When I first got the Note 5 last week, I noticed the battery life wasn't so great. After making some tweaks I've noticed that 1) Android system isn't the number one thing eating up my battery 2) Cell standby isn't consuming more battery than my screen anymore and 3) Screen is the number one thing consuming battery and I'm getting fantastic screen on time. The first attached pic shows stats from my phone being off the charger for almost 8 hours and I was connected to my wireless earbuds via bluetooth and streaming pandora for almost 4 hours while traveling to and from the gym and during my workout (all over the network, no wifi but when I'm home or in the office, I'm always on wifi) plus I had about 1 1/2 hours of SOT. The Second pic is day 2 with 1 day and 2 hours of use with 37% still left and 3 hours of SOT. Also, I have Google Now running, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter constantly running and I maybe lose 1% battery life every hour or longer when I'm not using the phone.. I'd like to thank @rlsroufe for his debloat list because that was a big starting point.. Here's what I did:
-Disable AT&T/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Disable S Finder (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History (Huge battery drain, causes play service and/or Android system to go nuts)
-Turn off Android Device manager (Lock Screen and Security —> Device Admin)(Also causes play service drain)
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-If you use Adguard, turn it off when you don't actually need it and just flip the switch when you do
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off Enhance4GLTE (basically voice over LTE, makes cell standby consume a lot of battery)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
Reboot and enjoy..
XavierD8188 said:
When I first got the Note 5 last week, I noticed the battery life wasn't so great. After making some tweaks I've noticed that 1) Android system isn't the number one thing eating up my battery 2) Cell standby isn't consuming more battery than my screen anymore and 3) Screen is the number one thing consuming battery and I'm getting fantastic screen on time. The attached pic shows stats from my phone being off the charger for almost 8 hours and I was connected to my wireless earbuds via bluetooth and streaming pandora for almost 4 hours while traveling to and from the gym and during my workout (all over the network, no wifi but when I'm home or in the office, I'm always on wifi) plus I had about 1 1/2 hours of SOT. Also, I have Google Now running, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter constantly running and I maybe lose 1% battery life every hour or longer when I'm not using the phone.. I'd like to thank @rlsroufe for his debloat list because that was a big starting point.. Here's what I did:
-Disable AT&T/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History (Huge battery drain, causes play service and/or Android system to go nuts)
-Turn off Android Device manager (Lock Screen and Security —> Device Admin)(Also causes play service drain)
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-If you use Adguard, turn it off when you don't actually need it and just flip the switch when you do
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off Enhance4GLTE (basically voice over LTE, makes cell standby consume a lot of battery)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
Reboot and enjoy..
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Turn off the phone. Best battery saving advice
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How exactly is that turning off the phone? It just disabling things that aren't useful to me and getting good results..
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Turn off the phone. Best battery saving advice
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How exactly is that turning off the phone? It just disabling things that aren't useful to me and getting good results..
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I think it was sarcasm.
I had posted this in another thread, but using package disabler to disable "s-finder" seemed to have made a large difference in battery for me. I (personally) usually keep location services and android device manager active, however.
One thing common with many android phones is that for the first couple of days after you first get the phone (or factory reset it), location services tends to draw more power when compared to after you've had it a while. I have nothing to confirm this (and I've been too lazy to try and verify it), but I suspect that location services keeps a cache of cell phone tower locations... so the drain would be higher while its still building up that cache.
Yeah I feel like disabling S finder helped as well.. I consider that samsung bloat as well but I'll add that to the list, thanks. I keep location service on as well but I turn off location history which is what I think was causing stuff to go nuts and def noticed a difference right away. Device manager I don't really use because I noticed if you factory reset your phone via the phone recovery, you still have to sign into your google account before you can do anything with it so that's nice.
Yeah that sounds like a logical theory and could very well be what was draining battery. But literally 2 hours after turning off Enhance4gLTE, cell standby dropped and noticed battery life was a lot better. There's been a few threads on that as well as VoLTE (tmo equivalent) that suggest that's the issue for drain as well.
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I think it was sarcasm.
I had posted this in another thread, but using package disabler to disable "s-finder" seemed to have made a large difference in battery for me. I (personally) usually keep location services and android device manager active, however.
One thing common with many android phones is that for the first couple of days after you first get the phone (or factory reset it), location services tends to draw more power when compared to after you've had it a while. I have nothing to confirm this (and I've been too lazy to try and verify it), but I suspect that location services keeps a cache of cell phone tower locations... so the drain would be higher while its still building up that cache.
