why gcam over xiaomi stock cam app? - Redmi Note 8 Questions & Answers

I'm using redmi note 8 for about 3 months. And i took pretty pictures with stock app. I tried gcam after I've seen a lot of people are using it. I mean why? First of all i couldn't use my ultra wide or macro lens. And ultra wide really captures nice landscape pics. What am i missing? I am doing a wrong thing with sticking to stock app? I just need enlightening

GCam produces higher quality pictures as far as i used it. The HDR mechanism is much more refined, the low light performance is miles better than the stock app, and you can use all the lenses using the right GCam build.

porzka said:
GCam produces higher quality pictures as far as i used it. The HDR mechanism is much more refined, the low light performance is miles better than the stock app, and you can use all the lenses using the right GCam build.
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I'll add, with the right GCam build, and with an unlocked bootloader paired with Camera2api mod.

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Better camera app?

Has anyone found a camera app that better utilizes the 13mp camera? It can take some pretty sharp shots but I'd love to find something a little better built.
sn0w said:
Has anyone found a camera app that better utilizes the 13mp camera? It can take some pretty sharp shots but I'd love to find something a little better built.
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People say Camera zoom fx is nice. Personally I want the 4.2 camera app ( not the pre release app, the one with the update). If anyone has an apk for it, please post it.
sn0w said:
Has anyone found a camera app that better utilizes the 13mp camera? It can take some pretty sharp shots but I'd love to find something a little better built.
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I've used zoomfx the difference between it and the stock camera app are stark. Check the topic on pictures with the 13 MP camera I started a few days back. I posted comparison shots of results between the two apps. It's not even close zoomfx is much better in low light settings, haven't played much with zoomfx with daytime shots, but in good lighting so far about the same I think, but again haven't really played with it much yet.
touchprofan said:
I've used zoomfx the difference between it and the stock camera app are stark. Check the topic on pictures with the 13 MP camera I started a few days back. I posted comparison shots of results between the two apps. It's not even close zoomfx is much better in low light settings, haven't played much with zoomfx with daytime shots, but in good lighting so far about the same I think, but again haven't really played with it much yet.
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Thanks guys, I just tried it out and noticed a huge difference in the low light pictures. So much more detail was captured by zoomfx.

P10 Camera Talk Thread

anyone have success in running google pixels camera on P10 for HDR +, and what other camera apps You use ?
I use Cortex camera for quality slow photography (multi processing) like S8 but much more frames (s8 takes 3 photos and combine them) Cortex use 10 - 100 photos for best quality.
I also use A better camera, but still missing Super sensor option on P10 for best output.
Stock camera use too much sharpening for landscapes and distance objects, but it is fine for near objects...
I've not had any problems with the stock camera and can't get Google pixel camera to install.
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Google camera apk with hdr enabled
Not working with my mate 9
Anyone having problems with the panorama photos they are crap! The joins are rubbish and any horizon shots I take look like the Manhattan skyline!
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Looks mostly fine to me when shooting horizontal panoramas. The only vertical panorama I've shot is blurry on one half and I don't like manual switching between shooting vertical and horizontal panoramas. Overall I like samsung's panorama user experience better but I think I'll live
The Huawei Leica camera also use stacking when processing the pictures.
ClausG76 said:
The Huawei Leica camera also use stacking when processing the pictures.
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Yes but stack bw & color photo? result is fine details but also some noise is present.
The P10 raw image have very high dynamic range. So it can stack them like the Pixel does.
https://youtu.be/Fuqz_iiodSM
Here is my test against Galaxy S8, what You think about camera ? sry for maybe boring music
Video part is recorded on Huawei P10 in 4K..
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Anyone having problems with the panorama photos they are crap! The joins are rubbish and any horizon shots I take look like the Manhattan skyline!
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Yes they are ... Huawei have to improve ?
The panorama is really not good. I hope Huawei will fix it soon.
For now, I have a photo for you all I made with my P10. Nothing edited, shot in manual mode free handed.
Hola
RE: P10 Camera a talk
I'm seeing much better results than Pixel or iPhone 7.
Quiet satisfied with the camera but I hope they will port PanoSphere to their Camera Mode
This is one shot with a really hard light, the phone however did a really great job.
arcangelbelo said:
This is one shot with a really hard light, the phone however did a really great job.
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You edit it?
A bit of snapseed, I used hdr filter and some detail.
Coguar said:
anyone have success in running google pixels camera on P10 for HDR +, and what other camera apps You use ?
I use Cortex camera for quality slow photography (multi processing) like S8 but much more frames (s8 takes 3 photos and combine them) Cortex use 10 - 100 photos for best quality.
I also use A better camera, but still missing Super sensor option on P10 for best output.
Stock camera use too much sharpening for landscapes and distance objects, but it is fine for near objects...
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Just casually run into this thread (I own a Mi5s) since I have also looked for alternatives to Google's multiframe hdr+.
On the Mi5s Cortex works wonderfully on low light still subjects. But my favorite app is Snap Hdr Camera on multiframe Nightmode (usually set to 4-8 frames) for those shots that require iso 400-2000, much faster than Cortex, and better than Better Camera on my phone. Incidentally Almalence, Better Camera's developper has licensed its technology to Huawei in the past.
Is there a way to completely disable all the beautification and bokeh options for the front camera? I don't like the effect at all and disabling it every time can't be the only solution.
That's weird. On my phone, it's only on if i left it on the last time I used the camera..

