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[GUIDE] Insanely Better Battery Life When Idle - Battery Life Thread

UPDATE: Wanted to add from personal experience that these tricks all work on 4.4 KitKat ROMs. This information isn't stale
This guide should work for any Android phone running any ROM. (Though you do have to be rooted for most of these options. Nothing is THAT simple!)
The goal is to reduce your battery drain when your phone is idle. Nothing in this guide will improve your battery life when the phone is in use. But it will keep the battery from draining quickly (actually it will nearly keep it from draining at all) when the screen it off and the phone is not in use. And the battery savings can be extreme! As I write this guide my phone it has been 4 days, 15 hours, and 9 minutes since I last unplugged my Galaxy S4. I have 33% battery life remaining. You can have this too!
These fixes are not your typical "Lower screen brightness and delete carreir bloatware and disable auto syncing" tips. (Though all that stuff is still a good idea)
You can try all of these techniques or just some of them. Some of them will break features of your phone and might not be good options for you. Only you can decide if these fixes are right for you.
Special thanks for Mike216 and Penko956 for the endless research they did Greenifying, freezing, and disabling they did on just about every system and app on thier phone to see what all could be disabled. And to Torbitege who initially helped figure all this out with me for the HTC Sensation.
First off, what's using your battery?
If you're not already familiar with Better Battery Stats, fix that about yourself. Download it. Use it. Love it.
This app will run in the background constantly monitoring what's using your system resources 24 hours a day. It will tell you what apps are causing wakelocks, which are waking the device, etc etc etc.
The app won't do anything to help your battery life. But it will give you the information you need to adjust problematic apps.
Wakelocks and Battery Drain caused by Google Services
The battery saving impact is major.
This is my personal favorite battery saving technique. But it's not right for everyone, so read thoroughly.
Basically Google thinks your phone belongs to Google. Google Services runs A LOT even when you're not using the phone. This causes a ton of wakelocks and wake ups that use battery. I hate that. So I stopped it with a simple mod to the Google Services Framework.
Here's how....
This is a good old fashioned dirty fix, as it breaks some things. Most push notifications WILL NOT WORK AFTER DOING THIS!!!!! So this is not for everyone!!!! You've been warned. Please don't complain later in the thread that you aren't getting new mail or Twitter or whatever notifications after doing this. You're being told up front they will probably not work.
GTalk and GoogleNow (and maybe a few other things) will not work after doing this. Push notifications for any Google apps will also not work. They are casualties of the dirty fix. But if you're like me and never use GTalk or GNow this will help. Some other Google services might not work after this either. But if you're like me and the only Google service you use is the Play Store app, this will not affect you adversely. (Gmail and Google Maps run independantly of the Google Services framework and are not affected at all by this.)
Use this version of the fix for older Google Service Framework installs. You will know if you have a newer version if doing this install doesnt' prevent your wifi and data icons from turning blue (or whatever color your theme uses). If they turn blue, use the newer version below....
You need to download System Tuner from Google Play. The app will tell you to get Android Tuner instead. Don't do it. It doesn't have what you need. The icon is a blue suitcase with tools on it. Thats' the one you want.
First I froze GTalk and Gnow (Google Search). And no, you can't just freeze those two apps without touching the GSF. The GSF will still create wakelocks when trying to activate them even if they are not there. So you have to modify the GSF as well.
Go to System Tuner and select "Start Ups".
Then pick the Google Services Framework from the list and open it. You shoudl see a list of services.
Uncheck the things on the list below. (Basicall anything with GTalk or Checkin in the title)
gtalkservice.diagnostits.gtalkdiagnostics
gtalkservice.connection autherrordialog
talk.talkprovider
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkin.eventlogservices$receiver
gtalkservice.diagnostics.gtalkdiagnosticsbroadcast reciever
gtalkservice.serviceautostarter
gtalkservices.datamessagereciever
gtalkservice.sendxmppreciever
gtalkservices.packageinstalledreciever
gtalkservice.xmppendpointreciever
checkin.evenlogservice
gtalkservice.service.stalkservice
gtalkservice.pushmessagingregistar
You can freeze the GSF entirely with 1 easy step and that will also kill the wakelocks. But the Play Store becomes another casualty if you do that. Disabling the events above will stop the Google Services wakelocks dead in their tracks, and allow the Play Store to continue working. If you want to go that route you can do it but you'd have to unfreeze the GSF everytime you wanted to update an app.
Newer version if you have updated Google Service Framework.
Freeze the Google Services Framework entirely.
Profit.
Note: I haven't personally tried this and can't attest to it's viability to drawbacks. It was suggested by other members in this thread and confirmed to be working by several other people. Your miliage may vary.
One little quirk with both of the above versions is that when you turn on wifi or mobile data, the signal bars don't turn colors. They stay gray because you aren't connecting to the google servers anymore. (They normally change color to indicate that you are connected to the Google servers). After 1 day I stopped noticing they didn't change colors. Now it looks weird to me when I see them colored.
