD codes it was complaining about canbus communication errors. I cleared the codes and disconnected the canbus decoder from the loom. Ever since then, no codes, and the unit works perfectly - including things like the steering wheel controls.
So my question is, should I care that the canbus box caused errors ? Does it actually do anything worthwhile ? I guess it might depend on the vehicle it's installed in. Door Open warning maybe ? Speed sensitive volume adjust (although could use GPS for that) ? I'm just wondering if it's worth trying to get a replacement or just forget about it as it doesn't do much anyway.
Thanks.
Did you get this sorted and was it a dasaita head unit thanks
scottydoguk said:
Did you get this sorted and was it a dasaita head unit thanks
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scottydog, apologies for not replying to this sooner, I never got a notification that someone had replied to this, and I have had cause today to revisit this issue.
The head unit I wrote about was a Seicane unit. Aside from the can bus issue described, the unit has been flawless. My solution was to just omit the can bus box, the unit worked just fine, steering wheel keys, etc al worked perfectly so I just left it.
However, I decided for Christmas to upgrade the unit to a Dasaita PX 6 unit, it will be faster, has higher resolution screen, etc. This unit also came with a can bus decoder as part of the vehicle specific unit. So I fit it, and guess what - exactly the same as with the Seicane unit - weird dashboard warnings all over the place, airbag, traction control, etc.
So, I think, no problem, just ditch the can bus box. But there are two problems this time - (1) unlike the Seicane, the Dasaita unit won't power on unless the can bus box is connected, and (2) the Dasaita unit has an application pre-installed that allows tweaking of a lot of vehicle specific settings (headlamp on time, etc) that you used to be able to set with the factory head unit, and I'm guessing can bus connection will be needed to make those work.
So I would like to get to the bottom of this and get the unit working with the can bus unit in place. I've logged an issue on the Dasaita forum so we'll see what happens there. I don't think it's the can bus decoder, I can't believe two would display the same problem, I'm pretty sure it's the can bus settings in the Factory Settings of the unit - I can certainly make the problem worse by altering those, but I haven't found anything that makes it better !
I've attached an image showing the can bus settings on the device as I installed it. My car is a 2016 L200 UK version right hand drive, it's a Totan model that didn't have sat nav as new but does have steering wheel controls, etc.
Any ideas would be appreciated !
Thanks
hi guys,
I have the same problem with my Mitsubishi Lancer 2009.
I installed a android head unit over a year a go and didn't had any problems until recently when my ABS and ASC light start being on in my dashboard. The lights keep switching on and off at irregular intervals and when i put a car tester on it showed beside the ABS error code (C2116 code) other errors on airbags and engine immobilization, all related with that android unit, errors on car CAN line.
My car has an Rokford Fosgate amplifier from factory and the sound system doesn't work without the Canbus box installed, so ditching the canbus is not an option for me.
I also ordered a new canbus box from China and i will receive the package sometime in January. I'll keep you posted how it works with new one.
If you have any other information on this topic or you find something on line, I'm really interested since the android head unit is a big upgrade for my car and i will hate to come back to original radio.
Morning,
I recently purchased and installed a Android Head Unit to a car and it works brilliantly.
The only issue is the Cars Speedometer is now displayed in KM not Miles.
Would anyone know of a fix.
382.33US $ 26% OFF|Carplay Android 2 DIn Screen For Citroen DS3 C3 Picasso 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Audio Stereo Radio Receiver Unit|Car Multimedia Player| - AliExpress
Tried this fix but every time the car is restarted it goes back to KM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jx9ezr...
Thanks in advance
Tonystark7 said:
Morning,
I recently purchased and installed a Android Head Unit to a car and it works brilliantly.
The only issue is the Cars Speedometer is now displayed in KM not Miles.
Would anyone know of a fix.
382.33US $ 26% OFF|Carplay Android 2 DIn Screen For Citroen DS3 C3 Picasso 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Audio Stereo Radio Receiver Unit|Car Multimedia Player| - AliExpress
Tried this fix but every time the car is restarted it goes back to KM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jx9ezr...
Thanks in advance
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Is it an MTCD unit
Also, what does reseller suggest when contacted for support
marchnz said:
Is it an MTCD unit
Also, what does reseller suggest when contacted for support
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hi,
I have contacted ZWNAV factory support with no success.
As regards MTCD unit i am not sure, how can i find out?
Tonystark7 said:
Morning,
I recently purchased and installed a Android Head Unit to a car and it works brilliantly.
The only issue is the Cars Speedometer is now displayed in KM not Miles.
Would anyone know of a fix.
382.33US $ 26% OFF|Carplay Android 2 DIn Screen For Citroen DS3 C3 Picasso 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Audio Stereo Radio Receiver Unit|Car Multimedia Player| - AliExpress
Tried this fix but every time the car is restarted it goes back to KM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jx9ezr...
Thanks in advance
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the usb stick inserted is that something I buy separately before trying this fix?
RayOuellette1 said:
the usb stick inserted is that something I buy separately before trying this fix?
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The Youtube solution did not work on mine.
When you restart the car Speedometer goes back to KM.
I returned the unit wate of time.