Hi All, someone asked a question that reminded me of this niggle with my THD, I want to enable a password on my device (as well as a pin lock) so if my THD is stolen someone cant ignore the pin unlock screen and still gain access to my data, (8gb is a LOT of personal data).
The reason i am so keen to do that is my tytn2 got stolen, and as they couldnt get it on my personal details (u know the important stuff we are not supposed to have on phones - card nos and account numbers, that we all have buried somewhere on our phones anyway) was safe i eventually got the phone back trashed, but still secure.
When i go into the lock program in settings and set it to ask a password when the device goes on it disables the ability to use the keylock (long press of the end key) when the phone is on. As the big screen is very easy to press by mistake id rather have the ability not to phone people from my pocket so my THD isnt password protected - hope it doesnt get nicked. The PIN lock is fine, and i have set that up ok but that only stops people using the phone, they can still get into the PDA functions and data. unless im able to password protect it as well
Has anyone found a work around, cos id love to be able to password protect it AND have the ability to use the keylock function.
cheap trick but you might want to try and install s2u2? an external locking program which you can customize (in both aspect and behavior) to your liking... only problem is that as far as i know you cannot map it to longpress of end key
does that work with tf3d?
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i was wondering if i could get sum people to tell me about ehir experiences with their locking/unlocking programs...such as, which ones youve used with success...im interested in knowing which ones use the least about of battery power, least amount of memory/ram...so on and so forth...any input wiould be greatly appreciated
specifically programs being used with the touch pro 2
I'm personally not a big fan of screen lock programs. I just think that for something as simple as locking the screen, the end-user shouldn't have to give up anything in terms of resources/battery life.
That's why I suggest sticking with the default WinMo lock.
I suggest either SmartLock or LockDevice to auto lock your device. Neither uses up any resources.
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
I would really like to use the app, but there is a dialer conflict when getting incoming calls for boths apps. For example during an incoming call, I initially get HTC dialer. During the middle of the call, I get the original WM dialer. Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem?
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pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
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Thanks: I've loaded lockDevice and so far so good
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I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
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What I meant was that my understanding of the default WinMo lock is that it only locks after a specific period of in activity (which I don't want to happen) rather than after a suspend (which is what I do want).
Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
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This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
I just want to get this straight because I actually thought the encryption settings on the phone were leading to the wonky behavior I noticed about the standard swipe away lock screen and a protected (PIN or whatever) lock screen... that led me to waste hours while the phone encrypted & then eventually screwed up during the decryption of my memory card.
Basically, the standard unprotected lock screen can just be wiped away - everyone knows that. But on every Android device I've owned up to this one (Hero, EVO, Nexus S, Photon, Evo 3D) when you set up a password lock you can set how long a time period passes before that actually kicks in. It seemed like this phone was no different, at first. I mean, there's a timer setting under the password lock options.
However, what I've been able to figure out is (and mentioned in another thread) the moment you set a password protected lock screen it replaces the standard swipe away lock screen all together. For reference, on other phones even if the password lock is triggered, when you turn on the phone the first thing you see is your standard lock screen and whatever information you have there - if you choose to swipe that away the lock screen you actually have to unlock is there. One of the reasons I don't like the implementation on this GS2 is because I actually like the large easy-to-glance clock and information on the lock screen (and missed call, msgs updates, etc). However, that's besides the point, which is that there's a setting for the password lock Timeout - which is screwy because it only takes effect if your screen turns itself off (on the timer set in the normal display screen timeout settings). If you turn the phone off yourself, the password protected lock screen is activated immediately.
I've found that having a 1-2 minute screen timeout is perfect because it lets me either be distracted for a bit while I do stuff on the phone (watch tv?) or try to show someone something on the phone without having to worry about it turning off on them. Normally it's not a problem because I instinctively turn off the screen myself when I'm done using it. In the few days I've had this phone I don't WANT to turn it off because I know I'll have to unlock it again. I usually love the security of a password lock but this seems inconvenient and, well, stupid.
So no password lock = lockscreen with useful information at a glance.
Set up a password lock = ^^ useful screen gone.
Password lock timeout only applies to the screen auto-shutoff = if you manually shut off your screen you HAVE to unlock it even if you turn it on a moment later.
I haven't really seen anyone say anything about this and I guess I'm a bit surprised by that. Again, one of the first things I did when I got the phone was transfer a larger capacity memory card to it that had a number or picture albums and movie transfers to it - then during the time I set up the phone I chose to set up a password lock, then encrypt it (took about 5 or 6 hours!). Since I did these things back to back I thought the encryption was the reason I had to unlock the phone almost every single time I turned it back on. It was only after I was playing with the settings (and eventually had to hard reset when the decryption process screwed up) that I see it didn't really have to do much with that at all. Well, aside from the fact that encryption requires a password lock, which leads to this whole thing. So anyway, yeah - that's like one of my only complaints about an otherwise killer device.
