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Hey guys,
after dropping my beloved Nexus 4 to the concrete floor in May, I bought a new S4 mini in the electronic market because of it's decent size and all the fuzz about having a very good price-performance-ratio.
After a few weeks I already was fairly disappointed.
On an average work day (without WiFi) and little use (~30min OSD) the battery wouldn't last a full day. I tried the usual things like turning off GPS, bluetooth and using Wifi whenever possible (turning it off, when not in range), etc. I also used the App greenify which boosted my deepsleep in Wakelock Detector to stable 85+%.
When using GMaps/navigation my phone is getting hot (~50°C) and battery is drained within minutes. When trying to navigate out of the city (<15min navigation) one day my phone was discharged within 3 hours after a full charge. I got Wakelock Detector, Better Battery Stats and Battery Monitor Widget installed.
The only thing I found out, that when I am connected to Wifi the drain is a lot lower 1-2%/hour compared to when I am using 3G/H+ which results in 7-15%/hour (both when not using the phone), although there is no problem with signal quality. Recently my phone started to bottoming out rly hard when hitting the 20% mark. From there I can watch the battery dropping to 0% within a few minutes.
Things I tried so far:
- turning off features that are not in use (GPS, bluetooth, Wifi when not in range)
- make sure phone gets into deep sleep/greenify apps
- recalibrate akku
- reduce brightness & disable auto-brightness
Setup:
GT-I9195 bought in May 2015 from electronic market chain
CM 12.1 (Android 5.1.1, serranoltexx)
Standard CM Kernel
Baseband I9195XXUBML4
I can provide Screenshots from BMW, WD and BBS. Any ideas how to solve this or what else I could do?
Probably you should use something like better battery stats, to check
- if a service is going mad, then turn it off with disable service to test (most times happens with unclean flash)
- if you have an app with wakelocks
If you can't find anything that way, might be a hardware fault.
Personally if I came across this problem I would return the phone to stock Android and do some tests, see if the same happens again. CM12.1 can have issues across different same model phones. Try the Samsung Phone Info app to see how old your phone is. I'm guessing it was second hand? Some older revisions of the Mini had battery problems. Maybe a new battery is needed? Maybe.. As for the battery draining 20%-0% in minutes I have also suffered this on a brand new March 2015 device. Not all the time though it only happens with randomly once a week. But I put that down to the battery not been fully calibrated and then drained and recharged over the next 3 4 days, as I use a spare battery and swap out the batteries regularly which means my battery is very rarely calibrated.
All that said though I can easily get through an entire day if not 2. And using stock I'm able to get 4 and a half hours on average every time, maybe 4 hours of screen on time when using 3G a lot and GPS etc.
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Hey guys,
When using GMaps/navigation my phone is getting hot (~50°C) and battery is drained within minutes. When trying to navigate out of the city (<15min navigation) one day my phone was discharged within 3 hours after a full charge. I got Wakelock Detector, Better Battery Stats and Battery Monitor Widget installed.
The only thing I found out, that when I am connected to Wifi the drain is a lot lower 1-2%/hour compared to when I am using 3G/H+ which results in 7-15%/hour (both when not using the phone), although there is no problem with signal quality. Recently my phone started to bottoming out rly hard when hitting the 20% mark. From there I can watch the battery dropping to 0% within a few minutes.
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I have had the same problem as you.
I return twice my phone to vendor. But they could do anything.
I solved it with undervolting and underclocking my phone (only the low frequency).
I read from someone, you can undervolting 150 millivolt.
My experience, is undervolting 125 milivolt. and underclocking the low frequency at the minimum.
You didn't feel any difference, behalves that the phone is cooler and battery live is better.
My WiFi and Bluetooth are always on. I don't have to recharge my phone during the day.
It is so effective en transparent that I don't understand why Samsung didn't do it natively.
Hey,
I tried to apply some of your advice and flashed the newest stock rom for S4 Mini (Kitkat ...COE4).
