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I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
Yeah, I need some help too. I get about a day and a half with no use at all, and about 10 hours with minimal use. 4 hours with real world usage... I can't deal with this. Could it be the battery? It performs like a 1 year old, used, refurb battery came with a stock phone!
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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masaidjet said:
I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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all of these... biggest one is to turn off data when the phone is in your pocket. use wifi when u can, avoid using 4g unless plugged in, configure the battery in recovery (i've actually notice that this helps less than anything else for me), and finally: get an extended battery. it's worth the extra hours u can squeeze out of it. don't expect more than 4-5 hours screen on time with any rom/kernel/modem combo with a stock battery.
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Yeah I also did that wipe battery stats at recovery.
I just thought maybe my expectations were too high, although it seems as if my battery drains drop pretty fast.
I would say about -10% battery drop every hour, just checking the time and send/receive text messages. Occasionally I surf the Web on the phone when on break at work. Other than that the phone is in my pocket, and after my 9 hour workday my phone demands the charger.
This is with the stock battery, so I guess this is normal unless I'm using the extended battery?
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u could also run a kernel that allows for over (under) clocking/undervolting. that helps some, too
get the duricell portable battery extender, add milliamps to your arsinal in one way or another with extended batterys or whatever, if you call sprint and complain loudly and dickly they will rebate you the cost that u spend on a new battery or batt extender whatever... that being said all the above options work great, u can also use night mode on chainfire 3d to save battery, or perhaps half your pixel rate, or perhapes turn off some colors (havent seen an app to do this yet) and reset your battery memory in cwm, kill ur batt, charg while off, then cycle again like that. (theres an app for that) if your not rooted, root your phone. if you dont want to root your phone, cycle ur battery the old fasion way or pop it into a rooted phone and do it.
I used to get really poor battery life (due to my phone not sleeping as evidenced by Spare Parts app). I rooted, used Titanium Backup to freeze various apps, and got an Zboost antenna booster for the office and called Sprint who sent me an Airave for the house. I wiped battery stats and cleared my Dalvic cache and the thing the finally got me right was finding out the Amazon MP3 app was still logged in though not running. Once I made sure I was logged out of that and Lattitude (Google Map feature) and Facebook, I haven't had any problem with a sleeping phone. Stock Froyo, standard battery, but rooted. When they say a bad app keeps your phone from sleeping I think they mean an app that requires log in...although this does not seem to be a problem if you stay logged in from a browser, only from an app!
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I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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You may be shooting yourself in the foot with some of those things. App killers aren't that useful on Gingerbread since they keep killing apps that just reload on their own, and every time the reload it uses power. Just because an app is loaded doesn't mean it is running. Try letting the system take care of it. Juice Defender may help a little but it keeps shutting down data and starting it up, which means you don't get as much usefulness out of the phone and may waste power in some circumstances.
See what you have set to sync. Turn off any autosyncs you don't need, like weather screens, facebook, etc. If at all possible set them to only sync when you open the program.
I use the exchange option for gmail using the stock samsung app, which gives me push email but doesn't have to keep polling the server. I don't know if that makes a difference compared to imap, but it works well for me. don't think you have that option in CM7.
Wifi is a much more efficient way transfer data than 3G, use it whenever you can, and set it to never sleep. Otherwise the 3G radio keeps starting up again and wasting battery.
You can freeze the DRM stuff if you don't use it. I don't know if it really makes a difference but everyone thinks it does, so I do it.
Having a black wallpaper helps a little because on a AMOLED screen a black pixel uses no power.
The biggest battery killer is being in a bad signal area. If you always have 0 or 1 bars then your phone is going to always be draining the battery trying to find a good cell. In that case Roam Control may help you.
That's about all I do, and with the latest Stock gingerbread EH17 and EI22 I'm sitting with about 40 to 50% left after 12 hours, that's with light to moderate use.
I've been through the ringer with this. I'm pretty comfortable now, routinely managing to have 33% of battery left after 12hrs w/3g always on, sync always on, intermittent music listening, 2.5-3hrs of gaming and general "screen on" time (auto brightness), 1.1 GHz OC, no undervolting, and GPS always on. Here's what I'd suggest:
Flash a ROM w/ NO CIQ (thanks k0nane!) - In addition to being a leech on your privacy it's a leech on your battery. It's old news to long-time Epic owners at this point, but ditching CIQ improves battery life and overall responsiveness of the Epic. A popular stable Froyo ROM for this is SFR 1.2.
