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I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
couple of points.
1) When you leave the house, don't leave your wi-fi on! I find wi-fi to be the biggest battery drain out of everything ( expect gps)
2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
Wifi isn't an issue. I leave it on 24/7 as well as bluetooth and still can get 36 hours out od a charge. Its hooked up to wifi 20hrs a day as well.
Phil750123 said:
2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
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thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
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1. Battery and other constantly updating widgets are one of the causes for battery drain. Get rid of it.
2. Battery widgets try to get an estimate of your typical use. They are mostly wrong in my opinion
3. I can get 6 hours of battery, yes, but only if glue the phone to my hand and use it constantly for that time
4. there are tons of battery threads around, use those suggestions (mid brightness, no live wallpaper, turn airplane on when you know coverage will be unavailable for long, etc)
5. Battery gets better in 10 days.
6. Most people can get at the very least one day of heavy usage. If you really need to hammer the battery get a spare one, they are cheap. Oh, and realize you are lucky because you CAN have a spare battery !
7. If you are using an automatic task killer, get rid of it.
callummc said:
thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
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1) go to the market and search brightness level, or brightness widget, there are a number of these. The best i find is brightness level by curvefish, it lets you pick a percentage and keep at that .
2) Cant remeber actually where the settings are but there is a way. But i prefer to use another widget, autosync on/off, this allows you to update every 15 when on wi-fi, but when you want to save battery, turn auto sync off and it doesnt sync ,
I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
Nice post thanks.ill give this a go. But I have a question to do with the positioning using data or gps. I believe your stating that you should turn data off for this purpose, and let the gps do it? however my phone was set to opposite. when I changed as you were suggesting and I clicked allow gps, I had a message come up saying to turn off to conserve battery? But your saying to turn on? And have data off? Also how do you get into htc facebook settings,i cant even find it!
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I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
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yep i also use this widget
also use a free juice defender or paid ultimate juice that keeps turning on and off your 3g every now and then depending on how you schedule it, my phone with snowstorm weather widget updating every 80 minutes + 30s of 3g every 5 minutes to update mail etc and average usage lasts about 36 hours which is good enough for me
I leave my WI-FI on at home and suffer hardly any drain.
At work like today leave my Mobile network on down to 47% with just twitter usage!
Pathetic is the mobile signals drain.
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I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
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Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
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Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
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I believe this is what I'm saying:
"To let your device learn your location via wireless network triangulation requires less battery than by using the GPS for this purpose. However, using both methods simultaneously is probably not a good idea from a battery point of view. The GPS can handle this task by itself, although it will get a fix on your location a little bit slower. Also, wireless network positioning will be used to collect anonymous Google location data, which will drain the battery further. You can change this option from Settings > Location > Use wireless networks. "
In other words, to only use wireless network positioning will supposedly use less battery than by only using the GPS, but using both methods will naturally use the most juice
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
jauhari said:
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
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I can get get good days heavy usage (except games) from mine, I haven't tried the 2G thing yet.
Apparently it is the connectivity thing that kills the battery, but turning off 3G, doesn't that take all the fun out of it???
If you just use it as a phone then I reckon you can get a couple of days out of it, or so I've read...
there is a setting under settings / wireless and networks / mobile networks that says "enable always on mobile data"
Switching this to off about doubled my battery life and everything still seemed to work okay as far as data goes. All my apps worked including things that check or update periodically in the background - so I'm not sure what this feature does.
The only downside is that the phone would crash periodically in areas with poor reception. It would go back to the sprint boot animation and come up after a minute and the uptime would not be reset.
Imconvinced part of the battery life problem is due ton inefficient use of data, but I'm wondering what can be done about it without sacrificing stability. Ahylne else have a similar experience or willing to try it out or have more information?
Trying this out, seeing what it effects it has on my normally used apps. So far (first 20 minutes of doing it) everything seems to run fine. I would guess this causes the phone to "hibernate" the 3g radio whilst locked.
I started doing this on Hero and continue to do it on the Evo. The biggest issue is that if you are using pandora (or similar app), it causes problems when the phone goes to sleep.
The setting stops your 3g connection when the screen goes to sleep. This prevents the phone from updating email, twitter or whatever else you use. As soon as you turn the screen on, it turns on 3g, downloads your email etc.