I'm gonna look into the framework when I get home. I remember seeing a bunch of lockscreen settings and triggers. Maybe its just a matter of changing a "true" to a "false"
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Because of health issues I have an app on my phone that first responders such as paramedics can use to see my medical history, medication, allergies etc., and lets me easily call emergency numbers if I am in a condition to do so. This app is from the play store and is one of the many just called ICE. Several of these apps have an associated widget that they can place on the lock screen, that can be used immediately, even if a password is set there.
The problem I have, is that if I set a password or fingerprint in the phone security settings, it prevents a first responder from seeing the lock screen and widget, and retrieving the information. Is there any way of getting the widget onto the password screen? I realise I could stop setting a password on the phone in security settings. I don't like having a password on the lock screen, because every single time the the screen is woken up, a password has to be entered.
I would be grateful if anyone is able to give me ideas of a work-around.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-lock-screen-widgets-t3167027
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Because of health issues I have an app on my phone that first responders such as paramedics can use to see my medical history, medication, allergies etc., and lets me easily call emergency numbers if I am in a condition to do so. This app is from the play store and is one of the many just called ICE. Several of these apps have an associated widget that they can place on the lock screen, that can be used immediately, even if a password is set there.
The problem I have, is that if I set a password or fingerprint in the phone security settings, it prevents a first responder from seeing the lock screen and widget, and retrieving the information. Is there any way of getting the widget onto the password screen? I realise I could stop setting a password on the phone in security settings. I don't like having a password on the lock screen, because every single time the the screen is woken up, a password has to be entered.
I would be grateful if anyone is able to give me ideas of a work-around.
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It is not the lock screen that I need to place a widget on. Many of the ICE apps from Play Store will already do this. But if one sets a password there, then it needs to be used every time the screen is woken up, which is a pain. Ideally I would like to be able to set the system password from the settings menu, and for a paramedic still be able to access the widget without entering a password. - Mike
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It is not the lock screen that I need to place a widget on. Many of the ICE apps from Play Store will already do this. But if one sets a password there, then it needs to be used every time the screen is woken up, which is a pain. Ideally I would like to be able to set the system password from the settings menu, and for a paramedic still be able to access the widget without entering a password. - Mike
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When woken up, it wont directly ask for password, unless you set "directly show PIN" enabled, or when it trigger by finger. If its woken up using button, it will simply show lockscreen
i think you should take a screenshot of the condition you expect (turn off your pass first, maybe) to give us better idea regarding the situation.
The condition I need is that a widget should be available to allow a paramedic or doctor acess to my medical conditions etc, even when the phone is protected by a pasword. Maybe this is impossible and I shall just have to leave my phone unprotected by a password.
As far as I can remember Oxygen OS had this feature already built in.
I just put my I.C.E. Info on my lock screen. With my emergency info and numbers on it.
If your medical conditions are that serious, you should have a medical alert bracelet or tag.
Hi there, Please help me with this weird bug in my MM3's lock function. I haven't read about it anywhere else and I did not update or tweak my rooted system in any way so I'm at a loss as to what caused this probleman d how to fix it.
I am no longer able to employ a simple numerical or pattern screen lock. I go to settings, choose and then confirm the number or pattern, and hit accept -- at which point it asks me for a fingerprint (which I do not want to add) and when I hit cancel, the phone remains unlocked. If I hit add a fingerprint and refuse to present my finger, the phone also remains unlocked. This is so freaking weird!
(MM3 rooted but on stock Android 9 PKQ1.181007.001 -- Miui Global 11.0.6 Stable)
Honestly, I wouldn't give a damn as I never use a screen lock except I am in fact forced to use it every few weeks or whenever I want to review my Brave browser passwords. It forces me to set a lock screen in order to see them. So if there's a workaround just to see passwords, that would do me fine.
Because the basic number and pattern locks aren't functioning properly, I wouldn't even consider adding a fingerprint (and in fact, I have never done so. I have a probably irrational distrust of fingerprint, voice and retina security ... plus I live alone so such measures aren't necessary)
Can anyone give me any clues as to what could be causing this and how to fix it or get around it? Or even if there is a way to see my Brave passwords without employing a lock?
Theoretically, I could try temporarily installing a fingerprint lock which I could then remove after reviewing my Brave passwords. But I have an irrational dislike of fingerprint, voice and retina locks and never use that stuff. Moreover, given the basic number and gesture locks aren't functioning properly, the last thing I want to do is try a fingerprint.