How is battery life on your Pixel XL? (Oreo 8.1.0) - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks

jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot

liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Same thoughts, except its not Oreo which has degraded the backup, but 8.1 specifically which totally ****ed it up.

liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.

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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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Tell that to Apple.

Shawn haz root said:
Tell that to Apple.
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Apple's reasoning of decreasing performance was to increase device battery longevity, not to increase sales of their next product. In fact, a dead battery which renders a phone unuseable is more likely going to present the idea of purchasing a new device versus someone who barely notices a slowdown in opening an app. I think it's more important to give a customer the option of calling emergency services through a slowdown phone versus a dead phone.
Their idea is great but implementation and transparency could have been better.
As a company, you don't give yourself premium status if you sell inferior products that easily get outdated.
TLDR: Apple products age very well, yet they still are able to empty shelves with their latest products.

I got my Pixel XL from Google as a replacement for a Nexus 6P last September. It came with Oreo 8.0.0* and I was thrilled with the battery life, especially after the dismal battery life of the 6P. After I updated to 8.1.0 in December, my battery now is at 30% at the end of an average day, instead of 50% with 8.0.0. I'm thinking of flashing back to the last versions of 8.0.0 and taking my chances with not having the security updates.
Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?

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Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.

ithehappy said:
LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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I think that google tried to put too many features at once WITHOUT tweaking the features for battery. They are not like apple and if they are, they are a lot less strict with it. I applied some root tweaks and got about 6 hrs of SOT, I am having the same problem after the update, but history says that google's releases slowly patch underlying issues

ithehappy said:
LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?

In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform

jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Did any of you jokers even read what he said? He said 12 minutes SOT equals 4% battery. That's 5 hours SOT, in his estimation.
It is very likely that 4% battery in his statement is really 3% battery because his battery ticked down to a lower percent just after he noted the reading.
Now, 3% battery in 12 minutes of SOT is very normal for an optimized Pixel XL usage and medium screen brightness. That literally means 6 hours and 40 minutes of SOT. That is what anyone can get without going to extremes with optimizing battery usage.
The best I have ever gotten with Pixel XL was 6 minutes per 1% of battery or 10 hours SOT and that is just playing youtube videos on wifi with lowest brightness and nothing running in background.

richii0207 said:
Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
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Let us believe what we choose to, you don't need to worry about our beliefs LoL. This belief didn't come from some children story book either, but based on what's been happening of late, a judgement based on real life results.
Why would someone keep buying a company's products? That's not a bright question really, cause even after LG's G3, G4, G5, N5X etc. phones which all had hardware problems people still bought their next releases, and that's just one example out of many. I myself even after knowing, complaining that Google once ****ed up the battery backup of Pixel 2016s deliberately will look into their Pixel 3 whenever it releases, simply because money doesn't matter to me that much, and I'm not even anywhere near that rich.

That battery life sounds fine tbh.

Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.

wazza1991 said:
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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See the screenshot

I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.

fiverings said:
I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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8 hours SoT with 8.1, seems like a day dream for me.
My battery backup remains same, that is poor, still getting 4-5 hours SoT. A full hour less than what I used to get with 8.0. Device is around 8 months old.

Chance Ill said:
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you please tell us which custom ROM and kernel did you flash? Also, what the health of your battery on AccuBattery? Thank You.

My Battery Life
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I have btw 6:30/7:30 hs of SoT and a day I had 8hs of SoT with netflix and 4g on and wifi too

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Just trade p20 pro for this and a laptop, need advice on battery replacement

