I just came from S21 Ultra and I'm noticing a huge drain in my Fold 4 about 15% to 20% overnight and I'm not sure if it's normal nor where it comes from.
I disable AOD during the night. I used GSAM to try to figure out the culprit with no luck.
Do you have any thoughts?
I leave mine on a wireless charger overnight so not sure then, but it seems to barely drain anything through the day unless I'm actively using it. I did notice the first 2 or 3 days though it seemed to drain a lot faster while it was "learning" my habits. Now I have no fear of getting through a full day of heavy usage even though I've set the charging to cap at 85%.
A lot of things can affect it. 5G data takes a lot more power than wifi and I run wifi at both home and work so I'm rarely outside of a wifi range. I also use wifi calling. I don't use AOD except when there's a new notification.
I would speculate there is an app on yours not allowing deep sleep. Mine so far has only been dropping 3-4% through the night.
cybermage1 said:
I leave mine on a wireless charger overnight so not sure then, but it seems to barely drain anything through the day unless I'm actively using it. I did notice the first 2 or 3 days though it seemed to drain a lot faster while it was "learning" my habits. Now I have no fear of getting through a full day of heavy usage even though I've set the charging to cap at 85%.
A lot of things can affect it. 5G data takes a lot more power than wifi and I run wifi at both home and work so I'm rarely outside of a wifi range. I also use wifi calling. I don't use AOD except when there's a new notification.
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I just got it 3 days ago so hopefully I get your result.
94b20gsr said:
I would speculate there is an app on yours not allowing deep sleep. Mine so far has only been dropping 3-4% through the night.
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I thought so at the beginning but looking in gsam I found out that combined app cpu is consuming a lot of juice. I'm a long time avid android user and I've looked into all the possible causes but surely I'm missing on something.
EDIT: battery drain while I'm using it is superb, but it drains while standing by.
I noticed with the Fold 3 it took a few days for things to settle and apps to sleep.
But def check what apps are NOT going to deep sleep. Then add those that don't need to run in the background.
I have the 3, waiting on my burgundy 4, and with very little use during the day I get good battery. At night, it would drop but not by 15-20%.
dirtybudha said:
I noticed with the Fold 3 it took a few days for things to settle and apps to sleep.
But def check what apps are NOT going to deep sleep. Then add those that don't need to run in the background.
I have the 3, waiting on my burgundy 4, and with very little use during the day I get good battery. At night, it would drop but not by 15-20%.
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I guess it'll figure out how to last longer once it learns my behavior. I've installed battery guru to monitor things and hopefully catch the culprit.
zaidshb said:
I guess it'll figure out how to last longer once it learns my behavior. I've installed battery guru to monitor things and hopefully catch the culprit.
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I do recommend taking the time and settings the apps that don't need to run in the background to go to sleep. I don't need a calculator running, so it can sleep. And so on.
But yeah, you'll see things level out.
Be sure to report back whatever happens!
dirtybudha said:
I do recommend taking the time and settings the apps that don't need to run in the background to go to sleep. I don't need a calculator running, so it can sleep. And so on.
But yeah, you'll see things level out.
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Great advice let's see what happens.
cybermage1 said:
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Sure, thanks.
I don't know if I've ever had a phone with better standby drain than the Fold 4. Just an experiment but I took it off the charger at 3PM yesterday and didn't touch it until 5:30AM this morning and it was at 95%. This is just the 3rd full day of use. I am using Nap Time with a couple adb commands to give the proper permission for an unrooted phone. Also turned of continuous scan for wifi and bluetooth, disabled Bixby and a lot of the bloat too.
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Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
zaidshb said:
I just came from S21 Ultra and I'm noticing a huge drain in my Fold 4 about 15% to 20% overnight and I'm not sure if it's normal nor where it comes from.
I disable AOD during the night. I used GSAM to try to figure out the culprit with no luck.
Do you have any thoughts?
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1% standby drain per hour on ANY smartphone is exceptionally good. Looks like you are 2.5% drain per hour. That's not terribly bad though either.
Try putting phone into flight mode before you go to sleep. This will tell you if drain is radio/app related or the core OS.
dezborders said:
1% standby drain per hour on ANY smartphone is exceptionally good. Looks like you are 2.5% drain per hour. That's not terribly bad though either.
Try putting phone into flight mode before you go to sleep. This will tell you if drain is radio/app related or the core OS.