Minimize always-running services - Long press your homescreen, select "shortcuts," select "settings," and select "running services." Tap this to see what's running ongoing services (not apps) your phone is running. All of these are drawing current to stay in RAM. Things like Juice Defender, Tasker, and others show up here and draw power in doing so. JD and Tasker especially can drain a lot because they perform constant tasks as well. Uninstall them and let your phone manage itself.
The same goes for task managers and app-stoppers - Froyo and above does this fine on it's own
Freeze/Uninstall system services you don't use - This includes things like Sprint voicemail, the "Email" app, and the "SprintAndroidExtension.apk," and SNS services. You'll most likely find these on the "Running Services Page" as well. You can Titanium Backup to uninstall them, but I recommend the SDX Stock App Remover as that can restore them (TB can't reliably). TB can freeze these as well, which accomplishes basically the same thing. SNS is connected to Facebook, so if you use that a lot you might want to keep it. DRM services can also be removed, but may cause problems reading the SD card. I stay away from it.
Use Spare Parts to monitor wakelock and CPU usage - If you notice something giving you persistent trouble, shut it down. This is time-consuming, but you'll get a good feel for what apps are out there to accomplish similar tasks and which one best suits your needs.
Uninstall apps you don't use - Next time you wipe and flash a new ROM, reinstall or restore backed up apps as you need to use them and not all at once. You may find you don't need quite a few of them, allowing you to keep more space open on your phone and requiring less current to maintain them
Don't charge the battery overnight - most phones can reach capacity in 2-4 hours depending on charge level. Beyond that, holding at or around fully charged will degrade the battery by denying it the ability to release the stored energy. I charge mine in the evening a few hours before bed and top it off in the morning before leaving for work.
Get an 1800mAh battery sold for the Epic Touch - this is what moved me form "getting by" to "definitely comfortable." For around $25 (incl shipping) on ebay, I've gotten a new lease on my Epic's life. It may seem like cheating to bring in a new battery, but it makes a lot of difference WITHOUT adding more bulge to your phone (makes it a tad heavier though).
Hope this helps. Remember, of course, that what works for one phone won't necessarily work for another. Despite being the same model, minor imperfections in silicone can create individual temperaments for each phone.
I as always trying to make my battery last by stopping this and uninstalling that. Then I thought; why did I buy this phone with all of these capabilities to turn them all off
So, something like the "Hyperion Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G 2 x Battery + Charger" (too "young" to post a direct link)
Would fit in/work with the Epic 4G (without needing a new cover)? Even though its for the Touch?
Lol, I've been doing many of the suggestions across the board, and have gotten much better results. But I'm still not "comfortable" with my battery strength, especially when I'm unable to charge my phone all day...
Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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SNSservice is a Facebook and Feeds and Updates Widget service. ALWAYS stop it. It does not matter to Facebook, even if you use it, but if you remove the Feeds and Updates Widget on one of your screens, that service continues to search for it and will kill your battery in a matter of hours (it starts a "restarting" loop). Either leave the widget on or kill this service after every reboot or if you are rooted, freeze it along with DRM service.
My other battery tips are to log out or sign out of every app such as Lattitude, Facebook, Amazon MP3 (it's ok to use them, but don't just back/exit out, actually sign out of them so you have to log back in next time). Apparently, staying signed in causes your phone to not sleep and you can't find what is causing it (i.e. you can't see it "running" anywhere...people call it a misbehaving app, and you would have to delete apps one at a time to find it by trial and error).
So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
You could try using Bloat Freezer to freeze apps. I have alot of the acer stuff frozen, and with it in standby, easily goes a day. Things like socialjogger, acer init, etc.
These are the apps I've completely removed from system apps, made a backup of course..
AcerClockwidget.apk&odex
Agendawidget.apk&odex
Aupeo.apk
Clearfi.apk
DTG.apk
LinkToFacebook.apk&odex
MusicA.apk&odex
MyLocationWidget.apk&odex
NemoPlayer.apk
Planner.apk
SocialJogger.apk
Solitaire.apk
Xt9.apk
You can also remove appinapp butyou will loose the games multimedia app I use that so kept it.
Battery life hasn't been that bad on mine. I expected worse, I just picked mine up last week and after reading reading reviews I expected worse.