In that process I recognized that the Baseband is not updated by CM and that the one that was installed when I bought it was fairly old (from 2013). Do you think that this might be part of the problem? (I sort of hate the Samsung Rom)
This week when working and not having Wifi all day, I managed to get 2h of SOT and still had around 25% left which I couldnt have gotten before imo. I only lose 1-4% per hour when the phone is not used. But still thats not pretty good, when ur saying you can get 4h with GPS and everything. I also didnt use GPS. And today when I restarted my phone it just went from 40-ish % to 15% without any reason. Any more ideas?
I installed BetterBatteryStats today and will try to give some more insight the next days. Wakelock detector said that I had 85% deep sleep (timeframe 1 day 2 hours).
Try the Samsung Phone Info app to see how old your phone is. I'm guessing it was second hand? Some older revisions of the Mini had battery problems. Maybe a new battery is needed?
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No I bought it new from a electronic store (Media Markt). The app says that is was made on Oct 19th 2014 in Vietnam and that it is original/not refurbished.
How much do you gain by undervolting (SOT or % per hour when idle)?
How do you do it?
maybe the best way is to downgrade by flashing CM11 for example ...
(another way with stock + Alexax kernel + own debloat&freeze ... )
I have the same consumption problem with Resurection Remix LP too ..... very strange !
Lollipop is supposed to be less angry than Android 4.X.X ... but it seem have problem somewhere for our S4-mini sources maybe ,i don't know ...
This night I did some BBS tests:
Setup:
Stock Rom I previously installed (see posts above)
charged phone during evening
set up custom timepoint before I went to sleep
WLAN disabled
all apps greenyfied except those I deemed significant that they keep running (Whatsapp, calendar, Swiftkey, BBS, BMW, etc). Forgot newly installed app hoomn.
I had to upload the logfile to pastebin because it was too long for the xda forum: pastebin.ca/3256568 (I am not allowed to post URLs, sorry)
I lost 14% of battery during 9hrs (-1,6%/h). That's probably not too bad?
93% deep sleep, 33min awake time
Weird things I discovered/things I did not understand:
- negative Voltage loss?
- Wifi runtime 100% although I disabled it
- dominant wakelocks (count > 100, all of them < 30s): Alarm Manager, RILJ1, *net_scheduler*, GCM_CONN, ContextManagerWakeLock, Event Log Service, AlarmManager (com.sec.spp.push.Samsung Push Service), SyncLoopWakeLock, GCM_HB_ALARM
- dominant KWLs (count > 100): ril-fd (25min), bam_dmux_wakelock (13min), radio-interface (7min), PowerManagerService.WakeLocks (3min), mmc1_detect (1min), alarm_rtc, alarm, sec-charger-monitor, smdcntl0, pm8921_soc_lock, power-supply, KeyEvents, smsm_snapshot, qmuxd_port_wl_0, qmuxd_port_wl_1, smdcntl1, mmc0_detect
- Alarms (>20): ccc71.bmw (Battery Monitor Widget), android, com.google.android.gms, com.sec.spp.push
any ideas/assessments?
Hi all,
So i got a HTC 10 UAE edition from a guy two days before. He was selling it at a reasonable price and i bought it from him.
The battery was draining quite fast and i thought it might be a software issue and i installed venom rom, but problem still existed, so i turned back to stock 2.41.401.41 (Which was very hard though) .
Still the battery is draining so fast. The charger came with the phone( Quick charger ) was also not working and now i'm facing the phone's battery is draining so fast. I'm very confused whether that guy have cheated me or not. If this is a hardware issue i think i have to contact that guy soon.
adb battery stat gave me 2580mah full charge capacity and here, i'm attaching the GSAM battery logs.
Please help me on this
Thanks
Edit: Since the original charger isnt working, im using a oppo 5v- 1A charger, is dat matters on battery drain?
