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hi. im a brand new rooter. i got a preowned s4 mini last week and decided to root it using a guide here(im very new to all of this) i deleted bloatware and use apps like greenify, setcpu, wakelock detector all to my knowledge have been done right and im still having crap battery times. worse than my 5 year old iphone 4s!
i can post any screenshot of stats upon request but from my new knowledge of all of these apps and rooting, i see nothing out of the ordinary. if im being honest, "battery doctor" seems to be a nusiance to my battery. but it often gives me reminders that my phone is draining quickly with 29 apps open that i cant delete with app master or even see on greenify. some of them are..favourite contacts, active apps manager, s planner widget, csc, remote controls, factory mode, alarm and video player. the rest are the ones above like setcpu, greenify etc.
so im asking..what now? ive seen mentioned that getting rid of touchwiz and installing a new ROM like cyanogenmodgod. but what then?
ive no idea how to understand some of this but im fine with following instructions with technical stuff i.e rooting my phone in the first place.
i really hope i can be helped as im really liking my first android experience bar battery life
Marky91 said:
hi. im a brand new rooter. i got a preowned s4 mini last week and decided to root it using a guide here(im very new to all of this) i deleted bloatware and use apps like greenify, setcpu, wakelock detector all to my knowledge have been done right and im still having crap battery times. worse than my 5 year old iphone 4s!
i can post any screenshot of stats upon request but from my new knowledge of all of these apps and rooting, i see nothing out of the ordinary. if im being honest, "battery doctor" seems to be a nusiance to my battery. but it often gives me reminders that my phone is draining quickly with 29 apps open that i cant delete with app master or even see on greenify. some of them are..favourite contacts, active apps manager, s planner widget, csc, remote controls, factory mode, alarm and video player. the rest are the ones above like setcpu, greenify etc.
so im asking..what now? ive seen mentioned that getting rid of touchwiz and installing a new ROM like cyanogenmodgod. but what then?
ive no idea how to understand some of this but im fine with following instructions with technical stuff i.e rooting my phone in the first place.
i really hope i can be helped as im really liking my first android experience bar battery life
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Could you post some screenshots of Wakelock detector and some general things like Screen on time etc ? would help us out troubleshooting your problem
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Could you post some screenshots of Wakelock detector and some general things like Screen on time etc ? would help us out troubleshooting your problem
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ill do that later when ive spare time. ill write a little update for now..
tried CM11, simply did not like the UI, i much prefare the stock s4 mini UI (touchwiz?) so ive reverted back. ill be sure to post screenshots of wakelock, battery screen etc.
my signal is rarely above 2 bars if 2 at all..ive changed the settings from LTE to the one that means 3g...hopefully the more stable 2..sometimes full bars saves battery!
heres screenshots of various things.
notice how battery doctor has many aps as being in the backround even though i greenified them AND turned permissions like "always on" to OFF so there isnt a reason why they should be on.
ok..i cant post links until i reach 10 posts so ill add in a space in the link..
ht tp://s723.photobucket.com/user/mark_logan2/library/S4%20Mini
Marky91 said:
heres screenshots of various things.
notice how battery doctor has many aps as being in the backround even though i greenified them AND turned permissions like "always on" to OFF so there isnt a reason why they should be on.
ok..i cant post links until i reach 10 posts so ill add in a space in the link..
ht tp://s723.photobucket.com/user/mark_logan2/library/S4%20Mini
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If you go to settings > Battery > Battery graph , does it show the phone actually sleeps? (the "awake" bar)
I attached a screenshot , if the bar is compleatly highlighted , this means the phone does not go in sleep.
If this is not the case , i suspect something is wrong with you battery.
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If you go to settings > Battery > Battery graph , does it show the phone actually sleeps? (the "awake" bar)
I attached a screenshot , if the bar is compleatly highlighted , this means the phone does not go in sleep.
If this is not the case , i suspect something is wrong with you battery.
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nope..the awake bar does have bits missing (being asleep, right?) i seem to be getting acceptable charge times as of late..some games make the phone very warm and do destroy battery % but so did them games on my iphone 4s. this phone isnt brand new..it is almost new..im "happy" with the battery times now but not so much as i expected better times than my 4s but its about the same at best. i may try an OEM battery someday and see if that gives me even a 10% increase.
any advice on charging? took me about 2.5 hours to fully charge..about 1.5 of them hours, i had the phone turned off..the rest was on airplane mode
Marky91 said:
nope..the awake bar does have bits missing (being asleep, right?) i seem to be getting acceptable charge times as of late..some games make the phone very warm and do destroy battery % but so did them games on my iphone 4s. this phone isnt brand new..it is almost new..im "happy" with the battery times now but not so much as i expected better times than my 4s but its about the same at best. i may try an OEM battery someday and see if that gives me even a 10% increase.
any advice on charging? took me about 2.5 hours to fully charge..about 1.5 of them hours, i had the phone turned off..the rest was on airplane mode
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That indeed means the phone is sleeping.
