Its a very popular model, it has tons of power (specially the 4GB/64 version) and can be easily unlocked, so why so few ROMs to choose from?
Honest question, I thought this thing would be the phone for custom ROMs, but we don't even have an official CM image.
What seems to be the problem here?
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Its a very popular model, it has tons of power (specially the 4GB/64 version) and can be easily unlocked, so why so few ROMs to choose from?
Honest question, I thought this thing would be the phone for custom ROMs, but we don't even have an official CM image.
What seems to be the problem here?
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I hope this is a joke, gosh I hope it is. We have plenty of ROMs to choose from on here. Are you not satisfied?
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There's quite a bit on here... but if you were complaining because a specific ROM hasn't been released it would probably be because of the Intel CPUs, which are not prevalent in cell phone manufacturing. You can't just do a direct port.
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I hope this is a joke, gosh I hope it is. We have plenty of ROMs to choose from on here. Are you not satisfied?
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I'm not saying we got no ROMs at all, but the selection its lets be honest a bit lacking. Dunno maybe I was expecting too much, my bad.
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it would probably be because of the Intel CPUs, which are not prevalent in cell phone manufacturing
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I was fearing this, though given android's flexibility and intel's investments I thought it wasn't that big of a problem anymore.
The latest zenfone variant is back to ARM but packing a low-end chip...
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I'm not saying we got no ROMs at all, but the selection its lets be honest a bit lacking. Dunno maybe I was expecting too much, my bad.
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The selection is actually really good for the Z00A users. The Z008 users on the other hand have just a small limit. There are other ROMs for the Z008 that aren't on XDA, but I won't go into that since I don't wants to make him mad
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troy5890 said:
The selection is actually really good for the Z00A users. The Z008 users on the other hand have just a small limit. There are other ROMs for the Z008 that aren't on XDA, but I won't go into that since I don't wants to make him mad
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you are evading the direct question. and that's is expected. Nobody has answered tha real question: why isn't an official CM version of the ROM yet?
you see? plain and simple, so now, anyone can answer that?
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you are evading the direct question. and that's is expected. Nobody has answered tha real question: why isn't an official CM version of the ROM yet?
you see? plain and simple, so now, anyone can answer that?
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We don't have an official CM version due to bugs still existing in are unofficial build. Plus the developers stated that once the bugs are ironed out, then they will try to make it official
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I think the lack of an official unlock tool from the beginning was a huge roadblock which was inevitably rectified first by third parties not Asus/Intel. The phone is also different being x86 not ARM. Taking and expanding upon existing works (CM by and large) make up most of what you call roms or communities on XDA and other sites. Take into account almost all 2015 flagships across all brands with some exceptions are all ARM and the same chipset like 808/810. It casts a larger net of humanity overall than one device with multiple variants from one company on completely different architecture.
Community seems pretty healthy for roms in my opinion. It won't approach what you seem to deem as plentiful or the like until CM is stable and people freely make derivative works based on that. It hasn't really been that long that things started rolling along and trying to gather steam last I checked.
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Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
I'm getting ready to release my first ROM for this phone.
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Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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This^ Previous phone was the GNex and it was unbelievable how many variants and kangs there were for CM10, AOKP, etc. I ran a lot of them but in the end there wasn't all that much that was different from the original rom. In a lot of cases, the variant ran worse.
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
I agree with what has been said already. Quality is better than quantity... My old S2 had about 194873 ^6 worth of different roms. Touchwiz this and AOSP that and don't forget the AOKP, with CM and a side of Sense ports. In the end I dropped myself on a really good rom called The Blu Kuban which was headed up by rujelus22 over in the Epic 4g Touch development forum. I ran that rom for about 18 months before I nix'd my device and went over to the red side here at Verizon. I heard he went forth to the S4 and has kept that rom's traditions alive. He was one dev who was helped by the many and made a rom that many made their daily drivers just like I did.
I know we have a good community over here as well as even before beaups dropped rumrunner on us we had a few devs tinkering with their roms.
Now remember! A community is only as good as the people around it. Support your devs any way you can if it's simple donations or a click of the thanks buttons. But most of all, be part of the community. List the bugs you find in the roms, mods, and tweaks. Help the devs make the best they can and we all prosper.
I'd still like to see old Sense on this phone. Like Sense 3 or 4.
I'd also like to see a CM variant built off Sense base. Like the old style ROMs that had all full Sense apk compatibility but no Sense launcher. Not sure if this is doable with Sense 5 though.