Mine was doing the same as yours, quick charge also stopped working. I changed the cable and it solved it for a few weeks, but the drain started again and quick charge stopped again. Tried ruu etc but no luck. I've sent mine in for repair under warranty and should get it back Monday. My guess is either the charging port is faulty or motherboard but will find out next week.
I was having the exact same problem. I downloaded an app called Lspeed (It's also on the playstore) and did some tweaking in that app as well as used the Enable doze for GMS Magisk Module and now my kernel and android system are on par with each other as far as battery drain goes. Not sure why there are only a handful of people that experience this problem but i'll edit this post with screens of my lspeed config if you want to give that a go!
Edit: Config uploaded. Some of those options are personal preference but take a look around and test it out. What you'll most likely want is to enable the light doze optimization and disable the debugging. That will most likely help in your situation.
Very strange, I'm experiencing this issue too, always receive around 2-3hrs of screen on with very high kernel use during standby. Tried flashing Leedroid, Element X to no avail.
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Mine was doing the same as yours, quick charge also stopped working. I changed the cable and it solved it for a few weeks, but the drain started again and quick charge stopped again. Tried ruu etc but no luck. I've sent mine in for repair under warranty and should get it back Monday. My guess is either the charging port is faulty or motherboard but will find out next week.
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Mine is out of warranty. Dunno what to do now. Tried almost everything.
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I was having the exact same problem. I downloaded an app called Lspeed (It's also on the playstore) and did some tweaking in that app as well as used the Enable doze for GMS Magisk Module and now my kernel and android system are on par with each other as far as battery drain goes. Not sure why there are only a handful of people that experience this problem but i'll edit this post with screens of my lspeed config if you want to give that a go!
Edit: Config uploaded. Some of those options are personal preference but take a look around and test it out. What you'll most likely want is to enable the light doze optimization and disable the debugging. That will most likely help in your situation.
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I'm currently running on pure stock. Will try this method soon. How was your battery standby before doing the tweak ?
Have you tried wiping cache? Mine drains fast depending on the load, which is usually pretty heavy daily. Plus, I don't dim my screen much. Never knew the advice command for battery. I gotta try that.
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Okay, so I got fed up with the battery life I've been getting and have looked more into it, I've managed to reclaim a lot of the longevity I had before updating to Nougat without hampering UI fluidity. For reference, I'm using Leedroid 3.9 with Element X v1.08 and was getting around 2hrs screen on, android system and kernel had the highest usage under GSam.
bilibox has the right idea, my idle drain was very high, L speed and Greenify both have options to enable a more aggressive Doze which worked pretty well, I lose ~10% battery overnight vs a shocking 20-30% before. I still felt battery drain was too high when active, I combined ivicask's PNP mod (balanced) with some little governor tweaks in EX Kernel manager, basically, I'm using interactive on the little cluster and elementx governor on the big cluster (which tends to be slightly more conservative in my uses). I also set min performance to 0% and downclocked the big cluster to 2Ghz, I'm focusing on these cores since they were draining a lot of power in my case.
It's not a super extensive list of tweaks nor something we haven't seen before, but I manage around 3.5hrs of screen on now which gets me through the day. Before I would have to top up around early afternoon, the phone is also really smooth and I'm happy with how everything is running. I hope this helps some people out!
ryanjsoo said:
Okay, so I got fed up with the battery life I've been getting and have looked more into it, I've managed to reclaim a lot of the longevity I had before updating to Nougat without hampering UI fluidity. For reference, I'm using Leedroid 3.9 with Element X v1.08 and was getting around 2hrs screen on, android system and kernel had the highest usage under GSam.
bilibox has the right idea, my idle drain was very high, L speed and Greenify both have options to enable a more aggressive Doze which worked pretty well, I lose ~10% battery overnight vs a shocking 20-30% before. I still felt battery drain was too high when active, I combined ivicask's PNP mod (balanced) with some little governor tweaks in EX Kernel manager, basically, I'm using interactive on the little cluster and elementx governor on the big cluster (which tends to be slightly more conservative in my uses). I also set min performance to 0% and downclocked the big cluster to 2Ghz, I'm focusing on these cores since they were draining a lot of power in my case.