I check my phone often enough (for the time or whatever) that I don't mind not getting my email immediately (it downloads when I turn the screen on).
This has saves a ton of battery life. The only time I enable always on mobile network is to listen to pandora. I have done this since day 1 and have had no issues.
I tried this last week and it made a massive difference in battery life. I turned it back on though because I do like my phone to download things while it is idle. I also don't want to get used to the improved battery life just to have to switch it back later.
i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.
I have this option unchecked and not only has my battery life improved, but I don't notice any performance or stability issues.
Also, my data continues to download in the background as normal (regardless of whether the screen is on or off). I have Facebook and Twitter set to download data every so often and it continues to do so. Even Google Voice will notify me of messages even if the screen is off.
I think what this option does is, when checked, makes the radio work hard to find and keep a data connection (especially in low signal areas). I notice that with the option unchecked, my data connection drops a bit more often than with it on. I don't mind that though seeing that the data connection simply reconnects automatically and almost instantly.
thanks!
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Would you all mind doing an experiment for me? Turn this option off (so data is not constantly on) and turn your screen on and put it in your microwave so it loses signal*.
Watch it and see if it crashes. I suspect something about this setting being off is causing the phone to crash when it loses its cell connection momentarily.
*Don't turn on your microwave.
Okay so after more research I'm pretty sure the main instigator of poor battery life is the data connection constantly going wild. According to SystemPanel my phone hangs out doing nothing downloading at 100-200Kbps for large amounts of time. Not sure what it's downloading.
To find out what apps were causing this I used Spare Parts and saw this:
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So a process with the PID of "0" is what is using most of the data connection, followed by UID 10011 which is contact/calendar/mail sync. I can click through to 10011 and get details, but if I try to click on PID "0" I get a force close.
There is also another preference under Accounts & Sync for "background data" and "auto-sync." I'm not sure what the difference is between this background data setting and the one in wireless & networks that says "enable always-on mobile data." Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Also interesting is what was happening when I had always on data disabled:
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You can see where my phone was crashing but look at my battery life before and after the crash. It looks like it has dipped significantly. Also, the crashes only lasted a minute while the phone rebooted, not nearly as long as what was recorded here - so it's possible something was going on with the battery life before the phone crashed.
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mastermayhm069 said:
i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.
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Could you please post you settings that you use with Juice Defender. Also, please post any suggestions about Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice.
Thanks, John.........
mastermayhm069 said:
i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.
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I swore Juice Defender only works with GSM and not CDMA.
It even say this when you go to download the app. Although I did just google it an apparently people have it going on the Motorola Droid rooted.
Who with Android experience wants to prove this?
OMGWTF_BBQ said:
I swore Juice Defender only works with GSM and not CDMA.
It even say this when you go to download the app. Although I did just google it an apparently people have it going on the Motorola Droid rooted.
Who with Android experience wants to prove this?
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+1 I thought this was the case too. i unchecked the data option. It's been a full day and no reboots
I'm running Juice Defender today and my battery life seems even worse. I'm talking 20-25% drop per hour.
SOMETHING is wrong here.
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I have this option unchecked and not only has my battery life improved, but I don't notice any performance or stability issues.
Also, my data continues to download in the background as normal (regardless of whether the screen is on or off). I have Facebook and Twitter set to download data every so often and it continues to do so. Even Google Voice will notify me of messages even if the screen is off.
I think what this option does is, when checked, makes the radio work hard to find and keep a data connection (especially in low signal areas). I notice that with the option unchecked, my data connection drops a bit more often than with it on. I don't mind that though seeing that the data connection simply reconnects automatically and almost instantly.
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The option is not meant to enable/disable applications from using the data connection when the screen is off, so applications should be able to continue updating.
What the option is meant to do is to determine whether your phone should maintain data connectivity all the time, even when there are no apps using data. Unchecking the option means that when an app needs data, it must first connect, then make its request. This makes it take a little longer (or maybe a lot longer for 4G which seems to take longer to initialize a connection).
I just got a new desire after my previous one got stolen.
I found out the battery of my new handset last dramatically less than the previous one...it doesn't even last one day!
