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N9750 HK/China Bootloader Unlock

Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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I received my N9750 (TGY) today and after enabling dev options there is no unlock bootloader option for what's it worth.

sansnil said:
I received my N9750 (TGY) today and after enabling dev options there is no unlock bootloader option for what's it worth.
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How sad.... I had a glimmer of hope when I discovered the S10 folk rooting their snapdragon devices. Thanks for the info anyhow
Can anyone else with an 0 model device, perhaps the DS version, confirm that this is the same across all devices?

rcobourn said:
Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.
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For me root is essential. I use my device as an all around computer replacement when traveling, relying on chroot Linux to use desktop level graphics and video editing software. I also like to configure my environment and take full advantage of tasker and scripting to improve my user experience and workflow. I know this isn't the most common use case and I'm sure for most people unrooted is fine.

Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!

sansnil said:
Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!
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Yay! Thanks a bunch for checking back for me. Pretty excited now.

Hey guys, I am thinking of jumping from my Galaxy S10+ Exynos to a Note10+ (Snapdragon) especially the Chinese/Latin America version, and I want to know if you can unlock the bootloader, this is mostly for me to flash updates via Odin, not for root as I do not use it anyway.
Can you unlock the bootloader of this version?
Can you flash official updates to this device via Odin?
Thanks in advance guys!

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AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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rcobourn said:
Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.
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sansnil said:
Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!
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aromerodaniel said:
Hey guys, I am thinking of jumping from my Galaxy S10+ Exynos to a Note10+ (Snapdragon) especially the Chinese/Latin America version, and I want to know if you can unlock the bootloader, this is mostly for me to flash updates via Odin, not for root as I do not use it anyway.
Can you unlock the bootloader of this version?
Can you flash official updates to this device via Odin?
Thanks in advance guys!
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Wait youre saying certain models come with an inbuilt option to unlock the bootloader?? i believe im using an SM-N975U with TMobile, and because im currently renegotiating things with them concerning an amount, they wont unlock it yet so it can be used with another carrier, and when i've attempted to do so with 3rd party unlock services they were unable to.. So are you saying if i acquired use of one of these it'd be not only unlocked thus able to be used with another carrier but its also rootable even though it uses a snapdragon? Would the only issue be to change the language to English or is there a lot more to it to make it usable here in the US? Which models does this apply to, just the one you mentioned? i believe i considered the unlocking offer for the snapgradragon, but the lack of transparency and being that i'm told it's from china (where Chinese friends tell me the lack of business ethics is unreal)i believe made me very uncomfortable.

You are conflating carrier lock and bootloader lock.

rcobourn said:
You are conflating carrier lock and bootloader lock.
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How? Am lead to believe a carrier unlock means youre not locked to a particular carrier, and bootloader unlock means the operating system files one is locked out from using by a manufacturer, are unlocked to become changeable. Could they be two separate questions? So is there an answer?

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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Would you be kind to post where you acquired it from?

dominick_7 said:
Wait youre saying certain models come with an inbuilt option to unlock the bootloader?? i believe im using an SM-N975U with TMobile, and because im currently renegotiating things with them concerning an amount, they wont unlock it yet so it can be used with another carrier, and when i've attempted to do so with 3rd party unlock services they were unable to.. So are you saying if i acquired use of one of these it'd be not only unlocked thus able to be used with another carrier but its also rootable even though it uses a snapdragon? Would the only issue be to change the language to English or is there a lot more to it to make it usable here in the US? Which models does this apply to, just the one you mentioned? i believe i considered the unlocking offer for the snapgradragon, but the lack of transparency and being that i'm told it's from china (where Chinese friends tell me the lack of business ethics is unreal)i believe made me very uncomfortable.
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Carrier lock means the phone is locked to a particular carrier and is tied to the device's IMEI. Bootloader lock is a security feature installed by the OEM to prevent malicious code from running on boot up. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to root the phone and install custom ROMs. It does not remove the carrier lock.
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gernerttl said:
Carrier lock means the phone is locked to a particular carrier and is tied to the device's IMEI. Bootloader lock is a security feature installed by the OEM to prevent malicious code from running on boot up. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to root the phone and install custom ROMs. It does not remove the carrier lock.
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i believe i clarified something similar if someone decided to read it... can you or someone answer the question instead of conflate two things i believe i distinguished already..?

SM-N975U1 - OEM Unlocking missing - still within 7 days.

Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?

BadBoy2K7 said:
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).

Exynos equals root.

carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!

1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/

SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249

gkennedy88 said:
What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news

try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?

Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.

Unlocking Note 10+

I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?

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Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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There are some csc's that re-enable some of those settings. I can't remember which one's but you can find that info with google. The cleanest method is to root, but i can understand that you don't want to.
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..