What kind of Screen on time are you getting ? do you leave bluetooth / 3G / Wifi on all the time ?
3G and especially 4G is a huge battery killer.
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About the charging , i generally just charge my phone at night functioning as a clock since the battery lasts me a full day.
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That indeed means the phone is sleeping.
What kind of Screen on time are you getting ? do you leave bluetooth / 3G / Wifi on all the time ?
3G and especially 4G is a huge battery killer.
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About the charging , i generally just charge my phone at night functioning as a clock since the battery lasts me a full day.
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i have wifi only on. its on most of the day, i turn it off while i sleep or if im out and about with no hotspots about.
i seen on youtube something about a faster touchwiz thats available here..it apparently helps battery life?
also nova launcher may help with battery life too?
Marky91 said:
i have wifi only on. its on most of the day, i turn it off while i sleep or if im out and about with no hotspots about.
i seen on youtube something about a faster touchwiz thats available here..it apparently helps battery life?
also nova launcher may help with battery life too?
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Other launchers probably won't help with battery life.
I'd suggest turning off any radio's you don't use and (off course) keep the brightness low. What kind of screen on time are you getting ? (Settings > battery > screen )
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I have had the Captivate Glide for little over a month now. It was the rooted rogers version but I flashed AT&t's rooted ICS on to it.
Major issues were battery life and GPS.
Without changing any software I wanted to solve the issues or make them tolerable at the least. Probably better ways of doing this, but this is what works for me.
I assume everyone else is like me and downloaded tons of apps that we like. I personally have 30 downloaded with some form of Google being responsible for at least five of them. I also synced my google account, as well as my outlook account and skype account.
I do not game on my phone I prefer the console style of gaming but I digress.
Simple battery life can be saved obviously by closing or backing out of applications when not in use. You must be avid about this in order to preserve battery life. If you have not altered your ICS it comes with an "Active Applications" widget that makes this simple and easy. Within that widget is an even better function that allows you to clear memory on your ram. Do that for superior battery life as it will close down any program running including back ground processes.
You should also have widgets that allow you to toggle WIfi, and GPS, Bluetooth, brightness, screen time out, sync, and settings. <Extremely helpful in saving battery life. Wifi should be used whenever possible. If your phone is running processes that use data and it probably is, its better to use Wifi for your battery. Turn Wifi off when you can not secure a connection because the phone searching for wifi to connect will eat your battery.
Turn off GPS when not in use. If using an app that likes to have your location you can keep GPS on but turn it off when not directly in use it saves battery like no tomorrow.
Screen brightness is also a huge factor in battery Life. If you Go bright you die, simple as that. Make your screen as dim as you can but still comfortable to see depending on what you are doing. Again the widget makes this super fast and easy but you can go into the settings and adjust this by percentage if you are particular. Other wise the widget allows Bright, half bright, auto bright, and no bright. No bright will save tons of life so learn to see in the dark haha.
Screen timeout at 15s will save tons but can be annoying if your in the process of using your phone. I uses it and just tap my screen if I need it to stay light but trust me it gets old fast but so does a dead battery.
Go to your individual synced accounts and adjust the sync intervals to specified times if possible. Usually find it once you open whatever account and go to its settings. That gives the battery some life in between syncing which uses data and eats battery.
Go to settings and toggle system power settings. This Saves a huge amount of battery life and I have no idea why. You may be tempted to customize but don't. The system power saving is far superior from my experience so far.
One last and final thing to save battery life. The Google Play Store. It runs a ridiculous amount of Background processes. Go to settings, then, data, find the play store and click it, scroll to the bottom and restrict the background data. You will have to turn it back on in order to use the play store and some other apps which leads to my next topic...
GPS
This captivate glide has a notorious rep for being ****ty in these here forums. I am here to tell you its not all true. I am not a software guy as you can see all of my advice is simple common application usage advice. I previously had the SGH-I827 and its GPS was spectacular so I found it hard to believe the captivate glide GPS would not perform well. In fact when I began to use it, it did not. It was glitchy and unreliable. Terrible at best. I thought I was going to have to buy another phone or do some software stuff I had no clue of. I was patient.
