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Why not more development for this line? There is like 3 ROMs and 1 Kernel. Apps section is a ghost town as well. Really surprised at the lack of overall involvement, from devs and user alike. Exynos related? Too many variants? Or just too many tablets being released...idk
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Why not more development for this line? There is like 3 ROMs and 1 Kernel. Apps section is a ghost town as well. Really surprised at the lack of overall involvement, from devs and user alike. Exynos related? Too many variants? Or just too many tablets being released...idk
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There are people that keep it alive Like we got cyanogenmod.. what else could you ask for? There will be more development as time goes buy as the tablet gets cheaper. Right now lollipop from Samsung is buggy.. custom rom wise. There are still people working on roms so.. wait for that.
I just counted well in excess of 20 roms and at least 8 kernels. Where have you been looking?
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There are people that keep it alive Like we got cyanogenmod.. what else could you ask for? There will be more development as time goes buy as the tablet gets cheaper. Right now lollipop from Samsung is buggy.. custom rom wise. There are still people working on roms so.. wait for that.
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Wow, the wrong place, I guess...lol. I watch all the tabs forms, I've seen iron, bliss, cn12, y, and stock, but really haven't seen much else. Usually its common to have 3 or 4 kernels for TW and a couple for CM...I mean there's development, just not the kind I would aspect for flagship devices.
more like exynos problem and tooo many variant...
It could also be because of a few other reasons, like there are so many other android tablets out there, tablets are not as popular as cell phones, so not as many people will have one. However, I have been seeing more and more ROMs and kernels slowly make their way onto the page. Like others have said - as soon as the price goes down, theres a good chance that more development will be coming.
Its a very popular model, it has tons of power (specially the 4GB/64 version) and can be easily unlocked, so why so few ROMs to choose from?
Honest question, I thought this thing would be the phone for custom ROMs, but we don't even have an official CM image.
What seems to be the problem here?
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Its a very popular model, it has tons of power (specially the 4GB/64 version) and can be easily unlocked, so why so few ROMs to choose from?
Honest question, I thought this thing would be the phone for custom ROMs, but we don't even have an official CM image.
What seems to be the problem here?
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I hope this is a joke, gosh I hope it is. We have plenty of ROMs to choose from on here. Are you not satisfied?
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There's quite a bit on here... but if you were complaining because a specific ROM hasn't been released it would probably be because of the Intel CPUs, which are not prevalent in cell phone manufacturing. You can't just do a direct port.
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I hope this is a joke, gosh I hope it is. We have plenty of ROMs to choose from on here. Are you not satisfied?
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I'm not saying we got no ROMs at all, but the selection its lets be honest a bit lacking. Dunno maybe I was expecting too much, my bad.
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it would probably be because of the Intel CPUs, which are not prevalent in cell phone manufacturing
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I was fearing this, though given android's flexibility and intel's investments I thought it wasn't that big of a problem anymore.
The latest zenfone variant is back to ARM but packing a low-end chip...
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I'm not saying we got no ROMs at all, but the selection its lets be honest a bit lacking. Dunno maybe I was expecting too much, my bad.
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The selection is actually really good for the Z00A users. The Z008 users on the other hand have just a small limit. There are other ROMs for the Z008 that aren't on XDA, but I won't go into that since I don't wants to make him mad
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troy5890 said:
The selection is actually really good for the Z00A users. The Z008 users on the other hand have just a small limit. There are other ROMs for the Z008 that aren't on XDA, but I won't go into that since I don't wants to make him mad
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you are evading the direct question. and that's is expected. Nobody has answered tha real question: why isn't an official CM version of the ROM yet?
you see? plain and simple, so now, anyone can answer that?
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you are evading the direct question. and that's is expected. Nobody has answered tha real question: why isn't an official CM version of the ROM yet?
you see? plain and simple, so now, anyone can answer that?
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We don't have an official CM version due to bugs still existing in are unofficial build. Plus the developers stated that once the bugs are ironed out, then they will try to make it official
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I think the lack of an official unlock tool from the beginning was a huge roadblock which was inevitably rectified first by third parties not Asus/Intel. The phone is also different being x86 not ARM. Taking and expanding upon existing works (CM by and large) make up most of what you call roms or communities on XDA and other sites. Take into account almost all 2015 flagships across all brands with some exceptions are all ARM and the same chipset like 808/810. It casts a larger net of humanity overall than one device with multiple variants from one company on completely different architecture.
