When needed to replace the battery? - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

I have my device maybe some less than 2 years.. and the battery dont good...
I check in the settings and dont have any app that drain my battery.
But If I replace it my device dont waterproof again?

My battery life is also terrible. I believe it to be the latest updates as the first beta release of android 10 the battery life was amazing

So it because the updates?
bad company

I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.

I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.

Nightwind Hawk said:
I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.
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I think it was started before the android 10 update..
In this app I cant see the health... I need root..
It was recommend to buy new one and replace?
I think it was better to buy mid-phones anything because it was better with battery life for years

Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")

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Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")
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Didnt show.. I need root for this

I'd just change it.

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I'd just change it.
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But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.

It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe

So what to do?
maybe wipe?

dj.shauny.g said:
It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe
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I don't have a exy but I got a g9650 unlocked bl snap. Yesterday alone latest update I got 4.8 hours sot with 50% left at bed time so I can say the latest update is doing awesome on my 2 year old device with the orig battery

dj.shauny.g said:
I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.
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Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.

saarxee said:
So it because the updates?
bad company
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saarxee said:
But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.
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jamil aboudaher said:
Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.
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Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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saarxee said:
So what to do?
maybe wipe?
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.

dj.shauny.g said:
Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.
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Yea snapdragon is a bit better. And I agree on many things around the house. Still work good. Maybe try an older version of bit nber on your bootloader. An older update if you can

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Im concerned..Please Help

Hey guys...im thinking of buying this awesome phone but there is one concern which is the battery life of this phone, i have searched many places, read many reviews, all were mixed. So i decided to open a thread here and ask the actual users of this phone about the battery.
please report how many hours you get wth a single charge and what activities you perform..
im not a very heavy user, but use my wifi from time to time, dont use 3g at ALL, one hour of games. mostly browsing stuff, checking mails,twitter,gplus,news and all.
sorry for making a new thread for this
Thanks in advance
You can't measure battery like that, each user has a unique way of using their phone.
With the usage you describe it will last you until you're back at a charger, at least 12 hrs with 2-3 hrs screen time.
I would consider myself a heavy user. I watch about an hour of video every day via YouTube and have wifi and data always enabled. I do have to say I run a custom rom and kernel and that has significantly improved battery life since I bought it. I usually finish a days use with about 20-40% before charging again. It's hard to say since everyone uses their phones very differently, but compared to other android phones I have owned this is by no means a battery whore (any more).
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Battery life for me is worse than any Android device I've ever owned (see my signature), by far, even with the same amount of usage.
Best ever was my UV/UC Nexus One. I miss that metallic masterpiece.
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I would consider myself a heavy user. I watch about an hour of video every day via YouTube and have wifi and data always enabled. I do have to say I run a custom rom and kernel and that has significantly improved battery life since I bought it. I usually finish a days use with about 20-40% before charging again. It's hard to say since everyone uses their phones very differently, but compared to other android phones I have owned this is by no means a battery whore (any more).
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What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
Vangelis13 said:
You can't measure battery like that, each user has a unique way of using their phone.
With the usage you describe it will last you until you're back at a charger, at least 12 hrs with 2-3 hrs screen time.
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i know we cant measure the battery life like that, and its not my first android devices, i have used htc wildfire, and gakaxy i9003.
i was asking compared to others is the battery satisfying ?
You're looking at 3-4 hours of screen on time per day on average.
I've had it last for almost 3 days (very minimal use) or 6 hours (very heavy use, 5hrs 16mins screen on time)
Depends how you use it.
And to ryjabo, the battery life in this is better than the nexus s. Definitely.
The GSM version gets very good battery, especially if you are not a heavy user. The Verizon sprint version gets bad battery. I go 8 hours and have 70% left with 1 hour display time. This phone idles very very well. On wifi all day is even better.
mitchell4500 said:
What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
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Well for starters I have a gsm phone, not lte and I'm sure that helps a lot with battery. Apart from that I'm on cm9s latest build with Francos latest nightly.
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I have the Google Play GSM version, rooted but with no special power tweaks. Yesterday I didn't use it very heavily (< 1 hour screen on), and last night I had 82% remaining after 16.5 hours. That was with wi-fi on all day. It definitely seems like the screen is the most power-hungry component, and it typically accounts for about 50% of my battery usage.
Ryjabo said:
Battery life for me is worse than any Android device I've ever owned (see my signature), by far, even with the same amount of usage.
Best ever was my UV/UC Nexus One. I miss that metallic masterpiece.
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Worse than the EPIC 4G??????? Wow.
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moizsami said:
Hey guys...im thinking of buying this awesome phone but there is one concern which is the battery life of this phone, i have searched many places, read many reviews, all were mixed. So i decided to open a thread here and ask the actual users of this phone about the battery.
please report how many hours you get wth a single charge and what activities you perform..
im not a very heavy user, but use my wifi from time to time, dont use 3g at ALL, one hour of games. mostly browsing stuff, checking mails,twitter,gplus,news and all.
sorry for making a new thread for this
Thanks in advance
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You should expect mixed reviews for this phone. This phone targets developers. Developers know all the intricates of a device and benchmark it against other hardware.
The Gnex is on par with the Photon 4G and has a better battery life than the EPIC 4G. (for me). I stick to stock roms and only change the kernel.
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What are you using. Iv installed a few roms and kernels and my battery is still horrible. With little use too! Im in school all day where I get a perfect 4g signal. Yet the phone still drains battery.
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Yeah the fact that you're even connected to 4g all day is probably why your battery life sucks. I always stay on 3g when im not on WiFi unless i need to download something or do some browsing or what not.
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If this its not good /great i dont know what it is
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[Q] How is battery life compared to G3? (g3 owner willing to buy g4)