I highly recommend making a Nandroid backup before trying any of this. Once you go that, go nuts! You can't hurt too much when messing with the GSF because it will just shut down google elements. Worst case, you can always just reactivate everything, reboot, and it'll all work like it did before you messed with it. But if you accidentally disable Android System instead of Google Services, you will probably kill your ROM. So back a backup first.
And severely worst case, if you totally louse up your ROM, just restore the Nandroid and it'll all be back to normal in a flash. (Get it? In a 'flash'...haha I crack myself up)
The Greenify App Sollution
The battery saving impact is moderate.
This is one that you're just silly not to be doing.
Get the Greenify App from The Play Store
There is a free version. But its freakin' awesome so buy the donate version. It's $3 and the developer has more than earned it for the way he's making your phone awesome. (The donate version also includes some special experimental features. Read all about it. Do NOT just get the donate version. You need the free version too.)
This app basically lets your freeze any user app when you're not actively using it. And unfreeze it automatically when you want to open it again.
So if you have an app that likes to wake your device and run itself when you're not using the phone, you can just Greenify it and it will be prevented from using any system resources when you're not actively using the app.
You don't want to Greenify everything. Some apps need to run 24/7 like your messaing app, your phone app, etc. If you Greenify those you won't get messages or calls. The app is incredibly simple to us. You just select the app that's causing trouble and tell Greenify to 'go'. And it does the rest. It's just as easy to un-greenify an app if you greenify something you shouldn't have.
Not every app on your phone needs to be Greenified. Most apps behave themselves. Only do this to the ones that are showing as causing wakes or alarms or wakelocks in a battery monitor like Better Battery Stats.
Two that I will suggest for everyone to start with are Google Maps and T Mobile's My Account app. Both of these love to run when the phone is alseep.
If for whatever reason Greenify those apps hinders the way you use your phone, just ungreenify them! Simple as that.
Google Play Services and You
The battery saving impact is noticable.
Google Play Services wakes the phone a lot. It also does a lot. Read more about what all Google Play Services does here.
You have two options for this one. The first option is the nuclear option. Freeze Google Play Services outright. It will never bother you, but it might break some usefulness of other google apps.
The second option, thanks to XDA Member Karpfenhai , is to disable only certain aspects of the Google Play Services. This one uses the same technique mentioned above in the Google Services Framework Section, just different services to disable. (Thanks to Perseus71 for making me aware of this one and asking that it be included!) THIS HAS BEEN RECENTLY UPDATED
NEW PROBLEM AS OF MARCH 2015
The battery saving potential is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!
Since Google updated Play Services all hell has broken loose on custom roms. You get a persistent and unkillable wakelock for SystemUpdateManager.
The battery drain is horrendous. Your phone is awake and active 100% of the time.
This affects GPS version 7.0.97
I fixed this by going to the permissions manager (built into many aosp roms. If not available in your rom, consult yoir rom thread for ways to alter permissions) and disabling the permission in Google Play Services for "wake" and "keep awake".
Note: Some phones only show "keep awake". Just do that one if that is the case.
The problem is that on custom roms no ota is available. But Google tries to get it anyway. When it fails it doesn't shut down. It just keeps trying.
If the permissions method doesn't work, try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/fix-fix-systemupdateservice-wakelock-t3060548
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Just so you don't think I'm kidding around when I say you can severely increase your battery drain when idle, take a look at tehse screen shots from my Galaxy S4.
My specific set up is running CyanogenMod 10.1 nightlies with ChronicKernal. I haven't been using my phone much over the past 4 days. I have a total of 2 hours and 34 minutes screen on time and 40 minutes of phone calls during that period. So this is admittedly very light usage. But that's perfect to show you that these techniques really work to minimize battery drain when the phone is idle. And I promise you that your results will vary based on your ROM and Kernel.
This won't make the battery last longer during use. The screen will still burn a lot of battery and the cell radio does too. But if you want to make sure your phone will be charged when you need it without you having to carry a charger with you everywhere you go, these are the mods for you.
As you can see from these screen shots I am at 4 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes since unplugging. I have 31% battery left. (That's what the 31 in the upper left corner is. Thats' from an app called Big Battery Notifier. Its free on Play.)
The other screenshot is from Better Battery Stats showing my Alarms screen. Alarms are loosely the same as wakes. Everytime an app wakes the device (not neccessarily turning the screen on) it will record an alarm. If you look at your BBS alarms screen without these modifications I bet you see a lot more alarms than you see here, and keep in mind that mine screen show is showing 4 and a half days worth. Each one of those represents an app or service waking the device and using battery.