Community seems pretty healthy for roms in my opinion. It won't approach what you seem to deem as plentiful or the like until CM is stable and people freely make derivative works based on that. It hasn't really been that long that things started rolling along and trying to gather steam last I checked.
Kindly don't leave samsung A71 users alone.we have to much hope and faith that the developers will be developing their ROMS for this device too.
Thanks
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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Lol !
So what ? this device won't get root or even twrp ??
Do you mean that ?
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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I don't think this is true and I believe there's nothing wrong with 730 / 730G. You say that there are no roms or development WHATSOEVER for other devices running the same SoC, take a look over Redmi K20 / Xiaomi Mi 9T sub-forum here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/development. I can see many roms available already so neither the 730 is bad nor the devices running on top of it are left in the dust. It is a matter of market interest and let's be honest, many mid-range devices exist that give better value for money than Galaxy A71 and it happens that most of them run other SoC and therefore, 730 may not get enough attention and that's all.
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- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
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I'm sorry but this is just BS. Here's what Qualcomm says about it:
The Snapdragon 730 serves up powerful performance and impressive battery life. It’s built to handle some of the most sophisticated on-device interactions, fueled by an 8nm process for extreme power efficiency in a small size.
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It is not that Qualcomm advertising their SoC, the better the technology (8nm), the more power-efficiency the SoC is. If you still insist on you opinion, please share some references that backs your claim up.
I believe the best statement to say here already said by the OP in the topic title: we want fully developers support to this device. It is not that developers hate 730 or that it is bad but they don't find enough reasons to buy devices with 730 because other better phones (overall) with the same price (or more affordable phones with similar performance but different SoC) exist.
omar20115 said:
Kindly don't leave samsung A71 users alone.we have to much hope and faith that the developers will be developing their ROMS for this device too.
Thanks
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XDAFan
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Lol !
So what ? this device won't get root or even twrp ??
Do you mean that ?
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Twrp is pretty useless with nothing to flash with it
Root and twrpwould be superb.
Not useless, as you can flash mods, like screen bootlogo to hide boot locker warning for example.
I got rid of the s10 plus and got an A71.
Could not justify the pricetag and performance compared to the a71.
So sold on, and half of that money bought me the a71, happ days
Aslong as can root which is main thing, do some customisation's, i'm happy
I'd be willing to do a custom ROM release for the A71 if I knew where to start, I'm a developer but never worked on Android "ROMs" before.
My goal would be a clean stable version of the Stock OS with the Google/Pixel apps installed and the Samsung crud removed.
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
It is rumored that the Pixel 4a (or XL?) will use a 730, so that may help, even though Pixel 3a has never had any rom development either really.
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Check out poco x2/redmi k30 for more eye opening information....
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- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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That's a real shame. Even debloated original rom would be great.
- The battery life / power usage of this specific chip is pretty bad.
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Two days of normal usage (12-14h SOT) is not that bad. No gaming though.
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I'd be willing to do a custom ROM release for the A71 if I knew where to start, I'm a developer but never worked on Android "ROMs" before.
My goal would be a clean stable version of the Stock OS with the Google/Pixel apps installed and the Samsung crud removed.
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You could maybe do something with gsi's? Optimise it for our device? Or maybe this tutorial can help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/guide-how-to-build-unsupported-rom-t3844972
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If you check other 730 or 730G devices, you can quickly find two flaws.
- There are no roms or development whatsoever.
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wtf man haha just look at Realme X2, Xiaomi Mi 9T, Redmi K30...
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wtf man haha just look at Realme X2, Xiaomi Mi 9T, Redmi K30...
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Hey man, I didn't said you was wrong about that nor have I said that A71 has active developers right now. I just stated the fact that your affirmation that SD730(G) devices did not have ROMs or development was wrong. Just that. About the fact that A71 doesn't have ROMs or development, you're 100% right.
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Hey man, I didn't said you was wrong about that nor have I said that A71 has active developers right now. I just stated the fact that your affirmation that SD730(G) devices did not have ROMs or development was wrong. Just that. About the fact that A71 doesn't have ROMs or development, you're 100% right.
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Uguys want to change this about a71?
If yes, please search for a71 development group in telegram. Step by step, every one can contribute to start decelopment. It will b extremely hard since most samsung snapdragon bssed devices released in 2019 and after will face lot of issues in sources and bug fixing. This is exactly how a70 decelopment started. It is still in a developingvphase. But because of contributions from every one and some exceptional devs like grarak, xtutorials etc.. a70 has an almost workable source to start with.
