(edit)According to user ihatevz in post 7 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72920750&postcount=7), the VZW edition is not unlockable
I see threads regarding TWRP and unlocking etc., but I can't find a straight answer regarding whether or not the bootloader on the VZW edition is capable of being unlocked.
Yeah this is exactly what I want to know. I'm starting to get frustrated about it to the point of going to Best Buy to get one just so I can try it and see.... because apparently no one here has one.
Rule of thumb is no for all Verizon phones.
Some people seems to do it by calling up tech support and trying to fool the other side that they have a non-Verizon device, but I don't think it's worth the effort.
eksasol said:
Rule of thumb is no for all Verizon phones.
Some people seems to do it by calling up tech support and trying to fool the other side that they have a non-Verizon device, but I don't think it's worth the effort.
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I would agree....if it weren't for the unlocked Nexus 6 I am currently using on Verizon. I understand that it is pretty unlikely for a non-nexus phone to be bootloader unlockable on VZW, but I am in need of a new phone and current deals have a z2 and a Pixel for the same price. I'd prefer this phone over a gen1 Pixel (assuming the VZW z2 is unlockable, ofc), so I'd like to know for sure and someone has one, so someone knows for sure.
I chatted with a VZW rep and they said there is no VZW specific Moto Z2 Play and the one you get from VZW comes straight from Motorola. When pressed for a concrete answer on the unlock-ability of the bootloader, I was given a link to chat with Motorola with the suggestion they'd have more detail. However, that chat didn't go far as the Moto mobile rep said they have no info on the bootloader, then gave a link to the Bootloader Unlock program (on which the z2 is not listed).
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I chatted with a VZW rep and they said there is no VZW specific Moto Z2 Play and the one you get from VZW comes straight from Motorola. When pressed for a concrete answer on the unlock-ability of the bootloader, I was given a link to chat with Motorola with the suggestion they'd have more detail. However, that chat didn't go far as the Moto mobile rep said they have no info on the bootloader, then gave a link to the Bootloader Unlock program (on which the z2 is not listed).
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Yeah that is why I have a feeling it might be unlockable... if there was a VZW version of the phone, it would be the Droid Z2, not the Moto Z2.
Also the bootloader unlock page says the list is not inclusive of all the models. You can try to unlock it and see what happens.
After this info, I feel more confident about giving this a try, so I am going to order a VZW Z2 Play from Best Buy tonight so I can pick it up tomorrow (I would do it now but I don't have my Best Buy credit card on me for the pickup). I recently learned that there is no restocking fee if I buy a phone and return it in Ohio, so I feel like its worth a try at least as I won't be out anything but time if I don't want to keep it.
Hello everyone. I went all the hassle to buy the verizon phone all the way from china to the usa and guess what? CANT BE UNLOCKED!!! DONT WASTE YOUR FRICKING TIME. So no. I would ask devs next time under the root forum to please indicate what they used to root and unlock the bootloader. Because Verizon cannot. Thanks bye
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yeah that is why i have a feeling it might be unlockable... If there was a vzw version of the phone, it would be the droid z2, not the moto z2.
Also the bootloader unlock page says the list is not inclusive of all the models. You can try to unlock it and see what happens.
After this info, i feel more confident about giving this a try, so i am going to order a vzw z2 play from best buy tonight so i can pick it up tomorrow (i would do it now but i don't have my best buy credit card on me for the pickup). I recently learned that there is no restocking fee if i buy a phone and return it in ohio, so i feel like its worth a try at least as i won't be out anything but time if i don't want to keep it.
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you guys are all wrong. The phone had the verizon logo on it and it came straight from moto. It sucks that it can't be unlocked. So dont waste your time. I hate the moto service too because they all are from india and think I mean that i want it carrier unlocked. they don't know what boot loader unlocking is.
