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Is the VZW version unlockable?

(edit)According to user ihatevz in post 7 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72920750&postcount=7), the VZW edition is not unlockable
I see threads regarding TWRP and unlocking etc., but I can't find a straight answer regarding whether or not the bootloader on the VZW edition is capable of being unlocked.

Yeah this is exactly what I want to know. I'm starting to get frustrated about it to the point of going to Best Buy to get one just so I can try it and see.... because apparently no one here has one.

Rule of thumb is no for all Verizon phones.
Some people seems to do it by calling up tech support and trying to fool the other side that they have a non-Verizon device, but I don't think it's worth the effort.

eksasol said:
Rule of thumb is no for all Verizon phones.
Some people seems to do it by calling up tech support and trying to fool the other side that they have a non-Verizon device, but I don't think it's worth the effort.
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I would agree....if it weren't for the unlocked Nexus 6 I am currently using on Verizon. I understand that it is pretty unlikely for a non-nexus phone to be bootloader unlockable on VZW, but I am in need of a new phone and current deals have a z2 and a Pixel for the same price. I'd prefer this phone over a gen1 Pixel (assuming the VZW z2 is unlockable, ofc), so I'd like to know for sure and someone has one, so someone knows for sure.

I chatted with a VZW rep and they said there is no VZW specific Moto Z2 Play and the one you get from VZW comes straight from Motorola. When pressed for a concrete answer on the unlock-ability of the bootloader, I was given a link to chat with Motorola with the suggestion they'd have more detail. However, that chat didn't go far as the Moto mobile rep said they have no info on the bootloader, then gave a link to the Bootloader Unlock program (on which the z2 is not listed).

hooah212002 said:
I chatted with a VZW rep and they said there is no VZW specific Moto Z2 Play and the one you get from VZW comes straight from Motorola. When pressed for a concrete answer on the unlock-ability of the bootloader, I was given a link to chat with Motorola with the suggestion they'd have more detail. However, that chat didn't go far as the Moto mobile rep said they have no info on the bootloader, then gave a link to the Bootloader Unlock program (on which the z2 is not listed).
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Yeah that is why I have a feeling it might be unlockable... if there was a VZW version of the phone, it would be the Droid Z2, not the Moto Z2.
Also the bootloader unlock page says the list is not inclusive of all the models. You can try to unlock it and see what happens.
After this info, I feel more confident about giving this a try, so I am going to order a VZW Z2 Play from Best Buy tonight so I can pick it up tomorrow (I would do it now but I don't have my Best Buy credit card on me for the pickup). I recently learned that there is no restocking fee if I buy a phone and return it in Ohio, so I feel like its worth a try at least as I won't be out anything but time if I don't want to keep it.

Hello everyone. I went all the hassle to buy the verizon phone all the way from china to the usa and guess what? CANT BE UNLOCKED!!! DONT WASTE YOUR FRICKING TIME. So no. I would ask devs next time under the root forum to please indicate what they used to root and unlock the bootloader. Because Verizon cannot. Thanks bye
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knightcrusader said:
yeah that is why i have a feeling it might be unlockable... If there was a vzw version of the phone, it would be the droid z2, not the moto z2.
Also the bootloader unlock page says the list is not inclusive of all the models. You can try to unlock it and see what happens.
After this info, i feel more confident about giving this a try, so i am going to order a vzw z2 play from best buy tonight so i can pick it up tomorrow (i would do it now but i don't have my best buy credit card on me for the pickup). I recently learned that there is no restocking fee if i buy a phone and return it in ohio, so i feel like its worth a try at least as i won't be out anything but time if i don't want to keep it.
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you guys are all wrong. The phone had the verizon logo on it and it came straight from moto. It sucks that it can't be unlocked. So dont waste your time. I hate the moto service too because they all are from india and think I mean that i want it carrier unlocked. they don't know what boot loader unlocking is.
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And before all of you ask, yet I bought it from the motorola site and the only option to buy is the verizon version. the gsm one doesn't come out til later. So don't waste your time buying this phone if you want it to be an unlocked bootloader. Just an FYI. And it does come with the verizon logo on it. You can't buy it otherwise. I am pretty pissed off though because I did prior speak to a rep that was a tech that said it could be unlocked even if it was verizon, but what a liar. He must have thought I meant carrier, I am about done with motorola. I have the g5 plus right now and its great but I am tired of the bullsh&t verizon does by not allowing the bootloader to unlock. Like f*ck you verizon.

ihatevz said:
the gsm one doesn't come out til later. So don't waste your time buying this phone if you want it to be an unlocked bootloader.
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Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.