Lets see if a71 ysers are just as keen as a70 users to bring custom development for this device.
Joining the telegram group would be a start. We can coordinate from there on.
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Oh wait, you replied to my three months old comment... okay.
So maybe my prediction was incorrect... I made a mistake... let's check: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a71/development
Oh no.. I was 100% right. Dayum. Shame. Good try though.
(sorry for sarcasm but why reply like I messed up when my comment stood the test of time.. sadly. I wish these devices were supported, trust me.)
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Considering the amount of publicity this phone has been getting, it's just a matter of time.
Once there's proper source code for a ROM to be developed, you'll see ROMs being developed.
As it stands, the device is brand new, I mean come on it came out in January.
If my previous phone (Nokia 7 Plus) had custom ROMs despite not being able to unlock the bootloader for free because Nokia wouldn't let you, I doubt this phone won't get any ROMs.
has anyone tried any treble roms with this device?
Was going to say, the amount of publicity this phone has got and still going is up there with main flagship phones.
It is a cracking phone for sure, and would love like many, to have custom roms and further support for it.
We have to be patient, if it happens, all good, if not, it is what it is.
I guess the only bad thing is that there is no way around of not tripping Knox, despite it being a Qualcomm phone and not an Exynos phone.
So if you have insurance and/or warranty, you can kiss those two good bye the minute you decide to tamper with the bootloader.
isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
SURPRISE!
Hi guys, I am developer from Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and interesting in development to this device.
Mine ideas for this device:
* Debloated stock - stock with trash app removed, added features and other optimizing.
* TWRP - rooting and flashing will be easier
* Custom ROMs - any description needed here?
And ofc we will try boot GSI (maybe sGSI too) for this device!
Stay tuned!
(1st debloated stock version will be evelible in few weeks)
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isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
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should boot
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isnt is possible to install AOSP GSI by phussion?
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Yeah, GSI should boot here.
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By the way, what do you guys think about making thread for this, so users will see something is happening, or this is too early?
Hello as we all know rhe future of the galaxy note 4 depends on arm64 and unfortunately Samsung has decided to run the device in 32 bit only mode so can anybody pick this project up ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ers-only/wip-64bit-build-exynos-5433-t3090926
Cilekcigs said:
Hello as we all know rhe future of the galaxy note 4 depends on arm64 and unfortunately Samsung has decided to run the device in 32 bit only mode so can anybody pick this project up ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ers-only/wip-64bit-build-exynos-5433-t3090926
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Apparently you're a junior around and don't know much about this 32/64 bit thingy.
The answer is no, no one is able to do anything about it, the 64 bit will never happen.
The kernel is 32 bit locked. Why? Ask Samsung.
And did you read and understand this sentence from AndreiLux ?
"You can't simply make a 64bit kernel because it won't work due to the hypervisor and AArch64-specific exception models. The whole lower level bootloaders need to be adapted, and that's not possible."
Another answer is - how on earth do you think is Samsung seeing the Note 4 from the ROI (return of investment) and sales and marketing poin of view?
When every manufacturer is consumption oriented?
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Apparently you're a junior around and don't know much about this 32/64 bit thingy.
The answer is no, no one is able to do anything about it, the 64 bit will never happen.
The kernel is 32 bit locked. Why? Ask Samsung.
And did you read and understand this sentence from AndreiLux ?
"You can't simply make a 64bit kernel because it won't work due to the hypervisor and AArch64-specific exception models. The whole lower level bootloaders need to be adapted, and that's not possible."
Another answer is - how on earth do you think is Samsung seeing the Note 4 from the ROI (return of investment) and sales and marketing poin of view?
When every manufacturer is consumption oriented?
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Hello yes I'm new and no I'm not saying Samsung should just go out and make a 64 bit kernel. I always thought that people make custom ROMs because they love their phone not for just a temporary solution before you get a new phone (I know ROMs like linage and RR are made for many devices not one). Thanks for the explanation.
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Hello yes I'm new and no I'm not saying Samsung should just go out and make a 64 bit kernel. I always thought that people make custom ROMs because they love their phone not for just a temporary solution before you get a new phone (I know ROMs like linage and RR are made for many devices not one). Thanks for the explanation.
