Hi All, someone asked a question that reminded me of this niggle with my THD, I want to enable a password on my device (as well as a pin lock) so if my THD is stolen someone cant ignore the pin unlock screen and still gain access to my data, (8gb is a LOT of personal data).
The reason i am so keen to do that is my tytn2 got stolen, and as they couldnt get it on my personal details (u know the important stuff we are not supposed to have on phones - card nos and account numbers, that we all have buried somewhere on our phones anyway) was safe i eventually got the phone back trashed, but still secure.
When i go into the lock program in settings and set it to ask a password when the device goes on it disables the ability to use the keylock (long press of the end key) when the phone is on. As the big screen is very easy to press by mistake id rather have the ability not to phone people from my pocket so my THD isnt password protected - hope it doesnt get nicked. The PIN lock is fine, and i have set that up ok but that only stops people using the phone, they can still get into the PDA functions and data. unless im able to password protect it as well
Has anyone found a work around, cos id love to be able to password protect it AND have the ability to use the keylock function.
cheap trick but you might want to try and install s2u2? an external locking program which you can customize (in both aspect and behavior) to your liking... only problem is that as far as i know you cannot map it to longpress of end key
does that work with tf3d?
Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
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This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
I don't really like all the hype about the fingerprint sensor, I'd rather like to have it killed down, so that it doesn't have any chance register any fingerprints.
On a desktop Linux I'd simply `modprobe -r` the relevant kernel module. Can I do something like that on Android? I don't want to simply disable it in the settings - then I have to trust the system that nothing really uses it.
im not sure if this can be done. try to find the fingerprint set up apk. I believe if you delete this apk it will FC every time you try to register a fingerprint. other wise set a pin and you wouldn't be able to register fingerprint without knowing your pin.
Hello,
I have an unlocked HTC 10 and have noticed over the past few months that on occasion, the password protection is turned off. I have a password set up as well as the fingerprint reader and both work well. But every so often, I'll notice that the lock key is unlocked on the lock screen and I can swipe up without having to use my fingerprint or type in a password. This is not secure and is a glitch that needs to be fixed. I checked through all of my security settings and cannot find anything that could be causing the issue. Smart Lock is only enabled for my car and my home. I notice this unlocked lock screen when I'm at work so it's not related to that. Trusted voice, face, and on-body detection are all off. The only way I can get the phone to be locked again and require my fingerprint or password is to restart the device. The issue still persists with the new Android 7.0 update as well.
Anyone else notice this issue? Any suggestions?
Thank you
Hi all.
I keep having issues with screen unlock.
First it would only unlock via fingerprint and not using pin.
To test a little i then selected pattern + fingerprint and now it doesn't require either except on first boot up. I can simply swipe to unlock. However, if I scan a non registered finger it says "no match".
I'm not connected to trusted devices...
Any ideas what causes this behaviour? It shouldn't be due to removing stock bloatware, right (Samsung, Google, FB apps)?
Many thanks!
It sounds to me like you have one of the "Smart Lock" settings enabled. These override the pattern and fingerprint settings when specific conditions are met: the device is on your body, the device is at home, or the device is within range of your smartwatch.
They should really be called "Smart Unlock" settings. You can find these settings under "Lock screen > Secure lock settings".
Sort of an old thread, but I'm also facing issues with the unlock screen lag. Somehow it is related to the battery saving: since it slows down the CPU, apparently the system doesn't have time to "process" the unlock pattern (or PIN, same problem; and hang me if that process should take longer than a couple nanoseconds), and the screen goes back to black before the unlock is successful. As a temporary workaround, I've disabled battery saving, and now at least I can unlock with pattern or PIN. But the real problem must reside somewhere else. It's not acceptable that an operating system takes that long in processing the unlock.