KnightCrusader said:
Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.
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nope. Bootloader is locked. Don't waste your money
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KnightCrusader said:
Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.
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Oh I reread. But nah I asked verizon on that already. They said that unless it has cdma with it that it wont work. So it sucks

ihatevz said:
Hello everyone. I went all the hassle to buy the verizon phone all the way from china to the usa and guess what? CANT BE UNLOCKED!!! DONT WASTE YOUR FRICKING TIME. So no. I would ask devs next time under the root forum to please indicate what they used to root and unlock the bootloader. Because Verizon cannot. Thanks bye.
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Sorry that you had to have such an experience, but thanks for being the guinea pig. You can at least hang your hat on that, I suppose. Greater good and all that jazz.

ihatevz said:
But nah I asked verizon on that already. They said that unless it has cdma with it that it wont work.
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So they actually said the unlocked version wouldn't have CDMA? Or just their canned line of "the phone has to have CDMA to be part of this network" they rattle off?
Also, wouldn't a phone with VoLTE work if it had VZW LTE bands even without CDMA?

He said it wouldn't come in the cdma form but who knows how he got that...

It's true. The phone only gets LTE. No CDMA roaming. Also texts don't get marked as sent, they do get sent to recipients, but your phone displays not sent.
I literally have tried every firmware, reflashing every modem. I've tried even flashing prl files on it, nothing. It's missing whatever the radio band or whatever it's called, that allows for roaming on verizons network. This means no 3g and no 1x. I often wake up with no bars at all anymore. It takes some time to reconnect. It's pretty bad, not sustainable for a phone.

Switch to...?

Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...

I don't think that the bootloader may get cracked on the Verizon Pixel 2/Xl. However, you will get updated for 3 yrs, that's enough for me to switch.

Hell-Razor said:
Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...
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You will not get lucky with an unlockable BL. Next question?
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Scottay5150 said:
You will not get lucky with an unlockable BL. Next question?
Sent from the UnderWorld via Pixel XL. [emoji12]
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This forum really needs to clean out the trolls.

Hell-Razor said:
This forum really needs to clean out the trolls.
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Reality is, if you have a Verizon 2 XL chances of ever having a bootloader unlock exploit is near 0%.
If you have a Google 2 XL chances are 100%.

Hell-Razor said:
Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...
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It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
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Andebad said:
It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
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I may just stick with my s8+. It is a decent phone and there is a working root so far. I would like to compile android though (to be honest I am not sure what you can really do without bootloader access and roms as far as I am concerned).

Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?

beezar said:
Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?
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No, the only difference between the two phones is Verizon locks the bootloader from the factory. Inserting a Verizon sim only triggers the play store to download 3 bloat apps which can be removed. The advantage I guess is that your getting device support / protection / warranty through Verizon in which case you are overnighted a new phone if anything goes wrong and can bring your problem to a local shop vs dealing with Google. Their deals and trade-in programs are much more robust than Google's as well. Bottom line for the average user that doesn't plan on rooting or installing custom ROMs it really makes no difference. All software updates come from Google not Verizon as well with the pixel phones so it makes no difference there.
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Andebad said:
It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Same here!
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beezar said:
Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?
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No it doesn't.

root verizon pixel 3xl

My oem unlock is greyed out what gives? I'm using it on T-Mobile.

blankit said:
My oem unlock is greyed out what gives? I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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It's still a Verizon phone and blocked for root. The sim card has nothing to do with it, its the IEMI that matters. Mine was purchased from Google and unocked just fine with a Verizon sim in it.

blankit said:
My oem unlock is greyed out what gives? I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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Not possible. Your Verizon variant phone cannot be "bootloader unlocked" and rooted, however you can use it on other networks because it is "carrier SIM unlocked". If you were interested in a bootloader unlocked phone you should have purchased an unlocked Google variant.