It's not a super extensive list of tweaks nor something we haven't seen before, but I manage around 3.5hrs of screen on now which gets me through the day. Before I would have to top up around early afternoon, the phone is also really smooth and I'm happy with how everything is running. I hope this helps some people out!
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Still its bad that a 3000mah battery with a smaller screen compared to other flagships giving a very low battery backup just because of software bug. From reviews, i can see that MM is giving fine SoT as well as standby. One thing i really cant is the standby. I cant even go out for a day trip. The battery will die in just 10-12hrs even on standby.
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Still its bad that a 3000mah battery with a smaller screen compared to other flagships giving a very low battery backup just because of software bug. From reviews, i can see that MM is giving fine SoT as well as standby. One thing i really cant is the standby. I cant even go out for a day trip. The battery will die in just 10-12hrs even on standby.
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That's unfortunate to hear, my battery life is pretty much in line with my friend's S7 now, newer devices can get away with larger displays because the 835 is a bit more efficient.
ryanjsoo said:
That's unfortunate to hear, my battery life is pretty much in line with my friend's S7 now, newer devices can get away with larger displays because the 835 is a bit more efficient.
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Soon i'll have to ditch htc.
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Soon i'll have to ditch htc.
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I restore my phone and did all updates again. My battery still seems to drain very quick .in an hour with some navigation, and little screen use It went from 20% to 1 percent.
I've taken excellent care of my HTC. Before this, I had HTC 8 and loved it, until right at the 2-year mark, a small area of the screen stopped working.
This is the second time I` experience this, and sadly there won't be a third., especially after new HTC removed the headphone jack like the iPhone ... RIP HTC
Well to be honest the past couple days were to weird to me usually i get 5 - 6 SOA over 13 hours
now i get 3:30 - 4 SOA over 13 hours, same usage, and i have noticed that google service consume most of the power, i have installed doze program and kept my eye on GSM battery Monitor, after all the google service kept the kernal wake up for a long time, and keep running the hardware on the full abilities
I unistalled Gsam battery monitor and kernel usage is back to normal...
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I unistalled Gsam battery monitor and kernel usage is back to normal...
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I have uninstalled ForceDoze and Gsam Bettery this morning but still feeling that there is something wrong, i might do some battery calibration on my free time, because i charge my phone only for 90% and it did not get lower than 20% i feel like i am losing the battery capacity
Was having the same issue, and had been searching for weeks to try and solve this. Tried rooting, factory resets, ROMs, everything.
For me the issue was Google Sync, in particular Contacts and People syncing. I disabled those and everything is back to normal. There was a program called Google Contacts Sync (Apps > Show System > Google Contacts Sync). I cleared the data on that, and then went into Accounts and Sync and turned everything off. That fixed the battery drain. I have tried turning back on Gmail, Keep and a few others and still have great battery.
I have the same issue and I don't know how to fix it. Please help
I've got myself a new P6P and basically since day one, every night or every other night it would lose something like 15 to 25%. This is over roughly an 8hours sleep.
Device is connected to WiFi and always on display is disabled.
Gram battery graphs look scary, like Oreo times scary.
Is anyone else experiencing anything similar, or is it just me?
Hibernation while screen off seems totally off at 27% of the time (should usually sit around 90% unless for example streaming or downloading stuff with screen off).
My previous P5 would do considerably better, with an almost flat graph in the same test conditions.
Thanks!
And the most frustrating about all this, is that in 2021 Google still can't provide us an easy way to figure out what's wrong.
Over several iterations they've promised we wouldn't have to deal with crap like this ever again (Doze, Doze on the go), but ultimately when it happens, users have no clue.
I'll have to install battery historian once more. I thought I was done with this crap.
P.s. I'm of course very interested to know what YOUR numbers look like in similar conditions. Thanks!
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
I quite agree. Everytime I get a new device (have usually been from Google), I have to start off troubleshooting battery drain and installing other apps to do it.
