So can you use the iris scanner and back it up with a fingerprint too? Not 2 factor but in regular use cases like driving a car or wearing sunglasses, or simply hitting the home button to power the screen on?
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I believe you're asking if the Iris Unlock and Fingerprint Unlock can both exist as an unlock option at the same time so you're free to choose whichever one you want to use whenever you want?
Kinda like... normally, you would want to use the fingerprint unlock, but on those days when its raining and your hands are wet, you can simply swipe up to activate Iris Unlock instead?
If that's what you're asking, I believe YEP it can!
If you take a pause at 03:04, on the unlock screen that he has, there's this message that says,
"Use fingerprint to unlock or swipe screen to use iris instead."
It looks like the reviewer has both set up so he's free to use either option as his choice.
Even if this would be possible, I woudn't use it to compromise security.
There's no sense for an iris scanner, if the informations can be accessed by a fingerprint scan.
And when your finger is wet, just dry and use it.
I really preferr fingerprint scan to unlock the system and iris scan, to access very confident informations (telebanking, passwort store and so on).
Zolares said:
I believe you're asking if the Iris Unlock and Fingerprint Unlock can both exist as an unlock option at the same time so you're free to choose whichever one you want to use whenever you want?
Kinda like... normally, you would want to use the fingerprint unlock, but on those days when its raining and your hands are wet, you can simply swipe up to activate Iris Unlock instead?
If that's what you're asking, I believe YEP it can!
If you take a pause at 03:04, on the unlock screen that he has, there's this message that says,
"Use fingerprint to unlock or swipe screen to use iris instead."
It looks like the reviewer has both set up so he's free to use either option as his choice.
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Exactly right. You can set both up and use whichever you prefer in any occasion.
hkr said:
Even if this would be possible, I woudn't use it to compromise security.
There's no sense for an iris scanner, if the informations can be accessed by a fingerprint scan.
And when your finger is wet, just dry and use it.
I really preferr fingerprint scan to unlock the system and iris scan, to access very confident informations (telebanking, passwort store and so on).
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I don't understand how this combination would compromise security, since the level of security of fingerprints and iris scanner remains unchanged.
On a whole, the Iris Scanner is already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner.
From what I know of the phone, even if you use the Iris Scanner as an option to unlock the device, you're still able to use it as the unlocking method for a more confidential storage option like the Secure Folder.
Since its two different things, you're free to use the more secure Iris Scanner to both unlock the system and to access confidential information.
But I believe, fingerprint scanner would be used more simply because its quicker to unlock on a typical use case than the extra step for the Iris Scanner.
Honestly, I'm very excited about this combination.
A few months back, I ran into this scenario where I tripped and fell on my hands. Ended up scraping my fingers against the concrete and it tore some skin and left some scars that didn't leave for a few weeks. So at the time, fingerprint unlocking didn't work and since I primarily used Fingerprint Unlock, I forgot my backup password and had to rely on the GMail option to unlock device.
For a few weeks, I had to switch to using a Pattern Unlock till I healed enough to switch back to Fingerprint.
Now, if I had this phone, I could simply switch to the Iris Scanner and unlock without having to bother with the entire trouble of trying to remember backup password, gmail unlock, and switching to Pattern Unlock.
The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
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The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
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Ahh, I misunderstood you.
So you meant that using both would give people a less secure option to get into your device when its safer to just use the more secure method?
I misunderstood because in your original post, it sounded like you preferred the fingerprint unlock for unlocking device and would rather dry your fingers instead of using the iris unlock.
The wording confused me.
hkr said:
The Iris scanner is, as you write, "already more secure than the Fingerprint Scanner".
But if you use both in parallel, you reduce your security level to the Fingerprint Scan.
If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations.
Iris scan does not bring any additional security, if you use it in parallel with fingerprint scan, unless you don't forget to put all your sensitive informations in the secure folder ...
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Fully agree with you but also personally I don't care. It isn't about added security for me. Finger is fine. I just want gloves on convenience.
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If someone steals your device and has your fingerprint, he might get access to your informations. ...
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If someone has my finger to open my phone, I have bigger problems than them getting access to whatever is on my phone...
He doesn't need your finger, a fingerprint on a glass will do nicely
With the Iris Scan it's a bit more tricky, there he might need your eye ...
Maybe a good reason, not to use Iris scan, if you mess around with the wrong people ...
I entered one finger print successfully on my new Oneplus 3. I can't find how to set it to be used ever - instead of a PIN for example. It never seems to be requested. But I haven't tried to use Android Pay yet. Is there something else I should set?. - Mike
You might be just amazed by a blazingly fast fingerprint sensor. Try to unlock your phone with another finger.