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Yeah I feel like disabling S finder helped as well.. I consider that samsung bloat as well but I'll add that to the list, thanks. I keep location service on as well but I turn off location history which is what I think was causing stuff to go nuts and def noticed a difference right away. Device manager I don't really use because I noticed if you factory reset your phone via the phone recovery, you still have to sign into your google account before you can do anything with it so that's nice.
Yeah that sounds like a logical theory and could very well be what was draining battery. But literally 2 hours after turning off Enhance4gLTE, cell standby dropped and noticed battery life was a lot better. There's been a few threads on that as well as VoLTE (tmo equivalent) that suggest that's the issue for drain as well.
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Can you share your disabled list in Package Disabler Pro please?
Got this via @rlsroufe and @mcdavid
FYI - There's an Extreme (left column) and Basic (right column), I just went with the Basic one. Green Means I left it alone, Orange means I disabled it and Yellow means you can but don't have to. This is for the Tmo variant so some things wont be on this list so I just went one by one and did it just by typing in the last word of the application. Anything that I actually used I left alone but you can mix and match if you want and see what works best for you.
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Can you share your disabled list in Package Disabler Pro please?
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XavierD8188 said:
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
Reboot and enjoy..
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Okay.. So Samsung made this SUPER ambiguous.. But the "Disable Pen Detection" setting.. Are you saying that that toggle needs to be ON or OFF? What does the setting do anyways? I can't understand Samsung's wording in the settings..
Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Okay.. So Samsung made this SUPER ambiguous.. But the "Disable Pen Detection" setting.. Are you saying that that toggle needs to be ON or OFF? What does the setting do anyways? I can't understand Samsung's wording in the settings..
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Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Haha, I think there's a setting for what you described (other than pen detection) but have you noticed the battery life is better when that setting is turned off? Or is it not noticeable?
I'm not 100% sure because I did everything pretty much at once. It does say it might help save battery so that was enough for me. Everything has been working great so far tho, finished charging my phone around 12 today, left it for 2 1/2 hours and didn't lose a percent even tho FB, Email, App update and Text messages were coming in so I think it's a combination of everything
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Haha, I think there's a setting for what you described (other than pen detection) but have you noticed the battery life is better when that setting is turned off? Or is it not noticeable?
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I'm not 100% sure because I did everything pretty much at once. It does say it might help save battery so that was enough for me. Everything has been working great so far tho, finished charging my phone around 12 today, left it for 2 1/2 hours and didn't lose a percent even tho FB, Email, App update and Text messages were coming in so I think it's a combination of everything
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Wow that's really good! I might have to try it out and see if it makes a discernable difference. Thanks!
No problem. You'll def notice a diff in standby time..
skadude66 said:
Wow that's really good! I might have to try it out and see if it makes a discernable difference. Thanks!
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Lol yeah, there was a big discussion in anther thread about that. Putting it in the 'Off' position turns it off which is what you want.. I believe it just turns off the feature when you walk away from your s pen and it warns you.. I could be wrong tho but since doing it, nothing has changed with the S pen and it all works the same exact way when I pull the s pen out
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Actually leaving it in on position turns off pen detection which saves battery. I am rooted, checked with SQL editor.
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Someone said the opposite and gave the same reason why lol. D*mn Samsung for not be clear
rlsroufe said:
Actually leaving it in on position turns off pen detection which saves battery. I am rooted, checked with SQL editor.
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Someone said the opposite and gave the same reason why lol. D*mn Samsung for not be clear
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So what is the verdict? Off or on?
LOL says in my settings for this "turning off pen detection when the pen is attached can extend battery life".
So i turned mine OFF
My secret is leaving it charging all day, all night, all day etc. That's the only way.
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Based on rlsroufe's SQL dump, the option should be ON which disables pen detection.
When you pull the pen out and the phone no longer 'sees' it, it uses the motion detector to see if you are walking away. If you go like 12 steps you get an alert.
Turning this option ON, disables this detection when the pen is attached to the phone.
Hey @oka1 can you please close this thread or disable the comments. I will no longer be supporting it because I no longer have this phone. Thank you
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I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
couple of points.
1) When you leave the house, don't leave your wi-fi on! I find wi-fi to be the biggest battery drain out of everything ( expect gps)
2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
Wifi isn't an issue. I leave it on 24/7 as well as bluetooth and still can get 36 hours out od a charge. Its hooked up to wifi 20hrs a day as well.