Android 12 has light doze now, so after just a few minutes it will stop apps accessing the network, and force apps that need to get some data every few minutes or so, to all queue their requests for the next maintenance window, so this should very quickly after the screen is off, allow the phone CPU to enter deep sleep for most of the time, i.e. nothing is running in Android until the next maintanence slot.
What is likely happening is there is a wakelock stopping the deep sleep from happening, and Andriod remains running doing very little, keeping the CPU awake ticking over at 300MHz.
To test this theory install CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en_GB&gl=US Have a look at the stats, has the phone entered deepsleep and what is the percentage of deep sleep? Overnight the phone really should be able to get at least 80% deep sleep as no one is using it (I've seen 95% on tablets and my Pixel 2 XL overnight).
To run a quick test, reset the stats, and let the phone sit for 30 minutes or so without being used, then go back to app (will need to use Refresh to get the latest totals) and see what percentage you get of deep sleep.
If you find the phone is going into deep sleep okay and overnight is 80% or more of deep sleep, then that isn't the cause of your battery drain, and it is likely caused by either the modem flapping or constantly trying to register with a cell tower, or perhaps Wi-Fi. So your next test is airplane mode overnight.
My overnight losses are around 5% at the moment, I'm only on Wi-Fi overnight, the mobile network is off as I get next to no signal.
Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.
rav101 said:
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
EDIT: just re-read your post and you said you haven't made any of the root-enabled modifications yet, so even more call me amazed. I guess I'll also try disabling Wellbeing at this point...
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Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.
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It is, especially if you consider that it's 1000mAh.
A Pixel 2 XL dropping by, say, 10% (which is still much higher than what I used to get), means a consumption of 352mAh.
In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)
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I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
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Yeah,
In terms of root, I hadn't done anything with root until this morning really so there shouldn't be anything affecting my idle drain figures that you wouldn't be able to do without root.
Otherwise, try turning off all digital wellbeing features (bedtime mode, timers and focus mode) and remove permissions to digital wellbeing and then clear data. Try that for a few days and see how that has an impact.
I've noticed the same issues, I would normally have my phone switch off over and and switch on but this doesn't seem to have that option
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In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)
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Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.
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Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.
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IIRC full black will cause smearing while scrolling. And the display of the P2XL was, let's say it, crap.
The Pixel 2 XL display looks absolutely fine to me, and I have never seen any smearing when scrolling. When we had LCD everyone was raving about OLED having true blacks, and everyone wanting a dark mode, now in many places in the UI it looks worse then most LCD panels for contrast. So its now fashionable to have artificially lowered contrast.
Android 12 DP2: Dark theme on Pixel gets even lighter
Android 12 has tweaked dark mode again in its second developer preview to make it even lighter than the previous release.
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Google, give us the option to change it back, it is suppose to be Material You so we can go back to customising again (like we once had), but it seems the only options now are washed out pastels.
rav101 said:
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?
How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?
spr33 said:
Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?
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I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
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How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?
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Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.
rav101 said:
I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.
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Ah, damn.
Guess it'll be 'top' or 'htop' in terminal then for now.
Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.
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Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.
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I've got NapTime as well. The trouble is light and deep doze is just the Android OS restricting what apps do and forcing them into maintenance schedules so things are done in batches. So its an app thing rather than a low level forcing of the phones CPU to sleep, so even in light or deep doze it doesn't guarantee that Android has been halted and the CPU is in sleep, that is another thing step. It should make Android more likely to suspend and the CPU to go to sleep if Apps aren't allowed to chatter over the network, but deep doze doesn't guarantee the phone has gone into standby.
Other things can prevent the device from truly suspending and putting the CPU into sleep mode, so other things may be happening, it might not be an app issue.
To check how long the CPU is in deep sleep (essentially the phone is off and Android is suspended and is what we need to see so top battery drain overnight) CPU Spy can show you that, currently mine is showing 82% deep sleep overall. When you see a low percentage of deep sleep and high percentage at 300Mhz, then something is stopping the phone for sleeping, so it is kept awake doing little so idles constantly at the lowest CPU clock speed, but this still uses quite a bit of power compared to deep sleep.
