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Can US model unlocked Note 8 from Samsung be 'converted' to a Verizon branded Note 8?

Please accept my apologies if this has been asked/answered ad nausem, but after searching the forums I still don't have a clear answer.
As the title suggests, I want to know if it's possible to convert the Note 8 I purchased from Samsung into the version that Verizon sells in the US? Is there a process I can follow to reinstall the ROM on this with the Verizon version to include the bootloader so that it has the exact same image, bootloader, software, etc. as if it were purchased as a Verizon branded phone?
If there isn't a process I can follow, by chance can a Verizon Wireless corporate store do this?
I've been a Verizon Wireless customer over 10 years and have always purchased their branded phones, however with this Note 8 I decided to go with the unlocked version from Samsung directly and now I'm thinking I should've went with the Verizon version. Hoping there's a way to put the complete Verizon build onto this phone.

See this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
It's a bit involved but once everything is downloaded only takes ~30 minutes.
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I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.

avengethis1 said:
I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.
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I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.

droidnew said:
I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.
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Any difference in battery life

wcr84 said:
Any difference in battery life
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I haven't noticed any difference at all.

Does wifi calling work on Verizon?

Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.

seemcity said:
Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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What benefit do Verizon customers receive by using this band? And are Verizon customers already on this band?
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *
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This band is not yet available on Verizon, but it will be used when Verizon activates Gigabits LTE.

seemcity said:
Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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Is that a difference in the hardware, or the firmware?
I.e. will you be able to flash an Unlocked phone with Verizon firmware and use Band 46?

I have note 8 unlocked. I flashed Verizon firmware and have band 46. I checked band selection in service menu, band 46 has a star next to it. It means that this will be usable when Verizon activates it. Unlocked firmware doesn't have band 46.

I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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skinnytoo2 said:
I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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Flash Verizon or Xfinity firmware if you want carrier function
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884/page51
Go to OP...post 1

Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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skinnytoo2 said:
Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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It's easy enough...step by step...flash carrier though...not the whole thing lol

I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?

HTCJimmy said:
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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I had the same problem, what I did, I install Instavoice from playstore..

HTCJimmy said:
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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Google voice....or flash carrier Firmware

Hi there. I did create a post for someone else, ill post the link here.
It's for STOCK Verizon or Unlock US N950U or N950W.
I did the test with all US CARRIER firmware and everything works 100%.
Hi there. You'll need to have your Note 8 Bootloader version on level 2, meaning 2BQK2, 2BQJA or anything with 2 before the last 4 digits.
1) tmobile SIM card in device
2) Odin v3.12.7 make sure extract
3) 2BQK2 firmware extract all files
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC.
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329067572 2BQK2
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962157660013069130 2BQL5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bR...u92cktT_f8hIYp
Unlock firmware
1) any carrier SIM card
2) Odin v3.12.5 Prince Comsey or modified Odin, make sure extract
3) 2BQK1 firmware, extract all files.
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291691586 2BQK1
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617955896 2BQL2
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lw...oqy692ClZ36n4U
First instructions is for if you want stock US CARRIER BLOATWARE FIRMWARE, second instructions is if you want SAMSUNG STOCK FIRMWARE. Follow steps and everything will be fine, happy flashing.
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I did heard about Gigabit 4G LTE from Verizon for last month release, but no show yet. I don't bother with the video calls and Visual voicemail, Verizon firmware don't have Samsung cloud, I'm losing too much other stuff to used. All I used is stock Samsung firmware, if Verizon had the cloud no problem, but they don't. Better performance on U1 firmware anywhere and white pages id which is better than what the carriers offer.

How can I tell if my cell carriers Z2's are eligable for unlocking the bootloader?

