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Upgraded from Nav3 to 5 which is working great except that the PDA will not power off automatically with Nav5 running. Also even if I manually switch the PDA off the battery consumption is very high (runs flat overnight). I'm not using bluetooth or WLAN and they are definately off. I don't have any other app's running.
Anyone else have this problem or suggest a workaround?
If I Stop the Nav5 application then power functions as normal but being forgettful it's hard to remember to do this every time!
Of course Tomtom support have been as useless as ever!!
It maybe dumb to suggest, but....
...do you 'Exit Application' when you've finished using TTN5?
If you don't, it will keep polling the Serial Port for your GPS reciever, and thus the handset won't fully 'stand-by' as serial activity will drain power.
I use TTN5, and as long as I exit, I have still got around 2 days out of a battery, with 'careful' usage.
No offence intended at all in this post - just perhaps highlighting the obvious!
R.
You are correct that exiting (ie Stopping) the application resolves the battery drain but I was using TTN3 previously with a serial receiver and that happily shut down when the PDA was off and did not need stopping.
Also with TTN5 running it stops the PDA switching off automatically, I have to switch off with the power switch.
I have an XDA II and M2000. i have the battery drain problem on both. i exit the app like i am supposed to, but when i start the device in the morning it has completely run flat! in the task manager there is nothing running when i put the device in standby...
any further thoughts?
i am using tomtom v5.21 and the latest roms.
Maybe do a scriptlike "shotdown all" before it goes into it's nightsleep
But i don't see a problem in shutting down TTN5 if you don't use it...
I don't even see a problem in switching off the Radio if i'm not listening etc. No pun intended, but if a programm keeps running it's pretty likely it drains the battery. You're just lucky if it doen't...
Hi all,
I've just spent a good amount of time browsing these forums - lots of good info here!
I've got my hands on a free i-mate jasjar from work as it is having battery issues and they just upgraded the user.
The issue is that it drains the battery in about 3-4 hours - thats with no sim in, phone / wireless / bluetooth turned off, very minimal use. We got a new battery for it in case that was the issue but it still loses it...
The other ones we have at work get at least a day / day and a half depending on usage.
I've reflashed it to the latest i-mate firmware (1.30.76 WWE) but stilll no luck....
Aside from sending it off for an expert to look at - does anyone have any suggestions on what i can do to diagnose / fix the problem?
Cheers
Sam
disable activesync checks
in wm5 activesync checks every 10 minutes or so for new data even if you do not have a server installed.... so.... here are the steps.....
with the device disconnected from the computer !
1. click "start"
2. click "programs"
3. click "activesync"
4. right soft button "menu"
5. click "add server to source"
6. fill in "1" in every field clicking "next" as you go through the proccess! (or any other fake data you want)
when you get to choosing what to sync, uncheck everything and click "finish"
7. right soft button "menu" again, now you'll have "schedule" lit
8. click "schedule"
9. change both drop down menus to "manually" and uncheck s"end outgoing items immediately"
10. click "ok"
11. right soft button "menu" again
12. click "options"
13. select the "exchange server", click "delete" and "yes"
14. click "ok"
YOUR DONE !
the device should last a lot longer !
have fun !
p.s.
don't forget to disable IR so the device won't try syncing with the sun ....
Great - I've set it up and will test it out over today - thanks for the reply
Make sure your infra red is also off, receive all beams is unticked.
Presumably you're not using any over clocking software? They disable the idle mode detection so make the battery less efficient, even at slow clocked speeds.
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Infrared is off, currently its got fresh firmware as off yesterday, charged overnight - no sim, every conceivable option turned off, no extra s/w installed.
Since 9am its now down to 85% - roughly using 10% per hour with zero use....
I have the Same Issue ,the battey use very fast .
at the first I think may be is the net lock make that, But yesterday ,I try to use the unlock tools ,but same as it.
the charge complete. close all function ,can't use more than 8 hour's.