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And before all of you ask, yet I bought it from the motorola site and the only option to buy is the verizon version. the gsm one doesn't come out til later. So don't waste your time buying this phone if you want it to be an unlocked bootloader. Just an FYI. And it does come with the verizon logo on it. You can't buy it otherwise. I am pretty pissed off though because I did prior speak to a rep that was a tech that said it could be unlocked even if it was verizon, but what a liar. He must have thought I meant carrier, I am about done with motorola. I have the g5 plus right now and its great but I am tired of the bullsh&t verizon does by not allowing the bootloader to unlock. Like f*ck you verizon.
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the gsm one doesn't come out til later. So don't waste your time buying this phone if you want it to be an unlocked bootloader.
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Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.
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Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.
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nope. Bootloader is locked. Don't waste your money
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Well then here's the $64,000 question... will the unlocked phone support Verizon? Cause the Moto Z Unlocked does not.
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Oh I reread. But nah I asked verizon on that already. They said that unless it has cdma with it that it wont work. So it sucks
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Hello everyone. I went all the hassle to buy the verizon phone all the way from china to the usa and guess what? CANT BE UNLOCKED!!! DONT WASTE YOUR FRICKING TIME. So no. I would ask devs next time under the root forum to please indicate what they used to root and unlock the bootloader. Because Verizon cannot. Thanks bye.
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Sorry that you had to have such an experience, but thanks for being the guinea pig. You can at least hang your hat on that, I suppose. Greater good and all that jazz.
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But nah I asked verizon on that already. They said that unless it has cdma with it that it wont work.
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So they actually said the unlocked version wouldn't have CDMA? Or just their canned line of "the phone has to have CDMA to be part of this network" they rattle off?
Also, wouldn't a phone with VoLTE work if it had VZW LTE bands even without CDMA?
He said it wouldn't come in the cdma form but who knows how he got that...
It's true. The phone only gets LTE. No CDMA roaming. Also texts don't get marked as sent, they do get sent to recipients, but your phone displays not sent.
I literally have tried every firmware, reflashing every modem. I've tried even flashing prl files on it, nothing. It's missing whatever the radio band or whatever it's called, that allows for roaming on verizons network. This means no 3g and no 1x. I often wake up with no bars at all anymore. It takes some time to reconnect. It's pretty bad, not sustainable for a phone.
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Wondering if anyone here has any experience or recommendations. I moved to an area where T-Mobile service is terrible. I'm considering doing the straight talk bring your phone option and getting the AT&T compatible sim since my phone is unlocked. I'm not sure how this would work as far as what radio i'd need to flash and whether other people have had good experiences with straight talk especially using a "tmobile" device with the at&t sim/service.
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Wondering if anyone here has any experience or recommendations. I moved to an area where T-Mobile service is terrible. I'm considering doing the straight talk bring your phone option and getting the AT&T compatible sim since my phone is unlocked. I'm not sure how this would work as far as what radio i'd need to flash and whether other people have had good experiences with straight talk especially using a "tmobile" device with the at&t sim/service.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue.. I need to find a way to sim unlock my phone for free and if not free then something pretty cheap because I refuse to pay 25$ to websites i question are reliable or not. If you find anything post it and ill do the same for you. Also Straight talk sells sim cards for their service for 10$ if you didnt already know.
With straight talk bring your phone it operates off tmobile and or at&t towers and is gsm. Verizon is cdma and from what i've seen on the straight talk website they don't do cdma. Regarding an unlock call the carrier and as long as you up to date on your bill and have had service for a few months they should provide you with an unlock code for free. There is also a thread around here for a free T989 unlock it's a pretty easy process from what I recall.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue.. I need to find a way to sim unlock my phone for free and if not free then something pretty cheap because I refuse to pay 25$ to websites i question are reliable or not. If you find anything post it and ill do the same for you. Also Straight talk sells sim cards for their service for 10$ if you didnt already know.
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With straight talk bring your phone it operates off tmobile and or at&t towers and is gsm. Verizon is cdma and from what i've seen on the straight talk website they don't do cdma. Regarding an unlock call the carrier and as long as you up to date on your bill and have had service for a few months they should provide you with an unlock code for free. There is also a thread around here for a free T989 unlock it's a pretty easy process from what I recall.