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So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
That's what I was thinking. I get a decent amount of usage from it; it's when I'm not using it is when I feel like it drains the most.
I started freezing apps last night and let it charge overnight. I've still got to go through my apps and remove a few I don't use, and check to make sure they're not syncing too often. Do you all leave your gps and wifi on all of the time or have them shut off while the tablet sleeps?
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WOW! I can use mine all off and on all day and don't have a problem. There has got to be an app that you are using that is destroying your battery when idle. If I don't use my tablet all day, it will last 2 full days (with wifi kept on).
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My settings are to never turn WiFi off and I always leave sync on; I like getting notifications and app updates. I have a weather app that updates every hour and Pulse news that updates every 4 hours.
I also always leave my GPS on, but there aren't many apps that use it while it is not in focus, so I rarely ever see GPS pop up on my battery usage list.
I do not use a live wallpaper.
I found that with wifi on, my tablet drains about 1.5% per hour when idle.
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So I think by now everyone has realized the battery life on our A100's is mediocre. I've actually been pretty content with the usage I get out of mine. What I'm not so thrilled about though is the idle usage. I'll leave for work in the morning with my A100 at / above 90% battery and come home after 6pm with it completely dead. I have wifi set to turn off when the screen does, any app I have that has a sync option is set to 6+ hours, and I've stopped using live wallpapers. Every other electronic device I have can usually last a full day when not in use(my old netbook gets 3 hours of use on battery but 2 days while sleeping).
I've started looking into the "bloat" / OEM apps installed by Acer. Nidus, sync, socialjogger etc... My main questions are; what can be removed, what can I live without or would be better of with a 3rd party app, and which Acer apps can possibly be causing the idle/sleep battery drain? This thing should still last a full day while sleeping, shouldn't it?
Any suggestions? Anyone else have this issue? Thanks!
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I suggest other than setting wifi to turn off when screen is off is to use a wifi toggle widget. You really never know what happens when the screen is off if your wifi is really turning off. Wish it was built in to the quick launch though like some Honeycomb tablet.
You can also use setcpu to setup profiles so that when the screen is off the processor stays at a slower speed rather than jumping into high gear when something wakes it up to sync. I've been able to go days without having to recharge (but I only use it for reading books, listening to the music I have on google music and play order and chaos every once in a while). I havn't touched my a100 in about 4 days and its sitting at 62% battery power.
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here is my usage, I never turn off wifi no profiles
I don't necessarily think you need to remove any of the stock app. My wifi is set to turn off when screen is off, GPS off unless I need it (apps like facebook will use it when you open it since it tries to get your location for checking in even if you're not checking in). Gmail is left at default but other mail is set to never (I just manually sync it when I open it).
If you wanna go a step further, you can install a wifi on/off widget to completely turn it off just incase an app is trying to use wifi.
With my setting my battery drains about 1-1.5% an hour when screen is off. IMO the screen is what uses the most battery. However though after conditioning the battery for 3 cycles it's been lasting longer.
I was just about ready to return / exchange my a100 so I did a factory reset on it. Lost track of time and forgot to, so I just decided to boot it back up and play with it. Left it alone at around 70% yesterday afternoon, came back home at 7pm today and to my surprise it was at 40% battery remaining. Must've been an app or setting I had that was killing it.
Probably end up hanging onto this awhile longer. Great tablet for the money!
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thats more like it glad you got it back to normal.
Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
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Guys i want the slimmest acer iconia rom possible please update the list? I just dont use much stock apps at all.
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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Also can freezing apps brick your tab as well? Or does it defrost itself after boot?
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I think with the 1gb ram on our device there shouldnt be a need to freeze any app and it doesnt defrost itself on reboot. Atleast it shouldnt.
Also I found for the most part if an app can be deleted it will let you delete it by dragging the app icon in the upper right in the app drawer. This is probably the safest way to delete rather than doing it in root explorer or TU.
This might be a dumb question but is it possible you have wifi issue that i've had on 2 a100s which will prob cause it to use more battery as its trying to work harder locking on.
It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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It seems for the moment my battery issue was resolved with a factory reset. I have nearly the same apps on it now as before and my a100 hasn't been dying overnight. Don't believe I've frozen anything this time around either.
I don't think ram has a whole lot to do with it. I just figured some of these apps were starting themselves or syncing often, causing the battery drain.