I've been out of the game for a bit so I'm a little lost, are ALL the z2 phones boot loaders unlockable through the Motorola Devs site, or only the ones from Sprint and T-Mobile? I haven't been to my store to see which particular version of the Z2 they sell yet, but I'm also looking at the LG V30 which I know I need a specific version number (998). What do I need to look for before I buy the Z2 to make sure I can unlock it and flash TWRP?
I used to be an android tweaker back when I was in middle school (about 2009-ish) and then switched to apple. Now I'm done with that and want to get back into android so I'm looking into what phones are out and my tiny local cell carrier offers the V30 and the Z2 Force which are both contenders. I'm particularly interested in using Magisk which wasn't around back in the day
Thanks!

I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.

Uzephi said:
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.

wooddale said:
Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now

mattlowry said:
stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.

wooddale said:
Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
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not unless someone finds an exploit. so i wouldnt hold your breath

Uzephi said:
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.

ctrl+alt+pasta said:
Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable

mattlowry said:
att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable
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Well I'm not on any of those four lol, thats why I want to know if I can tell by serial number or something. Otherwise I suppose I can go buy the thing, try the moto website, and if it's not eligible I'll just tell my carrier I didn't like the phone and since the warranty should still be good they'll let me "test drive" it for two weeks.

(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular

Uzephi said:
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks

wooddale said:
So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.

Uzephi said:
Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.

wooddale said:
Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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That is why I left Vz. Great signal but I want unlock options. Having to use rumrunner on my HTC M7 was a pain compared to just going to HTCdev and accepting the voided warranty. HTCdev, Motorola unlock site, etc will always work. Programs like rumrunner, Sunshine, etc can be patched via update and not work on newer firmwares. No bueno in my book.

I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?

LGtMgG2t said:
I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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Usually it would require the Verizon flash all and then it depends if Lenovo went cheap and put the Verizon specific frequencies for LTE in all models. Most of the time each phone for different carriers are from different batches with tiny hardware differences. Some times the radio is the exact same and the modem firmware file depicts what frequencies are unlocked. (Most of us modders went away from Verizon for what my previous post explains, so possibly no one who has Verizon has tried to bite the bullet).

If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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wooddale said:
If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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Sorry missed the part about not owning I guess they won't carrier unlock unless you own

Uzephi said:
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then

ctrl+alt+pasta said:
hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
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What MVNO do you use?

Uzephi said:
What MVNO do you use?
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Not going to lie I had to look MVNO up but Wikipedia says Verizon. ****...so I guess that means I'm out of luck
EDIT: My company does sell the snapdragon Galaxy devices though. I know the boot loader is locked but they can still get root and I can still run exposed then right? It'll really suck not having a custom recovery but Xposed should give me enough to play with. I'll have to jump over to those forums

Buying a Galaxy S9 Exynos on Ebay with oem unlock

Hello, I live in the US and would like to buy an exynos s9 for the unlockable bootloader.
I would like to know if anyone has a bought a phone from the seller sobeonline1 or never-msrp.
I am seeing that a lot of people have exynos phones and cannot unlock the bootloader, and I would to know if anyone can confirm that these sellers are offering a version that at least has OEM unlock after 7 days.
Thank you in advance,
Almunt

I bought from never-msrp. Yes, it is bootloader unlockable. But don't forget you will lose Samsung pay forever. But! They sell Egypt versions, which means no SPay out of box. So I needed to install Russian firmware and boot it up with Russian sim card to make it work. Anyway, if you don't care about SPay, you can unlock bootloader as soon as you get your phone. Btw, discover cards don't work with international SPay. So kind of useless.
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Also, my partner has s9 on snapdragon, it has much better signal (t-mobile), especially 4g - Internet speed much faster ( like twice), same with wifi speed. Also the interface is faster and smother overall

Oni-X said:
I bought from never-msrp. Yes, it is bootloader unlockable. But don't forget you will lose Samsung pay forever. But! They sell Egypt versions, which means no SPay out of box. So I needed to install Russian firmware and boot it up with Russian sim card to make it work. Anyway, if you don't care about SPay, you can unlock bootloader as soon as you get your phone. Btw, discover cards don't work with international SPay. So kind of useless.
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Also, my partner has s9 on snapdragon, it has much better signal (t-mobile), especially 4g - Internet speed much faster ( like twice), same with wifi speed. Also the interface is faster and smother overall
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I don't think I will be using S-Pay as I plan to unlock the bootloader as soon as I can. I am leaning towards soleonline1 right now because they currently have a lower price. Is the call dropping issue that people with exynos phones are reporting appearing on T-Mobile? It seems like the issue might be only occurring on phones with certain carriers.