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Thanks for the info, The reason I didnt try getting A unlock code from tmobile before was because i herd you have to have your phone paid off before they would give you one because you could easily just switch service and keep the phone. Is that true? Because im still paying off my phone they add 20$ to my bill each month because the credit of the account holder wasnt good enough. Im gonna try looking for the thread you mentioned though.
EDIT: Also after i unlocked my phone could I use the same sim ive been using until i buy my new one? Or should i just wait to unlock when i get the new sim card? Sorry for all the questions i just wanna be cautious about this so i dont end up bricking my phone.
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Thanks for the info, The reason I didnt try getting A unlock code from tmobile before was because i herd you have to have your phone paid off before they would give you one because you could easily just switch service and keep the phone. Is that true? Because im still paying off my phone they add 20$ to my bill each month because the credit of the account holder wasnt good enough. Im gonna try looking for the thread you mentioned though.
EDIT: Also after i unlocked my phone could I use the same sim ive been using until i buy my new one? Or should i just wait to unlock when i get the new sim card? Sorry for all the questions i just wanna be cautious about this so i dont end up bricking my phone.
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If you unlock you can still use your sim. I am getting a rom put on T-989 right now with a Straight Talk Sim card. I unlocked mine back in April but then got the Note. I was on Tmobile but data was horrible outside the big cities. Have been on the AT&T ST sim since last April on my Note and love it. Just wanted to try the GS2 out again and looking for a decent rom. Having trouble with slim bean and CM.
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Also tell T-mobile you are going to travel overseas in Europe and you want to use some prepaid plans there. They should unlock then even if still under contract.
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If you unlock you can still use your sim. I am getting a rom put on T-989 right now with a Straight Talk Sim card. I unlocked mine back in April but then got the Note. I was on Tmobile but data was horrible outside the big cities. Have been on the AT&T ST sim since last April on my Note and love it. Just wanted to try the GS2 out again and looking for a decent rom. Having trouble with slim bean and CM.
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Also tell T-mobile you are going to travel overseas in Europe and you want to use some prepaid plans there. They should unlock then even if still under contract.
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Well if you want a good rom for the tmobile sii tryout jedimindtricks x3 (Not the version 6 because your calling wont work), its a good rom has the s3 gallery, supervideo, and media player. I would post a link but i need 10 post. thanks for the help though. ima see if i cant get it unlocked by myself first. last resort will be tmobile.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue..
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Both, the phones they used to sell would have either a "C" or "G" at the end of the model# indicating whether it was CDMA or GSM compatible. Not sure about some of their newer phones though, since I think they also have HSPA phones now.
I would imagine the network they assign you to when you bring your own phone would depend on your current network since I think they still operate on both towers.
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Both, the phones they used to sell would have either a "C" or "G" at the end of the model# indicating whether it was CDMA or GSM compatible. Not sure about some of their newer phones though, since I think they also have HSPA phones now.
I would imagine the network they assign you to when you bring your own phone would depend on your current network since I think they still operate on both towers.
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When you buy the sim you can select either Tmobile or AT&T. AT&T has better coverage in my area. You can't buy the sim at Wally World. Only online.
http://www.straighttalksim.com/
Hello all,
I have purchased the Sony Xperia ZL from Mobilicity (Canada) version (6502) and I want to unlock my phone so that I can use it abroad or even with another provider. I paid for my phone in full but Mobilicity does not want to give me the unlock code. Is there a work-around for this?
Thank you
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Hello all,
I have purchased the Sony Xperia ZL from Mobilicity (Canada) version (6502) and I want to unlock my phone so that I can use it abroad or even with another provider. I paid for my phone in full but Mobilicity does not want to give me the unlock code. Is there a work-around for this?
Thank you
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I don't think there is, and since the unlocked versions of the phones are easily obtained, I don't see it happening soon. But since the Z and other phones might have similar basebands, it could happen. How much did you pay for the phone? Could you return it and buy an unlocked version elsewhere?
Paid $700 for it with taxes. Can't return it.
voysturr said:
Paid $700 for it with taxes. Can't return it.
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You can't?? That's very unfair, a SIM and bootloader unlocked version would probably be about the same price. Is that their policy to not unlock phones? I would raise hell with them and make them do it.