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2) I use a brightness widget, therefore when your in doors you can have it on low, then when your out doors have it on high, i assume this will use less battery then auto brightness
3) why do you need facebook updating every 15 minutes?? Do you honestly look at your phone that much when your out? change the settings so it updates every 15 when your on wi-fi at home, and every hour for when your not.
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thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
I have a widget that shows me how much I have left and when I unplug it after a full charge, I have 6 hours left.
Ridiculous.
This is on auto brightness, wifi, twitter/facebook/mail updating every 15 minutes.
whenever I take my phone out the house I have to bring a charger...
bloody ridiculous.
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1. Battery and other constantly updating widgets are one of the causes for battery drain. Get rid of it.
2. Battery widgets try to get an estimate of your typical use. They are mostly wrong in my opinion
3. I can get 6 hours of battery, yes, but only if glue the phone to my hand and use it constantly for that time
4. there are tons of battery threads around, use those suggestions (mid brightness, no live wallpaper, turn airplane on when you know coverage will be unavailable for long, etc)
5. Battery gets better in 10 days.
6. Most people can get at the very least one day of heavy usage. If you really need to hammer the battery get a spare one, they are cheap. Oh, and realize you are lucky because you CAN have a spare battery !
7. If you are using an automatic task killer, get rid of it.
callummc said:
thanks!
1) whats the name of this widget? sounds good
2) is there a setting for that? cant find it
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1) go to the market and search brightness level, or brightness widget, there are a number of these. The best i find is brightness level by curvefish, it lets you pick a percentage and keep at that .
2) Cant remeber actually where the settings are but there is a way. But i prefer to use another widget, autosync on/off, this allows you to update every 15 when on wi-fi, but when you want to save battery, turn auto sync off and it doesnt sync ,
I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
Nice post thanks.ill give this a go. But I have a question to do with the positioning using data or gps. I believe your stating that you should turn data off for this purpose, and let the gps do it? however my phone was set to opposite. when I changed as you were suggesting and I clicked allow gps, I had a message come up saying to turn off to conserve battery? But your saying to turn on? And have data off? Also how do you get into htc facebook settings,i cant even find it!
dingdong3000 said:
I suggest you use switchpro widget. its like the power control widget but with more options to turn on/off things.
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yep i also use this widget
also use a free juice defender or paid ultimate juice that keeps turning on and off your 3g every now and then depending on how you schedule it, my phone with snowstorm weather widget updating every 80 minutes + 30s of 3g every 5 minutes to update mail etc and average usage lasts about 36 hours which is good enough for me
I leave my WI-FI on at home and suffer hardly any drain.
At work like today leave my Mobile network on down to 47% with just twitter usage!
Pathetic is the mobile signals drain.
MapleDouglas said:
I typically charged my Nokia N97 every other day or so, even though I used it frequently, and needless to say the HTC Desire doesn't have the same stamina. I was quite frustrated by it, and I started thinking of ways to save power. I came up with 19 tips, and I have actually noticed quite a difference by following them
19 Tips to Keep the HTC Desire Running a Little Longer
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Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
Dunbad said:
Ok, ive had another read of this and am now just even more confused! Are you saying to have gps turned off via settings and location aswell as data, or just having gps on? Are you saying that having gps selected via settings for the purpose of locating services uses les batty than via using data? Either way, it appeatss that the power control widget controls the gps the same as via settings. Right now ive deselected gps and the data location.
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I believe this is what I'm saying:
"To let your device learn your location via wireless network triangulation requires less battery than by using the GPS for this purpose. However, using both methods simultaneously is probably not a good idea from a battery point of view. The GPS can handle this task by itself, although it will get a fix on your location a little bit slower. Also, wireless network positioning will be used to collect anonymous Google location data, which will drain the battery further. You can change this option from Settings > Location > Use wireless networks. "
In other words, to only use wireless network positioning will supposedly use less battery than by only using the GPS, but using both methods will naturally use the most juice
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
jauhari said:
For me...
- Turn GPS On when I needed.
- Turn WiFi On when I needed
- Turn Bluetooth On when I needed
- Use 2G Network for standard internet, we use 3G if we want more speed such us watch video
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I can get get good days heavy usage (except games) from mine, I haven't tried the 2G thing yet.
Apparently it is the connectivity thing that kills the battery, but turning off 3G, doesn't that take all the fun out of it???
If you just use it as a phone then I reckon you can get a couple of days out of it, or so I've read...
Please help....