If the written instructions somehow baffle you, here's a video of the whole thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBpOl77Tm4
This will show you step by step how to do all of this.
Thanks to XDA Member Chaitanyapatel8880 for his work in putting this video together

Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
*Note: You must use Greenify v1.82 to Hibernate Google Play Services! Search this thread for links to it.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:

Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
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I have not noticed any dysfunction, though there are likely some things I don't use. But for me it's been completely functional.
Besides, if I froze it, I'd have none of it's functions at all.

Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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How do I convert those services to user apps?
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rodny23 said:
How do I convert those services to user apps?
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Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
/System/App Mover is also good app for doing it. It's free on Google Play.

Dang right now Google services is at 41%
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Skipjacks said:
Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
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Yup. I think you're right.

Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
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kevinrubio1 said:
Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
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Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.

lordcheeto03 said:
Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.
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Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
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This has saved a bunch of us from odd battery drain. Skipjacks has been there and done that. Amazing informative thread! Going on two weeks without having to worry about bringing my charger to work thanks to skip
SGH-M919_Omega, the end result

kevinrubio1 said:
Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
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I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
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Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, but I'm going to try it out and see how it works for me. I'll report back some results in case anyone is curious

funkl3 said:
I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, . .
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It does. It also allows other functions to still work such as TTS. I had the issue a while back. Something to do with shared voice.
I also freeze Contacts and Calendar syncs as well. If I want them to sync I simply thaw them for a few seconds.

Skipjacks said:
I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
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Maybe one of the "gtalk" options has something to do with notifications because last night I rebooted my phone a lot checking/unchecking options, none of the "checking" did anything! So that's good, and I unchecked some gtalk but not all and it worked!
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Great guide! A little bitter I had to read all of the pages in the original topic :laugh:

Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services.
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Btw. I forgot to mention that after I reboot the first thing I do is turn off Google Play in Running Programs. Persistent bugger. And of course I turn off notifications and auto update in GP as well with each new ROM install.
My tweak list is extensive. Someday I'll right it all down as you have. Save me some thinking, LOL.

Samsung S3 Wind..Bad Battery life..need help

Check this screen shot. I have kitkat 4.4.2. Had really bad battery life so I did factory reset but no improvement. I am very new to this forum. I am charging my phone 3 times a day. I have rooted this phone.

That screenshot doesn't give any helpful information. You want to give at least 4 hours with as minimal usage as possible
For better battery
1) make sure WiFi always scanning is disabled in WiFi advanced settings
2) only have auto sync enabled to what is necessary, or disable it altogether and manually sync
3) make sure Google now is disabled in its settings

Change your launcher, seems like your launcher is eating some battery too. and also turn off unncessary google services, like location, GPS etc.