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Are you paying the phone off monthly or did you pay the $700 when you got it? T-Mobile in the US for example will not unlock the phone if you defer your payments until you pay it off.
I paid for the phone. Not a fan of contracts. Saved a lot of money on monthly promotions with my previous phone and decided to do the same with this one. Whenever I call, they say that they cant do that or that they have no idea what im talking about.
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I paid for the phone. Not a fan of contracts. Saved a lot of money on monthly promotions with my previous phone and decided to do the same with this one. Whenever I call, they say that they cant do that or that they have no idea what im talking about.
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Sounds like you are stuck unfortunately. You might find an online unlock service that can come out with an unlock code. I suggest you read through some Mobilicity forums, like Howard Forums http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/541-Mobilicity
I've been out of the game for a bit so I'm a little lost, are ALL the z2 phones boot loaders unlockable through the Motorola Devs site, or only the ones from Sprint and T-Mobile? I haven't been to my store to see which particular version of the Z2 they sell yet, but I'm also looking at the LG V30 which I know I need a specific version number (998). What do I need to look for before I buy the Z2 to make sure I can unlock it and flash TWRP?
I used to be an android tweaker back when I was in middle school (about 2009-ish) and then switched to apple. Now I'm done with that and want to get back into android so I'm looking into what phones are out and my tiny local cell carrier offers the V30 and the Z2 Force which are both contenders. I'm particularly interested in using Magisk which wasn't around back in the day
Thanks!
I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
wooddale said:
Thanks would like to know myself. I'm on Verizon but would like maybe to root and wondering which bootloaders can be unlocked and which can't. Verizon isn't to friendly in that respect.
Thanks.
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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stay away from the LG phones if you want an unlocked bootloader. unless you get an international variant they will not be what you want. I just got rid of my G6 because of this. They allow you to unlock your BL on Tmobile but guess what? No fastboot commands work!!! Seems all the new Lg's are doing this now
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Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
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Thanks but I was thinking on the Z2 Force from Motorola. Wondering if the Verizon Z2 Force bootloader bcan be unlocked.
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not unless someone finds an exploit. so i wouldnt hold your breath
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I think only AT&T and Verizon models can't be unlocked unless another carrier out of the US also told Moto they don't want them unlocked.
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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Thanks! Is there a way to differentiate between those that can be unlocked and those that can't based on serial number of something? I need to be able to know before I leave the store because if I can't root, I don't want to switch back yet.
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att and verizon = not unlockable
sprint and tmobile = unlockable
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att and verizon = not unlockable
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Well I'm not on any of those four lol, thats why I want to know if I can tell by serial number or something. Otherwise I suppose I can go buy the thing, try the moto website, and if it's not eligible I'll just tell my carrier I didn't like the phone and since the warranty should still be good they'll let me "test drive" it for two weeks.
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
There is the model numbers for the big four and US Cellular
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So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
wooddale said:
So I read there is a process to carrier unlock any phone correct? So can I buy a TMobile phone carrier unlock it unlock the bootloader and use it on Verizon. Thanks
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Have a friend who has TMobile buy it outright, after 7 days you can carrier unlock it via calling in to TMobile and them giving you the SIM unlock code. The T-Mobile account must be current, phone be active, and must be purchased, you can't carrier unlock (via carrier) unless it is purchased and not leased, rented, amount owed on device. Will it work on Vz? I wouldn't know to be honest.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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Thanks I thought I had something going lol. I did read about getting the code but it didn't go through the details. That is probably why Moto is.not selling an unlocked version. I'm not so much interested in a custom.rom but would like root. I'm in a tough signal area in Wisconsin and the only phones that work well here are Motorola. I've tried the Note 8, Pixel2XL even the Essential none of them are worth a darn signal wise. I have the original Z Force but Verizon so no root. Oh well back to the boards. Thanks Again.
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That is why I left Vz. Great signal but I want unlock options. Having to use rumrunner on my HTC M7 was a pain compared to just going to HTCdev and accepting the voided warranty. HTCdev, Motorola unlock site, etc will always work. Programs like rumrunner, Sunshine, etc can be patched via update and not work on newer firmwares. No bueno in my book.