I've the same issue,...change a batery with a new one, BUT when it goes les than 70% all the problem start, loose the phone signal, shot down....I've a official Qtek 9000 ROM of febr. '06
Andrea
Andre77ab said:
I've the same issue,...change a batery with a new one, BUT when it goes les than 70% all the problem start, loose the phone signal, shot down....I've a official Qtek 9000 ROM of febr. '06
Andrea
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I think That's the Radio or Hard device error.
If other Rom have not This issue. I think that's this rom make it .
There are a number of threads regarding batteries and new ROM versions and I think the concensus is that its the battery and it is just coincidence about the new ROM.
I have had my device for about 8 months and it has behaved well until a few weeks ago when it started to shut-down at 70-80% battery. The shutdown only occured when I had a heavy drain on the device e.g. when using GPRS or phone and I started to think that the battery was dying and the heavy current drawn by the radio caused the battery voltage to drop below a sustainable threshold for powering the device - hence the shutdown. £20 later I have a new battery (from eBay) and can go 1-2 days without charging. I am leaving the old battery on charge for several days to see if it can be salvaged
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There are a number of threads regarding batteries and new ROM versions and I think the concensus is that its the battery and it is just coincidence about the new ROM.
I have had my device for about 8 months and it has behaved well until a few weeks ago when it started to shut-down at 70-80% battery. The shutdown only occured when I had a heavy drain on the device e.g. when using GPRS or phone and I started to think that the battery was dying and the heavy current drawn by the radio caused the battery voltage to drop below a sustainable threshold for powering the device - hence the shutdown. £20 later I have a new battery (from eBay) and can go 1-2 days without charging. I am leaving the old battery on charge for several days to see if it can be salvaged
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Thank you help, But I return to the old version ROM. the batteries is OK. I don't know how to explain them
Try measuring the power consumption with acbPowerMeter and post your results so that we can see your device indeed has problems or not. See my related articles for more info (cross-posted to the General forum in here).
My Universal power consumption
With BT on and Wifi off power is at 642 mA...
Is it bad or good?
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With BT on and Wifi off power is at 642 mA...
Is it bad or good?
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What that's mean?
it means that the device has bt turned of, and also wifi turned of and acbmeter indicates a power consumption of 642
I also seem to have started incurring a problem with battery, it is shutting down the device at 50%, and yes there was a slight draing GPRS and Push Email running, and trying to make a phone call.
It only really happened today, and am at a loss as to the cause. I would guess, the battery is 1 year old and probably needs replacing.
i have been using two different 3.2 roms ltcmdr, then jw's for a while now and no problems until today.
I suspect its the age of the battery. I am in the process of trying to suck the battery down as far as I can, then recharge it.
It appears to do a complete shutdown every 2% from 50% to 40%, I am now trying to get it to less than 40%.
My original battery lasted me for about 8 months when I started experiencing the shutdown / hanging problem whenever the charge would drop to 35%. I replaced the battery with a new original battery and all went okay. Unfortunately my second battery is only 5 months old and I have started experiencing the same problem again although this time the problem is occurring at a charge level of 15%. When the battery reaches this level and I try to connect GPRs or make or receive a call the unit hangs. If I try to soft reset I cannot do so till I connect the external charger.
I think such a low battery life is simply unacceptable.
Regards
Ever wonder how a battery tells the system that it is full and to stop charging?
If you get a new battery, take the old one down to somewhere below 100% -then install a new ROM and see what the battery meter reads after the hard reset.
The system must recognize a point which would be monitored and recognized as "full battery". When installing new ROM's, the system takes the battery power at the time of the install as 100%. This is why it is reiterated in almost all ROM upgrade instructions:
"Your device battery must be fully charged before installing this ROM".
However, I'm not so keen as to have a fix; but I've noticed that when the battery is fully charged and the device is then unplugged, turned on and then off, then plugged back in...it seems to charge alot longer than what I would expect necessary to reach 100% once again.
dhob187 said:
in wm5 activesync checks every 10 minutes or so for new data even if you do not have a server installed.... so.... here are the steps.....
with the device disconnected from the computer !
