I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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There are some csc's that re-enable some of those settings. I can't remember which one's but you can find that info with google. The cleanest method is to root, but i can understand that you don't want to.
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I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
Gotta disagree....Viper4A is a must for me along with a handful other apps that require root, and being able to edit the cscfeatures and build.prop are also essential.
Of course this pertains to my use.
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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For the Pixel 4XL you can either buy the unlocked version from the Google store or BestBuy, Both can be bootloader unlocked. There are only a few custom kernels and mods to flash and no ROMs with the 4XL. Personally after owning one for about two weeks I would stay away from the 4XL because Google cut too many corners this year for the price they want. It's a decent phone but the build quality isn't the best and it's lacking in features. I'm not a fan of the thin aluminum and plastic frame Jerryrig pointed out on youtube. Between the two your money would be more wisely spent with the Note 10 @louforgiveno is talking about. I had the US snapdragon Note 10 for about two weeks as well but settled on the Iphone 11 Pro Max to change things up for a while. The Note is far superior to the Pixel for build quality and features. Both cameras have their good points and bad so that's not much of a concern.
louforgiveno said:
You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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Can you provide a link to the guide?
pdaddy said:
Can you provide a link to the guide?
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Sure....here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3983257
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RCS and Recording
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
bebzbebz said:
Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
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If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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BigE said:
The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
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I mostly agree with you but really would like to have a bloatware free load and full administrator rights.
Ran/run all my Windows machines like that with very few issues.
Without PD MDM my Note is a mess; about 60 blocked apks. As such it runs very well and is very customized... sweet.
My biggest grip...
The phone's OS load should be fully clonable to make reloads as painless as possible; >60 minutes instead of 8+ hours. That's pure bs.
It has a huge SD card to act as a data drive if only the OS drive wasn't all screwed up locked down.
In less then a year have done 2 full reloads due to a buggy 3rd party launcher, not fun.
bebzbebz said:
I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
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Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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Has anyone actually physically checked? I saw the Samsung chats, but nothing officially stating they are or are not locked.
Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.
I don't see why samsung, and if not them the companies, have to be dicks about this and screw over their US clients.
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Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.
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It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.
I learned my lesson with the s7 edge and didn't buy the phone right away this time around. My Note 7 with root was amazing, but we all know what happen with it.
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It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.
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I feel your pain. I switched from at&t for that very same reason and now all us models have locked bootloaders, but with all the customization you could do to these phones rooting and flashing isn't really necessary for me anymore. I just like the phone all around. It's a great phone. [emoji4]
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Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!
galaxys said:
Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!
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But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.
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But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.
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Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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True the international versions lack some features but depending on your use they may or may not matter..for me I could care less about any of those so no biggie but others may need them.
Id rather have root,twrp and roms etc
The root on the s7 and note 7 snaps was via leaked engineering firmware and it wasnt ideal...buggy, slow and just a general pain to deal with.
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Rydah805 said:
I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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Yep, I had the s7 edge and rooted it but it wasn't the same as when I had the T-Mobile version of the phone. It was a pain. These phones are great and I rather use it to its fullest. I also use android pay and want to use samsung pay so for me I'm good without unlocked billiards for now. I have a bunch of phones I have rooted that I can get my flashaholic tendency out. Lol. My pixel gives me that pure android feel so having a vendor feel is ok with me. I will be going back and fourth. I also don't know how having an international version will affect the gigabit network update when it comes out.
Rydah805 said:
I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader still eventually got root.
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I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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same here
not sure what he's talking about
skipping the T mobile one again
waiting on swappa price to go down a bit
someone sold one for 700 new and i misssed that
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Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
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You get what you choose. I chose a carrier model because it is superior in network quality. I can't root my primary phone anymore because my work policies flag rooted phones automatically and I stop syncing. For my playground, I have Pixel XL. Fastest updates, unlocked everything. For a reliable phone I have TMobile S8+. Like i said, you get what you pay for and pick up.
I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!
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I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!
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While it is software written by humans and anything is possible. S7 never got an unlocked bootloader. We got root with the eng_boot.imgs, but never an unlocked bl.
But I'm holding hope. The community is full of extremely clever people.