I have read many threads about this, but I don't understand any of them. My battery life is horrible, I am only using it for the occasional phone call, texting and checking my email. It's very frustrating because when I need to use it, the battery is dead (or almost dead and I can't use the camera).
I don't understand all the lingo on here about what version "this" and "that" everyone is using. Downloading certain apps to fix this.....
I'm not very techy and just use my phone for basic things.
PLEASE HELP!!!!
Suggestions:
Turn off bluetooth until you need it, then turn off when done.
Turn off GPS until you need it, then turn off when done.
Turn screen brightness to automatic or lowest setting (your preference).
Turn off 4G receiver if you are out of range or just don't have 4G coverage in your area.
Turn off synchronization if you don't care for email, Facebook, Twitter, etc updates. (Not really necessary if your update interval isn't set for short intervals.)
Utilize Wifi as much as possible, if that is an option available to you. BUT turn it off when you know you will be out of range for a good bit of time.
Toggle Airplane mode after each phone reboot. (Stupid bug)
Utilize the TouchWiz program manager (long press on home screen and under Samsung widgets).
Kill the OmaDrmConfigService process via Settings > Applications > Running Services. (This appears again with each phone reboot, unless you find a process killer application in the market.)
If you use Wifi a good bit, it's a good idea to set your Wifi sleep policy to "Never". You can access this via Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings: Press menu and select Advanced > Wifi Sleep Policy. Setting to never will not revert back to 3G when you turn off your phone's display as long as wifi is still turned on and within that connected wifi signal range.
If you still get **** battery life, then you can download Spare Parts or BatteryHistory from the market. BatteryHistory is a ripped out piece from Spare Parts, which is really all you need to diagnose your issue.
OR if you don't want to install anything you can key in via the dialer: *#4636*1111# to get to the same menu that both programs above display. (The menu is labeled Battery History.)
From another battery thread that pertains to the two aforementioned programs:
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What you do is when you notice that it's doubled on the top drop down box that says "other usage" click on that and change it to "partial wake usage" and anything listed under there is keeping your phone awake. See what is continually running.
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I hope the above helps you out.
Cheers.
Dont ask me to explain this just try it. Use astro and delete the android folder at the root of your sd card and reboot
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Did deleting the android folder work or anyone else? I'm trying to see how that can help but if it does good find.
I have no ideawhy but after flashing a few times testing themes on dk28 my battery tanks and my gallery gets slow. The album thumb folder inside there is what fixes the gallery so I usually delete it but I got lazy and deleted my whole folder since it regenerates on boot and my battery came back. Ben deleting it since lol but I flash a lot
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I have no ideawhy but after flashing a few times testing themes on dk28 my battery tanks and my gallery gets slow. The album thumb folder inside there is what fixes the gallery so I usually delete it but I got lazy and deleted my whole folder since it regenerates on boot and my battery came back. Ben deleting it since lol but I flash a lot
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Not certain how it helped your battery issue, but good to have that knowledge. I sifted through my folder and only saw cache files for what looked like thumbnails.
nikon120 said:
Not certain how it helped your battery issue, but good to have that knowledge. I sifted through my folder and only saw cache files for what looked like thumbnails.
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That's all that's in there that's why I said dont ask me why. I would have posted when I found it but I knew I would get flamed so either it works for you or it dont. It doesn't make since but it works for me
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http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-tips-tricks/245915-epic-4g-battery-life-extension-another-thread.html
Try this:
-Toggle airplane mode every time you reboot. You probably have a "time without signal" of over 50% if you look in settings. Toggling airplane mode resets the radio and so it doesn't keep looking for signal unnecessarily which kills battery
-Gps on doesn't drain battery, only when its being used by an app
-Turn off background data and auto sync. If you don't have facebook/twitter widgets or care about email push notifications then save some power and switch it off.
-Check for apps that aren't letting the phone sleep. Download "spare parts" and it should show you.
-I'm guessing you have the updated Facebook app with chat. I would suggest going offline in chat because it doesn't let the phone sleep and will drain your battery really fast.