The age old question for those of you having battery drains, Did you turn off wifi scanning?
hey there. ive had my p6p for only a few weeks. battery life has been poor since i got it, but worse since the march update. i noticed when i look in settings under battery and battery usage and then past 24 hours i see mobile network usage at 70%. i haven't left my house in over a week and ive been on wifi the whole time. isn't that weird that the mobile network would be in use so much? i looked under network and the sim and by default roaming was toggled on. i turned that off and switched my preferred network to lte instead of 5g. a day later, still not left the house and i see mobile network at 54%, still high. i haven't even made one call on this phone in days. im on t-mobile if that matters and seem to have good reception in my home. any ideas or settings i could look at? thanks for any replies.
Go to developer settings and disable "Mobile data always on" option, as well as you can disable the 2g always on for emergency calls from the wifi&network settings. That helped me.
lesafijndt said:
Go to developer settings and disable "Mobile data always on" option, as well as you can disable the 2g always on for emergency calls from the wifi&network settings. That helped me.
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thanks, i’ll do both
elwuero said:
thanks, i’ll do both
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You're welcome
Dont know whats wrong with my p6p. Was one of the users who had zero problems since december, switched then to 12.1 beta. Now im on QPR 1.1 and since QPR 1.0 my battery drains like crazy, and even with the slightest of usage while using 4G/wifi it gets way hotter then before and you can see the battery % falling like a waterfall. Checked ofc all the settings, nothing changed. All apps are the same, nothing new. With Dec Firmware i was at ~50% at the end of the day, now im below 10%.
Im a die hard android boy, but for me thats crazy how unstable the whole "system" is. You change nothing app/usage wise, and you just loose nearly 40% of battery capacity.
t0m2k said:
Dont know whats wrong with my p6p. Was one of the users who had zero problems since december, switched then to 12.1 beta. Now im on QPR 1.1 and since QPR 1.0 my battery drains like crazy, and even with the slightest of usage while using 4G/wifi it gets way hotter then before and you can see the battery % falling like a waterfall. Checked ofc all the settings, nothing changed. All apps are the same, nothing new. With Dec Firmware i was at ~50% at the end of the day, now im below 10%.
Im a die hard android boy, but for me thats crazy how unstable the whole "system" is. You change nothing app/usage wise, and you just loose nearly 40% of battery capacity.
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I personally hate the battery life on this phone. I charged it to 85% earlier and was texting a buddy of mine for a bit, and my phone was super warm for no reason and I lost like 20% just from that. It doesn't make much sense to me how the power is bad that if I do light tasks it just goes to crap. I hope the next phone is better.
Personally, forget the Mobile Network standby figure is just misleading.
On the original firmware mine said 3-7% and I would charge to 80% and then 24 hours later would have around 30% left. By the February release the standby figure was showing 40% but battery life exactly the same. With the March release it is ready 50%+ but again the battery life is still pretty much the same (couple of % more but that is because I moved to a dual sim setup).
Don't disagree that some are having battery issues, but don't go chasing the Mobile Standby number as it is likely a complete red herring and your issue is elsewhere.
yeah i noticed that too. Im no way focused on that % mobile standby. Im feeling the noticable higher temp on the device.
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Don't disagree that some are having battery issues, but don't go chasing the Mobile Standby number as it is likely a complete red herring and your issue is elsewhere.
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There are reports that the older 5G modem is at least part of the problem, so I would not dismiss it. The fact that so many disable 5G, 2G, or other mobile services and report better battery life is kind of telling, too.
I think that the March drop has improved my battery life a bit, however. Not great, but it lasts through the day.
My battery life has definitely decreased since updating to march build. My usage hasn't changed, but before, I went to bed with ~15% left, now I often need to recharge at ~22:00 whenever I want to use my phone before sleep. Temps also seem to be slightly worse. I sometimes notice the phone getting warm, which did not happen before.