Looks like my xl 2 is in need of a battery, she drains from 100--->80 in the first hour I'm home. I've found many online but thought I would ask the community if anyone has found a reputable dealer for replacement batteries. I've had issue with past iPhone batteries being less than stellar.
Also ****ing love this phone, couldn't have gotten rid of my P20 fast enough!
Try rooting and using Flash Kernel. Insane battery life.
Gravol said:
Looks like my xl 2 is in need of a battery, she drains from 100--->80 in the first hour I'm home. I've found many online but thought I would ask the community if anyone has found a reputable dealer for replacement batteries. I've had issue with past iPhone batteries being less than stellar.
Also ****ing love this phone, couldn't have gotten rid of my P20 fast enough!
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What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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Just wasn't a fan of the stock EMUI and then there wasn't much in the world of roms or kernels. I mean project treble was nice, I loved the havoc rom as it ran smooth and had some nice customization. It just didnt have the notch figured out yet or some other P20 pro specifics fingerprint etc. I wasn't blown away by the battery by any stretch even since, day one. The camera was however quite impressive, the night mode especially and great portraits. Soon as I got my hands on this pixel though, fell in love and not sure why it just, its just a nice device haha.
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Try rooting and using Flash Kernel. Insane battery life.
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Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)
Gravol said:
Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)
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You're Pixel 2XL can't be a year plus old. They we're announced October 4th of last year, so they weren't available even a year ago.
dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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You're Pixel 2XL can't be a year plus old. They we're announced October 4th of last year, so they weren't available even a year ago.
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Oh well then lol, I guess I'm the idiot!
Just seems weird the battery drain is incredible. Maybe my expectations are simply just high, either way very pleased with the device
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Oh well then lol, I guess I'm the idiot!
Just seems weird the battery drain is incredible. Maybe my expectations are simply just high, either way very pleased with the device
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You're not an idiot. Well, I don't know I've never met you IRL. You could be, I guess, LOL.
Seriously, though, not doubting your bad battery life. It's likely a rogue app. Or maybe really poor radio signal so your phone is constantly polling for a stronger signal.
You could always try running in safe mode, which disables all 3rd party apps. If battery life improves, then you know it's an app causing the drain.
If that doesn't work, try running in airplane mode. This will always increase battery life, but if it takes care of your abnormal drain, then you know it's related to signal strength.
All else fails, do a factory reset, don't restore anything, and run it for a while with no 3rd party apps.
If that fails to fix it, it could simply be a hardware issue. Its an electronic device. They fail and do funky things sometimes. You could always call Google and see if they will RMA it for a bad battery. Or if you have a UBreakIFix store near you, go talk to them. They are a Google partner and the one here in town is very knowledgeable.
dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
You're not an idiot. Well, I don't know I've never met you IRL. You could be, I guess, LOL.
Seriously, though, not doubting your bad battery life. It's likely a rogue app. Or maybe really poor radio signal so your phone is constantly polling for a stronger signal.
You could always try running in safe mode, which disables all 3rd party apps. If battery life improves, then you know it's an app causing the drain.
If that doesn't work, try running in airplane mode. This will always increase battery life, but if it takes care of your abnormal drain, then you know it's related to signal strength.
All else fails, do a factory reset, don't restore anything, and run it for a while with no 3rd party apps.
If that fails to fix it, it could simply be a hardware issue. Its an electronic device. They fail and do funky things sometimes. You could always call Google and see if they will RMA it for a bad battery. Or if you have a UBreakIFix store near you, go talk to them. They are a Google partner and the one here in town is very knowledgeable.
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Haha that's awesome. That's actually quite useful information though I really appreciate that! I will try out those, I'm actually not running much aside from stock but I'll see what happens. Thanks again!
Gravol said:
Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)
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The battery life on the Pixel 2 XL should be better than that to be honest. Especially if you have Android Pie. Let me know how it goes? What is your SOT?
dieselhazza said:
The battery life on the Pixel 2 XL should be better than that to be honest. Especially if you have Android Pie. Let me know how it goes? What is your SOT?
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1 hour 35 minutes so far and down to 73%
Gravol said:
1 hour 35 minutes so far and down to 73%
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On my Pixel 2 XL i get about 2.5 hrs SOT with 70% remaining.
Heres a screenshot I guess that's not awful it's just seems like heavy drain when using it. I think I'm just being picky
I have replaced my 2xl display because it was shattered. I tried to replicate the original waterproofing sealing by using the black liquid adhesive.
That looks just about right. Both "full charge lasts about" and the SOT. At least that's what I get typically with my use.
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Heres a screenshot I guess that's not awful it's just seems like heavy drain when using it. I think I'm just being picky
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Are you happy with Android 10 on this phone?