And last but not least, hopefully a dev will pick up Ubuntu Touch.
Just a daydreamin' wishlist.. lol
Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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you could port sense4+ to this phone (someone did it on the intl one) as the kernel base is the same (3.4.x)
dont know why you would really want to, but its possible
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
nitsuj17 said:
thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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He did .. You must have not read it...
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cstrife999 said:
He did .. You must have not read it...
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Here I was thinking it was truly reefer madness...lol
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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I know what he said is true and I don't care. CPU vs GPU. That interests me.
What is with the lack of custom roms for our phone? Is it the lack of devs who own the device, or is it the lack of open source resources for our device? Thanks for your responses.
We have more roms than the international version. What are you crying about?
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We have more roms than the international version. What are you crying about?
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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Dont worry bro the devs probably barely got their devices rightnow. We dont know what they are planning. But they will be coming and you will be first to enjoy a fully custom phone and quench the thirst. I have it too. The fact that the bootloader is unlocked for tmbile make me relieved[emoji27]
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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I could be way off here but if you want aosp you better start compiling it. For some reason I doubt we will see official aosp or aokp until one of us gets the ball rolling on github. I would but the idea of being a guinea pig for the kernel scares me off. If anyone knows of it officially being worked on please correct me.
I wish i could help unfortunately I cant code very much.. Anyways I cant wait for some LG G3 custom ROM love. :good:
It took almost 2 months for the first AOSP rom to start showing up for the G2, and that had less exposure. It just takes time.
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Be patient. Device just recently came out. The fact we even have a full root and 2 flavors of stock is nice already given the time
I like LG's take on Android. I'd be happy with a properly debloated rom and custom kernel.
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I could be way off here but if you want aosp you better start compiling it. For some reason I doubt we will see official aosp or aokp until one of us gets the ball rolling on github. I would but the idea of being a guinea pig for the kernel scares me off. If anyone knows of it officially being worked on please correct me.
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Trust me, If I could code, I wouldve started by now lol, but as far as I've seen , there is a guy messing with a 4.4.4 aosp build or Android L build in the general section of the T-Mobile threads. From what I've read he's responsible for the Android L port to the Nexus 4, so at least we have someone digging at it.
Other than that I haven't seen anything else.
This is my first non nexus LG smartphone , so forgive me if Im not privy to how long development normally takes. All I can say is I'm definitely excited to see something
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I dont know how develpoment is now on the the G2 but when i had it there wasnt much going on there, I think i flashed international roms on that device, would that be possible with the G3?
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I dont know how develpoment is now on the the G2 but when i had it there wasnt much going on there, I think i flashed international roms on that device, would that be possible with the G3?
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With the G2 you could do that as long as you had a D801 kernel to flash on top of it. Might be the same here.
I wanted to compile AOSPA (paranoid android for those who don't know), but couldn't find the device tree for this device. Someone answered me on here and said that they needed to be built and none were available at this time.
That's what we're waiting for to get any type of AOSP rom on this device. I looked into building it myself, but it's a bit over my head.
Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield
Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML
If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...
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CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.
custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
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Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.
SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge
Tuanies said:
This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all
There is Scorpion and thats it? I thought it will be as good as with OnePlus or even better?!
Because the stock OS/ROM kicks so much ass. IMO
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There is Scorpion and thats it? I thought it will be as good as with OnePlus or even better?!
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Go compile one then, it's not that hard to do. You can't just expect developers to feel obligated to everyone here on XDA. Devs usually compile and work on things when they have time away from their daily duties.
In fact, there's actually multiple ROMs, but they're not posted here on xda yet.
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There is Scorpion and thats it? I thought it will be as good as with OnePlus or even better?!
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In a week the phones will have been out in the US for 2 months, patience grasshopper.
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There is Scorpion and thats it? I thought it will be as good as with OnePlus or even better?!
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Dirty Unicorns is out
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Because the stock OS/ROM kicks so much ass. IMO
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Same thoughts here. Stock and a custom kernel is all I need.
LOL. What a completely entitled thread. I'm surprised no one has called out the OP.
It's people like you that push away our development. Put a bad taste in a talented persons mouth who wanted to make a rom but not for those who feel entitled to one. What does your post accomplish? It's not going to encourage more development that's for sure.
