Terrible battery life - WhatsApp the culprit? - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

Hello Forum,
I've been experiencing terrible battery life for these days. I have minimal apps installed on my phone and with background apps killed, I still loose approximately 10% per hour even while I am sleeping. One thing I observed though that WhatsApp for some reason runs in the background despite not being open in the background and restricted too. Could someone please review the attached screenshots and share your views? Thanks in advance!

Can you also take a screenshot of full device usage ?
You can get that by 3 dots in battery usage page, maybe google play services is responsible which means you need root or adb permisson'd battery programs.

Even if you restrict background usage, WhatsApp will mask itself as a foreground app and keep running to fetch it's messages. Honestly speaking, iPhone is way more optimised for these kinds of things.

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[Q] Detailed App Battery Usage in Kitkat?

My only real exposure to android has been through my Samsung Galaxy S3, LG G2 and now my N7. While a lot is different, there are many things that are similar. One big question I have is around battery life and what is using my battery. The details seem very limited on my G7 with Kitkat.. Broad categories like Screen, Android OS, etc. No apps are listed though (ie Clash of Clans, etc).
My battery life has just sucked since I bought this and it seems like screen and media server are the major consumers. Not sure if game play is coming under media server or not, but no individual apps are being listed and I can't seem to change the duration that the displayed average is over (like a forced reset to check usage only from that time forward).
Is there something I am missing? Can I get the detailed info per app? What about resetting the stats so I can get a picture over a specific period of time on what is using it?
Thank you for the help.
John
Unfortunately getting detailed app usage would require a separate battery monitoring app, which none work with Kitkat due to changes under the hood to a service that they all relied on. A possible fix for the media server is clearing gallery data and cache and let it all reload. Sometimes i think it gets stuck and endlessly tries to load stuff ( i don't have much experience on that particular battery drain). The way to reset the battery usage time is fully charge it, that resets the stats. Sometimes just a reboot will reset them as well, but it's usually a hit and miss. If you play any heavy duty games like modern combat, real racing, gt racing, etc, those will eat up a good amount of battery when played a lot. Something else you can check is location services, they can sometimes cause unnecessary drain. I keep those off since i don't use the tablet for GPS.

[Q] Battery Life

I'm sure another battery life thread exist but the search function is not working for some odd reason.
Anyhow, I recently bought this device(32 GB) model on Ebay and it is a refurbished edition. I updated it to the latest 4.4.2 and the device is amazing. However, one issue that disappoints me is the battery life. It lasts around 5-6 hours if I'm constantly browsing the web and watching videos. To charge it, it takes a good 7 hours. I looked at the battery and noticed that Android OS was responsible for 56% of the battery drainage. I notice the back of tablet(near the camera) getting very hot when I was playing some games as well.
I'm really trying to push this things to the limits to check to see if it's faulty so I can return it before the 14 days is up. My questions are, what is the typical battery life you users experience and how long does it usually take you users to charge it? Also, my Android OS has never taken up that much battery---is this normal? If not, how can I fix it?
Thanks!
Streaming videos kills battery in general but that's still high battery usage for Android OS. I suggest you invest BetterBatteryStats from the play store and see if something else is causing your battery drain. Post some screen shots when you get the app. I
My Android OS battery utilization is sitting at 7% at the moment. I don't stream much data, and but I think high Android OS battery utilization has more to do with background data than video or music streaming anyway
Few things to improve battery life in general is to disable location reporting and location history in GPS menu. Better yet, but disable GPS in general. Turn off the setting in the advanced wifi menu that let's apps scan wifi even if it's off for location data. Google+ and hangouts are big drainers... Disable or unistall them is you can or at least don't let them sync data. Go to Google account setting and disable syncing of anything you don't needs.
Edit: I just stream 1.5hrs (1.3gb data) of Netflix and my Android OS battery usage didn't go up. It's gotta be a rogue process taking CPU cycles/checking location/sending lots of data. Install BBS and see what's causing it. More than 7hrs of screen time for me today and I still have 25% battery left.
@streetenigma23 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742745
Usage = 10hrs
Charge Time = 4-5hrs.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I will go ahead and d/l that app and see how it goes. I'll put up some screenshots and try to see if we can get to the bottom of it.

High Background Load / Battery Drain?

I figured that even in standby the Tab S does consume too much battery (5-10% per hour). And a times gets unresponsive and warm. Seamingly there are some processes producing background load. Probably media indexing, syncing, etc. Probably WhatsApp, Facebook, google+
I would like to check, which processes/apps are responsible and in case change configuration or deinstall.
So which is the best tool to track suspicious processes/apps?
Or is there a list of apps that are known to be resource hogs?
I got the impression that the build in monitor (via settings/battery) does not report correctly. I get 60-65% Display, plus 10-20% Android System, all the rest is rather minor. But battery capacity runs down rather quickly even when display is off, so these numbers seem to be not plausible.
Just fresh reboot and youll see touchwiz consumes 2GB of ram
Theres some power consuming background process. Mine idles at 3 hours and will still be the same percentage. I used to have 1.2gig of used RAM on idle time. You may want to install 'quick system info' to monitor app activities

