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Replacement camera app

My wife wants a new phone for Christmas to replace her ageing HTC Desire S. She complains mainly about the naff camera on the Desire and wants something better.
Not wanting to break the bank, I was looking at the Moto G as a possible replacement. I know the camera has its shortcomings but wondered if anyone has tried using any other camera apps to see if they make a difference in things like focus speed and shutter lag on the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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Sorry, posted in wrong section. Please can this be deleted mods and I'll repost in Q A.
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If she wants better camera, tbh you should look elsewhere since Moto G cam isn't great...
I used camera360 ultimate on my moto G and its not great improvement...
Since i don't care about the cam, its the first midrange android i bought...and it ticks everything except cam and audio quality (through headphone)
You could get her a nice 8mp phone but since you are on a budget...
My first android phone was a samsung s2 8mp which takes better shot that my nexus4.

Maybe try Focal.

Floechen95 said:
Maybe try Focal.
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Compared Focal to the stock camera app facing light. Default settings on both apps. Focal did pretty bad

I found stock camera not so bad (for such a cheap phone).
I tried also Camera Zoom FX (ugly) and Camera FV 5 (a little better but nothing special).
The only other camera app that seems to perform well is VSCO Cam: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vsco.cam&hl=it

I was also looking for a low-maintenance, point & shoot camera app that'll produce better pics than stock. I'll give VSCO a try.

The camera will not have massive improvements by chainging camera apps, litle or no improvement will be seen.

The Moto G camera is not that bad in my opinion. The reviews made me belive it was terrible. It's definitely not the best camera in the market, but for casual photos it can handle pretty well. And you can still use all those photo editing apps to make some color correction and etc.
This topic has some pictures taken with the Moto G in different situations, so you can decide for yourself if the 5MP camera is enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
If you want something better you should probably consider another device as different camera apps wont give you a big improvement.

The camera in the Moto G is perfectly adequate. Not excellent, mind you. But good enough for normal use. The light is a bit dodgy but the quality and colour is fine on the test photos I took. Nothing that cant easily be fixed in Photoshop.
But lets be honest here. What are people going to use if for? Photographing food for Instagram and taking blurry selfies in the bathroom mirror? You don't need 41 megapixels for that.

it's not the best or the greatest. coming from an 8mp htc vivid there is a difference. better then expected though, and better then my old nexus one 5mp with flash.

Just so you guys know, when you take a picture in "Widescreen" (default setting, aka 16:9 aspect ratio), the picture is only 3.8 MP. If you turn it off in the camera app, it's 5 MP.

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Just so you guys know, when you take a picture in "Widescreen" (default setting, aka 16:9 aspect ratio), the picture is only 3.8 MP. If you turn it off in the camera app, it's 5 MP.
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Ive taken the same photo in both modes but still get slightly more detail in widescreen.

Any camera samples ?

Anyone have camera picture samples, daylight and low light.
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I've got some.
Low light.
https://goo.gl/photos/Uxi7idDFtidD7M7n8
Outdoors.
https://goo.gl/photos/VQqyRV9JbGag9u7M7
Lights on and lights off.
https://goo.gl/photos/LHgQdT6fyFfoJnaf9
Overexposed HDR mode.
https://goo.gl/photos/L34PDv76i7qKdH6Y6

Various Moto Z Play camera tests on YouTube

Does the Z Play support full RAW mode?