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Great idea, I'll try and report back.
zaidshb said:
Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
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If its home, maybe a widget that's loaded doing polling not allowing deep sleep? Worth nuking them all see if it makes any difference.
zaidshb said:
Update: so I let it stand by and I guess the culprit is oneui home app and it's strange to me since it's drawing more than it should and keeps the device awake, and for some reason keeps the screen awake as well.
I've cleared the cache and force closed it and I'll see if this fixes the issue.
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What app are you using to check your battery stats?
TechSilver13 said:
What app are you using to check your battery stats?
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Battery guru
I like battery guru so far. I use to use Better Battery Stats from here on XDA but it doesn't seem to work as well as it use to. I noticed that I have nothing logged for wake locks, is that a limitation on the Fold 4?
At this point, I give up.
My fold doesn't sleep at all even after a factory reset and wiping the cache, I can't figure out what is causing this issue. It's drawing anywhere from 5% to 10% per hour while standing by.
I advise you to install "gsam battery labs", and in the settings of this app enable "show more statistics" (this require a PC with adb minimal package installed, USB debugging on on the phone and a USB cable).
It can tell you which app uses what % of the battery and for what reasons (downloading, GPS usage, etc), even for system apps, and most importantly even when the screen is off or the phone is dozing.
This as been my go to app since using android phones, in combination with accubattery (which doesn't show system packages or anything usefull while screen off).
As for my ZF4, when the screens are off it is using 0.5% per hour during night time (deep sleep) and 0.9% during the day (light sleep)
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If I were to leave my phone on without using it, it would die in about 10 hours. Is this normal? It's been like this since stock. I don't think this is normal since my G2 had way better stand-by time.
Please, don't say it has something to do with your settings and stuff, because I had the same things turned on with the same apps on my G2 with way better Stand-by time. GPS and Auto-backup.
Im running bone stock. I recharged after 38 hrs. And still had a 30% chg left
These were 14 hrs after complete chg.
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Im running bone stock. I recharged after 38 hrs. And still had a 30% chg left
These were 14 hrs after complete chg.
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See? This is what I'm not getting. Even since stock my Standby time was horrible. So I rooted to get better battery life. Nothing is changing. I even did a battery calibration to see if the phone was just reading the battery wrong.
I have another question. After the phone is finished charging at 100%, as soon as I take it off the charger, it goes down to 99%. Is that normal? I thought the phone was supposed to stay charged at 100% for a little while.
I just unplugged mine from complete charge and as soon as I unplugged it went to 99. So, yes????
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See? This is what I'm not getting. Even since stock my Standby time was horrible. So I rooted to get better battery life. Nothing is changing. I even did a battery calibration to see if the phone was just reading the battery wrong.
I have another question. After the phone is finished charging at 100%, as soon as I take it off the charger, it goes down to 99%. Is that normal? I thought the phone was supposed to stay charged at 100% for a little while.
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That is normal to drop to 99% immediately. I always charge to full before I go to sleep at night and for some reason if I leave wifi on, the drain is really low when not in use...
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Ok. I have no idea what is going on, but my phone just randomly rebooted, froze and then reset my home screen replacement launcher (as if I hit set to default), and now when I went to check on the battery usage and this is what I get:
Android OS is now at about 2% along with other things.
Display is at about 50%.
This is new. Android OS used to ALWAYS be higher then display. That didn't make since.
Now things are different. It seems the display is using the most energy. That is normal. I expect that.
I don't know, but it seems that everything is back to normal. I am using the phone, so I'm expecting this battery drain, but I'll check to see how much battery is drained on stand-by when I go to work later on today.
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Ok. I have no idea what is going on, but my phone just randomly rebooted, froze and then reset my home screen replacement launcher (as if I hit set to default), and now when I went to check on the battery usage and this is what I get:
Android OS is now at about 2% along with other things.
Display is at about 50%.
This is new. Android OS used to ALWAYS be higher then display. That didn't make since.
Now things are different. It seems the display is using the most energy. That is normal. I expect that.
I don't know, but it seems that everything is back to normal. I am using the phone, so I'm expecting this battery drain, but I'll check to see how much battery is drained on stand-by when I go to work later on today.
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Let us know how it works out for you. Display should definitely be at the top if you are actually using the phone. At least it always is for me
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If you want your phone to last you throughout the day, make sure that "Use Wireless Networks" in Settings -> Location is unchecked. That is the biggest battery guzzler this phone has next to 4G and Brightness. My battery loses 2% all night til I wake up (Thats 8 Hours!!)