Really sucks, I recall the heyday of the Galaxy Note II and SIII, man back then there were like 200 ROM's out, Touchwiz, AOSP, CyanogenMod, etc... Root and Recovery available the first week the phones released.
And I'm talking the U.S. carrier phones too. Not just the international.
And then they all stopped after the Galaxy S4 came out. They released a firmware and locked the **** down like a Navy sub going deep. Note 3 too LOCKED. And forever the good days long gone.
Except the T-Mobile Note 5 was rooted and ROM. But that was a freak rarity.
Now root and recovery are things of dreams for Galaxy phones.
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Whole reason I moved to T-Mobile two years ago, was for the unlocked bootloaders that T-Mo was famous for, even when Verizon and ATT didn't allow that anymore. The Galaxy Note 5 was their last unlocked phone, since then, the S7, and Note7 were LOCKED, and looks like the S8 is too.
Glory days are gone.
Almost like the Jailbreak scene, which has faded bad, and there's only a stable JB released maybe once a year or every 18 months.
Please accept my apologies if this has been asked/answered ad nausem, but after searching the forums I still don't have a clear answer.
As the title suggests, I want to know if it's possible to convert the Note 8 I purchased from Samsung into the version that Verizon sells in the US? Is there a process I can follow to reinstall the ROM on this with the Verizon version to include the bootloader so that it has the exact same image, bootloader, software, etc. as if it were purchased as a Verizon branded phone?
If there isn't a process I can follow, by chance can a Verizon Wireless corporate store do this?
I've been a Verizon Wireless customer over 10 years and have always purchased their branded phones, however with this Note 8 I decided to go with the unlocked version from Samsung directly and now I'm thinking I should've went with the Verizon version. Hoping there's a way to put the complete Verizon build onto this phone.
See this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
It's a bit involved but once everything is downloaded only takes ~30 minutes.
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I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.
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I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.
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I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.
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I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.
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Any difference in battery life
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Any difference in battery life
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I haven't noticed any difference at all.
Does wifi calling work on Verizon?
Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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What benefit do Verizon customers receive by using this band? And are Verizon customers already on this band?
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *
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This band is not yet available on Verizon, but it will be used when Verizon activates Gigabits LTE.
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Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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Is that a difference in the hardware, or the firmware?
I.e. will you be able to flash an Unlocked phone with Verizon firmware and use Band 46?
I have note 8 unlocked. I flashed Verizon firmware and have band 46. I checked band selection in service menu, band 46 has a star next to it. It means that this will be usable when Verizon activates it. Unlocked firmware doesn't have band 46.
I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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skinnytoo2 said:
I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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Flash Verizon or Xfinity firmware if you want carrier function
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884/page51
Go to OP...post 1
Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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It's easy enough...step by step...flash carrier though...not the whole thing lol
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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I had the same problem, what I did, I install Instavoice from playstore..
HTCJimmy said:
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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Google voice....or flash carrier Firmware
Hi there. I did create a post for someone else, ill post the link here.
It's for STOCK Verizon or Unlock US N950U or N950W.
I did the test with all US CARRIER firmware and everything works 100%.
Hi there. You'll need to have your Note 8 Bootloader version on level 2, meaning 2BQK2, 2BQJA or anything with 2 before the last 4 digits.
1) tmobile SIM card in device
2) Odin v3.12.7 make sure extract
3) 2BQK2 firmware extract all files
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC.
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329067572 2BQK2
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962157660013069130 2BQL5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bR...u92cktT_f8hIYp
Unlock firmware
1) any carrier SIM card
2) Odin v3.12.5 Prince Comsey or modified Odin, make sure extract
3) 2BQK1 firmware, extract all files.
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291691586 2BQK1
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617955896 2BQL2
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lw...oqy692ClZ36n4U
First instructions is for if you want stock US CARRIER BLOATWARE FIRMWARE, second instructions is if you want SAMSUNG STOCK FIRMWARE. Follow steps and everything will be fine, happy flashing.
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I did heard about Gigabit 4G LTE from Verizon for last month release, but no show yet. I don't bother with the video calls and Visual voicemail, Verizon firmware don't have Samsung cloud, I'm losing too much other stuff to used. All I used is stock Samsung firmware, if Verizon had the cloud no problem, but they don't. Better performance on U1 firmware anywhere and white pages id which is better than what the carriers offer.