YPG70 said:
Change your launcher, seems like your launcher is eating some battery too. and also turn off unncessary google services, like location, GPS etc.
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Its only a minute of battery usage so I wouldn't worry about any those apps for now until they post a longer usage screenshot. You are correct about location and GPS, can't believe I forgot those

Those little tricks did amazing job. but second and third line are still bothering me. Is there any way to bring android system usage down?

Actually Every Android Phone will have usage with Android System, and OS.. So, when you get atleast 11 hrs, thats normal usage. Average is 10 hours of battery line per charge.

Battery Consumption Too High

Hello Guys and Gals,
Its been awhile since i have been on here. But i have been very satisfied with my Note4. However. It had come to a point that carrying 4 batteries with me to make it through the day was too much.
Here i am . Finally upgraded to the 8+ and overall. I am very dissapointed.
So. i would like some input on what changes you have done, as well as apps running, how much you use the device, your daily connections. and so on.
i have:
Bluetooth always on, connected to my Gear S2
Location services always on
I am a big social media junky, on FB, and IG, not too much of Snapchat.
I use Line to talk to my group that i game with
I play Transformers Earth Wars, about 15 minutes at a time a few times a day.
Do not use bixby
Screen display is set at Amoled Cinema, HD resolution, auto brightness is turned off stays between 30-60%
Very Rarely use WiFi
Google apps do not auto Update
USB Debugging
3 gmail accounts linked, sync is off
Anything else just ask,
So after my 8hr shift of work, my phone is at about 40%, my Note4 on would almost make the whole day, i would get to about 20%, then i would switch batteries.
I am not happy with the battery. Just seems like for no reason it is draining.
Comment below, let me know your setting, impressions, and so on.......... Maybe im doing something wrong and dont realize it.

Well your first problem is all the social media apps, pretty much all of them just destroy battery life. When your not using those apps I would put them to sleep.
You need to monitor which apps are draining the battery. You can do this through the stock device mait. app. Once you find out which apps are causing the drain we can go from there.
I use standard mode, screen on WQHD, sync always on, all data no wifi, screen at 50 % or higher. No social media apps, I use the browser for those.
Here's some screen shots of battery life, this is and average battery cycle, I have reached over 9hrs of Screen on time (SOT) and 1.5 days in previous cycles.

Quickvic30 said:
Well your first problem is all the social media apps, pretty much all of them just destroy battery life. When your not using those apps I would put them to sleep.
You need to monitor which apps are draining the battery. You can do this through the stock device mait. app. Once you find out which apps are causing the drain we can go from there.
I use standard mode, screen on WQHD, sync always on, all data no wifi, screen at 50 % or higher. No social media apps, I use the browser for those.
Here's some screen shots of battery life, this is and average battery cycle, I have reached over 9hrs of Screen on time (SOT) and 1.5 days in previous cycles.
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ill try that. i close my apps out as soon as im done, but im guessing that isnt enough anymore. Thanks for the info. Just was hoping to get away from the charger, but it seems that will not happen.

primus123 said:
ill try that. i close my apps out as soon as im done, but im guessing that isnt enough anymore. Thanks for the info. Just was hoping to get away from the charger, but it seems that will not happen.
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Believe it or not sometimes that consumes more battery life having to open the app every time vs just letting it run in the background. Probably not true with social media apps but it's worth a try. You may also want to try a package disabler app from the play store to disable apps you don't use that run in the background. I use BK package disabler.
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Quickvic30 said:
Believe it or not sometimes that consumes more battery life having to open the app every time vs just letting it run in the background. Probably not true with social media apps but it's worth a try. You may also want to try a package disabler app from the play store to disable apps you don't use that run in the background. I use BK package disabler.
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Ok, i may give that a shot.
Thanks,

Terrible battery life - WhatsApp the culprit?

Hello Forum,
I've been experiencing terrible battery life for these days. I have minimal apps installed on my phone and with background apps killed, I still loose approximately 10% per hour even while I am sleeping. One thing I observed though that WhatsApp for some reason runs in the background despite not being open in the background and restricted too. Could someone please review the attached screenshots and share your views? Thanks in advance!