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If you want your phone to last you throughout the day, make sure that "Use Wireless Networks" in Settings -> Location is unchecked. That is the biggest battery guzzler this phone has next to 4G and Brightness. My battery loses 2% all night til I wake up (Thats 8 Hours!!)
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I figured it was a Samsung thing. I leave GPS off if that's what you mean, but location services stay on. That's just a me thing.
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Today after work, I lost 30% energy on standby. That's alright with me. It was about 6 hours of straight standby time. It seems to have gotten better. At times I'd lose at least half of my battery after at least 5 hours.
I don't know how the phone seemed to fix itself, but doing things doesn't just DRAIN the battery anymore. I was playing on the phone fixing my home screen launcher and my battery wasn't dying right in my face. I lost like 2% after having the screen on for about 20 minutes fixing up my settings compared to seeing 5+% in like 10 minutes.
I am satisfied.
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I figured it was a Samsung thing. I leave GPS off if that's what you mean, but location services stay on. That's just a me thing.
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Today after work, I lost 30% energy on standby. That's alright with me. It was about 6 hours of straight standby time. It seems to have gotten better. At times I'd lose at least half of my battery after at least 5 hours.
I don't know how the phone seemed to fix itself, but doing things doesn't just DRAIN the battery anymore. I was playing on the phone fixing my home screen launcher and my battery wasn't dying right in my face. I lost like 2% after having the screen on for about 20 minutes fixing up my settings compared to seeing 5+% in like 10 minutes.
I am satisfied.
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Lol, your battery didn't fix itself, that sounds like somethings wrong with the battery cycle. Maybe you need to recalibrate it.
You see, sometimes if you overcharge a phone, especially when using a charger that isn't made for that specific phone (usually a charger thats too strong) it can throw of the charge cycle. Thus, it can take like 30 minutes to drop 50% and then another 3hrs for the other 50% (this is just an example). If you're rooted, I highly recommend doing a full battery calibration.
Secondly, the Use Wireless Networks thing in the location isn't really a samsung thing, i think of it more as a google thing. I noticed that when its on, Google is always sending information back to itself, thus keeping the phone awake longer. Thats why if you go to your graph, it show that your phone is awake more often then it should be. I personally uncheck it, because if i ever need it, I just quickly switch on the gps. Then turn it off when im done.Thats my recommendation to you. Yesterday, I personally got a full 24hr usage out of my battery, and it wasn't even all that light. I texted most of the day, made a few calls, browsed the web, and listened to music for a few hours on the subway. Pretty moderate usage.
See, I'm not exactly unhappy with my battery life... but seeing what other folks around here are getting MAKES me a little unhappy.
I mean, I went to bed at... I'll say around two AM last night at 90% battery. My audio book player ran for thirty minutes after that; woke up at about eleven AM, 53%. NOTHING CLOSE to what you folks are getting. All of the big culprits I've heard mentioned have been checked out, and I just calibrated, so I dunno where else to go with this.
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See, I'm not exactly unhappy with my battery life... but seeing what other folks around here are getting MAKES me a little unhappy.
I mean, I went to bed at... I'll say around two AM last night at 90% battery. My audio book player ran for thirty minutes after that; woke up at about eleven AM, 53%. NOTHING CLOSE to what you folks are getting. All of the big culprits I've heard mentioned have been checked out, and I just calibrated, so I dunno where else to go with this.
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Make sure you turn off Use Wireless Network in the location settings. You will then be getting the battery life that I'm getting
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Make sure you turn off Use Wireless Network in the location settings. You will then be getting the battery life that I'm getting
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That one is a big mystery to me. I always leave that setting on. I also have my sync on. My stock email is set at one hour and I get very little drain. Maybe it has to do with an app that uses Wireless Network location ..
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Does anybody see anything unusual about my battery life?
My screen has basically been off, yet I'm still losing weird amounts of battery. Based on the hours, I took my phone off the charger at 4pm Dec. 04 (16:00) and it died at 6am (06:00) Dec. 05. That gap in WiFi was my time at work.
Those bars you see in display right before WiFi get's turned on is me texting and Facebooking. Apparently I wasn't using Facebook enough for it to actually get a place in my battery usage.
And of course those two little bars in the red was my phone telling me that it's dying. Too bad I was sleep.
Ignore the rise after the fall. That's it charging of course.
Also, if you notice, my WiFi apparently wasn't using anything to get a place as well. Those are all the apps that were listed. Why isn't WiFi there?
I calibrated my battery twice already. I can calibrated it again since it fully died. Let me make sure I understand how to calibrate it.