How does the camera compare to the original moto z any better or worse, who ever has both devices .
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Daylight

Here some images at full Resolution. Most of them were shot under not so ideal conditions but I think they are good especially with the given conditions. They were all shot with the Snap Camera App, denoise filter disabled, sharpness filter decreased a little. Just click on the links below:
A lot of small details in this image which come out really well. Also the dynamic range and the colors are great I think.
Denoise disabled too, maybe a little to much sharpening. Therefore noise came out a little to much but nice details if you look at the meadow, trees and roof.
Optimized the sharpening filter a little.
A shot against the rising sun. You could still see details of the plants in the foreground.
Very dark - actually it was darker than it appears on the image:

iphone 7 plus vs z play camera
https://youtu.be/9l2EaJuW7zw

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Does the Z Play support full RAW mode?
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the Hasselblad True Zoom Moto mod supports shooting in RAW.
RAW isn't supported on stock though

You can't really see why the cam is kind of crap in image samples.
Images look allright, but the terrible autofocus make quickly snapping a picture, or scanning a barcode you hold close to the camera, or tapping somewhere to focus on that part of the image a major pain.
Coming from a Nexus 5X the camera image quality does not really bother me, the terrible handling does

No filters used in any images.

Daylight. Taken in Val Badia, Italy.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S11 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Few testing photos

I've loved the quality from the camera , I came from a Galaxy s10 and the difference is crazy noticeable, man the sharpness , contrast ,detail , zoom , bro is amazing I'm freaking nin love with this phone , sorry I can't upload photos , xda app says "bad request" ?

I don't know...the quality of the zoom is pretty junk

cause there is no zoom just sensor cropping and pathetic pricing, try Mi 10 pro

I like S20 Ultra 108Mpx sensor. Mostly I'm shooting on this sensor with export to 12Mpx in Lightroom if I'm not using 0.5x or 4x lenses.
https://photos.miksa.cz/Samsung-Galaxy-S20-Ultra-5G/Plucinske-skaly-18042020/

So I had an exynos S20, camera was very poor even after the update.
The 64mp camera had practically no auto focus, and the lag in taking the pic ment blur on every photo.
The lower resolution helped with the auto focus however still lag in the photo taking.

I am so much mad at this quality of photos near objects
I was trying to send my friend photo some resistors , and tried 5 times and photo is not sharp !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b4kpk2jfh35ov1/20200422_190444.jpg?dl=0
shame on me that I sold my old pixel4XL phone

Ultra has problem with close photo. Try more distance and zoom.

nowy57 said:
I am so much mad at this quality of photos near objects
I was trying to send my friend photo some resistors , and tried 5 times and photo is not sharp !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b4kpk2jfh35ov1/20200422_190444.jpg?dl=0
shame on me that I sold my old pixel4XL phone
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The main camera isn't for shots that close

I hadn't had a Samsung phone for a while, and I've come from a Mate 20 Pro, so although the camera on my S20+ "can" be better, it sometimes isn't at all. Macro is one area where Huawei does it so much better, all you need to do on a Huawei phone is get close to the target and the ai automatically switches camera lens for you to the best option, and focuses perfectly... This is something Samsung seems to lack, and it's a big miss for me. But surely, something that can be added in software.

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I hadn't had a Samsung phone for a while, and I've come from a Mate 20 Pro, so although the camera on my S20+ "can" be better, it sometimes isn't at all. Macro is one area where Huawei does it so much better, all you need to do on a Huawei phone is get close to the target and the ai automatically switches camera lens for you to the best option, and focuses perfectly... This is something Samsung seems to lack, and it's a big miss for me. But surely, something that can be added in software.
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Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense

Didn't you just used to turn off Master Ai? That's what I used to do on the Mate 20 Pro on the odd occasion and it was very easy, but personally I thought it was mostly a great feature.
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Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense
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did you try to scan(make photo) of text page ?
I do a lots of scaning recipts/invoice and send them to my acccountant , most of them is not readble , too blurry

madpete said:
Didn't you just used to turn off Master Ai? That's what I used to do on the Mate 20 Pro on the odd occasion and it was very easy, but personally I thought it was mostly a great feature.
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Yes, as I said, disabling AI made no difference for macro auto

Oh right, that's wierd it worked fine on my Mate 20 Pro.
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Used to hate that with my P30, there was no way to disable AI from switching to macro, if they'd added that feature to the AI on/off function it would have made a lot more sense
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Yes, as I said, disabling AI made no difference for macro auto
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Even my old iPhone 7 takes better photos then my S20+ Exynos