I reduced the screen brightness to 20% and deactivated the 3g mobile data but on the battery screen usage it says as follows:
cell standby 31%
phone idle 30%
android system 23%
display 7%
voice calls 5%
internet 2%
dialer 2%
why would the usage be so high when the phone is in standby? why would it be so high for the phone idle?
I also found out it takes ages to shut down completely...is there anything running underneath that I can stop?
please advice the optimization setting to try to improve battery life please
thanks in advance
The percentages just express which parts of the battery drain (lets say you are on 68% --> 32% drained) have been used by which activity of the phone (so they are not absolute but relativ values).
In a combination of your and my example this would mean.
30% cell standby --> 30% of 32% is at least only 1/9th of the whole battery.
Hope you get what i am trying to explain
I see where you come from but I don't think this can explain why I need to charge it every 5 hours.
Have you calibrated it,?? Search battery calibration, and try that.
Is your phone rooted michaelss16???
no my phone is not rooted but I think I managed to sort it out!
set it up as follows:
MENU> settings>wireless and network>wi-fi seettings>menu>advanced> wi-fi sleep policy> after 15 minutes
MENU> settings> sound and display>brightness> uncheck automatic brightness> reduce brightness manually by sliding it down to no more than 30%
MENU> settings> sound and display>screen timeout> set it no more than 1 minute
MENU>settings>account and sync>uncheck background data (it is possible to check it manually by refreshing it everytime is needed)
MENU>settings> Location> uncheck both "use wireless networks" and " use GPS satellites"
MENU> friendstream>menu>settings>Accounts and sync>for any of your active accounts(facebook, flickr, twitter) go to account settings>update schedule>set it up not more often than every 4 hours. (you can update it manually anytime you want)
MENU>Latitude>menu>privacy>turn off latitude. (it is possible to turn it on when maps app is needed...don't need it on all the time)
MENU>Stocks>menu>advanced>uncheck auto-sync data (you can refresh as needed)
MENU>weather>menu>settings>uncheck update automatically (agai nit is possible to update it manually by hitting refresh button)
In addition when in charge at night I shut mobile network off (I don't check updates-mail or post if I sleep)
Since I don't expect any phone call at night I turned the radio off by dialing *#*#4636#*#* >phone information>turn off radio (don't do it if a phone call is expected).
it is also possible to access battery history to check through all the processes running on the background and using power,CPU memory and bandwidth. ( the menu settings battery information refer only to the TIME of each process draining the battery and not the amount of battery drained by each process).
Now I understand why phone idle and standby was so high when checked in the morning..they are the only processes running at night when the phone is in charge if it is on).
Hope it can be usefull ....now it says 14h 52m and 13s since unplugged and battery level is still 54!
michaelss16 said:
no my phone is not rooted but I think I managed to sort it out!
set it up as follows:
MENU> settings>wireless and network>wi-fi seettings>menu>advanced> wi-fi sleep policy> after 15 minutes
MENU> settings> sound and display>brightness> uncheck automatic brightness> reduce brightness manually by sliding it down to no more than 30%
MENU> settings> sound and display>screen timeout> set it no more than 1 minute
MENU>settings>account and sync>uncheck background data (it is possible to check it manually by refreshing it everytime is needed)
MENU>settings> Location> uncheck both "use wireless networks" and " use GPS satellites"
MENU> friendstream>menu>settings>Accounts and sync>for any of your active accounts(facebook, flickr, twitter) go to account settings>update schedule>set it up not more often than every 4 hours. (you can update it manually anytime you want)
MENU>Latitude>menu>privacy>turn off latitude. (it is possible to turn it on when maps app is needed...don't need it on all the time)
MENU>Stocks>menu>advanced>uncheck auto-sync data (you can refresh as needed)
MENU>weather>menu>settings>uncheck update automatically (agai nit is possible to update it manually by hitting refresh button)
In addition when in charge at night I shut mobile network off (I don't check updates-mail or post if I sleep)
Since I don't expect any phone call at night I turned the radio off by dialing *#*#4636#*#* >phone information>turn off radio (don't do it if a phone call is expected).
it is also possible to access battery history to check through all the processes running on the background and using power,CPU memory and bandwidth. ( the menu settings battery information refer only to the TIME of each process draining the battery and not the amount of battery drained by each process).