Gotta disagree....Viper4A is a must for me along with a handful other apps that require root, and being able to edit the cscfeatures and build.prop are also essential.
Of course this pertains to my use.
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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TomNJ3256 said:
I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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For the Pixel 4XL you can either buy the unlocked version from the Google store or BestBuy, Both can be bootloader unlocked. There are only a few custom kernels and mods to flash and no ROMs with the 4XL. Personally after owning one for about two weeks I would stay away from the 4XL because Google cut too many corners this year for the price they want. It's a decent phone but the build quality isn't the best and it's lacking in features. I'm not a fan of the thin aluminum and plastic frame Jerryrig pointed out on youtube. Between the two your money would be more wisely spent with the Note 10 @louforgiveno is talking about. I had the US snapdragon Note 10 for about two weeks as well but settled on the Iphone 11 Pro Max to change things up for a while. The Note is far superior to the Pixel for build quality and features. Both cameras have their good points and bad so that's not much of a concern.

louforgiveno said:
You can get a European Exynos [bootloader unlockable and rootable] or the Chinese or Brazilian Snapdragon [bootloader unlockable and rootable]
You can use these versions with U.S carriers, just be sure to check the Bands available on the handset and the Bands used by your chosen carrier.
As far as carrier, i am on T-Mobile (with Chinese Snapdragon [SM-N9750/ds] and tmobile has "opened" their network to other handsets. Meaning, RCS, Video Calling, Wifi Calling is working out of the box. No tweaking necessary to get the full features. I recommend Tmobile to anyone asking me.
There are a few Bands Tmobile uses which are not "enabled" on the SM-N9750...band 66 and 71 but for me living in a "big city" opposed to rural, have not noticed any difference in service in the 90 days or so that I've had this handset. (Prior phone was Tmobile branded Note 8).
Also there is a guide for unlocking missing bands for Snapdragon Note 10's however at the moment i haven't seen a calculator or guide to calculate the necessary edits to enable bands higher than Band 44...i assume it will come about in due time...but as stated i have not run into a situation that appeared different network connectivity wise to my Note 8.
YMMV, but look into the info and find what works best for you in your location.
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Can you provide a link to the guide?

pdaddy said:
Can you provide a link to the guide?
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Sure....here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3983257
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RCS and Recording
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I've activated Spam Call blocking and Call Recording....both features "removed" by tmobile as well as other U.S carriers (global too)
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Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?

bebzbebz said:
Can you please send instructions on how to enable the call recording and RCS on the SM-N9750?
Will this allow for future OTAs?
Will both Sim cards still work?
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If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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louforgiveno said:
If you go here to post #96 you can use my Csc that i edited to allow for that plus a bit more.....if you're not on Tmobile, just compare the csc against the one you are using and make the manual edits (ie, false to true etc) and then push it to your phone. (Manually overwrite your stock csc) edit permissions and reboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=80887359
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I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
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I have been a Verizon customer for years, but I want to go back to the days of unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMS and Verizion just no longer allows anything like that. How do I go about finding an unlocked galaxy note 10+ or Pixel 4xl and what carrier should I use with it to get back to an unlocked phone I can flash ROMs on again?
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BigE said:
The days of rooting and flashing custom ROMs are over with U/U1 hardware version (SD). Quite honestly, not really needed on a note 10+ ... I am a heavy user, with many needed tweaks and special security needs. I managed to handle everything on stock ROM..
Sometimes I miss the good old days of flashing and rooting.. but no real need for it..
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I mostly agree with you but really would like to have a bloatware free load and full administrator rights.
Ran/run all my Windows machines like that with very few issues.
Without PD MDM my Note is a mess; about 60 blocked apks. As such it runs very well and is very customized... sweet.
My biggest grip...
The phone's OS load should be fully clonable to make reloads as painless as possible; >60 minutes instead of 8+ hours. That's pure bs.
It has a huge SD card to act as a data drive if only the OS drive wasn't all screwed up locked down.
In less then a year have done 2 full reloads due to a buggy 3rd party launcher, not fun.

bebzbebz said:
I'm not T-Mobile, I'm not even in the US now, I travel back and forth so I need something that works over as many networks as possible. I'll check out the post and see how to do the changes. Does this mean I need to root?
Will this affect future OTA updates?
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Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, root is required to make the edits. You won't get OTA updates, will have to manually update with odin.
Is there any way I can get RCS and phone recording without rooting and losing OTA updates?
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DONT BY THIS FROM TMOBILE!!