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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They are the same phones and can run the same firmware.
I would go with whatever the best deal you can get.
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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buffalosolja42 said:
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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Who is your carrier?
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buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
That is what i figured searched the forums a bit but needed something concise appreciate the info!!
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Who is your carrier?
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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I have been using it just fine. I will do it on my Note 10 plus and report back my result.
Well there you go, OP. I guess flashing ATT firmware to your unlocked device still works to activate carrier features. Everything else I said is still accurate.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
ekerbuddyeker said:
thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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Work in IT daily and easier for wife as it pops up in call.
I would use it, but I use a Google Voice number as my primary number. We used to do Hangouts video calls all the time, but not so much anymore. I guess the romance is dead.
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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I have a pre-order deal from Samsung that is between 6-700 can't remember at the moment.
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I always use unlocked devices whether it be Samsung unlocked or Google pixels unlocked but all work like a charm on verizon and get basically free unchecked hotspot
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
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Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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So interestingly, there's another thread and people who are flashing ATT firmware to the unlocked version can no longer get WFC to work. They said it works for a few minutes if they give ATT an old IMEI number, but the system will automatically update to the new IMEI and WFC will no longer work. Read page four of the thread to see what I'm talking about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/unlocked-samsung-att-tmo-t3956698
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If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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There's a few reasons:
1. This year the Note 9 is worth $600 towards an unlocked model, but only $300 towards carrier models.
2. The U1 models generally maintain their value a little better than the carrier branded models. Even though it's the same exact device, that little "1" makes a difference for some reason.
3. It's factory unlocked. T-Mo, Sprint, ATT, and now Verizon all come carrier locked. Verizon stays locked for 60 days then automatically unlocks. T-Mo you have to pay it off, or pay cash up front, then wait 40 days with it active on your account before it can be unlocked. ATT again has to be paid off or paid in full up front and then you have to request an unkock and wait for the code. I believe Sprint automatically unlocks it once it's paid off.
4. I've heard conflicting stories, but at least in the past, Sprint was weird about their BYOD program. You could only bring devices with whitelisted IMEIs. That was Sprint devices and factory unlocked devices. If you just got your ATT Galaxy S8+ unlocked and brought it to Sprint, it wouldn't activate, even though it was the same exact device hardwarewise. The IMEI wasn't in their database. So the Unlocked version is more flexible.
5. That ugly ATT box. For some reason ATT will often take the phone out of the nice Samsung box and throw it in a cheap ATT box. See the USA Pre-order thread on here. There's already people complaining about that box. And I'm a packaging guy.
So you might as well get the device that's cheaper up front and holds it's value the best and is the most flexible carrier wise. If you want carrier features and firmware, you can still have them, and no worries ever about a SIM lock. Well except with ATT apparently. If you need ATT WiFi calling and VoLTE, you may be stuck getting the ATT model, from what I'm reading.
Now that said, if you don't have a trade in device, and your carrier is offering a better deal on their model...then by all means get that one.
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
akrein62 said:
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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T-Mobile customer here. I had an unlocked S7 Edge that would roam just fine on partner networks, in the US and internationally. Haven't had the opportunity to test roaming yet with my brand new unlocked Note 10+ but I suspect my results would be the same as with my S7 Edge.
Hello I am coming from a Pixel XL 2 that I had root and so on. I haven't been on a Samsung since the Note 3. Anyways as I stated before is there root available for the Verizon note 10+ 5G ? I am sorry could not find anything on here. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
No root options are available.
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No root options are available.
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Oh no... What other options do I have to get root and 5g on Verizon?
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stalls said:
Oh no... What other options do I have to get root and 5g on Verizon?
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you dont lol..
also to add you cant find anything on it bcuz its not possible
Root is possible on s10 5g. They have unlocked bootloaders. Whether its possible on note 10 5g I don't know yet. Does it have OEM unlock option in developer settings?
Honestly if it is unlocked, it's a good option for Verizon customers.