On a plus side, I have no more connection problems at home since updating to March build (I can get SMS/calls again in my home office), so that's a trade-off I am ok with, even though I don't like it.
mobile network is definitely my problem. since i stay home most days, working from home and not needing to go out, i turned on airplane mode and then enabled wifi and bt. i get calls from wifi thru tmobile and suddenly my battery life is great. 24 hours after charging with light use i had 89% battery remaining. i believe overnight i had lost 1%. i plan on leaving it in airplane mode till i go out. i get my notifications and calls and have great battery life this way.
I've noticed a steep decline in my battery life as well since the March update. Mobile network appears to be the culprit. Verizon user here, on an old GUDP.
elwuero said:
mobile network is definitely my problem. since i stay home most days, working from home and not needing to go out, i turned on airplane mode and then enabled wifi and bt. i get calls from wifi thru tmobile and suddenly my battery life is great. 24 hours after charging with light use i had 89% battery remaining. i believe overnight i had lost 1%. i plan on leaving it in airplane mode till i go out. i get my notifications and calls and have great battery life this way.
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I find it sad we have to go through such hoops to get our battery life adequate enough for our standards, when it should be this way out of the box. I hope the next pixel phone improves upon this, and if it does even in the smallest way I'll be sure to trade my device in.
I found the "issue" for my drain/heat problem:
I discovered yesterday evening, that i was enlisted in the play service beta program. Opted out of it, cleared cache/data too. Figured then out, that my gpay cards went missing, added them back in 5 mins, no prob. Then i saw, that all my "battery setting per app" where on "optimized", not on restrict. Today i unplugged at 08.30 and till now after a 20min call and twitter/instagram usage, im still at 96% with absolutey NO HEAT!
Config:
Play Services 21.24.23
Carrier Services 98.0.435052141
Play Store 29.8.13-21[0]
S3B1.220218.006
Hope, that this maybe help someone
Normandroid said:
I've noticed a steep decline in my battery life as well since the March update. Mobile network appears to be the culprit. Verizon user here, on an old GUDP.
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Weirdly mine has noticeably got better, i am ending the day with 20 or 30% more battery left than i was before the march update.
I just came from S21 Ultra and I'm noticing a huge drain in my Fold 4 about 15% to 20% overnight and I'm not sure if it's normal nor where it comes from.
I disable AOD during the night. I used GSAM to try to figure out the culprit with no luck.
Do you have any thoughts?
I leave mine on a wireless charger overnight so not sure then, but it seems to barely drain anything through the day unless I'm actively using it. I did notice the first 2 or 3 days though it seemed to drain a lot faster while it was "learning" my habits. Now I have no fear of getting through a full day of heavy usage even though I've set the charging to cap at 85%.
A lot of things can affect it. 5G data takes a lot more power than wifi and I run wifi at both home and work so I'm rarely outside of a wifi range. I also use wifi calling. I don't use AOD except when there's a new notification.
I would speculate there is an app on yours not allowing deep sleep. Mine so far has only been dropping 3-4% through the night.
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I leave mine on a wireless charger overnight so not sure then, but it seems to barely drain anything through the day unless I'm actively using it. I did notice the first 2 or 3 days though it seemed to drain a lot faster while it was "learning" my habits. Now I have no fear of getting through a full day of heavy usage even though I've set the charging to cap at 85%.
A lot of things can affect it. 5G data takes a lot more power than wifi and I run wifi at both home and work so I'm rarely outside of a wifi range. I also use wifi calling. I don't use AOD except when there's a new notification.
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I just got it 3 days ago so hopefully I get your result.
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I would speculate there is an app on yours not allowing deep sleep. Mine so far has only been dropping 3-4% through the night.
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I thought so at the beginning but looking in gsam I found out that combined app cpu is consuming a lot of juice. I'm a long time avid android user and I've looked into all the possible causes but surely I'm missing on something.
