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720p recording worthless? still pictures quality?

Im planning on getting the desire, and im REALLY interested in the 720p recording, but from the videos ive seen in youtube they look like like upscaled videos whats the bitrate ? 19-20 fps? also the audio sounds awful, kinda like the omnia hd back in the day
What about the pictures? i HATE the pics taken by my milestone, are the desire pics any better?

For video, the new radio has improved it. Its still not a strong point though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0NlnGUQah4&hd=1
The guy taking this one was trying to put it in some bad shooting situations (direct light, fast movement etc), so you can see what its like when not in ideal conditions.
For pictures, check out the awesome pics thread, it has some really nice ones.

720p video capture is unimpressive on the Desire. You need to be in a very well lit area for the videos to be barely passable. With inadequate light, frame rates plummet. This is a glaring weakness of the device. But fortunately, it isn't a primary concern for me and most other users.
Still captures are average at best. HTC was never known for superb cameras...

The camera itself in the phone is not too bad, its the android camera software that drags it down.

ohyeahar said:
720p video capture is unimpressive on the Desire. You need to be in a very well lit area for the videos to be barely passable. With inadequate light, frame rates plummet. This is a glaring weakness of the device. But fortunately, it isn't a primary concern for me and most other users.
Still captures are average at best. HTC was never known for superb cameras...
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they better step it up, i find it funny that we used to mock the iphone's camera , and now its probablyh the best cameraphone available out there aside from the n8

What happens if you turn on the LED in dark settings and try 720p ??? does that work ?

this is my test 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1moRohDoEg&hd=1
good enough for mobile imo

Yep, in good lighting 720p recording isn't bad at all, as you rightly say, for mobile.
My only complain is that they could have optimized a bit the codec datarate, especially since they provide you the phone with a class 2 sd card. However I must admit that I've tried to remove A2SD+ and my class 6 transcend turned out to be enough for avoiding stuttering, which occasionally happened before.
The complain mainly stems from the fact that AOSP roms don't have this problem.

Still pictures quality is adequate. If you're into editing your photos then they're quite amenable to post-processing. Videos, on the other hand... well you've heard it from the others already.

here's my first 720 test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7_DlJ53NI
I hate the camera, on such an expensive phone why did they **** up the camera?

le3ky said:
this is my test 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1moRohDoEg&hd=1
good enough for mobile imo
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Why do my 720p videos keep freezing for a second, every 4-5 seconds?

i have actually never had any issues with 720p recording on leodroid's rom. Frame rate is more than just good. As for the camera, its ten time better than droids.

garese said:
Why do my 720p videos keep freezing for a second, every 4-5 seconds?
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Have you got A2SD or even worse, A2SD+ (dalvik cache to sd) ?
That can explain it, I think, along with some or a few background applications doing stuff while you record.
And, obviously, a slow sd card.

Not worth, I confirm that 720p is worthless on HTC Desire. Apparently the upgrade is software upscale. There is NOTHING difference in picture quality in video capture between 720p and 800X480 resolution. It's hardware suck and can't bring you any improvement in software. What a shame with "HD" recording in Desire.

lhoang8500 said:
Not worth, I confirm that 720p is worthless on HTC Desire. Apparently the upgrade is software upscale. There is NOTHING difference in picture quality in video capture between 720p and 800X480 resolution. It's hardware suck and can't bring you any improvement in software. What a shame with "HD" recording in Desire.
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Any proof?

There is another thread lying around where some tests indicate that, while 720p isn't HD for sure (nor is the ifonz one), there is a higher level of detail compared to 480.
There might be some upscaling or not, you might find it useful or not, but there is definitely some more quality in the image.

the problem seems to be the framerate and the SOUND, how can they screw it so bad? awful sound.
whats the problem with the sd card ? if i have a class 2 card for example ( 2 mbps) and the video is supossed to use 3 mbps what happens?

video recording quality

Hey guys, the camera seems pretty good on this phone when I'm taking pictures, however when I am taking videos it almost seems kind of grainy even though its suppose to be 1080p. Anyone else have the similar or different experiences? Please share!

Grain doesn't have much to do with resolution. What affects grain directly is light. Low light will give you more grain. Period. This is valid for professional cameras as well.
Shoot a video I good light and the quality is excellent.

Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.

How do you switch to 720p mode?
efarley said:
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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efarley said:
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?

daneurysm said:
I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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GoPro HD also does this. Few of my friend's digital point and shoots did this as well. So, it's a sensor issue, not a software one.
I posted this before:
1080p:
http://youtu.be/c4AtsXjyKhY?hd=1
720p:
http://youtu.be/buHigxvlnfo?hd=1
Pardon my breathing, sinuses FTL
I really wish there was a way an external microphone could be used while recording video.

My problem is with the recorded audio. Has anyone found an app that let's you control audio gain. Serious clipping for live music records.

Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.