Can you also take a screenshot of full device usage ?
You can get that by 3 dots in battery usage page, maybe google play services is responsible which means you need root or adb permisson'd battery programs.

Even if you restrict background usage, WhatsApp will mask itself as a foreground app and keep running to fetch it's messages. Honestly speaking, iPhone is way more optimised for these kinds of things.

Question Abnormal battery consumption when idle?

My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
WiFi and Bluetooth are turned off. I don't have a SIM card installed yet, but even with a "Aeroplane mode" activated, I get the same consumption.
Is that consumption normal?
What irritates me is that in the beginning I saw horizontal lines in the "Battery usage" chart, indicating close to zero battery consumption when the phone was turned off. I don't get these horizontal segments anymore.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and it shows 100% time spent in Deep sleep (but shows a "5% / 5%" for "Discharge Screen Off"). In the "OTHERS" chart, "Doze" is a continuous line but "Active" shows a lot of interrupted small blocks ("Screen" is obviously completely absent). "Wifi" is shown as always on, but I believe that is a bug because I turned off the location-based features that turn on Wifi automatically, turned on Aeroplane mode, etc. After a restart, the "Wifi" bar was correctly absent for a while but briefly turning Wifi on, got it back to "always on". I'm 99.9% sure this is a GSam bug.
I have double confirmed with "DevCheck" that the CPU goes to "Deep sleep" and spends pretty much all the time in that state.
I get about "5m" combined App Wakelocks in 48h.
The biggest battery consumer is "Kernel (Android OS) 7.5%", followed by "System (*wakelock*) 2.3%", "Google Play services 1.6%". These figures are from a 14 day period in which I used the phone for 3h to play a game (6.7% consumption) and otherwise only turned it on to check the battery. I currently don't have access to the percentage figures during pure sleeping since I plugged in the phone for charging.
Using GSam Battery Monitor, I don't see any app wasting battery life in the background. It's the kernel that consumes the vast majority of the battery life, if the phone is idle. The Android/Asus Battery usage stats show "Phone idle" with 54.7% for that 14 day period. The next one is the game with 3.8% (played for 3h) and then there is "Screen" with 1.9%.
I'd understand this kind of idle figure if the phone had a SIM card installed and bad reception but as I said before there is no card in the phone yet and the consumption is the same if I put it in Aeroplane mode.
I'm running Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241.
The battery "system mode" is "Dynamic". The refresh rate is set to "60Hz" (not that it should matter with the screen turned off all the time). "Battery Saver" in the "Developer options" is turned "on".
I'd be grateful if someone could comment on the 5% battery life loss within 24h. I realize that many will not be able to compare this with their figures, as they'll have a cell phone service running, but perhaps those who turns on Aeroplane mode, should have comparable figures, for an 8h period, or so.
My Huawei Mate 20 (running Android 10) shows pretty much no consumption at all over night via the battery stats, when I turn on Aeroplane mode. Perhaps it loses 1% or at most 2%, I'll check again. Should the ROG Phone 6 behave the same, or is this difference to be expected?
Again, I'm irritated that I definitely saw multiple horizontal (no usage) periods in the battery usage chart in the beginning. I'm pretty sure these appeared before I had given the phone a full charge yet, so perhaps they weren't really indicative of close to zero consumption due to a lack of battery capacity calibration.

TomKay said:
My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
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Congratulations. 0.2%/h is a very good result.