And for myself I figured it out.
Everything you do to this phone is reflected in its functions.
All the things I suggested to save Battery Life impede the GPS of this phone. Take that in...
I started over from scratch resetting back to factory settings. (leaving the Stock rooted ics). If your google account backs up all your apps they will begin to re download immediately once you sync your account again, BUT STOP IT!
Don't let anything Upgrade or Download to your phone automatically. This is crucial.
Google maps upgrade must not be allowed. Instead use the current version that comes with the ice cream sandwich OS. (includes the navigate button we all like as well as the places icon) Everything else can then be downloaded or upgraded in the play store manually.
Now, for the tricky part. you have been saving battery life using all the propper previously mentioned techniques but now you want to use GPS. First thing you need to do is uncheck system power settings.. Then allow google play services to have its background data back. Settings, data, google play scroll bottom yea uncheck it. Turn your screen timeout to 10min. Now toggle GPS back on. But wait one more thing, Clear the ram. All done in that order Now when you go to maps you should get a lock in under a minute and it will be reliable. No way of stopping GPS from consuming a ton of battery but if you dim the screen and charge it while in use you will see battery life gains instead of losses.
Thanks for reading my personal usage experience so far. I have yet to take the update to GPS to see if it still works in the same fashion because I am a coward and I like my GPS right now. Let me know if anyone experiments further. With the rooted ICS OS.
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
Eidoss said:
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
Eidoss said:
I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
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Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
sfhub said:
Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
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Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
Eidoss said:
Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
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What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
sfhub said:
What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
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Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
Eidoss said:
Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
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Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
sfhub said:
Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
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Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
Eidoss said:
Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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What is the power drain over a couple of hours with *no apps installed* completely stock, and wifi/cell turned off? What is the change when wifi is turned on?
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What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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Have you set "WiFi on during sleep" to "Never"? in the Advanced WiFi settings?
In the original release, there was a bug where WiFi would stay on even if you had set it to "Never" draining battery in standby.
Somewhere between MDA89E and MHC19Q they fixed it and WiFi will go to deep sleep after being in standby for a while, but they introduced another (or exposed existing) bug where WiFi will not resume after coming out of sleep, unless you cycle WiFi off/on. So you're standby battery should be better with this setting, but it'll be a little more annoying when turning on your device.
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
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This one?
winol said:
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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Can you guide me what needs to be done with these apps? I never seen so much battery drain due to google app on my previous phones
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This one?
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Thnx. Yeah it's same like me. I don't know why it keeps running in the background
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Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
willcor said:
Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I don't want to do factory reset. I will try with other options first.
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Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Same happened to me. What I did was to delete Data from Play services app, then I deleted cache from phone an voila. I have all sync and functional.
Ps. I charge my phone to 90% and I can get 5-6 SOT at 30% left everyday.
The issue op mentioned is not about google play services, it is about the google app instead I think
The problem is I don't think any batter stat apps can get low enough level stats to indicate what is using the Google app in the background to determine what is causing the drain. Usually, the culprit is an app frequently using location service (your GPS) to check your location which I believe the Android location service coordinates for apps other than the native Android/Google apps are obtained through the Google app in the background. That latter point is purely a guess because as we all know the Google app is a "multipurpose" app and you can't see detailed enough battery usage to determine what function of the app is being used that causes battery drain.
On my S10 5G, for the first 2 weeks I've used it, Google never was in the top 5, taking like 1-2% over the course of a day. Then seemingly all the sudden, it was #1, consuming like close to 1% an hour in the background. So I think, what did I change recently? I enabled Google Discover, but set the option to mae it update less fequently (6 hours) to reduce battery (the option actually says this will reduce battery usage). It didn't make a difference. So I disabled Google Discover and installed Google News instead. My Google app battery usage is lower now. About 0.9% per hour (all background usage of course). I think for most people that's good, but not when you were used to it being more like 0.1-0.2% an hour before.
I think the bottom line is if you want to use more features on your phone you have to live with a bump in battery usage. The 4500 mAh battery on my S10 5G lasts me abotu 1.5 days. LOL. But I don't play games or check Facebook/Instragram all day. Just a few texts, weather alerts, maybe an hour or two of browsing. Mabe an hour total of talk time. So relative to other people I should be less concerned if my phone is lasting well over a day on a charge, actually close to 2 days many times. I know a lot of other more "frequent users" (probably a lot of people younger than myself) that are on social media a lot and or listening to music/watching videos would kill to have their phones last 20-48 hours without having to charge.