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you dont lol..
also to add you cant find anything on it bcuz its not possible
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Well let me rephrase that. I guess I'm looking to find out what note 10+ phone I would have to get in order to have root and to be on their Verizon network with all the features they carry like volte and so on. Plus 5G but 5G is not needed if I can't have root.
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Root is possible on s10 5g. They have unlocked bootloaders. Whether its possible on note 10 5g I don't know yet. Does it have OEM unlock option in developer settings?
Honestly if it is unlocked, it's a good option for Verizon customers.
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As far as I know it doesn't have a unlock OEM bootloader option under developer options. Unless I am doing something wrong or overlooking it.
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If it's not present then the V variant is probably locked down. Hopefully t mobile version is unlock since it's a completely different modem, hopefully they just use the n variant that is unlocked.
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If it's not present then the V variant is probably locked down. Hopefully t mobile version is unlock since it's a completely different modem, hopefully they just use the n variant that is unlocked.
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When has T-Mobile US used the N version of any Samsung phone?
Idk but I hope someone can figure out how to obtain root here soon for the Verizon 5g version (unlikely) or I might return the device and then idk what version I should get that will obtain root and play well with Verizon and hopefully have 5g. But will start with root first if needed.
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When has T-Mobile US used the N version of any Samsung phone?
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Sprint does for 5g, this is tmobiles first 5g. Let's hope its international unlocked with T-Mobile apps since it's using the same "5g" chipset.
If not, cool, not a deal breaker but ever since Sprint has, it's given a few people some hope.
Verizon though is definitely locked if there's no eom unlock under developer settings.
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Sprint does for 5g, this is tmobiles first 5g. Let's hope its international unlocked with T-Mobile apps since it's using the same "5g" chipset.
If not, cool, not a deal breaker but ever since Sprint has, it's given a few people some hope.
Verizon though is definitely locked if there's no eom unlock under developer settings.
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Have a source on that? I'm not seeing any N models. SM-G977P is sprints S10 5G model....
The Note 10 Plus has root capabilities if it uses the Exnos chipset. The US & China use the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset & as far as I've read, there is no root exploit. To add to the problem, my Note 10 Plus is a 5G model with the Snapdragon. Is this impossible to root or is it a matter of somebody finding an exploit or workaround in the future?
I also have a Galaxy S4 without a SIM (it was originally a Verizon phone before I escaped their slimy clutches) that is fully rooted & runs more custom kernel android configurations than the original Android 4.1. I have an app that uses VoIP to give it phone capabilities for the ultimate burner phone. But, there is only so much enhancement you can do to a 2015 phone & cpu speed & memory are antiquated, though I've put in a more powerful battery & maxed out the microSD.
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The Note 10 Plus has root capabilities if it uses the Exnos chipset. The US & China use the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset & as far as I've read, there is no root exploit. To add to the problem, my Note 10 Plus is a 5G model with the Snapdragon. Is this impossible to root or is it a matter of somebody finding an exploit or workaround in the future?
I also have a Galaxy S4 without a SIM (it was originally a Verizon phone before I escaped their slimy clutches) that is fully rooted & runs more custom kernel android configurations than the original Android 4.1. I have an app that uses VoIP to give it phone capabilities for the ultimate burner phone. But, there is only so much enhancement you can do to a 2015 phone & cpu speed & memory are antiquated, though I've put in a more powerful battery & maxed out the microSD.
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If you want root you are better off going and getting a different phone. While technically possible, root for the snapdragon note 10s is going to be very difficult and time consuming. I'm not even sure if anyone is working on it at the moment. Even if someone is as I said it is going to be highly difficult and they may never be able to find an exploit they can use.
What about the the N975F version? I can see my oem unloxk8, but its greyed out and I can't toggle it on. What can I do about this?
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What about the the N975F version? I can see my oem unloxk8, but its greyed out and I can't toggle it on. What can I do about this?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/guide-how-to-root-note-10-t3960031
Maybe use the search function and ask in the appropriate thread?
Usually China's version is unlockable, as is the Latin American Qualcomm that usually comes out later. Until the customer base pushes Samsung to make all their phone bootloader unlockable this is just how it's going to be.
You are stuck give up root or find a unlocked device that supports Verizon.