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1) Phone charged to 100%
2) Phone dies
3) Charge phone to 100%
4) CWM and wipe battery stats
That's what I do to calibrate it.
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Does anybody see anything unusual about my battery life?
My screen has basically been off, yet I'm still losing weird amounts of battery. Based on the hours, I took my phone off the charger at 4pm Dec. 04 (16:00) and it died at 6am (06:00) Dec. 05. That gap in WiFi was my time at work.
Those bars you see in display right before WiFi get's turned on is me texting and Facebooking. Apparently I wasn't using Facebook enough for it to actually get a place in my battery usage.
And of course those two little bars in the red was my phone telling me that it's dying. Too bad I was sleep.
Ignore the rise after the fall. That's it charging of course.
Also, if you notice, my WiFi apparently wasn't using anything to get a place as well. Those are all the apps that were listed. Why isn't WiFi there?
I calibrated my battery twice already. I can calibrated it again since it fully died. Let me make sure I understand how to calibrate it.
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Add a 5th step which is using the battery calibration app from the market. Also, uncheck wireless networks from location settings (huge battery hog). I assume that's probably your biggest problem. Then, if you are rooted, do what I did, which is get a root explorer and go into system>apps, and move the social hub.apk and media hub.apk to a folder on your SD. It will essentially uninstall it. Those 2 apps are battery hogs as well even if you have never used them. They will always run in the background. Try those and lemme know if it helped.
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JohnCorleone said:
That one is a big mystery to me. I always leave that setting on. I also have my sync on. My stock email is set at one hour and I get very little drain. Maybe it has to do with an app that uses Wireless Network location ..
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Wireless network location settings is also mainly used by Google to send them data about your usage. I noticed a significant decrease in battery life whenever this is checked. I would rather just turn on my GPS whenever I need it than keep this function on at all times. Its just not worth it in my book.
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Add a 5th step which is using the battery calibration app from the market. Also, uncheck wireless networks from location settings (huge battery hog). I assume that's probably your biggest problem. Then, if you are rooted, do what I did, which is get a root explorer and go into system>apps, and move the social hub.apk and media hub.apk to a folder on your SD. It will essentially uninstall it. Those 2 apps are battery hogs as well even if you have never used them. They will always run in the background. Try those and lemme know if it helped.
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Could media hub and social hub just be frozen by using rom toolbox? Or is moving them a necessity?
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chrisbass said:
Could media hub and social hub just be frozen by using rom toolbox? Or is moving them a necessity?
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I'm not sure. But that's why I recommend moving it, so you can always reinstall it later if you need to for any reason.
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I just got my GS3 about four days ago.I noticed just like many people out there, that my battery wasn't lasting as long.After some research I found that doing a factory reset solved the problems.I'm getting 15+ hours now with moderate to slightly heavy use. Before I did this my battery would lose 40% with very light to moderate use in about 1hr 30mins.
No root.
Settings>Back up and reset>factory reset>wait for reboot>set up phone(just the initial setup)>turn off>remove battery and reinsert>boot back up (this is what I did)
How my phone was setup(sync,use etc.)
This is without power saving mode.
GPS: off
Wifi: on,because I havent gone out much these last few days(but off when I do)
Brightness:No more than 20% usually at 10%
I live in a LTE area just in case.
Moderate texting.
No gaming.
1 Call for about 30mins.
Moderate to heavy browsing.
Skype call for about 30mins.
Bluetooth: only on during 30min call.
Apps that sync:
Scope:every hour(syncs tumblr and facebook)
Facebook:every 2 hours
Weather:every 6 hours
Google account sync is on.
Email syncs once a day.
I barely receive gmail so I only get a notification from it once or twice a day.
During the night my phone lost about 14% (45% to 31%).
DISCLAIMER:I CANNOT GUARANTEE THIS WILL WORK EVEN THOUGH FOR A DECENT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IT HAS,DON'T BLAME ME IF IT DOESN'T AND FOR THE TIME LOST IN YOU TRYING THIS.
Its still good to give it a try.
thats sad as heck man, you ruining a good phone doing all that, either man up get a new extended battery or root your phone and undervolt that crap.
G1_enthusiast said:
thats sad as heck man, you ruining a good phone doing all that, either man up get a new extended battery or root your phone and undervolt that crap.
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Ummmm..….. what??
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G1_enthusiast said:
thats sad as heck man, you ruining a good phone doing all that, either man up get a new extended battery or root your phone and undervolt that crap.
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This is just for testing. As it would reflect my "regular" use.
You have a wake lock your phone never sleeps.
