Kindly don't leave samsung A71 users alone.we have to much hope and faith that the developers will be developing their ROMS for this device too.
Thanks
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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Lol !
So what ? this device won't get root or even twrp ??
Do you mean that ?
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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I don't think this is true and I believe there's nothing wrong with 730 / 730G. You say that there are no roms or development WHATSOEVER for other devices running the same SoC, take a look over Redmi K20 / Xiaomi Mi 9T sub-forum here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/development. I can see many roms available already so neither the 730 is bad nor the devices running on top of it are left in the dust. It is a matter of market interest and let's be honest, many mid-range devices exist that give better value for money than Galaxy A71 and it happens that most of them run other SoC and therefore, 730 may not get enough attention and that's all.
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- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
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I'm sorry but this is just BS. Here's what Qualcomm says about it:
The Snapdragon 730 serves up powerful performance and impressive battery life. It’s built to handle some of the most sophisticated on-device interactions, fueled by an 8nm process for extreme power efficiency in a small size.
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It is not that Qualcomm advertising their SoC, the better the technology (8nm), the more power-efficiency the SoC is. If you still insist on you opinion, please share some references that backs your claim up.
I believe the best statement to say here already said by the OP in the topic title: we want fully developers support to this device. It is not that developers hate 730 or that it is bad but they don't find enough reasons to buy devices with 730 because other better phones (overall) with the same price (or more affordable phones with similar performance but different SoC) exist.
omar20115 said:
Kindly don't leave samsung A71 users alone.we have to much hope and faith that the developers will be developing their ROMS for this device too.
Thanks
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XDAFan
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Lol !
So what ? this device won't get root or even twrp ??
Do you mean that ?
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Twrp is pretty useless with nothing to flash with it
Root and twrpwould be superb.
Not useless, as you can flash mods, like screen bootlogo to hide boot locker warning for example.
I got rid of the s10 plus and got an A71.
Could not justify the pricetag and performance compared to the a71.
So sold on, and half of that money bought me the a71, happ days
Aslong as can root which is main thing, do some customisation's, i'm happy
I'd be willing to do a custom ROM release for the A71 if I knew where to start, I'm a developer but never worked on Android "ROMs" before.
My goal would be a clean stable version of the Stock OS with the Google/Pixel apps installed and the Samsung crud removed.
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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Check out poco x2/redmi k30 for more eye opening information....
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- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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That's a real shame. Even debloated original rom would be great.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
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Two days of normal usage (12-14h SOT) is not that bad. No gaming though.
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I'd be willing to do a custom ROM release for the A71 if I knew where to start, I'm a developer but never worked on Android "ROMs" before.
My goal would be a clean stable version of the Stock OS with the Google/Pixel apps installed and the Samsung crud removed.
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You could maybe do something with gsi's? Optimise it for our device? Or maybe this tutorial can help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/guide-how-to-build-unsupported-rom-t3844972
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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wtf man haha just look at Realme X2, Xiaomi Mi 9T, Redmi K30...
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wtf man haha just look at Realme X2, Xiaomi Mi 9T, Redmi K30...
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Hey man, I didn't said you was wrong about that nor have I said that A71 has active developers right now. I just stated the fact that your affirmation that SD730(G) devices did not have ROMs or development was wrong. Just that. About the fact that A71 doesn't have ROMs or development, you're 100% right.
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Hey man, I didn't said you was wrong about that nor have I said that A71 has active developers right now. I just stated the fact that your affirmation that SD730(G) devices did not have ROMs or development was wrong. Just that. About the fact that A71 doesn't have ROMs or development, you're 100% right.
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Uguys want to change this about a71?
If yes, please search for a71 development group in telegram. Step by step, every one can contribute to start decelopment. It will b extremely hard since most samsung snapdragon bssed devices released in 2019 and after will face lot of issues in sources and bug fixing. This is exactly how a70 decelopment started. It is still in a developingvphase. But because of contributions from every one and some exceptional devs like grarak, xtutorials etc.. a70 has an almost workable source to start with.
Lets see if a71 ysers are just as keen as a70 users to bring custom development for this device.
Joining the telegram group would be a start. We can coordinate from there on.
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Considering the amount of publicity this phone has been getting, it's just a matter of time.
Once there's proper source code for a ROM to be developed, you'll see ROMs being developed.
As it stands, the device is brand new, I mean come on it came out in January.
If my previous phone (Nokia 7 Plus) had custom ROMs despite not being able to unlock the bootloader for free because Nokia wouldn't let you, I doubt this phone won't get any ROMs.
has anyone tried any treble roms with this device?
