I've installed battery monitor widget, that gives battery graph in 1% resolution.
While idle (at night) I see a 1% consumption every hour and half.
Occasionally I see a higher consumption rate of about 1% every 45 minutes, always while idle.
I'm tring to pinpoint the guilty application. Using the built in android battery statistics seems to be of no use: consumption seems to be too low to be counted against other categories like screen, wifi or telephone itself.
So far I've proceeded by chance: I tried killing suspected apps and seeing battery graph after that.
Right now i've got a couple of suspects: vital player and open gps tracker.
Even if they are not in use (movie stopped and gps disabled) they seems to eat some more battery than the average background app.
Is there a more scientific approach?
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Watchdog Task Killer. Set it on real time and you may track down the app.
http://lifehacker.com/#!5608163/watchdog-monitors-your-android-for-run+away-processes
Or, from the same people as Battery Monitor Widget, a Process Monitor Widget. Remember to freeze both after you are done as they both drink battery juice to do their useful job.
+1 for Watchdog. SetVsel is also very good at undervolting; if you're into that sort of thing.
I've had this battery for several months now and I'm just now starting to wonder why my battery life is so abysmal as compared to others with it. It'll probably last around 18-20 hours a day with about a half hour of music playing through Winamp, JuiceDefender, Lookout, and Tasker running constantly, an 100-800 core clock, and low brightness.
Somehow, I think I should be getting better battery life. It has been similar to this regardless of what ROM I use.
Do you all think it's the battery or just the phone?
Obviously, I'm unable to return it. I would just like to know what others think.
Kanojo said:
I've had this battery for several months now and I'm just now starting to wonder why my battery life is so abysmal as compared to others with it. It'll probably last around 18-20 hours a day with about a half hour of music playing through Winamp, JuiceDefender, Lookout, and Tasker running constantly, an 100-800 core clock, and low brightness.
Somehow, I think I should be getting better battery life. It has been similar to this regardless of what ROM I use.
Do you all think it's the battery or just the phone?
Obviously, I'm unable to return it. I would just like to know what others think.
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POSSIBLE ISSUES:
(Answering these yourself should help pin point the problem just by re-reading your own answers)
- How "old" is the battery?
- What are your min/max CPU frequencies?
- What services are running in the background?
- Did you have this problem on the stock battery?
- What app do you mainly use?
- Does that app drain battery?
Kanojo said:
It'll probably last around 18-20 hours a day with about a half hour of music playing through Winamp, JuiceDefender, Lookout, and Tasker running constantly, an 100-800 core clock, and low brightness.
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With optimal settings and unnecessary ram hogging apps removed, you should be able to get more hours than that on the original battery half the size.
JuiceDefender should be unnecessary and I found it to inhibit me more than it proved useful.
Lookout is neat, and I do like it, but as I don't see a huge need for it I don't have it installed.
My personal favorite task killer is Advanced Task Killer which I use to cleanup my phone before locking it, you know, close the various apps I just opened . However, I have disallowed it from auto-killing, as this has proved detrimental and in vain when services killed generally immediately restart themselves and consume less battery than the auto killing program attempting to kill them.
A good check on certain apps is to go to Manage Applications under Settings and check your running apps. About 1-2 minutes after a good task kill, check to see which apps have restarted. If any you recognize are running that you didn't start, you may consider removing them. Especially anything that tries to access location services.
Edit: Almost forgot, I don't use any widgets except for Task Killer and Power Control. All others drained more battery than I cared for, and this I tested extensively.
Hello,
Since the latest update I feel my battery life is significantly worse. I would like to compare the idle current draw I have with others, who have similar usage patterns to me.
My idle current (Battery Monitor Widget, idle meaning of course when the screen is off and nothing in particular is left in the background) fluctuates around 50mA which pretty much sucks. This means I lose around 3-4% every hour, and with even moderate use (about 40 minutes of kindle on the bus twice a day, some calls and minor browsing) I barely last a day.
This happens either on 3G or my home WiFi, roughly the same draw. My phone is completely stock and unrooted. I have background data on, with google, facebook and whatsapp accounts, set to push where possible (gmail for instance). I use no alternate launcher or lock screen and very little third party widgets.
I reflashed three times and nothing helped. I tried 4.X global, 4.X UK and finally 3.X French and OTA to 4.X, all the same. I also tried on advice to set network to WCDMA only and it didn't help.
I realize I have a lot of stuff "on" but nevertheless I feel my battery performed a lot better before the update. Also, my brother has a SGS II and he also has background data on. His idle currents are around 10mA only as far as I could notice. His battery performs a lot better despite the more powerful hardware.
So, is this a problem with version 4.X or my usage patterns?
I'd appreciate if people with similar usage to mine could post their idle currents for comparison, in particular people still on 3.X.
Thanks.
I will give you my own observations but I have no app that show the exact current used.
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Kernel: DoomLord v10
Data disabled
I live in an area with 2G coverage only and it will only consume 1% per 3 hours, after 15 hours of no use it had consumed 5%. It is a bit higher under 3G coverage, around 1-2 hours per 1%. That tells me that no system or user processes are running in the background consuming power.
It will consume much more power when you are moving around in a 3G coverage area, all the location area updates will increase the radio activity and power consumption as high as 4-5% an hour when you have been driving constantly. This should be the same for all devices I would guess.