I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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I like 10...No issues other then bluetooth connectivity occasionally acts up when connecting to my vehicle and running Pandora. I never cared for 9 and went back to 8.1 on my PH-1 until a stable version of 10 is available.
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I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie. Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
Hello,
I have the device since ~ two months. I don't have any special complaint...
Battery is rather good for the moment. September version was quite buggy..!
I think the october release improved the experience a lot...
Actually stock October image + Root + EX Kernel.
Cheers...
Sébastien.
I only have two issues, and both aren't deal breakers, but they are concerning a bit. The first is random reboots like once a week. It doesn't matter what I'm doing as it just decides to reboot. The other is a bit more concerning as it happened twice since 10 was officially released. Again it doesn't matter what I'm doing, and the screen will go black, and become unresponsive. I have to force a manual reboot, and when it tried to boot the splash screen flashes several times, and then it boots into recovery with a message "Could not load Android OS. You can try again, or do a factory resest.". I selected "Try Again", and it booted normally, but I don't like risking that. Other than those two issue it's been super smooth, and very snappy. I have no complaints about performance at all when it's working normally.
Thank you for the responses. I'll try to wipe and reinstall to see if that helps.
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MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Glad you've mentioned the podcast problem. Same here. Either stops randomly and when going back in then it's back to the beginning. Are you using Google Podcast app?
Yes, that app has been the most frustrating. Although, iheart has given me the same problem. Nothing like listening to a 4 hour episode of Hardcore History and then losing where I was just for checking how bad I'm doing in fantasy football. Double kick in the nuts...
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I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
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november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
Rafsxd said:
I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
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Have you tried Nov update?
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Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Did you both get the phone at launch?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Did you both get the phone at launch?
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Not for me no. I got the phone back in June.
The battery life on P3XL is garbage. The P3XL is 2 months old. I have a 2 year P2XL with the exact same setup and the exact same apps. The battery life on P2XL is at least 50% better, even though it has been used for 2 years.
With identical usage, the P3XL drains battery twice as fast as P2XL. I've compared multiple scenarios with identical usage on both phones.
So no amount of Vodoo magic will fix the battery in P3XL. It's just terrible. My hypothesis is the battery temperature. I have an app that measures battery temperature and the P3XL seems to have a similar problem as P1XL - it runs WARM.
The P2XL, however runs much cooler in temperature So for ex, browsing Chrome and checking email, the P3XL might be at 35-37 Celsius, but the P2XL will be at less than 25 Celsius in exact same conditions.
Charging the P3XL also make it reach sometimes 40 Celsius, playing game over 45 Celsius. The P2XL almost never goes over 30 Celsius even on heavy load.
The battery in P3XL also drains very quickly with screen usage. I think the phone suffers from poor optimization, bad thermals, overheating and a battery hungry screen.
I'm always stressed out when being out without a charger for the P3XL. With the P2XL - it's never been a problem. I only charge it after 2 days.
to me, Android 10 has been the worst update on the Pixel 3 XL.
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
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This is exactly how I feel. Sad Google decided to lock-down recovery, but it was just a matter of time. Wouldn't be surprised if this is just another step towards eventually removing us from obtaining root. (hope not)
But other than that, I love Android 10.. I love dark mode, bluetooth has been stable for me and stock rom with EX kernel has been great. But that's also been the combo I've had on my phone for years dating back to the Nexus 6P.
Just leaving this here
And I just want a customisable navbar.
Is it so hard Google?

Worst battery on oneui 2 beta

Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Well what do you expect from a BETA update? You should've just waited for the stable release.
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It is call beta.
We almost need a sticky for everytime a beta is released.
Downloading a beta and then being surprised that it isnt running perfect means you probably shouldn't be on it.
It's like taking an experimental drug and being surprised at unforeseen side effects.
Edit: Then again it's not like anyone would read it.
I don't agree with you and I don't know how you measure it since is not really clear if the new battery usage graph changes something. In my personal daily usage I've been surprised some days, getting more than 6 hours of screen in 30 hours since plugged. Most was on wifi, radio signal influence a lot specially if it's weak.
Anyway I noticed some drains that are typical of samsung software, some days just for using spotify for 2 hours on the buds the phone would lose 30% while others 5% checking it some times
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
gloege said:
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
BigE said:
Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Oh well, over 1 day today..
Battery life is really better with the new update. They've done it well this time

When needed to replace the battery?