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wtf is up with the horrible battery life of this phone? i got it and it is EXTREMELY worse than my Hero ever was. I have had this phone less than a week and I already want to return because of the battery life.
i dont use 4g at all, wifi is only enabled when i need to, gps is enabled but i figured i always had it enabled on the hero and was just fine, my screen brightness is always set at automatic brightness, i dont use bluetooth...
i am stumped.
please help before i destroy this thing
Jonesin 4 The Rush said:
wtf is up with the horrible battery life of this phone? i got it and it is EXTREMELY worse than my Hero ever was. I have had this phone less than a week and I already want to return because of the battery life.
i dont use 4g at all, wifi is only enabled when i need to, gps is enabled but i figured i always had it enabled on the hero and was just fine, my screen brightness is always set at automatic brightness, i dont use bluetooth...
i am stumped.
please help before i destroy this thing
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Lol gps kills it on this phone the roms greatly improve it
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dreamsforgotten said:
Lol gps kills it on this phone the roms greatly improve it
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thx for the advice.
i will try it without gps
also any good advice on any particular rom? i have only had this phone for 6 days and am trying to pinpoint a great rom to use.
My Epic looks pregnant but the battery lasts forever with the extended one
I am getting very poor battery life. Fully charged at 8am and dead by 5:30. Hardly even using it. I have a limited number of apps on, just a subset of those on my Nexus One and no rouge ones at all. Made a few calls, no web, a couple of gtalk posts and that is it.
See attached usage screen charge to dead and charging again!
The phone is useless like this... any ideas????
Are you in a building with poor reception? I noticed this issue when I left data on when my company moved buildings.
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I am getting very poor battery life. Fully charged at 8am and dead by 5:30. Hardly even using it. I have a limited number of apps on, just a subset of those on my Nexus One and no rouge ones at all. Made a few calls, no web, a couple of gtalk posts and that is it.
See attached usage screen charge to dead and charging again!
The phone is useless like this... any ideas????
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Is that solid blue bar from your WiFi being on all the time, or is that your awake bar on 100% of the time from a bad app?
That battery life looks atrocious. Show us the second screen to see the "awake" times.
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Is that solid blue bar from your WiFi being on all the time, or is that your awake bar on 100% of the time from a bad app?
That battery life looks atrocious. Show us the second screen to see the "awake" times.
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The phone is now changed so, the history has gone! I'll do more screens tomorrow.
I am not sure what you mean by awake bar?
I keep wifi and bt on all the time, as I did on my old N1. I am in the same place in the day as I was with that and will have same reception, which is not bad.
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
Google Authenicator
Compass
ConnectBot
Currency Converter
ixMat Scanner
RealCalc
StopWatch
That's it, like I say a sub-set of those on my N1 and all solid apps.
I normally listen to mp3 on the N1, but have not had time on the Galaxy yet, so it;s getting less use.
moa77 said:
The phone is now changed so, the history has gone! I'll do more screens tomorrow.
I am not sure what you mean by awake bar?
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When clicking on the graph, there is a blue bar showing how often/when the phone is "awake", like in the screenshot I've attached.
I keep wifi and bt on all the time, as I did on my old N1. I am in the same place in the day as I was with that and will have same reception, which is not bad.
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do you keep mobile data turned on? if so, do you keep 3G turned on, or just 2G?
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
Google Authenicator
Compass
ConnectBot
Currency Converter
ixMat Scanner
RealCalc
StopWatch
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Get rid of the task killer!
Other than that, don't see anything crazy... This battery life is really strange. When your screen is using less power than the 'Android OS' it shows you're really not using the phone much, but the phone is still tanking on battery life.
I'll post those screen shots for today when I get home tonight.
A few things I have noticed though. It seems to level off at midday, this is when i leave work and go home for an hour. While at home I will be on wifi. I do not connect to wifi at work.
Secondly, while at work I notice my data often changes between "3G" and "H", while the phone is in the same place. Probably 60% H and 40% "3G". It is not practical to turn "2G" only on, as I get the volume bug and the phone becomes unusable.
I am wondering if the data signal is draining it somehow? If so, how can I work around that? Like I said, I have a N1 before the GN which sat in the same place on my desk every day and had no battery drain issue at all.
I unplugged mine yesterday at 7.30am and it died at 9pm
I used the internet on/of all day made a couple of calls and about 50 texts, screen on time was about 4 hours.
Today i've used it in a similar manner and as of now (3pm uk) 7 and a half hours in its on 57%
The battery in this thing is better than my desire, granted, not much in it but it will easily get a normal user from one sleep to another
Stret
moa77 said:
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
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No, it's strange you have a task killer on Ice Cream Sandwich. WTF? This isn't Eclair. Get rid of the damn task killer.
moa77 said:
A few things I have noticed though. It seems to level off at midday, this is when i leave work and go home for an hour. While at home I will be on wifi. I do not connect to wifi at work.