Gcam vs zuicam

Can any I compare ZUI Cam with Gcam...??
In low light Gcam is much better with very low noise compared to zuicam and better colors as well, gcam also has portrait mode which is not there in zuicam, In good lighting conditions gcam is still better but not by much, but beware that gcam takes quite a bit of HDR+ processing time and lacks pro mode as well
rehankumar said:
In low light Gcam is much better with very low noise compared to zuicam and better colors as well, gcam also has portrait mode which is not there in zuicam, In good lighting conditions gcam is still better but not by much, but beware that gcam takes quite a bit of HDR+ processing time and lacks pro mode as well
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I think it is subjective, because for me the ZUI came is better compared to any other camera.
The speed of the focus, then the speed to take photos, working slow-mo etc.
And I did notice more noise when using gcam in low light situations, even with camera2.

GCAM with aux lens working [No Root]

Today i found a thread here on xda claiming that a developer named Wichaya has a gcam port in which all the lens work completely fine.
I went ahead and downloaded the latest version and loaded the respective config file. Everything works perfectly in the port. I'll share the link for everyone to try and test it.
GCam port: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-wichaya/
Config file: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/configs-wichaya-02/
Link to original thread:
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...camera-support-many-devices-without-root/amp/
All lenses are working... but in my case, the macro lens cannot focus. Anyone else is experiencing this?
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Installed on my OP7T and everything seems to work correctly. But does anyone know which "AWB in HDR+ Enchanced" setting is best? It gives me 3 options (Pixel 3, Pixel 2, & IMX586).
I don't really notice a difference between the 3 options.
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All lenses are working... but in my case, the macro lens cannot focus. Anyone else is experiencing this?
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Same issue here
ahepas said:
All lenses are working... but in my case, the macro lens cannot focus. Anyone else is experiencing this?
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Our phone doesn't have any dedicated macro lens, instead it uses ultra wide lens for taking macro photos when using OnePlus camera app I think,, though I'm not 100% sure about it. 7T has 48MP wide (main rear cam), 12MP 2x telephoto and 16MP ultra wide. That's why a specific 'macro' button isn't there in the Gcam screen on 7T, like it shown on that XDA thread which I think that phone has a dedicated macro lens.
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JC8588 said:
Installed on my OP7T and everything seems to work correctly. But does anyone know which "AWB in HDR+ Enchanced" setting is best? It gives me 3 options (Pixel 3, Pixel 2, & IMX586).
I don't really notice a difference between the 3 options.
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I clicked 3 photos in 3 different AWB settings and i can say that Pixel 2 AWB has the warmest color rendition whileas Pixel 3 AWB has somewhat lowered down warmth. The IMX586 AWB has the closest to real life color rendition. You can test it in greenery and blue skies, where the difference is clearly visible
Can someone help me understand the 3 buttons that's appear on the botton left hand side after loading the XML configs. I am interested in the first two actually. One with the SUN icon and the second with the finger pointing.
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I clicked 3 photos in 3 different AWB settings and i can say that Pixel 2 AWB has the warmest color rendition while has Pixel 3 AWB has somewhat lowered down warmth. The IMX586 AWB has the closest to real life color rendition. You can test it in greenery and blue skies, where the difference is clearly visible
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This makes sense, considering that's what sensor the 7T uses.
I could be wrong. I honestly do rarely claim to know what I'm talking about :laugh:
However, seeing that it's apparently still being used in newer models of OnePlus as well as numerous other manufacturers and models (262 in total, counting the 7T) according to this kimovil.com page, I wouldn't be surprised if before too long we start to see improved versions of the algorithms used in this camera on other (arguably better) models find their ways to the 7T.
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Check out GSMArena's camera compare tool between the 7T, the Asus ROG Phone 2 and the Nubia Magic 3. All three use the same sensor. Since the sensor's the same, it begs the question: Is the hardware between the sensor and the OS any different, or is the improvement of photo entirely in firmware?
I wouldn't mind having photos like that ROG 2 come out of my 7T! Look at any fine detail area, but I like comparing the "Series 2013" on the five-dollar bill of the "good light" sample. I gotta say though... I didn't look at the "low light" sample before, but our 7T (stock) does better in low light than the other two I chose for comparison. Maybe there's something to be said for it -- especially considering night-time photography is a thing I want to play with...