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Do you have a lot of widgets that requires syncing like youtube, twitter, weather, facebook? Those are the apps you probably what to check. OR you can just turn off wifi if youre not surfing or streaming.
Here's mine with wifi turned off. It was at 89 but I had to turn on wifi so I can find a screen capture app in the market. I have lots of apps including facebook, twitter, weather widget, which cant sync cause the wifi is off. Have not removed any stock app. I know this doesn't really answer what you asked but I'm just thinking something else might be wrong other than apps. Maybe its your battery not holding correct charge. Have you tried calibrating the battery?
I tried calibrating the battery the first time around. This time (after the reset) I haven't done anything special and have so far been getting 2 days of idle/light use before needing a charge. Satisfied so far. I was mainly concerned that I wouldn't be able to go on a trip without it needing a charge while sitting in my bag for a day without use.
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I know this horse has been beat to death, I'm just hoping I can get maybe one bit of info that will help me resolve this issue before I just swap out to another phone. I really don't want to, but I'm just so sick of being chained to a charging cord all day. My phone should be able to hold a charge for at least 1 day, I don't even use it that much!
So with my little tirade out of the way, let me give you the facts I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II/SPH-D710, and the battery just drains down so fast, and the phone's barely 6 months old. I've downloaded numerous process monitoring apps, designed to see what's going on, and they all point at WiFi being the culprit. The phone never hits deep sleep because the wireless is keeping it awake. Sure enough if I turn WiFi off and I go 3G/4G all day my battery is fine. Problem is I can't get to that next level and find out what program or process is causing the WiFi to be on all the time. Even more frustrating, every time there's an upgrade like FI27 or FL24 which I'm on now, the battery works fine for a day or two. Then something kicks in and destroys the battery. My thought is it's got to be an app, I just don't know which one.
So before I kick this piece of **** out the window, I was hoping someone could please help me figure out what app/process is the cause of my battery drain.
Get DS Battery Saver. It will force all of your stuff off when you turn off the screen so that it will go into deep sleep.
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Get a new battery?
Apps, batteries, ics vodoo it's a host of things that can solve your battery drain issue. Being that your phone is 6 months old I have to rule out the battery. The fact that your on ics is going to be main culprit, stock ics was not the best at managing battery use. There's something revving the crap out of your Wi-Fi, while Wi-Fi is on even while your screen is off there are processes going on in the background that are using Wi-Fi to send receive, update, sync, you name it and all you need to do is pinpoint these processes.
Some apps in the play store can help, but some of these apps can consume battery also, so it's best to delete it after troubleshooting.
If your phone is working properly and your not a social media junkie while it sleeps it should not be using any battery at all, just enough to keep your processor awake.
I keep notifications are sync off on my phone, while I'm out and about I'll check email or do a quick sync if I want to check for some incoming whatever. Most of the time I want info on my terms, not every minute with chimes beeps or lights flashing.
If you use google maps disable background location reporting, location services just use "location and search " disable Wi-Fi and GPS usage for location services.
This is a start, but I recommend Jb ga10 stock/rooted to give your phone a stable os.
I run stock/rooted Jb de-bloated with minimal apps, no games (all the games I like are on my Galaxy Tab 10.1) I use my phone for calls........... navigation and media player while driving. I get 16 to 20 hrs on a charge.
Pp. :thumbup::beer:
Transmitted from another galaxy with a Jellybean infused P-5113 full of Unicorn porn.
I get about 20 hours on the Vanilla RootBox JB ROM. YMMV. I also had terrible battery life on the stock ROM and every other one I tried. This is the first ROM that's bested 10 hours. Again, YMMV.
what rom are you on? tw? cm?
Have you used Better Battery Stats? Or the JB release candidate GB08?
Not to raise the dead, I've just been busy, but this is still an issue for me. I upgraded to JB GB27, and I love the GUI, it’s such a step up from ICS. But I’m still getting **** for battery life. Yes if I use DS Battery Saver it works and I get good battery life. However all those programs cause flaky restart issues. The phone will just restart for no reason. More importantly it’s not getting at the root of the problem.