The graininess is caused by poor lighting. I went to sea world with my girl this week and all the outside video's came out amazing. But, inside shots with low light all came out very grainy. I can't blame the sensor too much because like someone mention before the same happens on high end camera's. But, also remember professional shots are taking with very high end lighting equipment.

Zexell said:
Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
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I can't seem to find anything like what you're referring to anywhere in the market or our app section. Got a link or a file name? Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
and if u search our ET4G forum, you'll see a thread about it.
MUST BE ROOTED.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Samsung Galaxy S7 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better

Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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https://youtu.be/9gQqgtUCxZ8

Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU

Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0

I compared the video quality of Samsung Galaxy S7 vs Lg G3. For the same HD video on youtube, LG G3 provide crisp and colourful output, while S7 video is saturated and pixelated. I am disappointed with S7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldBSkz6UCo
Check this CInematic 4K Video which is filmed with the Galaxy S7

rdcamero said:
Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0
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Video is set private!

Jairus24 said:
Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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Pretty damn good man !

Hmm.. it's funny to see that those that are disappointed do not share an example, while the enthusiastics do.
This way it's impossible to compare.

Jairus24 said:
Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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how do you add the cinematic look

I moved several weeks ago from iphone6+ to S7.
Yesterday I attended a live music show and recording on S7 were horrible (distorted) compared to previous iphone 5 and 6 experience I had.
Here are 2 from yesterday that are bad
https://youtu.be/YZG2LqMMraM
https://youtu.be/Kba-CLtZJlE
and 2 good with 5 and 6
https://youtu.be/LyrlLPP2zpE
https://youtu.be/fiJofpOj9ko

video issue
s3icc0 said:
I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better
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My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up

supremeweb said:
My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up
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What not working?

4k at night: https://youtu.be/EW8qM1ggYB8
240fps at day: https://youtu.be/0Q5HAggaDwg
For me it is much better then lg g3 does, i never try iphone

While the sharpening look really bad in photos, Galaxy S7's video quality is superb.

Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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Still sound is awful shooting concerts, iphone is superb in this feature... so annoying

[email protected] said:
Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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I read somewhere that the video stabilization option in the menu is for electronic image stabilization. Supposedly OIS is always on and doesn't react the same with EIS enabled.. Try shooting a video with that box unchecked and see if it's any better

my thoughts on S7 video recording
Over the last 2+ years, I had an S5+ (G901F). The one with SD805 and the IMX240 (same sensor powering Note 4). Recently, due to an accident which resulted in destroying my S5+, I bought an S7 (Exynos version...and quite possibly an ISOcell sensor or whatever Sammy calls it these days) I don't think I ve got the IMX260 powering my unit, so I can't make any comments regarding the hardware...
OS wise - it was 4.4.4 and 6.0.1 on my S5+ and Android N (pre-installed) on my S7.
Since I am a hardcore video shooter with my phone, I can share my impressions of the S7. In short, I was rather disappointed.
Video rec modes remain the same for both i.e. 4K, 1080p 30/60, 720p...don't care
I was expecting similar output (if not better) from my S7 compared to my S5+. But no. After triple-checking on the camera/video/photo settings, I was still recording videos where compression artifacts are clearly visible. Usually in darker areas (but not always the case) - sometimes even in areas that you d believe the camera is focusing on. I m not saying that this is a sensor issue, but rather more of a post-processing / compression issue. If I freeze the video at certain parts, I can see in a frame, compression artifacts such as the ones you d get from a highly-compressed JPEG. Which makes me wonder why didn't I see any of those whilst I was checking on the video quality produced by the S7, compared to other flagship models.
I am not sure if that quality drop between the two flagships is justified by the fact Samsung decided to move from 16MP -> 12MP, or the software i.e. Nougat vs Marshmallow (...or both). For all I know, frame quality under video recording, has significantly dropped in the S7, compared to the much older S5+. (don't know what the case was for S6, never actually tested it...) Just to clarify - this is definately not a stabilization issue (phone position is fixed whilst shooting).
The good parts - obviously - the S7 is very good under low light conditions (both video rec and photo shoting). Focus and photo shooting is amazingly fast. Two areas that it clearly smokes the S5+ as far as the camera is concerned. But that's about it really. And I d rather have the 'slower' S5+, rather than the heavily grained videos the S7 produces. Being able to shot better in the dark is always a bonus, but not so important to me. I m usually shooting [email protected] Sometimes 4K, but under good light only (due to lack of HDR whilst at 2160p). [email protected] video shooting quality seems like a 'tie' between the S7 / S5+. Both very smooth and similar amount of details preserved in the video. But yet again, I m not shooting high-speed moving objects so as to justify shooting at 60fps. But I m expecting better quality per-frame whilst at 30fps. And at 30fps, the S5+ produces better results.
Also, the video trimmer under S7/Nougat seems to lack the Rotate feature. Don't know if it was moved under the Movie Maker app (which I haven't yet downloaded). Video processing seems to be much slower now. Trimming under 4.4.4 was at least twice as fast compared to what it is now! I am really curious if trimming under more recent versions of Android actually re-compresses the output file. If that's the case, that would be discraseful to say the least...can anyone confirm this? I will at some point test this myself and post the results.
Just to clarify. I m not saying that recorded videos using the S7 are bad - I m saying that it lacks the quality per-frame of the ones shot by the S5. I very rarely recall seeing compression artifacts in videos captured by my older S5+ and that is why is pretty obvious to me now. And I can't explain it. If it's not a sensor issue, could it be that the compression ratio has been increased? If that's the case - it's a good thing - as it could be fixed in a later release. Has anyone witnessed video quality degredation from Marshmallow ->> Nougat?
Please share your thoughts.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG G5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Videos are a bit...meh. The lack of 60 fps and "manual video" in general is, frankly, sad. The turnaround was using v10's camera app ported to the G4 (but works on G5) : 60 fps FullHd (but no OIS and no wide lens atm)