Or give up on Verizon.
No such thing as not possible with such a device it can't be that protected from some intrusive sh.t. Last time someone said not possible, they did few months after with the 'fuzzing' or whatever it was and got a gymbag filled with fat stacks for their service. Depends who gets paid by who for what. Not even 'root key on HSM' can stop whoever knows what's up.
At least get the CPU from a different brand with unlocked bootloader, to resolder on the board to be able to downgrade/have some swapped PBL.
How much does it cost around the world to swap that CPU to be able to have unlocked and rooted software ? No idea about the de-knox-ing the later boot stages.
Just got this phone, and it will be used on Verizon. Searching the Web gives me conflicting information, so maybe someone here can help me.
- Will this phone be fully functional on VZW (does it have CDMA)?
- Is there any benefit to flushing VZW specific firmware (as I read some are doing)?
- This phone has a Snapdragon 855 CPU, and I understand that it cannot be rooted. If so, how is it possible to flush different ROMs to it (confused)
- and lastly, is there anything I should do before I bring this phone to Verizon for activation?
Thanks, and stay safe
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Just got this phone, and it will be used on Verizon. Searching the Web gives me conflicting information, so maybe someone here can help me.
- Will this phone be fully functional on VZW (does it have CDMA)?
- Is there any benefit to flushing VZW specific firmware (as I read some are doing)?
- This phone has a Snapdragon 855 CPU, and I understand that it cannot be rooted. If so, how is it possible to flush different ROMs to it (confused)
- and lastly, is there anything I should do before I bring this phone to Verizon for activation?
Thanks, and stay safe
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Replying to myself:
The phone arrived yesterday, and I did get it registered on VZW. It did not go smoothly.
The CS person at a VZW store didn't share the details of her problems with the registration, but after numerous attempts she was just about to hand the phone back to me saying that it's not compatible with their network when she pulled back saying that the registration did finally go through, but not fully, and that I will/might loose some features, again; without specifying what those might be.
So, overall pretty dramatic, but ultimately successful process. The phone is set to "Global" 'Network mode', and the other options are 'LTE/CDMA' and 'LTE/GSM...'. Hardware info app shows 'CDMA' as the phone type, which was my biggest worry, to be limited to LTE only.
Now, about those different ROMs?
You can't use different ROMs on the 975U1 because it can't be rooted.
The only thing you can't use on Verizon is Video Calling as Verizon won't activate it on a phone you didn't buy from them.
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Yes it can be rooted. Have to unlock bootloader first.
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butchieboy said:
Yes it can be rooted. Its a paid service
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Hmm, do tell.
Will send you a PM..can't post in Xda. Its how I rooted my At&t 20 ultra as have many others
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You can't use different ROMs on the 975U1 because it can't be rooted.
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My bad, wrong terminology: firmware, not ROMs. So, different firmware, yes, different ROMs, no?.
donc113 said:
The only thing you can't use on Verizon is Video Calling as Verizon won't activate it on a phone you didn't buy from them.
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Well, that's a relief. I'm not photogenic.
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Will send you a PM..can't post in Xda. Its how I rooted my At&t 20 ultra as have many others
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Interesting. Thanks!
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Yes it can be rooted. Have to unlock bootloader first.
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I know that, I am the one who wrote the program to unlock the Note 3's locked bootloader by changing the phone's CID to a developer model CID... There is always a way to break something and blow efuses, but then your phone is worthless if on newer models, your carrier is Verizon (and perhaps other US carriers). That's one of the first things they check (electronically) when you call customer service. Depending on the type of contract, they may not even permit the phone on their towers.
Knox is gone, updates are gone, warranty is gone, etc.
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Ok..well I was just responding to the It can't be rooted but now you say you know that it can, and congrats on N3...lol. Was just giving info bro no harm intended.
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Knox is gone, updates are gone, warranty is gone, etc.
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This, and the price, makes it a not-for-goofs step to take, but one for which time may eventually come, i.e. for when the phone is orphaned, but it's still a viable performer. I've had my (2013) Moto X for nearly 7 years because it had unlocked (by Motorola) bootloader.
Still, this is an audacious monetization exercise.