Battery drain fix

Noticing your Galaxy S6 battery is draining too fast? This thread can help.
Part of the problem lies within a memory leak which is a known problem that Samsung is aware of and is reportedly patching in an upcoming update.
The other issue is Samsung attempts to load everything into memory and run several services in the background as well as hard loading the phone with bloatware.
Here is how I gained 30% better battery performance. Guaranteed
*Prerequisites
*Need to be rooted for every tip to work.
1. Disable anything you consider bloatware
2. Go to settings then application manager and disable both ANT radio service apps. You don't need this. Causes massive battery drain. Google it if you don't believe me.
3. Go to the app store and download "Servicely" from Franco. Paid app but worth the money...trust me. (Need root)
4. Once in servicely add running services and apps to your hit list, choose start at boot and run hit list while screen is off.
5. Reboot your phone. Give your phone a full charge and see the difference
Attached is a screenshot of realistic usage. I was on a poor lte signal for 9 hours and conducted several calls and used my phone moderately heavy. As you can see i got through my entire work day and still have 6 hours left at moderately heavy use.
Remember, this is realistic. I could have shown you a screenshot showing 18 hours left after only using it 1 hour. What I'm showing is a legit 9 hours of usage. Before I made these tweaks I would be at 10% battery or less after nine hours of the same usage.
Post your screenshots after 24-48 hours and let's see how much you are saving.
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This will be great for those that have the battery drain problem when safe root is achieved.
I got good results just disabling all the junk apps without root.
Waiting for safe root.
Pp.

Battery drain by Google..

Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
Subham jyoti said:
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
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This one?
winol said:
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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Can you guide me what needs to be done with these apps? I never seen so much battery drain due to google app on my previous phones
atrix4nag said:
This one?
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Thnx. Yeah it's same like me. I don't know why it keeps running in the background
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
willcor said:
Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I don't want to do factory reset. I will try with other options first.
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Same happened to me. What I did was to delete Data from Play services app, then I deleted cache from phone an voila. I have all sync and functional.
Ps. I charge my phone to 90% and I can get 5-6 SOT at 30% left everyday.
The issue op mentioned is not about google play services, it is about the google app instead I think
The problem is I don't think any batter stat apps can get low enough level stats to indicate what is using the Google app in the background to determine what is causing the drain. Usually, the culprit is an app frequently using location service (your GPS) to check your location which I believe the Android location service coordinates for apps other than the native Android/Google apps are obtained through the Google app in the background. That latter point is purely a guess because as we all know the Google app is a "multipurpose" app and you can't see detailed enough battery usage to determine what function of the app is being used that causes battery drain.
On my S10 5G, for the first 2 weeks I've used it, Google never was in the top 5, taking like 1-2% over the course of a day. Then seemingly all the sudden, it was #1, consuming like close to 1% an hour in the background. So I think, what did I change recently? I enabled Google Discover, but set the option to mae it update less fequently (6 hours) to reduce battery (the option actually says this will reduce battery usage). It didn't make a difference. So I disabled Google Discover and installed Google News instead. My Google app battery usage is lower now. About 0.9% per hour (all background usage of course). I think for most people that's good, but not when you were used to it being more like 0.1-0.2% an hour before.
I think the bottom line is if you want to use more features on your phone you have to live with a bump in battery usage. The 4500 mAh battery on my S10 5G lasts me abotu 1.5 days. LOL. But I don't play games or check Facebook/Instragram all day. Just a few texts, weather alerts, maybe an hour or two of browsing. Mabe an hour total of talk time. So relative to other people I should be less concerned if my phone is lasting well over a day on a charge, actually close to 2 days many times. I know a lot of other more "frequent users" (probably a lot of people younger than myself) that are on social media a lot and or listening to music/watching videos would kill to have their phones last 20-48 hours without having to charge.
Still, I keep an eye on things and it bugs me Google has jumped up. A great app to use is Accubattery and monitor the "SCREEN OFF" discharge rate. You're not actively using apps when the sceen is off so this gives you a good idea of your total background battery usage. You can make changes to settings, charge your for for a while, and let several hours pass, then check the screen off discharge rate and compare it to other discharge periods before you made the settings to determine if the changes you made had much of an effect.
Of course background usage isn't going to be 100% consistent, so the longer you measure the better, as if you look at it over like a 1 hour period, it could be certain apps were just more or less active during that particular hour. But if you compare like half day or more (6+ hour) periods to previous periods, you can get a good gauge if apps setting changes or newly installed apps are eating more battery in the background.
I disable Google feedfack, all their data collecting junk and their data backup too. Google is a pig.
Some blocked Google apks like Playstore are enabled as needed.
Even when Framework and Google Transport are blocked it's sometimes periodically necessary to clear their data to get them from using excessive cpu cycles.
Battery Tracker reports Google Framework running when AOD is on but it's likely misreading as long as battery draw remains at around 1%@hour while phone is screen off.
I'm running on Pie... who knows what Q will do.
Most likely make a bigger mess.

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