IRL I’m a computer tech and I can’t just let this go, as previously stated I’m tired of being shackled to the phone charger. I’ve swapped in a new battery, it’s not the battery. I even turned on the setting “Keep WiFi On > Only when plugged in”. That did improve the battery a little, but I still can’t make it through the day without being charged. I’m on the phone maybe combined 30min of phone calls, 30 min checking email, and an hour or so of miscellaneous watching video etc. I know heavy users that are on their phones all day, or let their kids watch Disney movies all night. I’m not that guy, I’ve had numerous cell phones and never have I had one that couldn’t hold a charge all day.
I will be diligent in monitoring this thread, please give me your troubleshooting tips and I’ll report back with the results.
Downlpaf betterbatterystats. And find the wakelocks.
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Can do, will let you know at the end of the day.
EDIT: Actually I read multiple issues with SG2 and BetterBatteryStats. However your wakelock comment made me stumble onto the app Wakelock Detector. Again I'll run it and report back. Thanks for the point in the right direction.
Ive noticed no better or worse battery between being rooted/custom rom and stock not rooted. However my phone gets about 16 hours on average. My friend has an epic as well and gets only 10 hours. I feel as though it depends on the user and apps. Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround. Best setup ive had so far is billgeryans Quattro Rom with ds and greenify. I pulled a whopping 25 hour minimal use before charge and 13 hour heavy use day.....
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Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround.
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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Thats what I do. This was a heavy use day on stock not rooted gb27
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.
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exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.
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How do you freeze them?
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How do you freeze them?
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With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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How do you freeze them?
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titanium can and you can create a widget to do it easily per app.
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app-quarantine in playstore
or what I do:
shell commands usind connectbot widgets with a command like this:
pm disable-user com.facebook.katana
pm enable com.facebook.katana
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so my 2 cents:
1) get a second battery and charger.
2) betterbatterystats to identify "bad" apps and either get rid of them or deal with them.
3) "autostarts" app to stop crap from auto starting on boot that you don't need running as a service.
4) dim screen! huge huge savings. keep it dim enough to use the phone.
Battery issues well I have a solution that won't solve but greatly helps. It's called greenify. It puts all running apps in hibernate mode. It's not like a task killer that just screws things up. U can choose what u want to hibernate and all that jazzy stuff. It's worth a shot. All in all if you want a bada$$ battery efficient rom go with wcx stock rooted rom. It's simply amazing. Hope I was at help
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Check out greenify if you're rooted. It removes all currently unused apps and processes from memory, essentially putting them into deep sleep. That combined with ds battery saver and watching your wake locks will drastically improve battery life:beer:
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With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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Okay so does Greenify do this freeze automatically, the interface is a little clumsy. I appreciate all the help guys.
UPDATE: Wanted to add from personal experience that these tricks all work on 4.4 KitKat ROMs. This information isn't stale
This guide should work for any Android phone running any ROM. (Though you do have to be rooted for most of these options. Nothing is THAT simple!)
The goal is to reduce your battery drain when your phone is idle. Nothing in this guide will improve your battery life when the phone is in use. But it will keep the battery from draining quickly (actually it will nearly keep it from draining at all) when the screen it off and the phone is not in use. And the battery savings can be extreme! As I write this guide my phone it has been 4 days, 15 hours, and 9 minutes since I last unplugged my Galaxy S4. I have 33% battery life remaining. You can have this too!
These fixes are not your typical "Lower screen brightness and delete carreir bloatware and disable auto syncing" tips. (Though all that stuff is still a good idea)
You can try all of these techniques or just some of them. Some of them will break features of your phone and might not be good options for you. Only you can decide if these fixes are right for you.
Special thanks for Mike216 and Penko956 for the endless research they did Greenifying, freezing, and disabling they did on just about every system and app on thier phone to see what all could be disabled. And to Torbitege who initially helped figure all this out with me for the HTC Sensation.
First off, what's using your battery?
If you're not already familiar with Better Battery Stats, fix that about yourself. Download it. Use it. Love it.
This app will run in the background constantly monitoring what's using your system resources 24 hours a day. It will tell you what apps are causing wakelocks, which are waking the device, etc etc etc.
The app won't do anything to help your battery life. But it will give you the information you need to adjust problematic apps.
Wakelocks and Battery Drain caused by Google Services
The battery saving impact is major.
This is my personal favorite battery saving technique. But it's not right for everyone, so read thoroughly.
Basically Google thinks your phone belongs to Google. Google Services runs A LOT even when you're not using the phone. This causes a ton of wakelocks and wake ups that use battery. I hate that. So I stopped it with a simple mod to the Google Services Framework.