Was going to say, the amount of publicity this phone has got and still going is up there with main flagship phones.
It is a cracking phone for sure, and would love like many, to have custom roms and further support for it.
We have to be patient, if it happens, all good, if not, it is what it is.
I guess the only bad thing is that there is no way around of not tripping Knox, despite it being a Qualcomm phone and not an Exynos phone.
So if you have insurance and/or warranty, you can kiss those two good bye the minute you decide to tamper with the bootloader.
isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
SURPRISE!
Hi guys, I am developer from Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and interesting in development to this device.
Mine ideas for this device:
* Debloated stock - stock with trash app removed, added features and other optimizing.
* TWRP - rooting and flashing will be easier
* Custom ROMs - any description needed here?
And ofc we will try boot GSI (maybe sGSI too) for this device!
Stay tuned!
(1st debloated stock version will be evelible in few weeks)
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isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
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should boot
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brownah92 said:
isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
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Yeah, GSI should boot here.
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By the way, what do you guys think about making thread for this, so users will see something is happening, or this is too early?
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Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ?
i guess everyone is wating for the same...
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https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ��
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
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i guess everyone is wating for the same...
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
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Yes, someone is working on it rightnow, and according to the commits, we will have a CM 12.1 rom for Zenfone 2 soon :good:
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Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
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please..first rule of CM or XDA, never ask for ETA, and never ask or push developers to speed up their work or we will never get any of it..
just keep waiting and when the time has come, they will share it with us..just dont keep asking for ETA please.. and i hope that xda newcomer on zf2 forum must learn this word, NEVER ASK FOR ETA for any development..its a taboo here..
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We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
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I'm not. Something I learned some time back is that unless the kernel and device tree of the aftermarket ROM (like AOSP, or a derivative like CM) is developed by someone that knows every last nook can cranny of the device (as in the OEM, and I don't imagine that happening), the device won't be optimized out of the gate to provide better battery life than stock.
Hacking a device tree from scratch, rather than building on what the OEM has provided (albeit not knowing what route they are going with this one) spells problems. Of my two devices that I had custom ROMs for, neither worked fully (no matter which ROM you chose) or engaged more hardware (something was always missing or broken) , and the battery life was worse than stock (even with modest OS jump, from stock GB to ICS/CM9).
You can see how I voted, although I am not reserved to stock forever. CM13 or CM14 would be the time I would be interested in something other than stock, when the kernel and device tree becomes mature enough to prove myself wrong regarding the above.
The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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I have DT2W active and I have deepsleep..try wiping everything, maybe you have some problem on the phone.
Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
Please dont forget about ze550ml model
(Even if the roms look like they are pratically the same, except for DPI setting)
yeayyy cynogenmod for our zenfone 2 yeHaaaa
This thread should be closed..
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This thread should be closed..
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why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
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Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
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Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
sarthak96 said:
Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
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Second post in this thread.
MatteXperiaU said:
why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
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What about it would you like to discuss?
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What about it would you like to discuss?
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
Im reallly tired of Asus UI and i really need CM 12 but only if it's stable.
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
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You could follow here if you wanted. I believe the only thing you will get here with regards to CyanogenMod for the ZF2 will be the ROM post/thread when it is ready. I understand what you are getting at. My point was this particular thread should not have been made in the first place. A simple search would have yielded info the OP was looking for (with the exception of an ETA).
Shame on me but never saw any CM rom, not even from distance. Can someone link me some good source of picture/video so I can see some good/cool stuff about CM and decide if it is worth more than ASUS stock rom (which is pretty good by me)?
Hi guys , as lot of us I want a Pixel Rom with the Pixel Experience and most of all the Pixel Camera (So we can really use our camera sensor )
I have been in talks we some Developers of Pixel Roms and ask them if they would be interested in trying to make a Pixel Rom for our Mi5s and 4 of them answered me with a positive answer.
I'm creating this thread because for them to try to build the Rom we would need to join forces and Donate enought money so we could purchase them a Mi5s.
So if you are interested in a Pixel Rom and don't mind giving up a Buck for the cause just let me know in the Pool to see if this would be possible.
So I created a CrowdFunding campaing to see if we can reach the goal , I set the goal to 460$ to see if we could get two Mi5s to the two Dev's who are most interested.
If you want this to happen just donate 1$ it's a Beer and it would help alot!
http://fnd.us/51Fx7c?ref=sh_96jnqa
How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
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I agree that the Central Post should be here and if we would create on the oher Forums we should link it to this one.