I see it more like google.are idiots and dont explain verry well what they sell... Why would anyone actually buy a phone that is OEM locked purposely?
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paascal said:
I see it more like google.are idiots and dont explain verry well what they sell... Why would anyone actually buy a phone that is OEM locked purposely?
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Because the Verizon model was cheaper, so if root was not important people would buy it. Or they get it for free on a Verizon plan.

paascal said:
I see it more like google.are idiots and dont explain verry well what they sell... Why would anyone actually buy a phone that is OEM locked purposely?
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If you don't know by now that Verizon locks their bootloaders then it's your own fault.

wangdaning said:
Because the Verizon model was cheaper, so if root was not important people would buy it. Or they get it for free on a Verizon plan.
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Nothing is free. Certainly not a device where you pay ~30 / month over 2 years. Which means they are not cheaper by any means. However, you can roll it into you carrier plan without the extra credit check or 3rd party financing.
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blankit said:
My oem unlock is greyed out what gives? I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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Where did you buy it and when?

bobby janow said:
Nothing is free. Certainly not a device where you pay ~30 / month over 2 years. Which means they are not cheaper by any means. However, you can roll it into you carrier plan without the extra credit check or 3rd party financing.
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Where did you buy it and when?
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mine was only 200 after a 730$ credit lol

elliwigy said:
mine was only 200 after a 730$ credit lol
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Ok but that's not the going price so it doesn't count. Lol.

spotmark said:
If you don't know by now that Verizon locks their bootloaders then it's your own fault. Have you been living under a rock?
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Please explain cause Verizon dont even know themselves and cant make the difference between carrier unlocked and unlocked os
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paascal said:
Please explain cause Verizon dont even know themselves and cant make the difference between carrier unlocked and unlocked os
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I don't know about you, but when I take up a new hobby, I do research before I run out and buy expensive equipment. Every hobby has it's basics and common knowledge. Verizon locked bootloaders is common knowledge and it doesn't take a lot of work to discover that. So, if someone is negligent in doing their research, how is that anyone's fault but their own? As far as Verizon employees go, the people on the phone or in the stores may not know about locked bootloaders, just like a car salesman may not know what kind of turbo a car has or how much boost, but the people in R & D sure do.

spotmark said:
As far as Verizon employees go, the people on the phone or in the stores may not know about locked bootloaders, just like a car salesman may not know what kind of turbo a car has or how much boost, but the people in R & D sure do.
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Touché!

Scott said:
Touché!
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What's R&D

Dookieman76 said:
What's R&D
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https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/R&D:cool:

Dookieman76 said:
What's R&D
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Research and development

spotmark said:
I don't know about you, but when I take up a new hobby, I do research before I run out and buy expensive equipment. Every hobby has it's basics and common knowledge. Verizon locked bootloaders is common knowledge and it doesn't take a lot of work to discover that. So, if someone is negligent in doing their research, how is that anyone's fault but their own? As far as Verizon employees go, the people on the phone or in the stores may not know about locked bootloaders, just like a car salesman may not know what kind of turbo a car has or how much boost, but the people in R & D sure do.
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Well put.

Flashing unlocked US firmware on verizon note 10 to carrier unlock

Can i flash unlocked US firmware on verizon note 10? I am using the phone outside the US and whenever i insert a sim card it works for a few moments and then the change carrier notification pops up. I think the phone modem is unlocked and it has something to do with the software.
The notification comes from the dialer app.
Please help.