EDIT: battery drain while I'm using it is superb, but it drains while standing by.
I noticed with the Fold 3 it took a few days for things to settle and apps to sleep.
But def check what apps are NOT going to deep sleep. Then add those that don't need to run in the background.
I have the 3, waiting on my burgundy 4, and with very little use during the day I get good battery. At night, it would drop but not by 15-20%.
dirtybudha said:
I noticed with the Fold 3 it took a few days for things to settle and apps to sleep.
But def check what apps are NOT going to deep sleep. Then add those that don't need to run in the background.
I have the 3, waiting on my burgundy 4, and with very little use during the day I get good battery. At night, it would drop but not by 15-20%.
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I guess it'll figure out how to last longer once it learns my behavior. I've installed battery guru to monitor things and hopefully catch the culprit.
zaidshb said:
I guess it'll figure out how to last longer once it learns my behavior. I've installed battery guru to monitor things and hopefully catch the culprit.
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I do recommend taking the time and settings the apps that don't need to run in the background to go to sleep. I don't need a calculator running, so it can sleep. And so on.
But yeah, you'll see things level out.
Be sure to report back whatever happens!
dirtybudha said:
I do recommend taking the time and settings the apps that don't need to run in the background to go to sleep. I don't need a calculator running, so it can sleep. And so on.
But yeah, you'll see things level out.
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Great advice let's see what happens.
cybermage1 said:
Be sure to report back whatever happens!
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Sure, thanks.
I don't know if I've ever had a phone with better standby drain than the Fold 4. Just an experiment but I took it off the charger at 3PM yesterday and didn't touch it until 5:30AM this morning and it was at 95%. This is just the 3rd full day of use. I am using Nap Time with a couple adb commands to give the proper permission for an unrooted phone. Also turned of continuous scan for wifi and bluetooth, disabled Bixby and a lot of the bloat too.
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Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
zaidshb said:
I just came from S21 Ultra and I'm noticing a huge drain in my Fold 4 about 15% to 20% overnight and I'm not sure if it's normal nor where it comes from.
I disable AOD during the night. I used GSAM to try to figure out the culprit with no luck.
Do you have any thoughts?
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1% standby drain per hour on ANY smartphone is exceptionally good. Looks like you are 2.5% drain per hour. That's not terribly bad though either.
Try putting phone into flight mode before you go to sleep. This will tell you if drain is radio/app related or the core OS.
dezborders said:
1% standby drain per hour on ANY smartphone is exceptionally good. Looks like you are 2.5% drain per hour. That's not terribly bad though either.
Try putting phone into flight mode before you go to sleep. This will tell you if drain is radio/app related or the core OS.
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Great idea, I'll try and report back.
zaidshb said:
Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
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If its home, maybe a widget that's loaded doing polling not allowing deep sleep? Worth nuking them all see if it makes any difference.
zaidshb said:
Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
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What app are you using to check your battery stats?
TechSilver13 said:
What app are you using to check your battery stats?
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Battery guru
I like battery guru so far. I use to use Better Battery Stats from here on XDA but it doesn't seem to work as well as it use to. I noticed that I have nothing logged for wake locks, is that a limitation on the Fold 4?
At this point, I give up.
My fold doesn't sleep at all even after a factory reset and wiping the cache, I can't figure out what is causing this issue. It's drawing anywhere from 5% to 10% per hour while standing by.
I advise you to install "gsam battery labs", and in the settings of this app enable "show more statistics" (this require a PC with adb minimal package installed, USB debugging on on the phone and a USB cable).
It can tell you which app uses what % of the battery and for what reasons (downloading, GPS usage, etc), even for system apps, and most importantly even when the screen is off or the phone is dozing.
This as been my go to app since using android phones, in combination with accubattery (which doesn't show system packages or anything usefull while screen off).
As for my ZF4, when the screens are off it is using 0.5% per hour during night time (deep sleep) and 0.9% during the day (light sleep)