I don't have a Reddit account if you guys don't mind creating for me I would appreciate.
Best regards
Wow i can't wait for it ???
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Wow i can't wait for it
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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i do my best
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Hi there , I think the point would be for him to stay with the device and we would only consider that of sending to another one if the choosen Dev won't be able to do anything per say.
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So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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What I did was asking some Developers from the Pixel section if they would be interested in making a Pixel Rom for the Xiaomi Mi5s and if they would be able to try to Port the Camera Firmware or Algorithms from the Pixel to the Xiaomi Mi5s.
Of course they can't know for sure if they are going to be able to do it but they said they would love to try , and that's the best answer we can get from anyone to be honest.
We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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If there is progress in this direction, then certainly is good news.
I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I would like to help, but like you I'm a software developer and I don't know if I can help with my knowledge. But it's cool to see peoples interested to the improvement of this camera.
When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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I'd like to know this too
Take me?I am responsible for informing the Chinese people of the miui forum
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
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sogou search 小米商城 and download ,I dare say you will come back to thank me(Because recently discounted)
Airborntx said:
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Nexus Experience rom is very similar to pixel. http://www.nxrom.us/mi5splus.html I can't tell a difference from it vs the pixel rom on my 5x other than some LOS features included.
Google photo thinks it's a pixel (unlimited storage)
Flashing the google camera - https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported takes care of the camera part, although I use a separate app for video recording since its video recording is buggy and FCs
Starting a post for those of us who are stuck without the factory images corrupted. I am one of the idiots who made a backup but didn't save it to my computer so for now I am stuck with a paper weight. If any kind helpful soul has any suggestions for I or the rest of us who may be stuck please let me know as I'm willing to try anything. I'm pretty good with twrp adb and fastboot commands. Thanks otherwise I can wait on the images from Razer I guess just wish we knew when?
Hello there i am posting here full backup factory image of all partitions before to modify anything
https://mega.nz/#F!aRZ1DaZQ!_wBY_8zSkaML97pVbwwOSA
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After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Development is meaning less and less as the push for security is becoming tighter. Soon no device will be able to be secure while having open source development.
If you do get the 5t make sure to flash an aosp based rom before you even set the device up. Mainly with them being caught again mining data and sending to to China.
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After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Hi, any update?
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Hi, any update?
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Yes they accepted my rma and are in the process of shipping a new one back to me. I will update this thread once I have received the new phone. However given we are still waiting for factory images I might just sell it and look for something else with more development....pixel XL 2 or one plus 5t.
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I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.
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I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.
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Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:
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Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:
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That's what makes me the most upset. How are you talking about the Razer 2 before even fixing some major bugs on ur current 2 month old phone.
Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.
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Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.
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All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?
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All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?
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Well that depends. Some of the drivers maybe licensed so that they are only in the wild on devices and not allowed to be released in any other fashion. Many things could be causing them not to release it. I could easily see many reasons not to release it.
Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.
Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting
qahtfa03 said:
Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.
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Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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wing_addict_usa said:
Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.
zelendel said:
Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.
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It's ez to create another account
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qahtfa03 said:
It's ez to create another account
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I have been on the other side of the fence and let me tell you that it is pointless. The tools available to sites go all the way up to the isp when needed. If someone doesn't want you on their site bad enough. Trust me. You won't be. And hiding behind a VPN or changing your iP. Don't do anything.
But you are more then welcome to give it a go.
Razer needs to pay the price for keeping root hard
Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?
mikeandjaimie said:
Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?
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I agree with you. Mine was dead but fixed it and working again on stock with help of @BakaSenpai. We tried both some ideas and put them together and worked. Still i have the corrupted at the start but working great without issues so far.
Usually when a New J series is out, our community of great developers are all over it finding ways to root and making rooms. Since the J4 has been out for a few months there hasn't been any sort of news or updates. Are there any teams working on it?
I'm afraid that the possibility is slim, since the J4 is not widely released (do correct me if I'm wrong) in the US, UK, or other big-market countries, but rather released in smaller-market countries in Africa, Asia, etc, and even so released rather quietly w/out major press releases. So unless the phone is widely released (relative to other Galaxy phones out there), I'm inclined to believe that such teams would have little to no access to the J4, and thus no development to progress for it.
(Believe me, I'm remaining optimistic that at least an unofficial recovery might be on the works, but there won't be much progress unless the J4 is more widely used/picked-up)
Or, you can learn how to do it yourself.
Not the TWRP porting, but you can definitely MOD your stock ROM to add features Samsung annoyingly disable for not being a "premium" device.