Tarar said:
Can i flash unlocked US firmware on verizon note 10? I am using the phone outside the US and whenever i insert a sim card it works for a few moments and then the change carrier notification pops up. I think the phone modem is unlocked and it has something to do with the software.
The notification comes from the dialer app.
Please help.
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I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)

SantinoInc said:
I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)
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Verizon phones used to be unlocked from day 1. They recently just started the 60 day rule before it's unlocked... Within the last 2 months

Tarar said:
Can i flash unlocked US firmware on verizon note 10? I am using the phone outside the US and whenever i insert a sim card it works for a few moments and then the change carrier notification pops up. I think the phone modem is unlocked and it has something to do with the software.
The notification comes from the dialer app.
Please help.
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It would seem that the phone is locked to verizon for 60 days. I imagine you need to have a valid verizon sim card inserted and active on a line for the 60 days. The unlocking is supposed to be automatic.
For reference here is the policy from Verizon:
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
If anything I would call verizon and double check with them to confirm the above is true, and the phone qualifies for that 60 day unlock.
But to answer the question you should be able too. So long as your doing something like flashing the N975U with the N975U1 firmware.
Also flashing the U1 firmware will not have any impact with carrier/network unlocking. The term "unlocked firmware" infers the firmware is from the phone bought from Samsung. The U1 model from samsung is carrier unlocked and has no carrier bloat.

I know that the flashing a different rom doesn't really sim unlock the phone.But in this case the sim actually works for a breif amount of time untill a software notification which comes from the dialer app pops up and blocks it.
Isn't there a chance that flashing a bloat free snapdragon rom might actually do the trick?

Tarar said:
I know that the flashing a different rom doesn't really sim unlock the phone.But in this case the sim actually works for a breif amount of time untill a software notification which comes from the dialer app pops up and blocks it.
Isn't there a chance that flashing a bloat free snapdragon rom might actually do the trick?
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No, I tried that and it didn't work for me. Still got the same notification

SantinoInc said:
No, I tried that and it didn't work for me. Still got the same notification
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Are you using the phone in the US or outside US?

Tarar said:
Are you using the phone in the US or outside US?
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In the US

Flashing ROM made for unlocked phone will not remove SIM lock on locked phone

SantinoInc said:
I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)
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If its blacklisted in verizon and I want to use it outside the us. Is unlocking the device gonna make other sim work, just not verizon or any us sim correct?

SantinoInc said:
I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)
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You are correct.

SPRenzJ said:
If its blacklisted in verizon and I want to use it outside the us. Is unlocking the device gonna make other sim work, just not verizon or any us sim correct?
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If the phone is blacklisted it is either reported as lost/stolen, an unreturned insurance claim or was financed but never paid off fully..
Don't think xda allows this line of discussion on the forum because of the potential liability for theft of service/device.

SantinoInc said:
I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)
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So no issue flashing the unlocked firmware on a Verizon note 10 to de bloat everything ?
Wanting to get the one UI 2.0 beta but didn't know if it was possible.

SantinoInc said:
I had the same issue after buying a supposedly "unlocked" Verizon N10+ Even after flashing the U1 (unbranded) firmware I still got the same message you did. The phone is locked to Verizon. I believe that after 60 days the lock comes off (assuming the phone isn't blacklisted)
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My phone was blacklisted and they changed the imei number. It is now unlocked to all carriers but I can't sell it back to T-Mobile or Samsung because it is not the original imei
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Tarar said:
I know that the flashing a different rom doesn't really sim unlock the phone.But in this case the sim actually works for a breif amount of time untill a software notification which comes from the dialer app pops up and blocks it.
Isn't there a chance that flashing a bloat free snapdragon rom might actually do the trick?
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway
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SantinoInc said:
No, I tried that and it didn't work for me. Still got the same notification
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway
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GuestD0990 said:
If its blacklisted in verizon and I want to use it outside the us. Is unlocking the device gonna make other sim work, just not verizon or any us sim correct?
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway

officerstyles bypassing the blacklist that phone is presently on is borderline fraud and/or theft of service.
The blacklist exists for a reason and not a trivial one either. If the phone landed on that blacklist it did so for a very good reason (i.e. It was financed but not paid off, stolen/lost, an insurance claim that wasn't returned, etc).

officerstyles said:
My phone was blacklisted and they changed the imei number. It is now unlocked to all carriers but I can't sell it back to T-Mobile or Samsung because it is not the original imei
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway
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I had my n976v imei # changed. Because the person I bought it from blacklisted It. It now works on all networks but I can't sell it to T-Mobile or Samsung etc. Only privately. Which is fine because I'm keeping the phone anyway
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I contacted Verizon a few times and they say that phone is unlocked yet the notification still appears. How much did it cost to change the imei?