Here's how....
This is a good old fashioned dirty fix, as it breaks some things. Most push notifications WILL NOT WORK AFTER DOING THIS!!!!! So this is not for everyone!!!! You've been warned. Please don't complain later in the thread that you aren't getting new mail or Twitter or whatever notifications after doing this. You're being told up front they will probably not work.
GTalk and GoogleNow (and maybe a few other things) will not work after doing this. Push notifications for any Google apps will also not work. They are casualties of the dirty fix. But if you're like me and never use GTalk or GNow this will help. Some other Google services might not work after this either. But if you're like me and the only Google service you use is the Play Store app, this will not affect you adversely. (Gmail and Google Maps run independantly of the Google Services framework and are not affected at all by this.)
Use this version of the fix for older Google Service Framework installs. You will know if you have a newer version if doing this install doesnt' prevent your wifi and data icons from turning blue (or whatever color your theme uses). If they turn blue, use the newer version below....
You need to download System Tuner from Google Play. The app will tell you to get Android Tuner instead. Don't do it. It doesn't have what you need. The icon is a blue suitcase with tools on it. Thats' the one you want.
First I froze GTalk and Gnow (Google Search). And no, you can't just freeze those two apps without touching the GSF. The GSF will still create wakelocks when trying to activate them even if they are not there. So you have to modify the GSF as well.
Go to System Tuner and select "Start Ups".
Then pick the Google Services Framework from the list and open it. You shoudl see a list of services.
Uncheck the things on the list below. (Basicall anything with GTalk or Checkin in the title)
gtalkservice.diagnostits.gtalkdiagnostics
gtalkservice.connection autherrordialog
talk.talkprovider
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkin.eventlogservices$receiver
gtalkservice.diagnostics.gtalkdiagnosticsbroadcast reciever
gtalkservice.serviceautostarter
gtalkservices.datamessagereciever
gtalkservice.sendxmppreciever
gtalkservices.packageinstalledreciever
gtalkservice.xmppendpointreciever
checkin.evenlogservice
gtalkservice.service.stalkservice
gtalkservice.pushmessagingregistar
You can freeze the GSF entirely with 1 easy step and that will also kill the wakelocks. But the Play Store becomes another casualty if you do that. Disabling the events above will stop the Google Services wakelocks dead in their tracks, and allow the Play Store to continue working. If you want to go that route you can do it but you'd have to unfreeze the GSF everytime you wanted to update an app.
Newer version if you have updated Google Service Framework.
Freeze the Google Services Framework entirely.
Profit.
Note: I haven't personally tried this and can't attest to it's viability to drawbacks. It was suggested by other members in this thread and confirmed to be working by several other people. Your miliage may vary.
One little quirk with both of the above versions is that when you turn on wifi or mobile data, the signal bars don't turn colors. They stay gray because you aren't connecting to the google servers anymore. (They normally change color to indicate that you are connected to the Google servers). After 1 day I stopped noticing they didn't change colors. Now it looks weird to me when I see them colored.
I highly recommend making a Nandroid backup before trying any of this. Once you go that, go nuts! You can't hurt too much when messing with the GSF because it will just shut down google elements. Worst case, you can always just reactivate everything, reboot, and it'll all work like it did before you messed with it. But if you accidentally disable Android System instead of Google Services, you will probably kill your ROM. So back a backup first.
And severely worst case, if you totally louse up your ROM, just restore the Nandroid and it'll all be back to normal in a flash. (Get it? In a 'flash'...haha I crack myself up)
The Greenify App Sollution
The battery saving impact is moderate.
This is one that you're just silly not to be doing.
Get the Greenify App from The Play Store
There is a free version. But its freakin' awesome so buy the donate version. It's $3 and the developer has more than earned it for the way he's making your phone awesome. (The donate version also includes some special experimental features. Read all about it. Do NOT just get the donate version. You need the free version too.)
This app basically lets your freeze any user app when you're not actively using it. And unfreeze it automatically when you want to open it again.
So if you have an app that likes to wake your device and run itself when you're not using the phone, you can just Greenify it and it will be prevented from using any system resources when you're not actively using the app.