Secondly, while at work I notice my data often changes between "3G" and "H", while the phone is in the same place. Probably 60% H and 40% "3G". It is not practical to turn "2G" only on, as I get the volume bug and the phone becomes unusable.
I am wondering if the data signal is draining it somehow? If so, how can I work around that? Like I said, I have a N1 before the GN which sat in the same place on my desk every day and had no battery drain issue at all.
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I'd say with 95% certainty it's just signal-hunting causing the drain. With my Fascinate at work, I'll easily lose 50% battery within a couple of hours, even if I'm not using it, while at home it'll last me between 15-20 hours before getting low. Easiest solution is to just buy another charger for work, and leave your phone plugged in whenever it's on your desk.
Don't like seeing android os at the top of that list! Does the nexus share some of the problems that have plagued the galaxy s line of phones, the android os bug!? :O
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copkay said:
I'd say with 95% certainty it's just signal-hunting causing the drain. With my Fascinate at work, I'll easily lose 50% battery within a couple of hours, even if I'm not using it, while at home it'll last me between 15-20 hours before getting low. Easiest solution is to just buy another charger for work, and leave your phone plugged in whenever it's on your desk.
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I kind of think you might be right. However, a phone that drains itself while doing absolutely nothing useful at all, is no use to me. I carry it about and am in and out the office though out the day. It would be unworkable to keep putting it on charge every time I come back in the room. I need a phone I can carry around for a working day without charging. My old N1 did. If this can't do it I'll need to get short of it and get something more practical. Seems ridiculous though.
Btw, task killer just got installed by default when I upgraded. All the apps that were on the N1 were installed when I signed in. Just never deleted it
Do you leave your Wifi on all the time even if you don't have Wifi signal available? Don't do that.
If you are too lazy to manage your data connection manually all the time, I highly suggest getting the app Juice Defender from the market. You can save the battery by setting a schedule for data connection and also it will disable your wifi automatically if your phone can't find a wifi spot it can connect to.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Do you leave your Wifi on all the time even if you don't have Wifi signal available? Don't do that.
If you are too lazy to manage your data connection manually all the time, I highly suggest getting the app Juice Defender from the market. You can save the battery by setting a schedule for data connection and also it will disable your wifi automatically if your phone can't find a wifi spot it can connect to.
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Yes, I leave wifi and bt on. I want to be able to do this. I am not asking for it to run for days. 1 full day is all, I have not issue charging every night.
I could look at the juice monitor, however, it does not seem too much to ask to be able to get 1 full day from it of average use. To me, it seems perfectly reasonable to expect the device to work for a full day with all services running.
Is there any tool than can be used to prove that the signal hunting is eating the power? Currently is seem to be in the big pot called "Android OS"??
Well, I'm not gonna defend the phone. Leaving all radio processes on, especially when there is no signal available, is well known to drain a lot of battery since the phone uses more power to search for available networks than when it has a stable connection to one. If you leave it on in a place with spotty or no signal it will make the problem worse.
Juice Defender (the basic one anyway) is free and pretty much manages the connections for you and basically extends your battery life with minimal effort. Give it a go for a couple if days.
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I strongly agree with chrono.
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+1 with Chrono.... Turn off Wifi completely if you are not using it.
if you are a new android user, you should also check the settings of the phone:
hit *#*#4636#*#* in the dialpad.
this will bring up a menu. there you should try phone (i think, my n1 got stolen a while ago). there, you scroll down and there is a menu to adjust the preferred network mode.
if it's set to CDMA preferred, it will search for a cdma single. you just adjust it (i think) to gsm only. google will help you a bit here.
So several people have started to notice that "AudioOut_1" wake lock might be polling our batteries unwillingly on our part. So I decided to go out and disable everything that could make sound except for the ringtones and notifications themselves since we all have to have that. This is what I came across...
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Settings > Sound
Uncheck "Touch sounds"
Uncheck "Screen lock sound"
Profit.
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Just went an hour without losing 1% battery after I did this.
Some people are claiming they only are losing 1% or less per hour now, just leaving the phone sitting not doing anything. So this may be the temporary fix for the phone being awake when it doesn't need to be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389214
I tend to turn those off anyway, just hadn't gotten around to it yet. I went ahead and did it now, along with vibrate on keypress. We'll see how it works!
I've had those off since I started with the phone and I have bad battery life...
MaxCarnage said:
I tend to turn those off anyway, just hadn't gotten around to it yet. I went ahead and did it now, along with vibrate on keypress. We'll see how it works!
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Yeah it sounds like a really small and ridiculous thing but it just works...