I bought mine from sobeonline1. CSC is XSG. I'm at 150h uptime hopefully it'll pop up. I kept SIM in and didn't reboot just in case.

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Anyway, if you don't care about SPay, you can unlock bootloader as soon as you get your phone
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I would just like a confirmation. Do you see the oem-unlock setting on your phone when you first got it? Also what was the condition of the phone when you received it? Some of the feedback seems to be reporting that a used phone was sent.

AlMunt said:
I would just like a confirmation. Do you see the oem-unlock setting on your phone when you first got it? Also what was the condition of the phone when you received it? Some of the feedback seems to be reporting that a used phone was sent.
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My OEM unlock just showed up after 7 days. I did factory reset, SIM in, Samsung and Google account registered, and didn't have a need to reboot so I didn't. I took the most cautious route because I wanted to make sure I have OEM unlock before my return period expires.
As I said before I purchased from sobeonline1. I picked it because it was cheaper than never-msrp. It seems to be sealed but it is weird that out of the box the phone booted up to home screen instead of setup screen. I have no complaints though since there is no sign of use.

I would like to provide an update. I ended up buying the phone from never-msrp and I received an AFG csc phone. The phone was completely sealed and showed no signs of use once it turned on. I received it on a Friday and the next Friday it got the oem-unlock setting about a half hour after 168 hours since being turned on. During the week up to oem-unlock I updated the phone and turned it off and on multiple times. I did not have to change the csc and I did not reset the phone during that time.

Oni-X said:
I bought from never-msrp. Yes, it is bootloader unlockable. But don't forget you will lose Samsung pay forever. But! They sell Egypt versions, which means no SPay out of box. So I needed to install Russian firmware and boot it up with Russian sim card to make it work. Anyway, if you don't care about SPay, you can unlock bootloader as soon as you get your phone. Btw, discover cards don't work with international SPay. So kind of useless.
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Also, my partner has s9 on snapdragon, it has much better signal (t-mobile), especially 4g - Internet speed much faster ( like twice), same with wifi speed. Also the interface is faster and smother overall
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Nobody should care about pay. Yea maybe it's cool, especially in f.exp. in russia to check out 2kg of grečka and prosciuto with a phone but is it really that cool to do it everytime it's not even reliable as card, even credit card is not accepted everywhere nor as dead unfailing as cash
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AlMunt said:
I would like to provide an update. I ended up buying the phone from never-msrp and I received an AFG csc phone. The phone was completely sealed and showed no signs of use once it turned on. I received it on a Friday and the next Friday it got the oem-unlock setting about a half hour after 168 hours since being turned on. During the week up to oem-unlock I updated the phone and turned it off and on multiple times. I did not have to change the csc and I did not reset the phone during that time.
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This what everyone should do. Applaud. Spit into carriers face back. If the law doesn't protect you (things like this must be illegal, but not in the murica freedomland)

Definitive list of differences between carrier locked and unlocked variants

Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know

buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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They are the same phones and can run the same firmware.
I would go with whatever the best deal you can get.

I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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buffalosolja42 said:
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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Who is your carrier?
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buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.

That is what i figured searched the forums a bit but needed something concise appreciate the info!!
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Who is your carrier?
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.

beethoven1854 said:
I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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I have been using it just fine. I will do it on my Note 10 plus and report back my result.

Well there you go, OP. I guess flashing ATT firmware to your unlocked device still works to activate carrier features. Everything else I said is still accurate.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.

Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!

ekerbuddyeker said:
thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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Work in IT daily and easier for wife as it pops up in call.