You don't want to Greenify everything. Some apps need to run 24/7 like your messaing app, your phone app, etc. If you Greenify those you won't get messages or calls. The app is incredibly simple to us. You just select the app that's causing trouble and tell Greenify to 'go'. And it does the rest. It's just as easy to un-greenify an app if you greenify something you shouldn't have.
Not every app on your phone needs to be Greenified. Most apps behave themselves. Only do this to the ones that are showing as causing wakes or alarms or wakelocks in a battery monitor like Better Battery Stats.
Two that I will suggest for everyone to start with are Google Maps and T Mobile's My Account app. Both of these love to run when the phone is alseep.
If for whatever reason Greenify those apps hinders the way you use your phone, just ungreenify them! Simple as that.
Google Play Services and You
The battery saving impact is noticable.
Google Play Services wakes the phone a lot. It also does a lot. Read more about what all Google Play Services does here.
You have two options for this one. The first option is the nuclear option. Freeze Google Play Services outright. It will never bother you, but it might break some usefulness of other google apps.
The second option, thanks to XDA Member Karpfenhai , is to disable only certain aspects of the Google Play Services. This one uses the same technique mentioned above in the Google Services Framework Section, just different services to disable. (Thanks to Perseus71 for making me aware of this one and asking that it be included!) THIS HAS BEEN RECENTLY UPDATED
NEW PROBLEM AS OF MARCH 2015
The battery saving potential is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!
Since Google updated Play Services all hell has broken loose on custom roms. You get a persistent and unkillable wakelock for SystemUpdateManager.
The battery drain is horrendous. Your phone is awake and active 100% of the time.
This affects GPS version 7.0.97
I fixed this by going to the permissions manager (built into many aosp roms. If not available in your rom, consult yoir rom thread for ways to alter permissions) and disabling the permission in Google Play Services for "wake" and "keep awake".
Note: Some phones only show "keep awake". Just do that one if that is the case.
The problem is that on custom roms no ota is available. But Google tries to get it anyway. When it fails it doesn't shut down. It just keeps trying.
If the permissions method doesn't work, try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/fix-fix-systemupdateservice-wakelock-t3060548
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Just so you don't think I'm kidding around when I say you can severely increase your battery drain when idle, take a look at tehse screen shots from my Galaxy S4.
My specific set up is running CyanogenMod 10.1 nightlies with ChronicKernal. I haven't been using my phone much over the past 4 days. I have a total of 2 hours and 34 minutes screen on time and 40 minutes of phone calls during that period. So this is admittedly very light usage. But that's perfect to show you that these techniques really work to minimize battery drain when the phone is idle. And I promise you that your results will vary based on your ROM and Kernel.
This won't make the battery last longer during use. The screen will still burn a lot of battery and the cell radio does too. But if you want to make sure your phone will be charged when you need it without you having to carry a charger with you everywhere you go, these are the mods for you.
As you can see from these screen shots I am at 4 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes since unplugging. I have 31% battery left. (That's what the 31 in the upper left corner is. Thats' from an app called Big Battery Notifier. Its free on Play.)
The other screenshot is from Better Battery Stats showing my Alarms screen. Alarms are loosely the same as wakes. Everytime an app wakes the device (not neccessarily turning the screen on) it will record an alarm. If you look at your BBS alarms screen without these modifications I bet you see a lot more alarms than you see here, and keep in mind that mine screen show is showing 4 and a half days worth. Each one of those represents an app or service waking the device and using battery.
If the written instructions somehow baffle you, here's a video of the whole thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBpOl77Tm4
This will show you step by step how to do all of this.
Thanks to XDA Member Chaitanyapatel8880 for his work in putting this video together
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
*Note: You must use Greenify v1.82 to Hibernate Google Play Services! Search this thread for links to it.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
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I have not noticed any dysfunction, though there are likely some things I don't use. But for me it's been completely functional.
Besides, if I froze it, I'd have none of it's functions at all.
Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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How do I convert those services to user apps?
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rodny23 said:
How do I convert those services to user apps?
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Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
/System/App Mover is also good app for doing it. It's free on Google Play.
Dang right now Google services is at 41%
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Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
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Yup. I think you're right.
Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
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kevinrubio1 said:
Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
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Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.
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Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.
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Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
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This has saved a bunch of us from odd battery drain. Skipjacks has been there and done that. Amazing informative thread! Going on two weeks without having to worry about bringing my charger to work thanks to skip
SGH-M919_Omega, the end result
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Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
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I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
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Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
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I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, but I'm going to try it out and see how it works for me. I'll report back some results in case anyone is curious
funkl3 said:
I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, . .