TabsAZ said:
I've had those off since I started with the phone and I have bad battery life...
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same still 5 hrs of stand by and its half way dead
Tried this and have had excellent idle battery life since I switched both off!
gabster21 said:
Tried this and have had excellent idle battery life since I switched both off!
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Seems to be 50/50 on this
Ive had those off and I am actually going to run my phone in vibrate only mode for a while and see what results from that.
this has little to no effect on battery life. Look at your Android OS battery consumption before, and after. It will be the same
Biggest solution I've found for battery life is disabling my GPS when I don't need it, and going to CDMA rather than LTE/CDMA. They're still there for me when I want them, but most of the time I don't need them.
Right now I've had the phone off the charger for 4 hours where it was topped off; I'm at 91% now, with moderate use (Google Currents for half an hour, about another 20 minutes total screen-on time doing other dinky things, three texts)
First of all, disabling GPS will have absolutely no affect on your battery life. The GPS is only enabled when an app calls for it, if you don't have Google Maps open, then your GPS won't be engaged.
And turning off the sounds will have little to no affect, it's the vibrating that kills your battery more. Turn off haptic feedback, turn off vibrating notifications, turn off vibrate on key press for the keyboard.
Oh, and staying connected to wifi is much easier on the battery than using data. On wifi your phone doesn't have to keep polling the cell towers for signal
KiNG OMaR said:
First of all, disabling GPS will have absolutely no affect on your battery life. The GPS is only enabled when an app calls for it, if you don't have Google Maps open, then your GPS won't be engaged.
And turning off the sounds will have little to no affect, it's the vibrating that kills your battery more. Turn off haptic feedback, turn off vibrating notifications, turn off vibrate on key press for the keyboard.
Oh, and staying connected to wifi is much easier on the battery than using data. On wifi your phone doesn't have to keep polling the cell towers for signal
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Turning off GPS works for me because I often use social apps (e.g. Facebook) that engage GPS for their 'check-in' features. It may be a minor thing, but having turned the GPS off, I've seen real results. *shrug*
Also, maybe a gimme for you smarties, but I disabled VZ Backup Assistant.
KiNG OMaR said:
First of all, disabling GPS will have absolutely no affect on your battery life. The GPS is only enabled when an app calls for it, if you don't have Google Maps open, then your GPS won't be engaged.
And turning off the sounds will have little to no affect, it's the vibrating that kills your battery more. Turn off haptic feedback, turn off vibrating notifications, turn off vibrate on key press for the keyboard.
Oh, and staying connected to wifi is much easier on the battery than using data. On wifi your phone doesn't have to keep polling the cell towers for signal
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Yes what you are saying has made sense in the past for Froyo and GB but we are having some sort of unknown wake lock and this seems to be the biggest one. Ever since I have disabled both of those features my AudioOut_1 wake lock hasn't awakened the phone ONE TIME.
Syn Ack said:
So several people have started to notice that "AudioOut_1" wake lock might be polling our batteries unwillingly on our part. So I decided to go out and disable everything that could make sound except for the ringtones and notifications themselves since we all have to have that. This is what I came across...
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Settings > Sound
Uncheck "Touch sounds"
Uncheck "Screen lock sound"
Profit.
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Just went an hour without losing 1% battery after I did this.
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I have those off already.
Problem is also the Android OS Keep awake time is high.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
Check yours.
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i turned these 2 settings off before i unplugged the phone.
im now on wifi and about an hour and a 15 minutes off the charger. android OS usage is like 24% and keep awake is like 35 minutes
^ Follow these Directions below
TabsAZ said:
I've had those off since I started with the phone and I have bad battery life...
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Install Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Get your phone down to 50% under normal usage(Not playing with the phone until 50%) just keeping it in your pocket, checking it occasionally..ect
Open Battery Battery Stats
On the Top Drop Down select
"Partial Wakelocks"
and on the Second
"Since Unplugged"
What are the top three? Anything near 1% is minimal and should be ignored for now.
thescreensavers said:
^ Follow these Directions below
Install Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Get your phone down to 50% under normal usage(Not playing with the phone until 50%) just keeping it in your pocket, checking it occasionally..ect
Open Battery Battery Stats
On the Top Drop Down select
"Partial Wakelocks"
and on the Second
"Since Unplugged"
What are the top three? Anything near 1% is minimal and should be ignored for now.
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There are so much stories. People check that already. No solid conclusion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
On one occasion, the tuna usb otg kernel process woke up for 7 hours, people got mipi_link keep awake high, etc.