You don't need to know much of coding, you can learn as you go. When the J2 Prime was released (and even to this day) there aren't any custom ROMs so I had to teach myself and I've accomplished great things
Just wait for TWRP and then the doors will open, you'll see
;77491224 said:
Or, you can learn how to do it yourself.
Not the TWRP porting, but you can definitely MOD your stock ROM to add features Samsung annoyingly disable for not being a "premium" device.
You don't need to know much of coding, you can learn as you go. When the J2 Prime was released (and even to this day) there aren't any custom ROMs so I had to teach myself and I've accomplished great things
Just wait for TWRP and then the doors will open, you'll see
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Huh, that's interesting; I'll surely take a look.
Could you further elaborate on the "features" that Samsung disabled? (I don't use a lot of Samsung G's built-in features, so I'm not too knowledgeable on such; tried Google-searching, only came up w/ disabling apps, so that didn't really help...)
Debstup said:
Huh, that's interesting; I'll surely take a look.
Could you further elaborate on the "features" that Samsung disabled? (I don't use a lot of Samsung G's built-in features, so I'm not too knowledgeable on such; tried Google-searching, only came up w/ disabling apps, so that didn't really help...)
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For starters, things like edge screen or scroll capture (things that I use a heck of a lot)
I found it funny is that all it took as to change a bit of code here and there, add the right apps and edge screen was working perfectly on the J2 Prime (a very low-end phone).
Samsung went out of their way to delete this feature which is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Themes were also disabled for this device, but after reading a few guides I was able to implement a ROM control that allows the user to change the color to their liking
The dev community is always willing to lend a hand, just as long as you're not lazy and expect everything to be put out for you.
I feel the J4 can make a dev out of someone looking to add more functionality to their device (the J2 Prime made a dev out of me )
Ok, so the TWRPBuilder's experimental TWRP build (huge thanks to @yshalsager for this miracle) is on TWRPBuilder's site: twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Like any TWRP builds, there is ABSOLUTELY zero guarantee that it would work (I tried the first one & it didn't work, haven't had the chance to test the latest one yet)
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Ok, so the TWRPBuilder's experimental TWRP build (huge thanks to @yshalsager for this miracle) is on TWRPBuilder's site: twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Like any TWRP builds, there is ABSOLUTELY zero guarantee that it would work (I tried the first one & it didn't work, haven't had the chance to test the latest one yet)
The J4 uses identical chipset as the J5 prime G570F/M/DS.
I have both and they are great phones for their segment.
Sadly neither are well supported by ROM developers, due to the Exynos chip, I think.
missioner said:
The J4 uses identical chipset as the J5 prime G570F/M/DS.
I have both and they are great phones for their segment.
Sadly neither are well supported by ROM developers, due to the Exynos chip, I think.
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@yshalsager did a test custom recovery for J4 (via TWRPBuilder): https://twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/
Have been unable to test it atm (stuck in 7-day jail); if you want to have a go at it & let him know the results, go right ahead!
but first we have to unlock oem.but the problem is no oem unlock in the settings
brownstyle said:
but first we have to unlock oem.but the problem is no oem unlock in the settings
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Yeah that's the 7-day "jail" I was talking about - theoretically you have to leave your phone on non-stop (no reboots, no shutdowns) for 7 whole days straight, then the OEM Unlock option should become available in Dev Settings (it's a confusing security measure by Samsung on Oreo devices)
any update guys? im really bored with this phone now
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guys can we root our device j4 using magisk?
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Do not spam, if you don't get an answer then that means that nobody is working on it
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Dude
Wassup Guys,
First of all, I wanna thank every developer in this forum here for providing us with free custom roms and mods for our device. I got a G986B by myself, but I neither rooted my device, nor did I install a custom rom. I wanted to install the latest stock debloated by hmy65, sadly my device type is not supported yet.
This brings me to the question, why there are so less projects in comparison to the amount of people being active here? Besides the reason, that Samsung is not providing every source tree or similar, I am wondering why there are so less custom roms currently ...is it because of massive amount of variety between the model itself? I am a developer too, sadly I am not a pro regarding building custom roms... although I gotta admit that I am interested in learning it. Well, what do you say? I mean like the S8,S9,S10 had plenty roms avaible at that time (speaking about the passed time since the device's release).
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
digitaljeff said:
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
digitaljeff said:
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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X04D said:
Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
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Well, that's true. But I guess I speak for the majority, when I say that Samsung and Snapdragon is not always a perfect combination. Well, I'd actually build something by myself but I doubt that someone can learn that fast ??