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Hello guys , I have a p40 pro , I just get it and I can still return it ...the thing its that I'm thinking to move to S20 Ultra , It's worth it ? From what I saw the camera on S20 Ultra its pretty bad .
Also, if someone knows , In UK at vodafone , wich version its sold , Ex or Snapdragon ?
I'm thinking about samsung because it has google services and much more development , but camera it's very important as well .

nowy57 said:
did you try to scan(make photo) of text page ?
I do a lots of scaning recipts/invoice and send them to my acccountant , most of them is not readble , too blurry
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what is your device? no issues for me S20 Ultra exynos

why gcam over xiaomi stock cam app?

I'm using redmi note 8 for about 3 months. And i took pretty pictures with stock app. I tried gcam after I've seen a lot of people are using it. I mean why? First of all i couldn't use my ultra wide or macro lens. And ultra wide really captures nice landscape pics. What am i missing? I am doing a wrong thing with sticking to stock app? I just need enlightening

GCam produces higher quality pictures as far as i used it. The HDR mechanism is much more refined, the low light performance is miles better than the stock app, and you can use all the lenses using the right GCam build.

porzka said:
GCam produces higher quality pictures as far as i used it. The HDR mechanism is much more refined, the low light performance is miles better than the stock app, and you can use all the lenses using the right GCam build.
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I'll add, with the right GCam build, and with an unlocked bootloader paired with Camera2api mod.

Question What is the zoom lens for?

Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?

monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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I have never gotten the telephoto lens to show up in gcam. Only the 50MP wide cam and the 12MP ultra wide cam. The 50 gives you zoom options but the 48MP telephoto never shows up

monocay said:
Hi all. I am debating the switch from the regular 6 to the pro.
Looks I will be getting bigger higher refresh screen (pro) which is curved (con) and with worse battery life.
One thing that is not clear to me - is the zoom lens used in any other situations than when actively selecting it? For example - which of the lenses is being used when you select the portrait mode in the camera app? Is it using the telephoto lens to battle the fish eye effect?
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It's a 4x telephoto, which is a lot for portraits (so portraits are taken using main camera at 2x magnification).
No, it's not being used for enhancing ultrawide. I suppose it's also because if the same reason mentioned above (OnePlus uses it's 2x tele for this as well).
Telephoto is really only useful for zooming 4x and up all the way to 20x, when photos are still kinda useful (depending on a scenario), thanks to being a 50 MP sensor and some Google's AI magic.
I take a lot of zoomed pictures and I don't mind curved display. Battery is okay, 6 hours of SOT are real for me, usually on social networks and news scrolling. Sometimes I play a League of Legends, than it will drop to 4-5 hours.

Zoom lens is for... zooming in. I would think that would be self-explanatory?
It kicks in when the magnification reaches about 4.5x. Switching between sensors is exclusively a matter of changing the magnification level, not by "selecting" a particular camera. There are other details considered before switching sensors, such as exposure requirements.
You can tell which sensor is in use by briefly blocking sensors with your finger. When you see your finger on the screen, you found the sensor that is in use.

Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.

monocay said:
Yeah, thanks
What was not clear to me was if it is being used when shooting portrait photos, as some phones (e.g. Oneplus) do.
Looks like this is not the case.
I will stick with my vanilla 6 then, not missing out on much, subjectively.
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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).

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Portrait photos can be made with ANY lens, depending on the distance and direction to the subject(s).
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Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?

monocay said:
Is it so? How does the portrait UI looks on Pixel 6 Pro? On the vanilla pixel I have the options to shoot it in 1x and 2x only. Does the pro version offer a higher magnification, using the zoom lens instead of main one?
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No. 1x and 2x are the only options available. The telephoto lens isn't used in portrait mode.