So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
i had G3 and recently i bought G4 not much difference but lets say the G4 win with alittle bit but from my opinion i didnt see abig difference
advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
rafaelw said:
So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
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Tell us how much sot/run time you get from the G3 ?
and which variant is it ? 2GB or 3GB RAM.
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dork997 said:
advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
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Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
One Twelve said:
Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
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Don't feed the troll :good:
i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
The Endurance rating worked out to 54 hours, 9 hours less than the G3. The issue was with the high standby power draw, which puts a strain on the battery even when you're not using the phone. The other disappointment was the talk time, which couldn't reach 17 hours - an 8 hour drop from the G3.
We reran the tests several times and kept getting the same results.
Anyway, the web browsing time was pretty good - nothing spectacular, but good. It also marks the only improvement since the G3 as the video playback is below average for the flagship class.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-review-1254p3.php
imeem said:
i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
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Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
One Twelve said:
Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
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ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
imeem said:
ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
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yes because this is a difficult subject so keep a note when he talks of the sot's under different conditions.
Had to watch it a couple of times but i got it in the end. See the comments too.
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
There is no difference between G3 and G4 for battery life max i can get 4 and half hours for battery life and minimum only almost 3 hours SOT. Maybe if next LG device is like this battery life i need to change to another brand
Yeah my experience in two days....Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)...... And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly. There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
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Yeah my experience in two days....
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How long have you had the G4 ?
Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)......
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Really ? how many people are affected ? just one i saw in this thread. So the update did not cause battery problems. v10c is for euro h815.
How much sot & runtime did you get before the update ?
How much sot & runtime did you get after the update ?
figures.
And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly.
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Go to the service centre and replace them.
There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....
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Read this
ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
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lol, i can find this kind of comment for any phone on this board
many times its because people are interested in some other phone that came out after.
Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected. If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life. So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected.
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heh we're still trying to get you to tell us what your issue is. Any wants to follow the fun discussion see here.
If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life.
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Those phones have other issues. So you trade one set of pros for another set of cons
There is no perfect device. You learn to manage what you got.
So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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3h sot, lots of complaining, 4h+Sot less complaining or it goes silent. Seen this a few times now. That is what surprised me. Until you realise that people find 8h run time too short but once it gets into 12-14h+ its ok. Its the standby time that is more important.
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Pfeffernuss said:
Don't feed the troll :good:
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The motives are interesting. want to know what dork is upto, he just smashed his phone :silly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/help-urgent-t3224403
a firmware downgrade gone wrong and no service centre available.
One Twelve said:
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
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I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range before i have to run to the charger. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
imeem said:
I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
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Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
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How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top. that extra hour means 2-4h longer run time.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
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Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
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Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
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Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
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Then you can expect a 4-5h sot/12-14h run time with normal use. Good enough ?
web browsing won't eat up much battery, its push notifications and constant syncs over weak signal that do it faster.
IMO the g3 was garbage...i had 2 that had emmc failures and all 3 i had overheating issues...battery sucked...only pro was there was a good bit of development...i love my g4...only device i miss over my g4 is my g2...battery life is great with minimal tweaks and greenify...my last run was 5 h 2m sot and 47.5 standby...h81110n

How is battery life on your Pixel XL? (Oreo 8.1.0)