Now I understand why phone idle and standby was so high when checked in the morning..they are the only processes running at night when the phone is in charge if it is on).
Hope it can be usefull ....now it says 14h 52m and 13s since unplugged and battery level is still 54!
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Basically you just did what I always recommended you, update manually all the applications, except for the radio, I just turn off the mobile data so I can still receive calls...
Battery drain and overclocking
I rooted my phone and installed Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.1. After installing i guess a default value has been set for the OCD as around 996000. I later changed it to the highest value and played a game. with in minutes my battery drained to 30% from 70%.
I mainly rooted my phone so that the memory constraint in HTC Desire can be done with so that i could install more and more apps and games.
I NEED TO PLAY GAMES and WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST VALUE to keep FOR OCD, so that my phone is fast and i could play games without even a minor lag.
And i also have another problem, in call history i dont see names against the calls made. However i can see those people in my contact list with names and numbers, but in call history i see only numbers and a + sign asking me to save to contacts.........
Can anyone help??
--If this is an irrelevant question in this thread, can you suggest me the correct thread, i searched and i searched but couldn't find to end on one........
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--If this is an irrelevant question in this thread, can you suggest me the correct thread, i searched and i searched but couldn't find to end on one........
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Does the "new thread" button not work for you? Hijackers should be prosecuted
For long time I was using Starburst ROM (stock + D2SD on SNQ kernel). It was really good in performance and battery saving due to basic Sense 2.2. I could play AngryBirds couple hours long. The major factor was screen brightness to be dimmed a bit. Since I dropped gaming behavior I had no experience with other ROMs/kernels I was trying.
-andy.
When I first got the Note 5 last week, I noticed the battery life wasn't so great. After making some tweaks I've noticed that 1) Android system isn't the number one thing eating up my battery 2) Cell standby isn't consuming more battery than my screen anymore and 3) Screen is the number one thing consuming battery and I'm getting fantastic screen on time. The first attached pic shows stats from my phone being off the charger for almost 8 hours and I was connected to my wireless earbuds via bluetooth and streaming pandora for almost 4 hours while traveling to and from the gym and during my workout (all over the network, no wifi but when I'm home or in the office, I'm always on wifi) plus I had about 1 1/2 hours of SOT. The Second pic is day 2 with 1 day and 2 hours of use with 37% still left and 3 hours of SOT. Also, I have Google Now running, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter constantly running and I maybe lose 1% battery life every hour or longer when I'm not using the phone.. I'd like to thank @rlsroufe for his debloat list because that was a big starting point.. Here's what I did:
-Disable AT&T/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Disable S Finder (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History (Huge battery drain, causes play service and/or Android system to go nuts)
-Turn off Android Device manager (Lock Screen and Security —> Device Admin)(Also causes play service drain)
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-If you use Adguard, turn it off when you don't actually need it and just flip the switch when you do
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off Enhance4GLTE (basically voice over LTE, makes cell standby consume a lot of battery)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
Reboot and enjoy..
XavierD8188 said:
When I first got the Note 5 last week, I noticed the battery life wasn't so great. After making some tweaks I've noticed that 1) Android system isn't the number one thing eating up my battery 2) Cell standby isn't consuming more battery than my screen anymore and 3) Screen is the number one thing consuming battery and I'm getting fantastic screen on time. The attached pic shows stats from my phone being off the charger for almost 8 hours and I was connected to my wireless earbuds via bluetooth and streaming pandora for almost 4 hours while traveling to and from the gym and during my workout (all over the network, no wifi but when I'm home or in the office, I'm always on wifi) plus I had about 1 1/2 hours of SOT. Also, I have Google Now running, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter constantly running and I maybe lose 1% battery life every hour or longer when I'm not using the phone.. I'd like to thank @rlsroufe for his debloat list because that was a big starting point.. Here's what I did:
-Disable AT&T/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History (Huge battery drain, causes play service and/or Android system to go nuts)
-Turn off Android Device manager (Lock Screen and Security —> Device Admin)(Also causes play service drain)
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-If you use Adguard, turn it off when you don't actually need it and just flip the switch when you do
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off Enhance4GLTE (basically voice over LTE, makes cell standby consume a lot of battery)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
Reboot and enjoy..