TomKay said:
My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
WiFi and Bluetooth are turned off. I don't have a SIM card installed yet, but even with a "Aeroplane mode" activated, I get the same consumption.
Is that consumption normal?
What irritates me is that in the beginning I saw horizontal lines in the "Battery usage" chart, indicating close to zero battery consumption when the phone was turned off. I don't get these horizontal segments anymore.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and it shows 100% time spent in Deep sleep (but shows a "5% / 5%" for "Discharge Screen Off"). In the "OTHERS" chart, "Doze" is a continuous line but "Active" shows a lot of interrupted small blocks ("Screen" is obviously completely absent). "Wifi" is shown as always on, but I believe that is a bug because I turned off the location-based features that turn on Wifi automatically, turned on Aeroplane mode, etc. After a restart, the "Wifi" bar was correctly absent for a while but briefly turning Wifi on, got it back to "always on". I'm 99.9% sure this is a GSam bug.
I have double confirmed with "DevCheck" that the CPU goes to "Deep sleep" and spends pretty much all the time in that state.
I get about "5m" combined App Wakelocks in 48h.
The biggest battery consumer is "Kernel (Android OS) 7.5%", followed by "System (*wakelock*) 2.3%", "Google Play services 1.6%". These figures are from a 14 day period in which I used the phone for 3h to play a game (6.7% consumption) and otherwise only turned it on to check the battery. I currently don't have access to the percentage figures during pure sleeping since I plugged in the phone for charging.
Using GSam Battery Monitor, I don't see any app wasting battery life in the background. It's the kernel that consumes the vast majority of the battery life, if the phone is idle. The Android/Asus Battery usage stats show "Phone idle" with 54.7% for that 14 day period. The next one is the game with 3.8% (played for 3h) and then there is "Screen" with 1.9%.
I'd understand this kind of idle figure if the phone had a SIM card installed and bad reception but as I said before there is no card in the phone yet and the consumption is the same if I put it in Aeroplane mode.
I'm running Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241.
The battery "system mode" is "Dynamic". The refresh rate is set to "60Hz" (not that it should matter with the screen turned off all the time). "Battery Saver" in the "Developer options" is turned "on".
I'd be grateful if someone could comment on the 5% battery life loss within 24h. I realize that many will not be able to compare this with their figures, as they'll have a cell phone service running, but perhaps those who turns on Aeroplane mode, should have comparable figures, for an 8h period, or so.
My Huawei Mate 20 (running Android 10) shows pretty much no consumption at all over night via the battery stats, when I turn on Aeroplane mode. Perhaps it loses 1% or at most 2%, I'll check again. Should the ROG Phone 6 behave the same, or is this difference to be expected?
Again, I'm irritated that I definitely saw multiple horizontal (no usage) periods in the battery usage chart in the beginning. I'm pretty sure these appeared before I had given the phone a full charge yet, so perhaps they weren't really indicative of close to zero consumption due to a lack of battery capacity calibration.
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I lose 0% on 10 hours standby in flight mode

Thanos88 said:
I lose 0% on 10 hours standby in flight mode
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That's great!
What build number of Android OS are you running?
I'd be grateful, if you could check it and post it here.
Have you done anything to get this performance or is it "out of the box"?

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0.2%/h is a very good result.
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I'm not so sure.
First, remember that this figure is without any cell phone service drawing current.
Second, I initially saw segments of the battery consumption graph that were horizontal, but no longer do.
Third, look at what Thanos88 reported.
I've seen other posts about unusually high idle consumption of the ROG Phone 6. I believe most users will not even notice because they don't shut down their phones fully and the idle consumption disappears as noise under the all the higher normal consumption. Perhaps other users don't complain, because they don't suffer from the issue I seem to be having. I don't know.

TomKay said:
That's great!
What build number of Android OS are you running?
I'd be grateful, if you could check it and post it here.
Have you done anything to get this performance or is it "out of the box"?
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android 12
.197 firmware
Done plenty of app debloating