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Well, most of the times people make custom ROMs out of passion and a thrilling sensation of sharing knowledge. Most users of these custom ROMs are the beneficiaries of a temporary solution before getting a new phone. Some love their phone which is still good and has features which newer phones don't have. And other reasons. We shouldn't generalize.
Somehow this activity became less and less possible. Locked bootloaders are the more popular. Consumerism is the daily driver and this affects the existence of custom ROMs.
It's sad to see android devices of 1-2000$ getting only 2 major updates. And then you need to invest again in a new device.
Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
CrDroid, Pixel Experience and Ressurection Remix.
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
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MIUI lag like crap and drains battery crazy, at least on my phone.
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If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
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If an O.S. developed by many, many people who are paid to develop this, has lags,
why won't an O.S. developed by one or two people have lags too?
If your battery is discharging quickly, just track battery usage and see what's draining excessively.
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hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
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hmmm I must have bought a fake Device with a cheap 3rd party battery and Dual core 2012 MTK processor, or the many, many people are hired mainly not to develop the OS, but hired for inserting pernament adware and bloatware in the Device so that they could earn extra money.
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Probably you must to buy an iphone.
VD171 said:
Probably you must to buy an iphone.
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I kind of hate apple Locked crap. The system updates destroys the nice flagship, and if you do not update, they will greet you by not allowing you to install any app.
Samsung is nice for me, but if you hate Samsung, I have nothing to say.
VD171 said:
But, why custom?
I really prefer the original stock ROM and keep the system unchanged.
So I love magisk, because I can root without having to modify the system.
Together, Xposed, XprivacyLua, Adblocker and TitaniumBackup are all perfectly fine.
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I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
Communos said:
I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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The computer science of Xiaomi devs should be teached by their PE or Music teacher. Even DIY roms are better than MIUI.
That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
cleverdmasoy said:
Hello guys, I was planning to build a rom from source so that we can start integrating different custom roms for our devices. I have a rig with good specs and a good internet connection too. What roms do you suggest to build?
I was kinda planning to build anything that's possible since our Device Tree and Vendor Blobs is now available. I think this is a good opportunity.
Kindly leave some suggestions, I'm just a newbie.
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Give ShapeshiftOS and FluidOS a try, new roms, Quite good.
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I guess you've never used Custom roms.
Custom roms perform better than MIUI, No bloatware by default and they have a better UI.
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I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and talking that you love to stay on MIUI will be a waste of time.
Communos said:
We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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VD171 said:
I don't like to waste my time with not trusted things.
If you don't like MIUI, certainly you should not buy a Xiaomi phone.
I prefer systemless modifications.
If you have enough time for wasting, it is not my problem.
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There are thousands, if not millions, of people using custom roms on a Xiaomi phone and not a single one said their phones are hacked due to the custom rom. To say the least, Even MIUI is not close to being trusted as soon as you unlocked the bootloader.
Communos said:
That's the issue with Xiaomi, good hardware, poor software. They are able to provide cheap smartphones only due to earning money from ads in the softwares. Let's see development for Note 9 is going good now, almost every bug is fixed and device tree is stable, forums for note 9 should be filled with roms within time.
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Then you should not, and never come to this thread as we are talking about custom roms, and persuading people to stay on MIUI crap will be a waste of time.
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Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
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Who is trying to persuad anybody ?
Who cares for what O.S. you will use ?
I'm givin my opinion.
If you don't like my opinion, well, who cares ?
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Ok. We are off topic here. Stop the avalanche. If that hurts, I will delete it.
Communos said:
We aren't expressing what we like or what we don't, We're telling a man what to build. So please if you don't like custom roms, you may leave this thread.
Talking about "not trusted" , Custom roms are better in terms of privacy too and are trusted.
Saying a custom rom can't be trusted is one of the dumbest thing you could say on a tech platform with tons of custom roms threads.
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Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
VD171 said:
Xiaomi builded the phone. So, I trust on Xiaomi O.S.
Anybody can build an O.S., so I prefer to keep with Xiaomi O.S.
If you prefer to use an O.S. builded by anybody that will never update it, well, it is your problem.
I prefer to keep with original stock rom.
It is my opinion.
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Custom roms are regularly updated, they have maintainers for specific devices who update the rom regularly, with security patches. Please do not speak of something which you don't know of.
Any more replies to this will be ignored, Since you clearly don't know what you're talking about and this is going OFF-TOPIC.