SO, not to hijack this thread, but the topic/title fits what I am trying to do. My VZW Note 10 + is passed the 60 days, an is "unlocked". I flashed the unlocked U1 firmware, and have a ATT/Firstnet sim in it, and it is working fine. I can't seem the get it to change like my note 9. On my 10+, even with the ATT/Firstnet sim, it shows (VZW/VZW/VZW), where on my note 9 it shows (ATT/ATT/VZW).
Can I get my note 10+ to show ATT? I also had to change my voicemail number manually to work for ATT.
Thanks for any info and assistance.

docchaos said:
SO, not to hijack this thread, but the topic/title fits what I am trying to do. My VZW Note 10 + is passed the 60 days, an is "unlocked". I flashed the unlocked U1 firmware, and have a ATT/Firstnet sim in it, and it is working fine. I can't seem the get it to change like my note 9. On my 10+, even with the ATT/Firstnet sim, it shows (VZW/VZW/VZW), where on my note 9 it shows (ATT/ATT/VZW).
Can I get my note 10+ to show ATT? I also had to change my voicemail number manually to work for ATT.
Thanks for any info and assistance.
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Did you take the sim card out, flash it with U1 firmware (using the csc_*** and not the home_csc), perform a factory data reset after successful flashing and then put your sim card in (and allow the restart to apply settings change for the sim card)?
That's the process I followed before and it worked. If I skipped a step it ended up with things not working like they should be.

Ok. So flash U1, then let boot up. Should reset in software or in the recovery menu? Then after reset, go through setup with sim during boot?

docchaos said:
Ok. So flash U1, then let boot up. Should reset in software or in the recovery menu? Then after reset, go through setup with sim during boot?
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*Flash u1 and let it boot up after successfully flashing
*Go through setup, skip all as many options you can until done
*Factory data reset the phone (not in the recovery menu)
*After phone is done with FDR set it back up again
*once setup is done put your sim card in and let it restart
This is pretty much what I did

Unlocking Note 10+

I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?

bebzbebz said:
louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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There are some csc's that re-enable some of those settings. I can't remember which one's but you can find that info with google. The cleanest method is to root, but i can understand that you don't want to.
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..

Gotta disagree....Viper4A is a must for me along with a handful other apps that require root, and being able to edit the cscfeatures and build.prop are also essential.
Of course this pertains to my use.
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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For the Pixel 4XL you can either buy the unlocked version from the Google store or BestBuy, Both can be bootloader unlocked. There are only a few custom kernels and mods to flash and no ROMs with the 4XL. Personally after owning one for about two weeks I would stay away from the 4XL because Google cut too many corners this year for the price they want. It's a decent phone but the build quality isn't the best and it's lacking in features. I'm not a fan of the thin aluminum and plastic frame Jerryrig pointed out on youtube. Between the two your money would be more wisely spent with the Note 10 @louforgiveno is talking about. I had the US snapdragon Note 10 for about two weeks as well but settled on the Iphone 11 Pro Max to change things up for a while. The Note is far superior to the Pixel for build quality and features. Both cameras have their good points and bad so that's not much of a concern.

louforgiveno said:
You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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Can you provide a link to the guide?

pdaddy said:
Can you provide a link to the guide?
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Sure....here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3983257
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RCS and Recording
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?

bebzbebz said:
Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
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If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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louforgiveno said:
If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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BigE said:
The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
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I mostly agree with you but really would like to have a bloatware free load and full administrator rights.
Ran/run all my Windows machines like that with very few issues.
Without PD MDM my Note is a mess; about 60 blocked apks. As such it runs very well and is very customized... sweet.
My biggest grip...
The phone's OS load should be fully clonable to make reloads as painless as possible; >60 minutes instead of 8+ hours. That's pure bs.
It has a huge SD card to act as a data drive if only the OS drive wasn't all screwed up locked down.
In less then a year have done 2 full reloads due to a buggy 3rd party launcher, not fun.

bebzbebz said:
I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
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Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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