Thanos88 said:
android 12
.197 firmware
Done plenty of app debloating
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Thanks!
I note that you are not on the latest version (.241). That could explain the difference. Perhaps I saw the near to zero consumption before I accepted the update to .241? That is quite possible.
I've done a lot of app debloating as well, removing Facebook, etc., but as I mentioned before, there are no apps that cause any noteworthy battery consumption. Did you do anything out of the ordinary? I first just uninstalled and/or disabled some apps/services that I did not need and later even uninstalled some via ADB. The latter made no difference regarding battery consumption.
My 5%/24h figure comes from
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
3.5% com.android.systemui:screenshot
3.1% Google Play services
2.0% com.google.uid.shared:.....
1.9% GSam Battery Monitor
0.9% ASUS Launcher
There are some more (e.g., 0.4% Gmail) but they don't use much at all.
Time Held Awake (over a 37h period):
Kernel (Android OS) 10m 53s
Android System 4m 1s
Google Play services 16s
com.google.uid.shared:..... 2s
com.android.systemui:screenshot 1s
That's all, no other apps/services are reported to keep the phone awake (while it was idling).
Number of times Waking Device
Google Play services 48
Android System 34
Calendar Storage 8
android.uid.calendar:..... 7
com.android.systemui:screenshot 6
com.google.android.partnersetup 5
There are a few more, but the next one has a figure of 3 and the rest are all lower.
No network data used (no SIM card, Wifi turned off) and no location used either.
I note that further battery consumers were sensors used by
Dirac Control Service 13m 5s
Android System 1m 17s
I do not know whether this is normal.
Is it possible to revert to the .197 firmware (or whatever firmware version my phone originally had) by performing a factory reset?
Or does the latter just clear all user data but leaves the current firmware in place?
In the latter case I would have to flash the .197 firmware manually, correct?
Would the latter be safe regarding warranty, etc.?
I don't want to root the phone or anything like that, I just would like to avoid unnecessary battery consumption.

TomKay said:
Thanks!
I note that you are not on the latest version (.241). That could explain the difference. Perhaps I saw the near to zero consumption before I accepted the update to .241? That is quite possible.
I've done a lot of app debloating as well, removing Facebook, etc., but as I mentioned before, there are no apps that cause any noteworthy battery consumption. Did you do anything out of the ordinary? I first just uninstalled and/or disabled some apps/services that I did not need and later even uninstalled some via ADB. The latter made no difference regarding battery consumption.
My 5%/24h figure comes from
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
3.5% com.android.systemui:screenshot
3.1% Google Play services
2.0% com.google.uid.shared:.....
1.9% GSam Battery Monitor
0.9% ASUS Launcher
There are some more (e.g., 0.4% Gmail) but they don't use much at all.
Time Held Awake (over a 37h period):
Kernel (Android OS) 10m 53s
Android System 4m 1s
Google Play services 16s
com.google.uid.shared:..... 2s
com.android.systemui:screenshot 1s
That's all, no other apps/services are reported to keep the phone awake (while it was idling).
Number of times Waking Device
Google Play services 48
Android System 34
Calendar Storage 8
android.uid.calendar:..... 7
com.android.systemui:screenshot 6
com.google.android.partnersetup 5
There are a few more, but the next one has a figure of 3 and the rest are all lower.
No network data used (no SIM card, Wifi turned off) and no location used either.
I note that further battery consumers were sensors used by
Dirac Control Service 13m 5s
Android System 1m 17s
I do not know whether this is normal.
Is it possible to revert to the .197 firmware (or whatever firmware version my phone originally had) by performing a factory reset?
Or does the latter just clear all user data but leaves the current firmware in place?
In the latter case I would have to flash the .197 firmware manually, correct?
Would the latter be safe regarding warranty, etc.?
I don't want to root the phone or anything like that, I just would like to avoid unnecessary battery consumption.
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Try to force stop and clear data & clear cache of Google play services , then reboot your device , charge to full and then see what happens

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Try to force stop and clear data & clear cache of Google play services , then reboot your device , charge to full and then see what happens
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Thanks for the tip! I've done that before, without the "charge to full". I can try the exact sequence you have described.
Given the usage figures, Google play services are not using much:
Just
3.1% Google Play services
compared to
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
Are you saying that either Google Play services are using battery in a way that GSam does not catch, or that Google Play services somehow responsible for the high system consumption?

I would say Google play services is causing the issue. Also I forgot to mention, make sure you force stop, then click "uninstall updates" on Google play services, then clear cache , then Clear data then reboot your phone.
If that doesn't help, I highly recommend you dow load BBS (Better battery stats) , give it adb permissions, and monitor your battery life/wakelocks with that app
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Thanks for the tip! I've done that before, without the "charge to full". I can try the exact sequence you have described.
Given the usage figures, Google play services are not using much:
Just
3.1% Google Play services
compared to
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
Are you saying that either Google Play services are using battery in a way that GSam does not catch, or that Google Play services somehow responsible for the high system consumption?
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I would say Google play services is causing the issue. Also I forgot to mention, make sure you force stop, then click "uninstall updates" on Google play services, then clear cache , then Clear data then reboot your phone.
If that doesn't help, I highly recommend you dow load BBS (Better battery stats) , give it adb permissions, and monitor your battery life/wakelocks with that app
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I followed the steps you described (including the "uninstall updates") and will report results, once the phone has fully charged and has idled for 24h. If there is no change, I'll uninstall GSam and install BBS.
Thanks a lot for your help.