I would use it, but I use a Google Voice number as my primary number. We used to do Hangouts video calls all the time, but not so much anymore. I guess the romance is dead.

If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?

Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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I have a pre-order deal from Samsung that is between 6-700 can't remember at the moment.
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I always use unlocked devices whether it be Samsung unlocked or Google pixels unlocked but all work like a charm on verizon and get basically free unchecked hotspot

beethoven1854 said:
So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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So interestingly, there's another thread and people who are flashing ATT firmware to the unlocked version can no longer get WFC to work. They said it works for a few minutes if they give ATT an old IMEI number, but the system will automatically update to the new IMEI and WFC will no longer work. Read page four of the thread to see what I'm talking about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/unlocked-samsung-att-tmo-t3956698
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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There's a few reasons:
1. This year the Note 9 is worth $600 towards an unlocked model, but only $300 towards carrier models.
2. The U1 models generally maintain their value a little better than the carrier branded models. Even though it's the same exact device, that little "1" makes a difference for some reason.
3. It's factory unlocked. T-Mo, Sprint, ATT, and now Verizon all come carrier locked. Verizon stays locked for 60 days then automatically unlocks. T-Mo you have to pay it off, or pay cash up front, then wait 40 days with it active on your account before it can be unlocked. ATT again has to be paid off or paid in full up front and then you have to request an unkock and wait for the code. I believe Sprint automatically unlocks it once it's paid off.
4. I've heard conflicting stories, but at least in the past, Sprint was weird about their BYOD program. You could only bring devices with whitelisted IMEIs. That was Sprint devices and factory unlocked devices. If you just got your ATT Galaxy S8+ unlocked and brought it to Sprint, it wouldn't activate, even though it was the same exact device hardwarewise. The IMEI wasn't in their database. So the Unlocked version is more flexible.
5. That ugly ATT box. For some reason ATT will often take the phone out of the nice Samsung box and throw it in a cheap ATT box. See the USA Pre-order thread on here. There's already people complaining about that box. And I'm a packaging guy.
So you might as well get the device that's cheaper up front and holds it's value the best and is the most flexible carrier wise. If you want carrier features and firmware, you can still have them, and no worries ever about a SIM lock. Well except with ATT apparently. If you need ATT WiFi calling and VoLTE, you may be stuck getting the ATT model, from what I'm reading.
Now that said, if you don't have a trade in device, and your carrier is offering a better deal on their model...then by all means get that one.

Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?

akrein62 said:
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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T-Mobile customer here. I had an unlocked S7 Edge that would roam just fine on partner networks, in the US and internationally. Haven't had the opportunity to test roaming yet with my brand new unlocked Note 10+ but I suspect my results would be the same as with my S7 Edge.

N976U - IMEI check failing with Xfinity, Note 10 plus 5G

Hi i got a N976U phone that i would like to use with Xfinity mobile, its failing with IMEI check. i spoke with Xfinity csr to add the imei to my existing line , but he would not add since imei check is failing.
I bought a unlock code from ebay and thought will use it.
When i insert the xfinity SIM it did not prompt for unlock code, i believe this phone is unlocked. It does not have any carrier apps.
I tried with a unused Verizon sim and it did not prompt for unlock code.
Can i flash to any firmware that will make it work with xfinity. Any help is appreciated.
Service Provider SW Ver - XAA/XAA/ATT
security patch level is feb 20.
Baseband version - N976USQSTATA4
TIA !!

Flashing firmware for another carrier won't fix your problem. Xfinity Mobile is not accepting any 5G phones from other carriers on their network now. Not even if they're carrier unlocked, and not even factory unlocked 5G devices. Best thing is to contact the seller (and swappa) explain the situation and return the device for a refund.