I've had my t-mobile tab s7 for a rew days. What I've noticed is that tmo/Samsung has looked the app down so you can't make calls. The Phone.apk is present just not the ability to make calls. Move on to something. Also the oem unlock is missing from developer systems. And to add one last thing. Im unable to send text messages without rebooting the tablet. My model is the T878U. I hope there will be some changes but not holding my breath

Dvalin21 said:
I've had my t-mobile tab s7 for a rew days. What I've noticed is that tmo/Samsung has looked the app down so you can't make calls. The Phone.apk is present just not the ability to make calls. Move on to something. Also the oem unlock is missing from developer systems. And to add one last thing. Im unable to send text messages without rebooting the tablet. My model is the T878U. I hope there will be some changes but not holding my breath
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Same here I purchased one yesterday moving from a wifi version thinking I'm going to be able to sync messages and phone. The apps are there but the setting to sync is not. Very disappointed. I ended up using T-Mobile Digits. It's got to be possible to re-enable calls and text syncing... Maybe root required?

trhuseby said:
Same here I purchased one yesterday moving from a wifi version thinking I'm going to be able to sync messages and phone. The apps are there but the setting to sync is not. Very disappointed. I ended up using T-Mobile Digits. It's got to be possible to re-enable calls and text syncing... Maybe root required?
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I think at this point unless we complain to samsung via the member app enough, it would only be through a custom rom. Its a shame really. Right now I would settle for just getting the text message function working right. It wont send out messages until after I reboot the tablet

Can you not download the Google Pone App? Works for me

So root isn't possible on the T-Mobile version?

coilbio said:
So root isn't possible on the T-Mobile version?
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I haven't even tried it yet. I know ianmacd has several tools to manipulate the tablet but not confident enough to try them. Ive also seen where he has gts7l (s7 5g) twrp source on his github, but not sure if he is ready for that to be released or if he even still have the tablet. I know that he also has a 7+

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Can you not download the Google Pone App? Works for me
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Yes i can and it does work. But still I was hoping for them to make the tablet itself natively work this way. Just dont understand why they wouldnt. So now that would mean i have two lines that I can text from, but only one can make or take calls. Either way, I hope there is someone who has the tablet for tmo and can tell me that it still CAN be rooted and flashed with custom roms. Im so hoping. If not it will be the last time EVER i buy carrier ANYTHING!!

Dvalin21 said:
I haven't even tried it yet. I know ianmacd has several tools to manipulate the tablet but not confident enough to try them. Ive also seen where he has gts7l (s7 5g) twrp source on his github, but not sure if he is ready for that to be released or if he even still have the tablet. I know that he also has a 7+
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Well if there's no unlock bootloader option then there's no way to get root as that's mandatory to patch the boot.
The only way might be to pay for an unofficial bootloader like you have to for the phones if the tab7 is even supported by the Chinese outfit that does this.

So i spoke to tmobile the other and from what i was told that their tablet devices come unlocked (ie no need for the toggle as its unlocked), but will not work unless you have the tab paid off or paid full price at purchase. Is there anyone watching that has the tab paid off that can confirm this?

Dvalin21 said:
So i spoke to tmobile the other and from what i was told that their tablet devices come unlocked (ie no need for the toggle as its unlocked), but will not work unless you have the tab paid off or paid full price at purchase. Is there anyone watching that has the tab paid off that can confirm this?
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They're uninformed. Went back to other T-Mobile tablet forums, they're all bootloader locked.
Even then, there's nothing they can push to unlock it. That's the way samsung sold it to them as a vendor.

coilbio said:
They're uninformed. Went back to other T-Mobile tablet forums, they're all bootloader locked.
Even then, there's nothing they can push to unlock it. That's the way samsung sold it to them as a vendor.
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The problem is that so so many of the CSRs don't know the difference between network locked vs bootloader locked. Huge difference. As I understand it the TMobile network locking is in fact application based and unlocking can be turned off at Tmo server level. But bootloader locking is totally different

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The problem is that so so many of the CSRs don't know the difference between network locked vs bootloader locked. Huge difference. As I understand it the TMobile network locking is in fact application based and unlocking can be turned off at Tmo server level. But bootloader locking is totally different
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Correct, with tmobile however when they do the network unlock it would also (usually) allow for the oem unlock feature to be available or at least thats how it worked with other devices. With this, it should clear any block from that is set by Tmobile, however we will still need to go through whatever process to unlock bootloader.

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Correct, with tmobile however when they do the network unlock it would also (usually) allow for the oem unlock feature to be available or at least thats how it worked with other devices. With this, it should clear any block from that is set by Tmobile, however we will still need to go through whatever process to unlock bootloader.
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Nope. Never has a US version samsung been able to be unlocked by any push update from a carrier.
The only phone was the sprint Note9 I believe, which was sold bootloader unlocked as it was a very different version.
But they have to be bootloader unlocked from samsung.
Everything else has to be unofficially unlocked using sampnwed.
Samsung is very different than oneplus in them allowing carriers to use tokens for unlocking.