bloyf said:
Can someone help me understand the 3 buttons that's appear on the botton left hand side after loading the XML configs. I am interested in the first two actually. One with the SUN icon and the second with the finger pointing.
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Sun icon is Exposure Compensation (Automatic with A and Manual with Sun icon), AWB is Auto White Balance with 3 different modes. Finger icon is Focus Tracking Button (On and Off)
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All three use the same sensor. Since the sensor's the same, it begs the question: Is the hardware between the sensor and the OS any different, or is the improvement of photo entirely in firmware?
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Yes, there is a lot of difference in the algorithms of every smartphone vendor. Despite all of them having the same hardware, the details, color, white balance etc. all come out to be different. Like everybody wants to have GCam because of the Image Signal Processing it provides, which is way better than any other manufacturer.
Any idea how to enable 10 bit recording in bt 2020?
It works but slow motion recording crashes the app. It also takes time to switch between the cameras. Any solutions for these issues?
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is what I have been waiting for since getting this phone. Wow what a difference this makes. My only question is how can I adjust the sharpness of the front selfie camera? Like all Gcam apps the selfie camera is way too strong and the sharpness needs to be toned down but I cant find any of the settings to do this.
Any possibility of getting full resolution with Gcam mod, it is giving only 12MP in rear camera
I've been using this mod for quite a while but couldn't figure out a way to get the DNG (RAW files) working well with any editing apps ??*
Using newest Wichaya 3.1.1 and it is fantastic. Very accurate pictures, (too accurate, if you have an ugly face like moi. The night shot is slightly slower than stock, but works well. Also, the macro actually zooms closer than stock by a good margin! Use the wide angle lens and just zoom in!
Do the aux lenses work with the new Android 11 beta?
GreenApp said:
Using newest Wichaya 3.1.1 and it is fantastic. Very accurate pictures, (too accurate, if you have an ugly face like moi. The night shot is slightly slower than stock, but works well. Also, the macro actually zooms closer than stock by a good margin! Use the wide angle lens and just zoom in!
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What xml do you use?
Wichaya v 3.1.1 noise models
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Do the aux lenses work with the new Android 11 beta?
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Updated my OnePlus 7T to Android 11 Beta 2 and, unfortunately, it looks like the only lens working is the main one. The others just show a black screen but at least it doesn't crash.

Question What is the zoom lens for?

Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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I have never gotten the telephoto lens to show up in gcam. Only the 50MP wide cam and the 12MP ultra wide cam. The 50 gives you zoom options but the 48MP telephoto never shows up
monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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It's a 4x telephoto, which is a lot for portraits (so portraits are taken using main camera at 2x magnification).
No, it's not being used for enhancing ultrawide. I suppose it's also because if the same reason mentioned above (OnePlus uses it's 2x tele for this as well).
Telephoto is really only useful for zooming 4x and up all the way to 20x, when photos are still kinda useful (depending on a scenario), thanks to being a 50 MP sensor and some Google's AI magic.
I take a lot of zoomed pictures and I don't mind curved display. Battery is okay, 6 hours of SOT are real for me, usually on social networks and news scrolling. Sometimes I play a League of Legends, than it will drop to 4-5 hours.
Zoom lens is for... zooming in. I would think that would be self-explanatory?
It kicks in when the magnification reaches about 4.5x. Switching between sensors is exclusively a matter of changing the magnification level, not by "selecting" a particular camera. There are other details considered before switching sensors, such as exposure requirements.
You can tell which sensor is in use by briefly blocking sensors with your finger. When you see your finger on the screen, you found the sensor that is in use.
Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.
monocay said:
Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.
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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).
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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).
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Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?
monocay said:
Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?
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No. 1x and 2x are the only options available. The telephoto lens isn't used in portrait mode.

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