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Turn off the phone. Best battery saving advice
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
How exactly is that turning off the phone? It just disabling things that aren't useful to me and getting good results..
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Turn off the phone. Best battery saving advice
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
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XavierD8188 said:
How exactly is that turning off the phone? It just disabling things that aren't useful to me and getting good results..
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I think it was sarcasm.
I had posted this in another thread, but using package disabler to disable "s-finder" seemed to have made a large difference in battery for me. I (personally) usually keep location services and android device manager active, however.
One thing common with many android phones is that for the first couple of days after you first get the phone (or factory reset it), location services tends to draw more power when compared to after you've had it a while. I have nothing to confirm this (and I've been too lazy to try and verify it), but I suspect that location services keeps a cache of cell phone tower locations... so the drain would be higher while its still building up that cache.
Yeah I feel like disabling S finder helped as well.. I consider that samsung bloat as well but I'll add that to the list, thanks. I keep location service on as well but I turn off location history which is what I think was causing stuff to go nuts and def noticed a difference right away. Device manager I don't really use because I noticed if you factory reset your phone via the phone recovery, you still have to sign into your google account before you can do anything with it so that's nice.
Yeah that sounds like a logical theory and could very well be what was draining battery. But literally 2 hours after turning off Enhance4gLTE, cell standby dropped and noticed battery life was a lot better. There's been a few threads on that as well as VoLTE (tmo equivalent) that suggest that's the issue for drain as well.
garyd9 said:
I think it was sarcasm.
I had posted this in another thread, but using package disabler to disable "s-finder" seemed to have made a large difference in battery for me. I (personally) usually keep location services and android device manager active, however.
One thing common with many android phones is that for the first couple of days after you first get the phone (or factory reset it), location services tends to draw more power when compared to after you've had it a while. I have nothing to confirm this (and I've been too lazy to try and verify it), but I suspect that location services keeps a cache of cell phone tower locations... so the drain would be higher while its still building up that cache.
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XavierD8188 said:
Yeah I feel like disabling S finder helped as well.. I consider that samsung bloat as well but I'll add that to the list, thanks. I keep location service on as well but I turn off location history which is what I think was causing stuff to go nuts and def noticed a difference right away. Device manager I don't really use because I noticed if you factory reset your phone via the phone recovery, you still have to sign into your google account before you can do anything with it so that's nice.
Yeah that sounds like a logical theory and could very well be what was draining battery. But literally 2 hours after turning off Enhance4gLTE, cell standby dropped and noticed battery life was a lot better. There's been a few threads on that as well as VoLTE (tmo equivalent) that suggest that's the issue for drain as well.
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Can you share your disabled list in Package Disabler Pro please?
Got this via @rlsroufe and @mcdavid
FYI - There's an Extreme (left column) and Basic (right column), I just went with the Basic one. Green Means I left it alone, Orange means I disabled it and Yellow means you can but don't have to. This is for the Tmo variant so some things wont be on this list so I just went one by one and did it just by typing in the last word of the application. Anything that I actually used I left alone but you can mix and match if you want and see what works best for you.
andythilo said:
Can you share your disabled list in Package Disabler Pro please?
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XavierD8188 said:
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
Reboot and enjoy..
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Okay.. So Samsung made this SUPER ambiguous.. But the "Disable Pen Detection" setting.. Are you saying that that toggle needs to be ON or OFF? What does the setting do anyways? I can't understand Samsung's wording in the settings..
Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Okay.. So Samsung made this SUPER ambiguous.. But the "Disable Pen Detection" setting.. Are you saying that that toggle needs to be ON or OFF? What does the setting do anyways? I can't understand Samsung's wording in the settings..
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XavierD8188 said:
Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Haha, I think there's a setting for what you described (other than pen detection) but have you noticed the battery life is better when that setting is turned off? Or is it not noticeable?
I'm not 100% sure because I did everything pretty much at once. It does say it might help save battery so that was enough for me. Everything has been working great so far tho, finished charging my phone around 12 today, left it for 2 1/2 hours and didn't lose a percent even tho FB, Email, App update and Text messages were coming in so I think it's a combination of everything
skadude66 said:
Haha, I think there's a setting for what you described (other than pen detection) but have you noticed the battery life is better when that setting is turned off? Or is it not noticeable?