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You have a wake lock your phone never sleeps.
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How did you identify that?
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How did you identify that?
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See the awake bar on your battery screenshot? That means your phone was on all day and night; it never went into deep sleep mode. When your phone is awake it uses practically the same amount of battery with the screen off as it would with the screen on, minus the display usage.
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See the awake bar on your batter screenshot? That means your phone was on all day and night; it never went into deep sleep mode. When your phone is awake it uses practically the same amount of battery with the screen off as it would with the screen on, minus the display usage.
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Yea damn thats a lot. Also the auto update apps, just turn those to manual. No need to get Facebook stuff every 2 hours when you know you'll check it sometime during the day. Same with weather.
dyno0919 said:
See the awake bar on your batter screenshot? That means your phone was on all day and night; it never went into deep sleep mode. When your phone is awake it uses practically the same amount of battery with the screen off as it would with the screen on, minus the display usage.
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So this was do to all the things syncing right? I read the better battery stats thread,i'm going to give that a try to see what it is exactly.
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Yea damn thats a lot. Also the auto update apps, just turn those to manual. No need to get Facebook stuff every 2 hours when you know you'll check it sometime during the day. Same with weather.
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This was just for testing purposes I understand that without all that the phone would last much longer. But its a GS3 so I wanted to see what it was capable of. My thinking is if it got 15+ hours with all those things auto updating imagine without.
I lose 1% an hour in standby. Maybe slightly less. Tuchmi with faux. Samsung garbage removed.
That whole post is pointless.
Charging up while phone off to see if there's any battery improvement.
DudeWatsThat said:
This was just for testing purposes I understand that without all that the phone would last much longer. But its a GS3 so I wanted to see what it was capable of. My thinking is if it got 15+ hours with all those things auto updating imagine without.
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Charging up while phone off to see if there's any battery improvement.
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Still doesn't solve your wake lock problem. I would get on that or you will continue to get poor battery life.
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Still doesn't solve your wake lock problem. I would get on that or you will continue to get poor battery life.
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Strange thing is even with the wake lock it got 15hrs. Shouldn't disabling the auto updates solve that? If not I think the wake lock was due to the cell standby bug.
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Strange thing is even with the wake lock it got 15hrs. Shouldn't disabling the auto updates solve that? If not I think the wake lock was due to the cell standby bug.
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It should still sleep unless you are constantly updating every minute you have something else going on. Cell standby is just a measurement bug. Even if you patch it your battery life will be the same. When I let mine go without charging I got the same screen time but over a day between charges so you are losing probably 25% or so from it.
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Almost as much as your post
Horrible Battery!
Rooted my SG3 and have noticed a large battery drain. Unplugged from charging to a full charge and left phone off and it sat on standby mode. 3 hours later after NO USE it is down 20%. This doesn't seem normal. 29% is due to cell standby and 25% is android OS. On Wifi at home too, so I don't think its struggling for signal. Any ideas?
First two days I had the phone it had great battery. I was getting 16-18 hours of life with 4-6 sot. Now the last two days at work it's worse than my op2. By the time I got home yesterday I was at like 35%. Previous days I was well over 60.My android system is taking most of the blame. On my good days it was at like 8% when the phone would die. Right now with my phone at 79% it's already at the top with 5%. I've barely used the phone while I'm at work right now. It's been unplugged for 3 hours and my sot is 35 minutes. Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
Download gsm battery monitor, are you rooted?
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cameron1292 said:
First two days I had the phone it had great battery. I was getting 16-18 hours of life with 4-6 sot. Now the last two days at work it's worse than my op2. By the time I got home yesterday I was at like 35%. Previous days I was well over 60.My android system is taking most of the blame. On my good days it was at like 8% when the phone would die. Right now with my phone at 79% it's already at the top with 5%. I've barely used the phone while I'm at work right now. It's been unplugged for 3 hours and my sot is 35 minutes. Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
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Seems like you had been on LTE for quite long. Mobile data takes pounding on battery life. You will always see android system, android os and Google services etc on battery stat when using mobile data. Not the same case with wifi.
same here
i have mixed net usage with m,mostly lte on and wifi
can anyone have its quick fix pls report asap
i have greenified many OPservices but it didnt helped
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Download gsm battery monitor, are you rooted?
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Not rooted yet. Didn't want to loose dash charge with a new rom but cat just chewed the cord so guess I'll make a jump. Is that only a rooted app?
saurabh40629 said:
Seems like you had been on LTE for quite long. Mobile data takes pounding on battery life. You will always see android system, android os and Google services etc on battery stat when using mobile data. Not the same case with wifi.