I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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I first bought the VZW Z2 Force and fell in love with it but I couldn't live without root. I sent it back and went to TMO and got one. TMO signal in my area is terrible, many dead spots. I don't own this phone but I'd pay it off in a heartbeat if I knew I could carrier unlock it and then throw my Verizon SIM card in it. Nobody has tried yet?
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Usually it would require the Verizon flash all and then it depends if Lenovo went cheap and put the Verizon specific frequencies for LTE in all models. Most of the time each phone for different carriers are from different batches with tiny hardware differences. Some times the radio is the exact same and the modem firmware file depicts what frequencies are unlocked. (Most of us modders went away from Verizon for what my previous post explains, so possibly no one who has Verizon has tried to bite the bullet).
If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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If I didn't have Verizon I wouldn't be able to make a call from my.house. That's how bad it is right here and that's only because of a Network extender. You could still try it all you have to do is carrier unlock it and try. Anybody's Verizon sim will work.
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Sorry missed the part about not owning I guess they won't carrier unlock unless you own
Uzephi said:
(Verizon) XT1789-01
(US Cellular) XT1789-02
(Sprint) XT1789-03
(AT&T/T-Mobile) XT1789-04
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hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
ctrl+alt+pasta said:
hmm. It's weird that ATT and TMO have the same serial if ones unlockable and one isn't. I guess the serials won't really help me then
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What MVNO do you use?
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What MVNO do you use?
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Not going to lie I had to look MVNO up but Wikipedia says Verizon. ****...so I guess that means I'm out of luck
EDIT: My company does sell the snapdragon Galaxy devices though. I know the boot loader is locked but they can still get root and I can still run exposed then right? It'll really suck not having a custom recovery but Xposed should give me enough to play with. I'll have to jump over to those forums
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it so that I can unlock the bootloader? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
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I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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That is true I am also using the Verizon variante on TMobile but what I'm saying is my TMobile OnePlus 6t came with a greyed out OEM Unlock option. So I called TMobile and told them I want the phone unlocked and they did it. I just had to factory reset the phone and the option was no longer greyed out. So I'm wondering why can't Verizon do the same for the Pixel? I mean I do own the phone out right no finance.
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
I'm in the same boat but to be honest the whole point of a pixel in my opinion is to get a pure Google experience.. I don't have a valid reason to root to be honest. Also my work apps won't work on a rooted phone so might as well be bootloader locked
As I'm in Ireland and bought the 3xl while on a work trip on launch day I'm tempted to see if Verizon might unlock it for me.. really it's not making much difference to me
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Your bootloader or your sims card,?
Homeboy76 said:
Your bootloader or your sims card,?
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He's talking about the SIM card.
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork... More like they hate people hacking their apps and loosing money.
Last unlocked BL they sold was Nexus 6... Correct me, cuz I did zero research on this... Just my cloudy damaged memory
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airmaxx23 said:
He's talking about the SIM card.
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Thread: Pixel 3 XL Questions and Answers...
Question: Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?
I thought that's what he meant, I asked for clarification.
As for the bootloader, no they will not. I just moved to Pixel 3 XL after getting an OG Verizon PIxel XL right after launch (actually immediately after the dePixel exploit was published or I would have purchased direct from Google or chose another phone). This same discussion along with the same "it's not fair since I own the device" arguments has been going on for years. Look at Huawei for evidence that bootloader locking is becoming more restrictive and not less. You can only purchase the device outright, and even they have discontinued the bootloader code request system. Eventually an exploit might come around, but maybe it won't. jcase pretty much said the original dePixel find was an accident, and it took another year and a half or so to find another for a phone that was already being replaced. Either take a risk that one will be found knowing that it might never come, or bite the bullet and buy a Google version or a 6T (where even if you get it at full price from T-Mobile you might have to wait to get BL and carrier unlock).
MArtyChubbs said:
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork...