1. click "start"
2. click "programs"
3. click "activesync"
4. right soft button "menu"
5. click "add server to source"
6. fill in "1" in every field clicking "next" as you go through the proccess! (or any other fake data you want)
when you get to choosing what to sync, uncheck everything and click "finish"
7. right soft button "menu" again, now you'll have "schedule" lit
8. click "schedule"
9. change both drop down menus to "manually" and uncheck s"end outgoing items immediately"
10. click "ok"
11. right soft button "menu" again
12. click "options"
13. select the "exchange server", click "delete" and "yes"
14. click "ok"
YOUR DONE !
the device should last a lot longer !
have fun !
p.s.
don't forget to disable IR so the device won't try syncing with the sun ....
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Will still be able to browse with my device? thx
I posted this in another thread but I'm not sure if it was the correct place so I moved it here.
I'm having big battery drain problems with my phone, please see screenshots for more information.
On the screenshots you can see that my battery lasted 7 hours one day and then almost 5 hours the other. I'm not sure what caused that, there was no major change in my daily routines with the phone, except maybe listened to music on my bluetooth headphones for more time than usual.
Here's my setup:
My phone is the LTE version (T999L)
I don't currently have any battery management apps (except for the battery monitor app "Wakelock Detector").
Stock 4.3
Not rooted
Screen is AUTO
Sync is ON
Wifi OFF during my work hours, I only turn it ON at home (at nights, but the battery is normally drained before that).
Bluetooth ON all the time because:
- The phone it's paired with my car
- I use BT headphones when at work
- And my Smart Watch 2 all day long
Casual gaming (I don't play much during the day, maybe for 30 minutes or less daily)
Can someone help me analyze this information to see what's wrong with my phone?
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I posted this in another thread but I'm not sure if it was the correct place so I moved it here.
I'm having big battery drain problems with my phone, please see screenshots for more information.
On the screenshots you can see that my battery lasted 7 hours one day and then almost 5 hours the other. I'm not sure what caused that, there was no major change in my daily routines with the phone, except maybe listened to music on my bluetooth headphones for more time than usual.
Here's my setup:
My phone is the LTE version (T999L)
I don't currently have any battery management apps (except for the battery monitor app "Wakelock Detector").
Stock 4.3
Not rooted
Screen is AUTO
Sync is ON
Wifi OFF during my work hours, I only turn it ON at home (at nights, but the battery is normally drained before that).
Bluetooth ON all the time because:
- The phone it's paired with my car
- I use BT headphones when at work
- And my Smart Watch 2 all day long
Casual gaming (I don't play much during the day, maybe for 30 minutes or less daily)
Can someone help me analyze this information to see what's wrong with my phone?
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My first guess would be to clear the data from any media related apps. Go into Settings > Apps > All Apps and look for any Media apps (including Downloads, Download Manager, Media Storage, any music apps you use, etc.). Then, click on them and click "Clear data".
Then reboot.
Let me know if that clears your battery drain.
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My first guess would be to clear the data from any media related apps. Go into Settings > Apps > All Apps and look for any Media apps (including Downloads, Download Manager, Media Storage, any music apps you use, etc.). Then, click on them and click "Clear data".
Then reboot.
Let me know if that clears your battery drain.
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Thanks a lot for your reply Bass_Man25.
OK so I tried this, I cleared data of a bunch of apps (including music players). I basically sorted the app list by size and cleared the data of the most heavy ones (more than 5MB in data), rebooted and left it charging until today, I woke up at 6:30 AM unplugged phone and now at 12:32PM my battery is at 20%, I don't see much change.
I'm thinking there must be an app causing this drain because the bluetooth can't be causing it, but I can't figure out which one.
I've been thinking of backing up my phone settings and such with Kies, factory resetting it and testing it out unless someone else has another idea.
it seems you have weak to mid-range signal most of the day. also, assuming you're Wi-Fi is not actually on the entire time, to disable the wi-fi from always scanning in Android 4.3, you have to turn off\uncheck the option in Settings > Wi-Fi > press "Menu" > Advanced > "Always allow scanning". that will help a lot
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it seems you have weak to mid-range signal most of the day. also, assuming you're Wi-Fi is not actually on the entire time, to disable the wi-fi from always scanning in Android 4.3, you have to turn off\uncheck the option in Settings > Wi-Fi > press "Menu" > Advanced > "Always allow scanning". that will help a lot
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Thanks for your reply Cobra281.