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Humm I thought it was the other way around. Nevertheless I have WiFi at work. Can't remember if I was on it though. I'll have to test that out.
You don't have to run a custom rom or loose dash charge cause your rooted. I'm still using stock oxygen 3.1.3,and have the basic functions like dash charge working. I'm not sure if you have to be rooted to use gsm, cause I'm always rooted, but it may gave you more specific insight as to what exactly is draining your battery quickly.
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Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
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You know the image you attached, with the graph on it? Tap that and check the Awake heading. Is it one long solid blue bar? If yes: your phone stays awake (doesn't go in deep sleep mode). Does restarting it make a difference (i.e. does the solid blue bar get broken up)?
The problem emerged on my OP3 as well yesterday AND I had it on my prevous phone (a OPO). On the OPO the problem was that it wouldn't release a wakelock that kicked in during charging. While I haven't explored the problem on my new OP3 enough to know if this is the same problem, here's what fixed it for me if the problem is indeed charger related: when charged to your liking turn off your phone with the charging cable still in. Once turned off, remove the cable and restart the phone.
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You don't have to run a custom rom or loose dash charge cause your rooted. I'm still using stock oxygen 3.1.3,and have the basic functions like dash charge working. I'm not sure if you have to be rooted to use gsm, cause I'm always rooted, but it may gave you more specific insight as to what exactly is draining your battery quickly.
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I'll have to check that out. I'll root today. Just haven't had a need with the OP3 I'm digging this version of oxygen and not missing any of my root abilities. Also I use android pay. But I guess I can live without it lol
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You know the image you attached, with the graph on it? Tap that and check the Awake heading. Is it one long solid blue bar? If yes: your phone stays awake (doesn't go in deep sleep mode). Does restarting it make a difference (i.e. does the solid blue bar get broken up)?
The problem emerged on my OP3 as well yesterday AND I had it on my prevous phone (a OPO). On the OPO the problem was that it wouldn't release a wakelock that kicked in during charging. While I haven't explored the problem on my new OP3 enough to know if this is the same problem, here's what fixed it for me if the problem is indeed charger related: when charged to your liking turn off your phone with the charging cable still in. Once turned off, remove the cable and restart the phone.
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Are you talking about under history details? I'll check tonight once my phone is drained. I did a battery cycle yesterday. Let it die and charged to 100 while it was off. We'll see how it goes today. And your saying it was an actual charger problem?
Heavy battery drain might have to do with the "pocket problem". The fingerprint sensor constantly activates and is not properly blocked by the proximity sensor.
There are several threads and posts about it, here and on the oneplus forums...
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Heavy battery drain might have to do with the "pocket problem". The fingerprint sensor constantly activates and is not properly blocked by the proximity sensor.
There are several threads and posts about it, here and on the oneplus forums...
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Yea I had that once in a while with my op2 I'd take the phone out of my pocket and it would say too many attempts at the scanner. Nothing on this phone like that though. And of course today is a different story with the battery lol its good today. So maybe it's while I'm at work. Idk it's odd. I need some more testing. Currently I'm at 9.5 hours on battery with 56% left and almost 3 hours sot. I'll see how this week goes at work and see if I can diagnose anything
I've been having this problem as well, losing as much as up to 20% of battery overnight, while it was doing absolutely nothing. I've tried a couple of things, but last night it 'only' drained 5%, betterbatterystats reports 0.6% of drainage per hour.
I think this is due to the weather option in the launcher, could anyone else try turning it off and see if battery life improves significantly?
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Are you talking about under history details?
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Yes.
I'll check tonight once my phone is drained.
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You don't even need to do that. You can just check it after an hour or even less. Just put the phone away for an hour with the screen off and check history details.
And your saying it was an actual charger problem?
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Not quite. I'm saying it was a wakelock that kicked in during charging and that wasn't released when I took the phone off the charger. I don't know if it was the charger caused the wakelock.
Great for two days now I'm leaving work with 45% battery and only an hour and a half sot. Unplugged for 9 hours. Idk I feel like it's hit or miss
Had this for 2 weeks basically same stats why does android take so much battery?!? Standby drain is horrible. I'm on latest update. This has been from the first day I got it.
My battery life is almost the same
I'm in the same situation, horrible battery performance, I have the Exynox SM-N975F
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I'm in the same situation, horrible battery performance, I have the Exynox SM-N975F
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Another one here.
Have the phone for 5 days and it loses 30%+ overnight... My old S8 loses only 9%.