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I'm not 100% sure because I did everything pretty much at once. It does say it might help save battery so that was enough for me. Everything has been working great so far tho, finished charging my phone around 12 today, left it for 2 1/2 hours and didn't lose a percent even tho FB, Email, App update and Text messages were coming in so I think it's a combination of everything
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Wow that's really good! I might have to try it out and see if it makes a discernable difference. Thanks!
No problem. You'll def notice a diff in standby time..
skadude66 said:
Wow that's really good! I might have to try it out and see if it makes a discernable difference. Thanks!
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XavierD8188 said:
Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Actually leaving it in on position turns off pen detection which saves battery. I am rooted, checked with SQL editor.
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Someone said the opposite and gave the same reason why lol. D*mn Samsung for not be clear
rlsroufe said:
Actually leaving it in on position turns off pen detection which saves battery. I am rooted, checked with SQL editor.
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Someone said the opposite and gave the same reason why lol. D*mn Samsung for not be clear
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So what is the verdict? Off or on?
LOL says in my settings for this "turning off pen detection when the pen is attached can extend battery life".
So i turned mine OFF
My secret is leaving it charging all day, all night, all day etc. That's the only way.
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Based on rlsroufe's SQL dump, the option should be ON which disables pen detection.
When you pull the pen out and the phone no longer 'sees' it, it uses the motion detector to see if you are walking away. If you go like 12 steps you get an alert.
Turning this option ON, disables this detection when the pen is attached to the phone.
Hey @oka1 can you please close this thread or disable the comments. I will no longer be supporting it because I no longer have this phone. Thank you
I've recently upgraded to the Google Pixel 6 Pro after 8 years with the Google Nexus 5, so, this would be my first time with a "modern" smartphone as of present
Everything is wonderful except one thing, the battery life
When idling (I do not touch the phone at all, rarely or no lock/unlock) I watched my Pixel 6 Pro drained 6% in the span of 2 hours, so roughly 3% per hour (That is a lot!), compared to my Nexus 5 which feels like it drained 5% if left alone for the whole day
What is going on? is it a "modern" phone thing? is it my phone? my settings? at this rate, it needs to be charged daily
Here is the Battery Usage breakdown;
https://imgur.com/a/mgJsN7n
Battery Usage breakdown while asleep;
https://imgur.com/a/Mj3VDE3
Why does "Mobile Network Standby", "Ambient Display", "Phone Idle" eat so much battery while idling, I am thinking of getting rid of "Your Phone Companion" even though I find it useful, conflicted if it is worth the battery, everything else looks good
EDIT: I am happy to say, after uninstalling "Your Phone Companion" the battery began to show improvement and following all the battery tips helped me maximize it, now I feel like I can go 3 days with the phone without charging it
In one of the battery threads Mobile Network Standby is a big topic. It appears to be a bug that is impacting some people. I would expect a fix from goggle for that. I have nothing on ambient display.
It's highly possible your phone isn't ever going into a deep sleep, which can cause unnecessary battery drain from apps that are stuck running in the background, or causing the phone to "wake". Did you transfer over all your apps and settings from your old phone? Some have said this has caused unusual high battery drain, and a factory reset where you don't restore from backup has helped.
Install AccuBattery or GSam battery monitor to get an understanding of your battery usage in greater detail.
AccuBattery - Apps on Google Play
AccuBattery monitors battery health performance via science
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GSam Battery Monitor - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
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Thank you so much for this, it helps to compare
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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
minun said:
I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
minun said:
I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
minun said:
Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
minun said:
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby...
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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That's it! Just turned it off, I must've forgotten about that one lol. Thanks
RetroTech07 said:
Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If I turn off Adaptive Connectivity, it would just stay on LTE and won't switch between 5g (setLTE is my preferred network),3g,2g?
how about "Allow 2G", do I need this on and would turning it off save battery? it read
'Use 2G mobile connections. For emergency calls, 2G is always turned on.'
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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No, that's not how adaptive connectivity works. Your phone will always prefer the highest tier network available (as long it get's a signal).