Check the above threads.
If you have galaxy Nexus, check your Android OS Keep awake time... That must be high for no reason.
Nexus S users who got the official ICS from Google recently are experiencing the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396635
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I had a custom rom with dreadful battery switched back to the latest stock and have noticed the following: When you have good signal the screen on and awake seem to match up, i only lost 30% in TWO DAYS! then suddenly when i went out to the country side today i lost the remaining 70% in only a few hours seems that when the phone has low signal is is almost ALWAYS awake. I understand that in lower signal areas the phone tries harder to get signal but surly it shouldn't be awake like 90% of the time!
my top 1 was some sort of googlephotos sync service. i might turn off instant upload with google+.
that audioOut_1 was at like 1.2%, turned off these 2 settings before i unplugged from charger
Zoop57 said:
I had a custom rom with dreadful battery switched back to the latest stock and have noticed the following: When you have good signal the screen on and awake seem to match up, i only lost 30% in TWO DAYS! then suddenly when i went out to the country side today i lost the remaining 70% in only a few hours seems that when the phone has low signal is is almost ALWAYS awake. I understand that in lower signal areas the phone tries harder to get signal but surly it shouldn't be awake like 90% of the time!
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Yep that is another major contributing factor to terrible battery life. My phone will drain VERY slowly in good signal and die rapidly in bad signal.
Tasker
I found this cool app Tasker. It can do functions defined by you on meeting the circumstances you have defined. Like, I have a profile of enabling GPS on openining of maps and disabling afterwards.
Description:
Automate everything from settings to photos, SMS to speech ADC2 prize winner. Total Automation, from settings to SMS ADC2 finalist!
* Triggers: App, Time, Day, Location, Hard/Soft State, Event, Shortcut, Widget, Timer,Plugins
* Actions: 200+ built-in, plugin support
* Tasks: loops, variables, condition
* Scenes: design your own screen overlays,dialogs even simple apps
Play Store Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
Noob/Beginners Guide To Tasker:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
This is illegal, if you cant buy an app dont use it.
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
winwiz said:
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
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Sounds cool
But mine is too extra complicated to share, I now have over 30
But the most i like is nightmode,
It make brightness 10/255 and opens an app screenfilter
It makes brightness extremely low and this all happens from 12am-3 am
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
It doesnt waste battery that much, why dont.you try it and see battery stats
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
rickythefox said:
Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
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Was thinking the same. Any partial/wakelock issues caused by the program constantly assessing the environment. As it happens I am thinking of using the program to reduce battery drain and shutting down WiFi when out of range of home networks but if it's negated by the situation above it seems pointless for my needs.
Any one care to comment?
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Waiting for app sale. The price is slightly higher than what I'm prepared to spend, especially because there is a free alternative from Microsoft called on{X}: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/onx/
SunjinSak said:
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
Greedyfly said:
Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
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Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
SunjinSak said:
Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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Perfect sense. Thank you.
T__ said:
What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
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It will allow you to continue to use it. That sort of profile works as a toggle based on the time state so at 10am it will turn it off - but only at 10am. If you were to turn it on again straight away it would stay on until you either turn it off manually or another profile kicks in which is set to turn it off again. The same goes for anything else such as ringer/silent/vibrate, mobile data, GPS etc.
@Greedyfly: you're welcome
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You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
Indian_dil said:
You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
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+1
Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
Yeah Tasker does have a reasonably steep learning curve admittedly. By no means insurmountable to most though.
I suppose it depends on what/how you want to automate. Tasker is very powerful but not so simple. Llama is free and easier to use but no so powerful.
Both are good automation solutions. Locale is another one to check out.
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I've been using Tasker for the best part of a year now, awesome piece of software. Negligible impact on battery life and it's astoundingly powerful. A few examples of profiles I currently use - detects headphones/bluetooth headset and reads any text and who sent it, useful when cycling or out on the bike. Disables screen lock when at home, I use the phone as a control for my media centre so it remains unlocked at home and turns the screen on as soon as the handset is picked up, controls a variety of connection states according to location and time.
These are just scratching the surface. On top of this I've had direct dealings with the dev on a couple of occasions, genuinely nice bloke who does his damndest to solve problems as quickly as possible. All in all, this and Titanium backup are by far the two most useful pieces of software I've bought:good:
wind0zer said:
+1
Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
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But Tasker is better, even if its complicated
Thats the reason i gave a link to a noob friendly guide
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.
I love tasker even if it drains my battery(but it doesn't)
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.