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
andy214 said:
Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Easy answer. They don't care about consumer opinion until results are felt. They are concerned with brand, lawsuits , and corporate spending. Look at it this way, this thread was last posted on (by me) over a year ago, and there hasn't even been a sniff of an exploit or getting Big Red to change even once.
Once, a long time ago, Verizon carried bootloader unlockable phones. My Nexus 6 was from Verizon and it was fantastic. Google made a marketing decision for Verizon to push the Pixel OG exclusively, Verizon forced them to make a varient that could be locked down and full of Verizon crapware, just like every phone on their network. OG, 2, 3 and now 4, sold by Verizon will never get natively unlocked. The only hope would be a temp root solution and being able to toggle the unlock in developers options.
6 years ago unlocked "dev" phones weren't readily available, but Google sells an unlockable version now, with financing if you want, most people that want root just buy that.
mackentosh said:
When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
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Yea sell that for sure. I bought a new unlocked P3XL for 400.00 on Amazon last month.
Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
Sickid said:
Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
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I don't think the phone you purchased is rootable. It sounds like it is a Verizon 'Carrier/Sims' unlocked phone, not a Google 'unlockable bootloader' Pixel3 XL.
Homeboy76 said:
I don't think the phone you purchased is rootable. It sounds like it is a Verizon 'Carrier' unlocked phone, not a Google 'unlockable bootloader' Pixel3 XL.
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thanks
Pretty sure verizon version has orange power button anx google green. The one i saw in verizon store had orange button
hilla_killa said:
Pretty sure verizon version has orange power button anx google green. The one i saw in verizon store had orange button
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I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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Sickid said:
Hi, I bought a used one piexl3 xl from amazon (third party seller).
Condition and notes:
Used - Like New
Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked. Can be used with GSM and CDMA networks. Excellent condition, no scuffs, dents, scratches anywhere. Always in a case. Comes with original Box and all unused/new accessories. Comes with thin Black Spigen case. Warranty runs till end of this year with Google and goes with IMEI. Excellent deal and Priced to sell. I Ship Fedex with Signature.*
I guess it is rootble.But the OEM unlock is grey out. I am not sure it come from google verizon verison or verizon directly.
pls help me
thanks
ps since it is a used one. two verizon sms messages in my device and verizon app too.
maybe cheap deal is not a good one.:crying:
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
abranson said:
I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
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So fully global factory unlocked is just a joke :crying:
abranson said:
I have the Verizon pixel 3 non xl, and it has a green power button
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You're description you posted answered your question. "Verizon version but Fully Global Factory Unlocked." Verizon
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Anyway thanks to everyone. I just keep my pixel, and wait for good news for vzw. Root is an bounus for me.
Random note, unlocked Google pixel 3 models have an EID listed on the box vs the vzw version has an iccid. Also Verizon models have an imei starting with 35 vs Google's 99
SIM unlock and Bootloader unlock are two different things. It sounds like your phone is a Verizon SIM unlocked phone which allows you to use on any network with any SIM. But from what I understand, at the moment, all Verizon Pixel 3 phones are bootloader locked. They cannot be rooted nor Bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
StykerB said:
Random note, unlocked Google pixel 3 models have an EID listed on the box vs the vzw version has an iccid. Also Verizon models have an imei starting with 35 vs Google's 99
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Yep, you are totally right.
People really need to start understanding the difference between carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. You received exactly what was advertised.
spotmark said:
People really need to start understanding the difference between carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. You received exactly what was advertised.
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Too funny when even the carrier argents don't know the difference and spout off the same misinformation as private sells and those who purchase from them.
I mean really, when it's stated unlocked it means carrier unlocked. A bootloader unlock would never be described as that. It would say bootloader unlockable or bootloader not unlockable. If a CSR says unlocked it can only mean one thing. On the Google store the Pixel 3s are either Fi, Verizon or unlocked. Does anyone really thing they mean bootloader unlocked?
So from now on when you hear unlocked you now know what it means. If the description is bootloader unlocked you also know what it means. Mr. Verizon man before I buy the phone I'd like to know if the phone is unlocked. Yes, of course it is. You get the device and can't unlock the bootloader. Now whose fault is that?