Still, I keep an eye on things and it bugs me Google has jumped up. A great app to use is Accubattery and monitor the "SCREEN OFF" discharge rate. You're not actively using apps when the sceen is off so this gives you a good idea of your total background battery usage. You can make changes to settings, charge your for for a while, and let several hours pass, then check the screen off discharge rate and compare it to other discharge periods before you made the settings to determine if the changes you made had much of an effect.
Of course background usage isn't going to be 100% consistent, so the longer you measure the better, as if you look at it over like a 1 hour period, it could be certain apps were just more or less active during that particular hour. But if you compare like half day or more (6+ hour) periods to previous periods, you can get a good gauge if apps setting changes or newly installed apps are eating more battery in the background.
I disable Google feedfack, all their data collecting junk and their data backup too. Google is a pig.
Some blocked Google apks like Playstore are enabled as needed.
Even when Framework and Google Transport are blocked it's sometimes periodically necessary to clear their data to get them from using excessive cpu cycles.
Battery Tracker reports Google Framework running when AOD is on but it's likely misreading as long as battery draw remains at around 1%@hour while phone is screen off.
I'm running on Pie... who knows what Q will do.
Most likely make a bigger mess.
Hello.
I bought my S20 few days a go, with device everything is great but, my battery is terrible,
I use it every half hour to see do i have new notifications, messages, new posts on instagram and thats it.
I dont play android games or etc.
But with this minimal usage im losing 50% of battery @ work, and i use phone max 1h SOT in 7h of work time.
I tried Naptime but naptime only save my battery when phone is locked, but when im using phone im losing % very very fast.
My settings: Location , bluetooth, NFC disabled. Facebook in hibernation, and i disabled all bloatware with ADB uninstall.
And im using 120hz.
Normally with my settings on other phones i get very good battery life.
I do not want to root my phone, but is there any solution how to get more battery life on S20?
Thanks
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
A package blocker is more effective for troubleshooting on the fly. I'm running Pie and Q gives you less tools to see what's going on.
Karma Firewall* is useful to lockdown Goggle Play Services* (a known serial offender) and others.
Nonetheless you need to find the troublemakers as you're burning up the battery.
Play with it... this may take a while.
*you lose its logging ability with Q I believe. A major hit if so.
**toggle on/off as needed.
blackhawk said:
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
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I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
Talentooman said:
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
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Unfortunately you'll need to track it down; no one size fits all. You need to figure out which system and 3rd party apks are responsible.
Use what tools are available and ones you can find for that OS.
Even with all syncing disabled on my 10+ Goggle Play Services relentlessly connects 4 times a minute with the internet. Blocking it toned it's battery usage down.
Brave browser is a hog and will run in the background unless forced stopped; closing its window does nothing.
Fun times... Google did nothing to address this and in fact has been making troubleshooting harder with each new OS using security as a ploy.
I ran Kitkat until last year. In 6 years I've never been forced to reload due to malware... bite me Google. Yeah viruses, trojans, etc are real and can/do infect Androids but almost always it's the user's fault. Transparency is what's needed not scoped storage and more user/apk inaccessibility.
Talentooman said:
I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Depends on the device, the firmware and what's loaded including carrier and Sammy junk.
I've tried it every which way and now have about 86 apks blocked. Some like Playstore and Galaxy updates get toggle on as needed which isn't often.
Every time with power management when it was used it seemed to work but within a few days it became the problem with excessive power consumption.
Plus and even worse it will screw up phone functionality constantly and inexplicably at times.
Android will manage power and go into deep sleep with all buckets active; no power management needed... at least on my configuration.
Because of the time and trouble invested as well as trash features like scoped storage I refuse to go to Q. This 10+ will most likely run happily on Pie and many of its factory loaded google apks.
Yes updates can and will screw things up; update one or two at a time, observe.
Having a fast, stable, predictable system that runs well with good battery life and does what you want is all that really matters with Android.
Security is very rarely an issue even on ancient software if you aren't inept.
As is I'm ready to do a full reload if needed, be back and running in 2 hours and 99% fully configured by that day with bare minimal internet connection required.
My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
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My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
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Im still waiting for update..
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Im still waiting for update..
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Disable all power management except for screen/power mode.
Android does nicely by its self.
The only thing you should have toogled on is fast charging if you use it. Try it.
Once you got it running well be very careful of updates especially firmware. At least wait a while to see if it blows up the phones of others using it.