As others have said there's more ROMs out there, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason they haven't posted it here is because the community here on XDA can be toxic when people group together to complain about the lack of ROMs or how what is available isn't good enough. Be happy that we do have a rom here, or go out and build the rom yourself.
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honestly i think we just need a good few magisk modules and the *need* for modified stock roms goes away, we'll still have AOSP roms being developed for. just have some patience
Probably not the best approach to getting more ROMs is calling out the forums for lack of them for a device that is still "new". Take a breath and be patient, sir. These things take time.
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Because the stock OS/ROM kicks so much ass. IMO
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I'll actually agree with this. This Pixel 3 XL I own is the first time I've run Android stock in a long time and actually like it. My device is on the Pie December update and only rooted with Magisk, a few modules like Active Edge or ViPER4Androi0d installed, and ElementalX kernel and performance and battery life is quite good. Unless some serious custom ROMs like ResurrectionRemix (which I loved on my Nexus 6P) make it over, I probably won't even bother with a custom ROM.
This a hobby development forum! People provide work here as a hobby! NOT as a job!
XDA was created by developers to share knowledge...knowledge that members could use to create their own work!
Before you ask the question "why are there so few ROMs?" perhaps ask the question why you haven't learned how to create your own and contribute to this site.
Last I checked Google is not giving these devices away...they cost $900!!! Have you thought that maybe most developers chose a different device?
This thread has run its course.
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Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I know we have one of the best time devs he had a locked bootloader Las t I heard tho
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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I'm using this kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-pro-cross-device-development/kernel-t4002781
It is very good.
xflowy said:
Hey,
since I am getting my 7t soon and always valued the oneplus phones as developer friendly I am wondering if the lack of devs and roms/kernels for this particular phone will sort itself out over time? Is there any issue preventing things like proper twrp and stuff from happening?
Can you recommend a kernel (from the few out there) and is there any other place to look for them?
ElementalX has it covered, right?
Thanks!
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There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
thedrizzle said:
There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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you kidding right?
One of the major Problems is twrp still needs time for Android 10.
It's a problem for every device.
You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.
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There's plenty of development for this phone, just not on xda.
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Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?
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Where ?
Do you have some telegram links ?
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Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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Awhhh man , PM me.
I try to contribute, I am working on a new nethunter kernel that supports
mjwhirly said:
You also have the option of arter97's kernel that he just brought to the 7t
[r40] arter97 kernel for OnePlus 7 series
There may not be a huge quantity of devs for the phone yet but in this case, you have a few very good developers already.
Oh and on a side note, Arter97 is helping to bring Paranoid Android back to the scene so good things are coming.
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yea, saw this and got excited cause he really seems to know his stuff, but then i realized he just released the last/final version for oos and wont be continuing to provide for the original os.
Skripka said:
Most of those links are semi-private by invite-only.
Developers got tired of requests and demands from rookie users on XDA, and rightly or wrongly felt under-appreciated at complaints about their free for-fun work...and then took their for-funsies development to more private areas. There also has been much squabbling and drama about "originality" and "kanging" in conjunction with moderation here over the decade+ Android has been a thing; which annoyed developers more. XDA really was a victim of XDA's and Androids own success over crappy OEMs undermaintaining their own firmware. Thus the seeming deadness and lack of development across most devices, now.
I know links and very active and very-elite groups on TG--but am not sharing them, because then I'll lose my own access to those channels. Not trying to show-off or be a jerk here, just explaining how and why.
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and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?
xflowy said:
and how do one get access to those elitist circles if one is not a newbish user?
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I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.
Ditto
Superguy said:
I'd like to know as well. I just past 12 years of membership last week. I think that qualifies me as non-noob.
I was here when they were developing for the old Windows Mobile.
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Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.
I miss the old Nexus days easy to root support galore.
jcotterman said:
Also on year 12 and originally from WM days. Back when HTC was THE phone to own.
Would also be interested in the alternate site. I am not a dev but gladly test pretty much everything.
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Yep - cut my teeth on the HTC phones. Still used them off and on up to the 10.
NATF used to do the best WM ROMs back in the day.
So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?
aaryan45 said:
So What Should I Do? OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T?
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7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available
hightech316 said:
7t has the 855+, not sure a out the pro. There is a pro 7t available
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My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones
aaryan45 said:
My main concern is that, will 7t get great custom ROM support as other OnePlus phones
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Why not? Just wait for twrp development. 7 pro, 7T and 7T pro will have same rom and kernal development as the source is almost same.