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I've had my t-mobile tab s7 for a rew days. What I've noticed is that tmo/Samsung has looked the app down so you can't make calls. The Phone.apk is present just not the ability to make calls. Move on to something. Also the oem unlock is missing from developer systems. And to add one last thing. Im unable to send text messages without rebooting the tablet. My model is the T878U. I hope there will be some changes but not holding my breath
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DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE FROM VERIZON EITHER. Even though my galaxy tab s7 is unlocked, not only does Verizon do the same as Tmobile but Verizon also blocked T-Mobile 5G bands. I wanted to bring my Galaxy S7 to T-Mobile but T-Mobile 5g bands are blocked by Verizon firmware. Good business sense for Verizon since Verizon has almost zero 5G coverage and everyone who wants 5G is forced to Tmobile. And even though its not the blazing fast higher frequency 5G, its pretty damn damn fast compared to 4G and sadly especially fast compared to the only two competitors. And its almost everywhere LTE is now.

Question I really need help finding an unlocked international model for S22 Ultra

I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.

My daughter has the US unlocked version S22. It does not have OEM unlock in developer options. From what I've read in these forums and elsewhere, the bootloaders of US S22/S22+/S22U devices can't be unlocked. Nobody has figured it out yet. I'm confident that as soon as someone does, it will be posted on XDA in big bold letters.

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My daughter has the US unlocked version S22. It does not have OEM unlock in developer options. From what I've read in these forums and elsewhere, the bootloaders of US S22/S22+/S22U devices can't be unlocked. Nobody has figured it out yet. I'm confident that as soon as someone does, it will be posted on XDA in big bold letters.
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That definitely helps. So it's Samsung locking the thing down for whatever reason.
I guess I still need some recommendations on non-US models and hope I can use one of those.

What makes this worse, my S20 (2020) Ultra has no way to get to "OEM Unlock", but the Tab A8 (2021) I just got does. Great consistency Samsung.

S, Z and Note series phones have been locked down since the S7 in the US. And the issue with buying an international phone for Verizon is that the bands you need won't be supported.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control.
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Yeah, this isn't even necessary anymore. Backing up your apps with Google or Samsung works great, and if you want to get rid of "excess garbage" just get the US Unlocked model.

entropism said:
S, Z and Note series phones have been locked down since the S7 in the US. And the issue with buying an international phone for Verizon is that the bands you need won't be supported.
Yeah, this isn't even necessary anymore. Backing up your apps with Google or Samsung works great, and if you want to get rid of "excess garbage" just get the US Unlocked model.
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I rooted my S8+, though there were a couple issues (visual VM never worked again and the battery % never went above 80% except a few times in the months before it died altogether).
I find it a little unlikely that an unlocked model would let me remove things like Game Booster (while I can "disable" it, it still interferes with games) and any number of other unwanted apps. This seems to be a hallmark of US models more than any other....bloat.

You rooted your S8 due to a leaked engineering bootloader, and if you did that, you knew the issues it caused (which you listed) and how difficult it was to obtain root for samsung devices since the S7.

Ar-Pharazon said:
I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.
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if successful please keep me in the loop

Ar-Pharazon said:
I've been going bananas and nuts trying to gather information on the S22 Ultra international models.
I'm certain, with Verizon, I need a GSM & CDMA capable phone so my voice and data both work.
I'm fairly certain I can't use one of the Exynos chipped models, but that it has to be a Snapdragon chip. (conflicting information out there on this)
So I'm thinking I need the SM-S908E ... or the B maybe?
Barring that, for anyone who has gotten an unlocked US model, can you get the Developer Options to appear and if so, does OEM Unlock appear? None of the demo models at Best Buy would unlock Developer Options, but that may just be a demo restriction.
Bottom line, I want to root the next phone so I can install Titanium Backup and get the excess garbage under control. My Verizon bloated S20 Ultra literally has no way to get to OEM Unlock. It simply isn't there.
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If you want to remove excess garbage use adb app control
No root needed, can also remove icons from the status bar if not wanted

skinza said:
If you want to remove excess garbage use adb app control
No root needed, can also remove icons from the status bar if not wanted
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I finally got around to downloading ADPAppControl. All it shows me are com.xxxx apps. No way to see all apps by proper name. or is that only available in the "extended" version?
I'd still really prefer to get this thing rooted properly and use Titanium Backup, which I know works.
Before this I found that Kingoroot was worthless and RootMaster was infected with a Trojan virus.