RoyaL said:
Another one here.
Have the phone for 5 days and it loses 30%+ overnight... My old S8 loses only 9%.
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30% is a lot.. Go for battery setup and try to find an reason (some apps maybe eat little bit more, then they should). Second problem is processor... Owners of Exynos have bigger battery usage, then Snapdragon users, that is fact. Maybe try to turn off voice activation of Bixby.
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30% is a lot.. Go for battery setup and try to find an reason (some apps maybe eat little bit more, then they should). Second problem is processor... Owners of Exynos have bigger battery usage, then Snapdragon users, that is fact. Maybe try to turn off voice activation of Bixby.
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Another night, another 31% drained. From 60 to 29...
I killed all open apps before going to bed. And still...
Battery usage shows nothing. The game was played before going to bed, so it was not the caused.
This is a big disappointment.
Edit : yep, just noticed I had Bixby voice wake up enabled. Just killed it. Let's see tomorrow.
I was about to make a similar post asking for help. To me it doesn't seem right Android system is using 2-3x battery than any other app/program. And lost 13% in just one hour.
I installed CPU Spy and my Phone never ever entered Deep Sleep. 0 seconds
I've just reset all network and system settings but it seems done anything to the issue.
Really want to avoid factory resetting...
I feel I returned 10 years in time, getting back to troubleshoot deep sleep and wake locks on Android 2.0... But now on a 1K device. Shame on you, Samsung...
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I installed CPU Spy and my Phone never ever entered Deep Sleep. 0 seconds
I've just reset all network and system settings but it seems done anything to the issue.
Really want to avoid factory resetting...
I feel I returned 10 years in time, getting back to troubleshoot deep sleep and wake locks on Android 2.0... But now on a 1K device. Shame on you, Samsung...
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Mine sleeps like a baby 20 min runtime 18 min deep sleep
I have the exynos version
Running US version mine uses about 2% overnight sometimes less
Mine Exynos looks so . The Battery can better, don't know what I do wrong
I have the same results. 4hrs, sometimes barely 5hr of SOT
Android system, and idle device seems to drain too much battery ... I'm disappointed.
Yeah me too,
I see a lot of people with crazy SoTs that go beyond 7 or 8 hours. And i'm stuck here with 4 to 5 hours. I don't see why since Samsung develops its own Exynos platform. Maybe Android isn't fully optimized for Exynos ?
My Note (Exynos) use about 5% max 10% battery over night. Always on display is off and Bixby still off. 10% if everything is turn on.
Any solution to this guy's? Its driving me crazy brand new phone with huge battery drain problems...
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Another one here.
Have the phone for 5 days and it loses 30%+ overnight... My old S8 loses only 9%.
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Def something wrong! I have the Exynos model and i lose 4% over night
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Any solution to this guy's? Its driving me crazy brand new phone with huge battery drain problems...
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Nope. I think it depends on the LTE band and provider. is just a guess.
I have finally fixed my problem. Reset all Network and System Settings (without factory reset), put all the settings back how I had before, and now it is going fine into Deep Sleep overnight.
Went from 31% to 5% battery drain in 8h sleep. Now its perfect.
Don't know exactly what was causing it but it must have been a bug as all the settings are exacly as I had before.
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I have finally fixed my problem. Reset all Network and System Settings (without factory reset), put all the settings back how I had before, and now it is going fine into Deep Sleep overnight.
Went from 31% to 5% battery drain in 8h sleep. Now its perfect.
Don't know exactly what was causing it but it must have been a bug as all the settings are exacly as I had before.
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Thanks will test this out.:laugh:
Friends, I have 5 charge cycles with this equipment, I suffer from battery drain too, does anyone know what the battery health means in the "PHONE info" for samsung APP? the Battery Health value that appears to me is 40.1%. Is my battery defective?
I've got myself a new P6P and basically since day one, every night or every other night it would lose something like 15 to 25%. This is over roughly an 8hours sleep.
Device is connected to WiFi and always on display is disabled.
Gram battery graphs look scary, like Oreo times scary.
Is anyone else experiencing anything similar, or is it just me?
Hibernation while screen off seems totally off at 27% of the time (should usually sit around 90% unless for example streaming or downloading stuff with screen off).
My previous P5 would do considerably better, with an almost flat graph in the same test conditions.
Thanks!
And the most frustrating about all this, is that in 2021 Google still can't provide us an easy way to figure out what's wrong.