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Flashing firmware for another carrier won't fix your problem. Xfinity Mobile is not accepting any 5G phones from other carriers on their network now. Not even if they're carrier unlocked, and not even factory unlocked 5G devices. Best thing is to contact the seller (and swappa) explain the situation and return the device for a refund.
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I wonder if thats the same issue with mine (its 5g also):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/unlocked-verizon-note-10-plus-issues-t4175921

So you can't just insert your sim in it and go? I used to have xfinity and used random Verizon based byod all the time

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So you can't just insert your sim in it and go? I used to have xfinity and used random Verizon based byod all the time
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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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sammyDC said:
I wonder if thats the same issue with mine (its 5g also):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/unlocked-verizon-note-10-plus-issues-t4175921
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.

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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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Yea i had an account already Nd sent my s8 in for warranty and used several other devices most def would've failed imei checks on them

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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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Currently I have a note 8(unlocked) with the Xfinity account and wanted to replace it with Note 10 + 5G. I'm not adding a new line.
I put the Note 8 xfinity SIM in Note 10 + and got a message "Not registered with Network" and was not able to make calls.
After I swapped the SIM and put it back into Note 8 , LTE stopped working and had to reset network settings (That's a different story).
But still not able to use Note 10 + 5g with Xfinity. I saw in forums here many people just swap SIM in Note 10 + and it started to work for them, but im not able to do this
When I spoke with CSR she mentioned that I need to add a new line with Note 10 + and activate it and then transfer Note 10 + to my current number and then delete the new account.
I got a SIM card from Xfinity store and called , but CSR checked imei and he did not want to add the imei and create a new line.

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I have a note 8 unlocked with the Xfinity and wanted to replace it with Note 10 + 5G. Im not adding a new line.
I put the Note 8 xfinity SIM in Note 10 + and got a message "Not registered with Network" and was not able to make calls.
After i swapped the SIM and put it back into Note 8 , LTE stopped working and had to reset network settings (Thats a different story).
But still not able to use Note 10 + 5g with Xfinity. I saw in forums here many people just swap SIM in Note 10 + and it started to work for them, but im not able to do this
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That's good information about your SIM swapping experience with a 5G device. It confirms that even if we have an XM account and current device we can't BYOD another 5G device to XM for now. You shouldn't have any trouble returning it under the circumstances, with Swappa's help.

It might be the sim version, I have had some issues in the past fue to this, notably when swapping the sim from an olf device to the new and when the transition between 2g- 3g, 3g-4g, and the last one, 4g to lte+ when my carrier implemented VOLTE calls, , I received a notification to get the newest sim version to be able to use volte, at no cost for me, in your case, it may be something of the sort, just my 2 cents

I checked the imei in Verizon imei checker and i get not supported, are there GSM and CDMA versions of Note 10 plus ? I thought they support both versions

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I checked the imei in Verizon imei checker and i get not supported, are there GSM and CDMA versions of Note 10 plus ? I thought they support both versions
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US snapdragon versions support both GSM and CDMA networks. This is all about XM and not allowing BYOD 5G on their network, currently.

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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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I just got a verizon sim today. Will place in phone and then harass tier 2 support to help.
Hope it works!!!!!!!
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@TheMadScientist,
FWIW, I just took delivery of a Samsung factory unlocked (U1 device) Note 20 Ultra 5G, and had no problems with my SIM swap (from my unlocked Note 10+). A lot of others (on the Xfinity Mobile forum) have reported difficulty with this. No problems for me. But I don't have the 5G SIM card and don't pay the extra $3/month/gig for 5G access (since it's non-existent here).

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@TheMadScientist,
FWIW, I just took delivery of a Samsung factory unlocked (U1 device) Note 20 Ultra 5G, and had no problems with my SIM swap (from my unlocked Note 10+). A lot of others (on the Xfinity Mobile forum) have reported difficulty with this. No problems for me. But I don't have the 5G SIM card and don't pay the extra $3/month/gig for 5G access (since it's non-existent here).
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Mine was back on s8. But I didn't. I used several trac phone. Straight talk. Verizon devices all on Verizon towers that where already in their systems. I've never tried an outright byod say originally att