I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Same thoughts, except its not Oreo which has degraded the backup, but 8.1 specifically which totally ****ed it up.
liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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Tell that to Apple.
Shawn haz root said:
Tell that to Apple.
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Apple's reasoning of decreasing performance was to increase device battery longevity, not to increase sales of their next product. In fact, a dead battery which renders a phone unuseable is more likely going to present the idea of purchasing a new device versus someone who barely notices a slowdown in opening an app. I think it's more important to give a customer the option of calling emergency services through a slowdown phone versus a dead phone.
Their idea is great but implementation and transparency could have been better.
As a company, you don't give yourself premium status if you sell inferior products that easily get outdated.
TLDR: Apple products age very well, yet they still are able to empty shelves with their latest products.
I got my Pixel XL from Google as a replacement for a Nexus 6P last September. It came with Oreo 8.0.0* and I was thrilled with the battery life, especially after the dismal battery life of the 6P. After I updated to 8.1.0 in December, my battery now is at 30% at the end of an average day, instead of 50% with 8.0.0. I'm thinking of flashing back to the last versions of 8.0.0 and taking my chances with not having the security updates.
Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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I think that google tried to put too many features at once WITHOUT tweaking the features for battery. They are not like apple and if they are, they are a lot less strict with it. I applied some root tweaks and got about 6 hrs of SOT, I am having the same problem after the update, but history says that google's releases slowly patch underlying issues
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Did any of you jokers even read what he said? He said 12 minutes SOT equals 4% battery. That's 5 hours SOT, in his estimation.
It is very likely that 4% battery in his statement is really 3% battery because his battery ticked down to a lower percent just after he noted the reading.
Now, 3% battery in 12 minutes of SOT is very normal for an optimized Pixel XL usage and medium screen brightness. That literally means 6 hours and 40 minutes of SOT. That is what anyone can get without going to extremes with optimizing battery usage.
The best I have ever gotten with Pixel XL was 6 minutes per 1% of battery or 10 hours SOT and that is just playing youtube videos on wifi with lowest brightness and nothing running in background.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
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Let us believe what we choose to, you don't need to worry about our beliefs LoL. This belief didn't come from some children story book either, but based on what's been happening of late, a judgement based on real life results.
Why would someone keep buying a company's products? That's not a bright question really, cause even after LG's G3, G4, G5, N5X etc. phones which all had hardware problems people still bought their next releases, and that's just one example out of many. I myself even after knowing, complaining that Google once ****ed up the battery backup of Pixel 2016s deliberately will look into their Pixel 3 whenever it releases, simply because money doesn't matter to me that much, and I'm not even anywhere near that rich.
That battery life sounds fine tbh.
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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8 hours SoT with 8.1, seems like a day dream for me.
My battery backup remains same, that is poor, still getting 4-5 hours SoT. A full hour less than what I used to get with 8.0. Device is around 8 months old.
Chance Ill said:
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you please tell us which custom ROM and kernel did you flash? Also, what the health of your battery on AccuBattery? Thank You.
My Battery Life
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I have btw 6:30/7:30 hs of SoT and a day I had 8hs of SoT with netflix and 4g on and wifi too

Worst battery on oneui 2 beta

Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
upgradedfazeel said:
Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Well what do you expect from a BETA update? You should've just waited for the stable release.
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It is call beta.
We almost need a sticky for everytime a beta is released.
Downloading a beta and then being surprised that it isnt running perfect means you probably shouldn't be on it.
It's like taking an experimental drug and being surprised at unforeseen side effects.
Edit: Then again it's not like anyone would read it.
I don't agree with you and I don't know how you measure it since is not really clear if the new battery usage graph changes something. In my personal daily usage I've been surprised some days, getting more than 6 hours of screen in 30 hours since plugged. Most was on wifi, radio signal influence a lot specially if it's weak.
Anyway I noticed some drains that are typical of samsung software, some days just for using spotify for 2 hours on the buds the phone would lose 30% while others 5% checking it some times
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Oh well, over 1 day today..
Battery life is really better with the new update. They've done it well this time

Battery life

Battery life seems to be like a year old phone for me, it's terrible. I have the 5g version. Nit on 5g yet but it doesn't seem very good. Any tips
How new/old is your device? Also exynos or snap?
I've got a 2 day old exynos and I'm pretty impressed, seem to be getting over 7-8hrs sot.
A month or so old
sstanton86 said:
How new/old is your device? Also exynos or snap?
I've got a 2 day old exynos and I'm pretty impressed, seem to be getting over 7-8hrs sot.
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Yeah its UK so probably Exynos and a month or so old. Any settings i could try to change?
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Yeah its UK so probably Exynos and a month or so old. Any settings i could try to change?
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It's funny because when I wrote my initial reply it did seem impressive. But as the days go by, its perhaps a bit less impressive! Seems to be draining a bit quicker. Probably got more like 5hrs sot today, although that's not bad I think I just expected more.
I do recall with my s10 plus it was similar then after a week or 2 battery optimizations kicked in and it seemed really good.
I can't think of any specific settings. Main things I've done are put social media apps to not background sync, dark mode all the time and adaptive power saving.
Yeah battery life is not this phone’s strong suit. I barely make it through the day with every battery saving possibilities activated.
I did get a used 3 month old for an incredible price so can't complain more. Cheers!

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