Over several iterations they've promised we wouldn't have to deal with crap like this ever again (Doze, Doze on the go), but ultimately when it happens, users have no clue.
I'll have to install battery historian once more. I thought I was done with this crap.
P.s. I'm of course very interested to know what YOUR numbers look like in similar conditions. Thanks!
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
I quite agree. Everytime I get a new device (have usually been from Google), I have to start off troubleshooting battery drain and installing other apps to do it.
Android 12 has light doze now, so after just a few minutes it will stop apps accessing the network, and force apps that need to get some data every few minutes or so, to all queue their requests for the next maintenance window, so this should very quickly after the screen is off, allow the phone CPU to enter deep sleep for most of the time, i.e. nothing is running in Android until the next maintanence slot.
What is likely happening is there is a wakelock stopping the deep sleep from happening, and Andriod remains running doing very little, keeping the CPU awake ticking over at 300MHz.
To test this theory install CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en_GB&gl=US Have a look at the stats, has the phone entered deepsleep and what is the percentage of deep sleep? Overnight the phone really should be able to get at least 80% deep sleep as no one is using it (I've seen 95% on tablets and my Pixel 2 XL overnight).
To run a quick test, reset the stats, and let the phone sit for 30 minutes or so without being used, then go back to app (will need to use Refresh to get the latest totals) and see what percentage you get of deep sleep.
If you find the phone is going into deep sleep okay and overnight is 80% or more of deep sleep, then that isn't the cause of your battery drain, and it is likely caused by either the modem flapping or constantly trying to register with a cell tower, or perhaps Wi-Fi. So your next test is airplane mode overnight.
My overnight losses are around 5% at the moment, I'm only on Wi-Fi overnight, the mobile network is off as I get next to no signal.
Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.
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Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
EDIT: just re-read your post and you said you haven't made any of the root-enabled modifications yet, so even more call me amazed. I guess I'll also try disabling Wellbeing at this point...
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Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.
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It is, especially if you consider that it's 1000mAh.
A Pixel 2 XL dropping by, say, 10% (which is still much higher than what I used to get), means a consumption of 352mAh.
In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)
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I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
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Yeah,
In terms of root, I hadn't done anything with root until this morning really so there shouldn't be anything affecting my idle drain figures that you wouldn't be able to do without root.
Otherwise, try turning off all digital wellbeing features (bedtime mode, timers and focus mode) and remove permissions to digital wellbeing and then clear data. Try that for a few days and see how that has an impact.
I've noticed the same issues, I would normally have my phone switch off over and and switch on but this doesn't seem to have that option
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In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)
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Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.
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Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.
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IIRC full black will cause smearing while scrolling. And the display of the P2XL was, let's say it, crap.
The Pixel 2 XL display looks absolutely fine to me, and I have never seen any smearing when scrolling. When we had LCD everyone was raving about OLED having true blacks, and everyone wanting a dark mode, now in many places in the UI it looks worse then most LCD panels for contrast. So its now fashionable to have artificially lowered contrast.
Android 12 DP2: Dark theme on Pixel gets even lighter
Android 12 has tweaked dark mode again in its second developer preview to make it even lighter than the previous release.
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Google, give us the option to change it back, it is suppose to be Material You so we can go back to customising again (like we once had), but it seems the only options now are washed out pastels.
rav101 said:
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?
How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?
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Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?
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I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
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How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?
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Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.
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I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.
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Ah, damn.
Guess it'll be 'top' or 'htop' in terminal then for now.
Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.
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Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.
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I've got NapTime as well. The trouble is light and deep doze is just the Android OS restricting what apps do and forcing them into maintenance schedules so things are done in batches. So its an app thing rather than a low level forcing of the phones CPU to sleep, so even in light or deep doze it doesn't guarantee that Android has been halted and the CPU is in sleep, that is another thing step. It should make Android more likely to suspend and the CPU to go to sleep if Apps aren't allowed to chatter over the network, but deep doze doesn't guarantee the phone has gone into standby.
Other things can prevent the device from truly suspending and putting the CPU into sleep mode, so other things may be happening, it might not be an app issue.
To check how long the CPU is in deep sleep (essentially the phone is off and Android is suspended and is what we need to see so top battery drain overnight) CPU Spy can show you that, currently mine is showing 82% deep sleep overall. When you see a low percentage of deep sleep and high percentage at 300Mhz, then something is stopping the phone for sleeping, so it is kept awake doing little so idles constantly at the lowest CPU clock speed, but this still uses quite a bit of power compared to deep sleep.
The age old question for those of you having battery drains, Did you turn off wifi scanning?