I allways keep data disabled due to my very limited data plan and to conserve battery, I will just shortly activate data and my deviced would automatically sync all my accounts. I have Moxier active sync client installed to sync my work email, calender, tasks and contacts, and having this running with push and data active will consume 4-5% an hour.
There is one exemption to the above, I need to reboot my phone evertime having played ps1 games with the FPSE emulator. The phone starts consuming 5% an hour and my battery history log show the system process as consuming as much as 30-40% of the battery. This happens everytime I have used the FPSE emulator, you might have something similar with your phone with other apps, the FPSE process is not running and I have no clue what is causing this.
My only real exposure to android has been through my Samsung Galaxy S3, LG G2 and now my N7. While a lot is different, there are many things that are similar. One big question I have is around battery life and what is using my battery. The details seem very limited on my G7 with Kitkat.. Broad categories like Screen, Android OS, etc. No apps are listed though (ie Clash of Clans, etc).
My battery life has just sucked since I bought this and it seems like screen and media server are the major consumers. Not sure if game play is coming under media server or not, but no individual apps are being listed and I can't seem to change the duration that the displayed average is over (like a forced reset to check usage only from that time forward).
Is there something I am missing? Can I get the detailed info per app? What about resetting the stats so I can get a picture over a specific period of time on what is using it?
Thank you for the help.
John
Unfortunately getting detailed app usage would require a separate battery monitoring app, which none work with Kitkat due to changes under the hood to a service that they all relied on. A possible fix for the media server is clearing gallery data and cache and let it all reload. Sometimes i think it gets stuck and endlessly tries to load stuff ( i don't have much experience on that particular battery drain). The way to reset the battery usage time is fully charge it, that resets the stats. Sometimes just a reboot will reset them as well, but it's usually a hit and miss. If you play any heavy duty games like modern combat, real racing, gt racing, etc, those will eat up a good amount of battery when played a lot. Something else you can check is location services, they can sometimes cause unnecessary drain. I keep those off since i don't use the tablet for GPS.
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
Subham jyoti said:
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
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This one?
winol said:
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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Can you guide me what needs to be done with these apps? I never seen so much battery drain due to google app on my previous phones
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This one?
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Thnx. Yeah it's same like me. I don't know why it keeps running in the background
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
willcor said:
Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I don't want to do factory reset. I will try with other options first.
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Same happened to me. What I did was to delete Data from Play services app, then I deleted cache from phone an voila. I have all sync and functional.
Ps. I charge my phone to 90% and I can get 5-6 SOT at 30% left everyday.
The issue op mentioned is not about google play services, it is about the google app instead I think
The problem is I don't think any batter stat apps can get low enough level stats to indicate what is using the Google app in the background to determine what is causing the drain. Usually, the culprit is an app frequently using location service (your GPS) to check your location which I believe the Android location service coordinates for apps other than the native Android/Google apps are obtained through the Google app in the background. That latter point is purely a guess because as we all know the Google app is a "multipurpose" app and you can't see detailed enough battery usage to determine what function of the app is being used that causes battery drain.
On my S10 5G, for the first 2 weeks I've used it, Google never was in the top 5, taking like 1-2% over the course of a day. Then seemingly all the sudden, it was #1, consuming like close to 1% an hour in the background. So I think, what did I change recently? I enabled Google Discover, but set the option to mae it update less fequently (6 hours) to reduce battery (the option actually says this will reduce battery usage). It didn't make a difference. So I disabled Google Discover and installed Google News instead. My Google app battery usage is lower now. About 0.9% per hour (all background usage of course). I think for most people that's good, but not when you were used to it being more like 0.1-0.2% an hour before.
I think the bottom line is if you want to use more features on your phone you have to live with a bump in battery usage. The 4500 mAh battery on my S10 5G lasts me abotu 1.5 days. LOL. But I don't play games or check Facebook/Instragram all day. Just a few texts, weather alerts, maybe an hour or two of browsing. Mabe an hour total of talk time. So relative to other people I should be less concerned if my phone is lasting well over a day on a charge, actually close to 2 days many times. I know a lot of other more "frequent users" (probably a lot of people younger than myself) that are on social media a lot and or listening to music/watching videos would kill to have their phones last 20-48 hours without having to charge.
Still, I keep an eye on things and it bugs me Google has jumped up. A great app to use is Accubattery and monitor the "SCREEN OFF" discharge rate. You're not actively using apps when the sceen is off so this gives you a good idea of your total background battery usage. You can make changes to settings, charge your for for a while, and let several hours pass, then check the screen off discharge rate and compare it to other discharge periods before you made the settings to determine if the changes you made had much of an effect.
Of course background usage isn't going to be 100% consistent, so the longer you measure the better, as if you look at it over like a 1 hour period, it could be certain apps were just more or less active during that particular hour. But if you compare like half day or more (6+ hour) periods to previous periods, you can get a good gauge if apps setting changes or newly installed apps are eating more battery in the background.
I disable Google feedfack, all their data collecting junk and their data backup too. Google is a pig.
Some blocked Google apks like Playstore are enabled as needed.
Even when Framework and Google Transport are blocked it's sometimes periodically necessary to clear their data to get them from using excessive cpu cycles.
Battery Tracker reports Google Framework running when AOD is on but it's likely misreading as long as battery draw remains at around 1%@hour while phone is screen off.
I'm running on Pie... who knows what Q will do.
Most likely make a bigger mess.