Sadly, clearing the data&cache of Google Play services and downgrading it, did not help, at least it does not look like it helped right now.
This time, the battery lost 6% in 30h (went from 100% to 94%).
The last few hours showed very little battery consumption, though. Perhaps there was some book keeping to do after reboot which caused some consumption up until very recently.
I'll let the phone idle for another 24h and see whether the flat period continues. It would be awesome if it did.

I let the phone idle for another 24h and even though I restricted battery usage for more apps/services, the idle consumption did not change.
I'll try Better Battery Stats now.

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TomKay said:
I let the phone idle for another 24h and even though I restricted battery usage for more apps/services, the idle consumption did not change.
I'll try Better Battery Stats now.
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That's odd. What's your software number?

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Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241
Three updates more current than your .197 version.
I would have thought that if Google Play services were at fault, GSam Battery Monitor would have showed that. But perhaps not. I'll see whether BBS will provide any better clues. I could also try to disable Google Play services (just for diagnosing purposes), but I'm not sure that would result in any useful data, as many apps complain, if one disables Google Play services completely.
I suspect the difference between your idle consumption and mine is the firmware version. I've disabled/restricted so many apps/services, I doubt the phone would run normally now. So far, no culprit has been identified.

TomKay said:
Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241
Three updates more current than your .197 version.
I would have thought that if Google Play services were at fault, GSam Battery Monitor would have showed that. But perhaps not. I'll see whether BBS will provide any better clues. I could also try to disable Google Play services (just for diagnosing purposes), but I'm not sure that would result in any useful data, as many apps complain, if one disables Google Play services completely.
I suspect the difference between your idle consumption and mine is the firmware version. I've disabled/restricted so many apps/services, I doubt the phone would run normally now. So far, no culprit has been identified.
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It's going to be the firmware then, or maybe even an app you've installed. I'm currently on 44% battery, with 9 hours 41 mins SOT, 1 days 2 hours off charge

Thanos88 said:
It's going to be the firmware then, or maybe even an app you've installed. I'm currently on 44% battery, with 9 hours 41 mins SOT, 1 days 2 hours off charge
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I think I can exclude any user apps, since,
1. The issue is the same if I start the phone in "Safe mode" (disables all user apps).
2. GSam Battery Monitor would have reported high usage by an app.
The battery consumers are the OS and motion sensors.
I turned off "Lift phone to check" (or similar) and the phone indeed does not activate the lock screen when I move it while the screen is dark. The phone stills faintly shows the fingerprint area if I move it, so some motion detection must be going on. I don't think this behaviour can be disabled, or can it?

TomKay said:
I think I can exclude any user apps, since,
1. The issue is the same if I start the phone in "Safe mode" (disables all user apps).
2. GSam Battery Monitor would have reported high usage by an app.
The battery consumers are the OS and motion sensors.
I turned off "Lift phone to check" (or similar) and the phone indeed does not activate the lock screen when I move it while the screen is dark. The phone stills faintly shows the fingerprint area if I move it, so some motion detection must be going on. I don't think this behaviour can be disabled, or can it?
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The fingerprint motion can be switched off in the settings however, it's probably the firmware that's causing the main issue imo

Thanos88 said:
The fingerprint motion can be switched off in the settings however, it's probably the firmware that's causing the main issue imo
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where in the settings can be turned off fingerprint motion ?

luki2411 said:
where in the settings can be turned off fingerprint motion ?
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Not sure if it's just me or they've removed that option looks like it can't be removed but I surely that motion can't be the battery culprit. It has to be the firmware