Also, you don't need to do the fingerprint again for Android Pay if you've already unlocked the phone.
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I entered one finger print successfully on my new Oneplus 3. I can't find how to set it to be used ever - instead of a PIN for example. It never seems to be requested. But I haven't tried to use Android Pay yet. Is there something else I should set?. - Mike
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Well. You can unlock the phone with it, except the first time after a reboot. You can also us it in Play Store instead of a password for purchases. Chrome can use it, I have heard (not working in Firefox which I'm using).
You set a PIN in Lockscreen settings, add a few fingerprints from different hands (make sure you scan it like you would unlocking with one hand) and it'll automagically use the fingerprint sensor instead of a Lockscreen PIN (but you could use a PIN too if you want to).
The lockscreen fingerprint isn't "requested" per se, it just works. You see a small fingerprint thumbnail instead of a lock icon.
Or did I misunderstand you here?
So, get this - lately my iris scanner unlocked the phone only after two successful scans. This is how it goes down:
- press power button to wake up device
- swipe up to use the iris scanner
- scan eyes - PASS
- The device remains LOCKED and a message appears on top - "Tap to use the iris"
- I tap that message, the iris scanning procedure begins again
- scan eyes - PASS - UNLOCK!
It bothered me so bad for the past few days, I wanted to do a hard reset to see if it was a glitch with the rom, but I had the great idea to revert to stock density (whichever that was) with "wm density reset" in adb shell. Then, BOOM!! It worked with only one try! How can that be? I started playing with densities and the conclusion is that the scanner works with only one attempt if you use the stock density. If any other density value is used, you have to scan your eyes twice (with that tap of the message in between) which makes it sooooooo annoying!
The phone is not rooted, I don't use any exchange/lock widgets, etc that would enforce other security policies.
Anyone can confirm this is happening with other models as well? if not, maybe it's only my setup or some apps I have or just a bad rom and a reset would clear it.
BTW.. I hate the pin enforcement while using 3rd party lock apps.. as far as I know there's no alternative, right? Tried Good lock but 1) I don't like it a bit! and 2) it still requires pin while using nova gestures to lock... so....
Anyway.. lemme know on your thoughts on this situation.
The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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papamalo said:
The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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I guess you are on miui? miui is not really google-smart-lock friendly, and i think not all smart-lock features are supported by miui. you could install some miui-xposed modules or you should try out a custom rom like omni or rr then all your problems are gone.
You can voice unlock your phone, but your screen must be on. You cant unlock your phone while locked + screen off with your voice.
Taking a picture by voice is working for me without any problems, but i guess this is because i am on a custom rom.
You could remove your pin/pattern by deleting some files in twrp, but this is not recommended at all. Its always better to have a backup for your fingerprint and you dont need to use your pin at all anyway, since you just put your finger on the sensor and it will unlock your phone without a pin/pattern.
If you dont want to unlock/root your phone then you have to live with some missing features i guess, but you should give Android Auto a try, if you use your phone alot while driving.
Hi there, Please help me with this weird bug in my MM3's lock function. I haven't read about it anywhere else and I did not update or tweak my rooted system in any way so I'm at a loss as to what caused this probleman d how to fix it.
I am no longer able to employ a simple numerical or pattern screen lock. I go to settings, choose and then confirm the number or pattern, and hit accept -- at which point it asks me for a fingerprint (which I do not want to add) and when I hit cancel, the phone remains unlocked. If I hit add a fingerprint and refuse to present my finger, the phone also remains unlocked. This is so freaking weird!
(MM3 rooted but on stock Android 9 PKQ1.181007.001 -- Miui Global 11.0.6 Stable)
Honestly, I wouldn't give a damn as I never use a screen lock except I am in fact forced to use it every few weeks or whenever I want to review my Brave browser passwords. It forces me to set a lock screen in order to see them. So if there's a workaround just to see passwords, that would do me fine.
Because the basic number and pattern locks aren't functioning properly, I wouldn't even consider adding a fingerprint (and in fact, I have never done so. I have a probably irrational distrust of fingerprint, voice and retina security ... plus I live alone so such measures aren't necessary)
Can anyone give me any clues as to what could be causing this and how to fix it or get around it? Or even if there is a way to see my Brave passwords without employing a lock?
Theoretically, I could try temporarily installing a fingerprint lock which I could then remove after reviewing my Brave passwords. But I have an irrational dislike of fingerprint, voice and retina locks and never use that stuff. Moreover, given the basic number and gesture locks aren't functioning properly, the last thing I want to do is try a fingerprint.