I have my device maybe some less than 2 years.. and the battery dont good...
I check in the settings and dont have any app that drain my battery.
But If I replace it my device dont waterproof again?
My battery life is also terrible. I believe it to be the latest updates as the first beta release of android 10 the battery life was amazing
So it because the updates?
bad company
I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.
I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.
Nightwind Hawk said:
I did not notice any drastic change in battery life after the Android 10 upgrade. However, you've likely had the phone for around 2 years - probably charging it every day. These types of batteries start to degrade after ~500 charge cycles.
Use this app as a way to understand your battery's health: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/8vgp76/how_has_your_s99_fared_so_far_in_terms_of_battery/
You may want to consider having the battery changed. Samsung Experience stores charge $50 for the new battery (including installation), and most other Samsung certified repair shops (in the US) seem to charge around that price as well.
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I think it was started before the android 10 update..
In this app I cant see the health... I need root..
It was recommend to buy new one and replace?
I think it was better to buy mid-phones anything because it was better with battery life for years
Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")
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Hmm.. I see that the health indicator (which was an estimate I suppose) is no longer listed in the app. How many Battery Discharge Cycles do you have listed? (listed under "Personal")
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Didnt show.. I need root for this
I'd just change it.
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I'd just change it.
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But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.
It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe
So what to do?
maybe wipe?
dj.shauny.g said:
It seems to be the exynos versions with the problem what i can gather. I am in the u.k with exynos. Snapdragon chips are much better in these devices so i am led to believe
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I don't have a exy but I got a g9650 unlocked bl snap. Yesterday alone latest update I got 4.8 hours sot with 50% left at bed time so I can say the latest update is doing awesome on my 2 year old device with the orig battery
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I believe so. They make battery life bad so you upgrade to a new phone. I have 5 year old iphones with better battery life than s9. Terrible company.
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Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.
saarxee said:
So it because the updates?
bad company
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saarxee said:
But It doesnt waterproof again.
and the glass back can be broken.
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jamil aboudaher said:
Of course you're joking. My friend's iPhone 6 can't even last for 2 hours !
My Exynos S9's battery life isn't great either (I've been using it for 2 years), it's just on par with iPhone X's battery life. I still get 8 to 10 hours of use with 3 hours of screen on time which isn't terrible. I should tell you that I use my phone too much when it's charging and sometimes I use it heavily, and all of this leads to heating which has a big impact on battery life, so your battery should last more if you aren't a heavy user.
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Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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So what to do?
maybe wipe?
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.
dj.shauny.g said:
Am not actually joking. I have an iphone 7 in my household which lasts alot longer than my s9.
I get around 2-3 hours on time which is the same as you which i believe is actually terrible. When i first bought this phone i could play on it for hours on end and it would still last till the end of the day. Now i have to avoid going on it as i know it will kill the battery after 2-3 hours. This was brilliant on android oreo when i first bought the phone, ever since its first update it has been ridiculous. I signed up to beta test android 10 and the first ever beta that was released the battery life was amazing. It was like it was brand new again and i could use it all day long without it killing the battery. As they kept the updates coming it kept getting worse until they released the stable version and its been terrible again ever since.
I believe it to be software related as some batteries can last a lifetime, i have lots of chargeable items around the house which i have had for years and they are still as good as they where when i first bought them. I also believe the exynos is worse than the snapdragon. I don't know why but maybe someone will.
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It is an option, but i would only be inclined to do this if somebody can confirm it will improve. I however doubt it will. I found changing the power setting from high performance to optimised mode made the battery life a bit better, however it defeats the object of having an s9 and not running at a setting it is designed to.
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Yea snapdragon is a bit better. And I agree on many things around the house. Still work good. Maybe try an older version of bit nber on your bootloader. An older update if you can

Why did we abandon our P4 and P4XL?

I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?
I think maybe it's because it's still supported, and android 13 was launch mast month, so maybe as there isn't a very high demand, and it has been launch recently, devs didn't made the android 13 roms.
I would like to create them but I am working in getting a method to unlock the bootloader of a carrier-locked Pixel.
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I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?
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hows your battery and SoT in A13?
kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
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My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means
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My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means
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SoT means Screen On time, which is how many hours you really use the phone with the screen ont; you can find more on the battery configuration or with GSAM for example.
kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
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Well it's definitely better I've been using soli now that I have a new battery and the battery life has been about the same if I'm comparing it to 6 months before I had to rma it with soli disabled. I've been putting it through its rounds as a doordash driver. It doesn't die as quickly it runs a lot better. Android 11 was the worst I felt like when 12 came out I was robbed a whole year of performance before and 13 is even better I just want there to be security updates.

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