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It does. It also allows other functions to still work such as TTS. I had the issue a while back. Something to do with shared voice.
I also freeze Contacts and Calendar syncs as well. If I want them to sync I simply thaw them for a few seconds.
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I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
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Maybe one of the "gtalk" options has something to do with notifications because last night I rebooted my phone a lot checking/unchecking options, none of the "checking" did anything! So that's good, and I unchecked some gtalk but not all and it worked!
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Great guide! A little bitter I had to read all of the pages in the original topic :laugh:
Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services.
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Btw. I forgot to mention that after I reboot the first thing I do is turn off Google Play in Running Programs. Persistent bugger. And of course I turn off notifications and auto update in GP as well with each new ROM install.
My tweak list is extensive. Someday I'll right it all down as you have. Save me some thinking, LOL.
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
Subham jyoti said:
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
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This one?
winol said:
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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Can you guide me what needs to be done with these apps? I never seen so much battery drain due to google app on my previous phones
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This one?
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Thnx. Yeah it's same like me. I don't know why it keeps running in the background
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Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
willcor said:
Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I don't want to do factory reset. I will try with other options first.
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Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Same happened to me. What I did was to delete Data from Play services app, then I deleted cache from phone an voila. I have all sync and functional.
Ps. I charge my phone to 90% and I can get 5-6 SOT at 30% left everyday.
The issue op mentioned is not about google play services, it is about the google app instead I think
The problem is I don't think any batter stat apps can get low enough level stats to indicate what is using the Google app in the background to determine what is causing the drain. Usually, the culprit is an app frequently using location service (your GPS) to check your location which I believe the Android location service coordinates for apps other than the native Android/Google apps are obtained through the Google app in the background. That latter point is purely a guess because as we all know the Google app is a "multipurpose" app and you can't see detailed enough battery usage to determine what function of the app is being used that causes battery drain.
On my S10 5G, for the first 2 weeks I've used it, Google never was in the top 5, taking like 1-2% over the course of a day. Then seemingly all the sudden, it was #1, consuming like close to 1% an hour in the background. So I think, what did I change recently? I enabled Google Discover, but set the option to mae it update less fequently (6 hours) to reduce battery (the option actually says this will reduce battery usage). It didn't make a difference. So I disabled Google Discover and installed Google News instead. My Google app battery usage is lower now. About 0.9% per hour (all background usage of course). I think for most people that's good, but not when you were used to it being more like 0.1-0.2% an hour before.
I think the bottom line is if you want to use more features on your phone you have to live with a bump in battery usage. The 4500 mAh battery on my S10 5G lasts me abotu 1.5 days. LOL. But I don't play games or check Facebook/Instragram all day. Just a few texts, weather alerts, maybe an hour or two of browsing. Mabe an hour total of talk time. So relative to other people I should be less concerned if my phone is lasting well over a day on a charge, actually close to 2 days many times. I know a lot of other more "frequent users" (probably a lot of people younger than myself) that are on social media a lot and or listening to music/watching videos would kill to have their phones last 20-48 hours without having to charge.
Still, I keep an eye on things and it bugs me Google has jumped up. A great app to use is Accubattery and monitor the "SCREEN OFF" discharge rate. You're not actively using apps when the sceen is off so this gives you a good idea of your total background battery usage. You can make changes to settings, charge your for for a while, and let several hours pass, then check the screen off discharge rate and compare it to other discharge periods before you made the settings to determine if the changes you made had much of an effect.
Of course background usage isn't going to be 100% consistent, so the longer you measure the better, as if you look at it over like a 1 hour period, it could be certain apps were just more or less active during that particular hour. But if you compare like half day or more (6+ hour) periods to previous periods, you can get a good gauge if apps setting changes or newly installed apps are eating more battery in the background.
I disable Google feedfack, all their data collecting junk and their data backup too. Google is a pig.
Some blocked Google apks like Playstore are enabled as needed.
Even when Framework and Google Transport are blocked it's sometimes periodically necessary to clear their data to get them from using excessive cpu cycles.
Battery Tracker reports Google Framework running when AOD is on but it's likely misreading as long as battery draw remains at around 1%@hour while phone is screen off.
I'm running on Pie... who knows what Q will do.
Most likely make a bigger mess.