I actually don't have the WiFi ON during the day, unless my signal is pretty bad so I don't think that will change anything. And what do you mean with "it seems you have weak to mid-range signal most of the day."? Does having weak to mid-range signal drain my battery?
Have you tried Better Battery Stats? You can find a link here in XDA. Install that and let your ROM run for a while. It'll show you any kernal or partial wakelocks keeping the phone awake.
--EDIT-- Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
enveous said:
Thanks for your reply Cobra281.
I actually don't have the WiFi ON during the day, unless my signal is pretty bad so I don't think that will change anything. And what do you mean with "it seems you have weak to mid-range signal most of the day."? Does having weak to mid-range signal drain my battery?
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change the setting as i mentioned, because the Wi-Fi location scan is running, you have to run it via: turn off\uncheck the option in Settings > Wi-Fi > press "Menu" > Advanced > "Always allow scanning".
and yes, weak signal will cause more power use, as the phone is constantly trying to find decent service.
I've just changed from a Gear Live to a Moto 360 and after charging and syncing the battery died after three hours! Horrendous. Someone please advise! My gear Live with the same settings never did this.
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
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So which app was that. Could you be specific please? I've had my 360 since October and had no issues with battery life until about 2 weeks ago and now it can't make it through a work shift all of a sudden. I've seen the 'watch idle' and the android guy with no title in the battery stats (as well as 'Bluetooth', which is mind blowing) as the main drains but I can't figure out which apps need the boot. Thanks in advance for the help, this problem is driving me crazy!
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
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chrispy_212 said:
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
B1gC72 said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
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fyi - i haven't tested this since it happened, but i disabled BT on my phone (just disabled in settings, without disconnecting the wtch first) and the watch drained itself in probably about 20-30 minutes. When I finally got it charged, it said BT took everything.
When I was having app issues, I also noticed very high bluetooth consumption. This could likely be a poorly coded app constantly trying to ping your phone for data and receiving no reply as it is not designed for a scenario where your phone is not connected.
The alternative of course is defective hardware.
A step I did not include in my original post was that I also clean-flashed a new rom on my phone. I felt this was due to a unique problem that I had (bluetooth problems in car also) but nonetheless thought I should mention that too. It's hard to be sure which step exactly cured my watch.
Same was happening to me, after several master resets and trial and error, i found that on my Samsung s7 edge i had my watch set as a trusted device so when it was connected to my phone my device would unlock without passcode. After turning that off, battery life is normal again, 24hrs plus. I think the constant bluetooth checking to see if it was attached drained battery extremely fast, hopefully this helps someone
Hi, I need a bit of help please with my P6 still on 4.2.2 my issue is a massive drain on battery life apparently being caused by Android OS using up around 70%. I have only wifi and mobile internet running with location etc turned off. One thing that I'm unable to control the background apps manager setting properly in that the only app I want to keep running is WhatsApp so I set the All button to off. However in next to no time I find it has switched itself back to on.
I've been through manage apps and turned off or disabled pretty well all that I dare.
Many thanks in advance.
Oh, just to add a little more information if I try to access Start up manager I get a "Power manager has stopped working" message.
Is there some way I could reinstall or repair the Power manager?
Unfortunately WhatsApp seems to override sleep on a lot of systems so you may be in a situation where it is constantly waking itself up.
Try just letting it run i.e don't try to stop it in start manager.
Thanks for that, the problem doesn't appear to be with WhatsApp because when I look at the battery consumption tab the biggest user by far, and mean at up to 70% is the android OS.
I only mention start up manager as it's one of the items controlled through power manager. My real issue is the background apps manager self enabling all background apps.
I'm really trying to avoid doing a factory reset if possible.