I recorded some waterfalls and other natural objects and I was very much impressed with it. It is the best video I have seen recorded on a cell phone. The live action of my boys baseball games is equally impressive. Maybe my eyes aren't that sensitive.
JD

Wow....
All my respect for this company and for its phones. G5 IS THE BEST

I do love the quality of the video and really enjoy the time-lapse feature!

I recorded some videos from cars competition using different modes (4K, wide camera, HD with slow motion)
Slow motion.
4k
Wide camera
You can see all videos on my youtube channel

Can someone help me on how to use the timelapse videos ? I tried with the timelapse button but nothing change when watching the video.

I fell in love with the time lapse mode...
https://youtu.be/6YGnQqQpjkM

You can do manual video using the V10 apk camera app for non rooted

The photos this beast takes are superb but videos are kinda "meh" but I think it's because of that "steady" feature as it kinda "warps" the video so just OIS is better if you have steady hands. Also thank god for V10 Camera Apk for 1080p 60 FPS video recording...60 fps is sooo beautiful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsMGEg44tPE

While i was driving i saw the mount shaking too much and i thought the result video was going to be really shaky....i couldn't be more wrong OIS did a great job and the video turned out perfect

I'm so glad to see this post and find out about the v10 camera port

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While i was driving i saw the mount shaking too much and i thought the result video was going to be really shaky....i couldn't be more wrong OIS did a great job and the video turned out perfect
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I definitely agree with you. OIS is really doing a great job on this device. :good:

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the OnePlus 3T come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

You'll have a hard time finding a phone which can create 1080 60 fps video as smooth and stable as this. The 4k, however, suffers from some sort of low light artifacts when panning. That isn't a problem for me because I much prefer the smoothness of 60 fps over the quality of 4k. As for the slomo, it's Aight. Nothing to write home about.

Video quality is OK ..But sound recording on video is horrendous....

is there anyway we can record videos on 24fps? coz I cant in open camera and we dont have framerate settings in our stock camera app.

Encoding profile
According to this article, the video encoding profile and bitrate was improved in OOS 3.2.2...
I just got my OnePlus 3T, with stock OOS 3.5.3 and when I view back the videos I record with it, their property show that they were recorded with Baseline profile and with 42Mbit...
Anybody have more info about this?

ilyr73 said:
According to this article, the video encoding profile and bitrate was improved in OOS 3.2.2...
I just got my OnePlus 3T, with stock OOS 3.5.3 and when I view back the videos I record with it, their property show that they were recorded with Baseline profile and with 42Mbit...
Anybody have more info about this?
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Well, I figured it out myself... They changed the encoding profile for the 4K videos only...

Really smooth footage
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the OnePlus 3T come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
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I really love the way it record. I can't believe that i can get smooth footage like that in my phone. Here is my video that i recorded https://youtu.be/Y35E0cRkmos

G.NO_BOYz said:
I really love the way it record. I can't believe that i can get smooth footage like that in my phone. Here is my video that i recorded https://youtu.be/Y35E0cRkmos
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You have used gimbal in this video but otherwise it's fine

gedas5 said:
You have used gimbal in this video but otherwise it's fine
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I swear i don't use any gimbal bro. All the footage are handheld. Maybe my hand is smooth like using gimble hahaha. I planned to buy it one but i don't have enough money yet and luckily the way that my phone did is good to get smooth footage. But the bad thing about this camera is it don't give a good color to the video so i decided to put some color grading on it.
Or maybe if i have free time, i will make behind the video for u???

G.NO_BOYz said:
I swear i don't use any gimbal bro. All the footage are handheld. Maybe my hand is smooth like using gimble hahaha. I planned to buy it one but i don't have enough money yet and luckily the way that my phone did is good to get smooth footage. But the bad thing about this camera is it don't give a good color to the video so i decided to put some color grading on it.
Or maybe if i have free time, i will make behind the video for u
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The robotic movements while panning from one side to another says totally otherwise that either gimbal was used or you stabilised the footage on post. Not easy to fool someone whose got gimbal

gedas5 said:
The robotic movements while panning from one side to another says totally otherwise that either gimbal was used or you stabilised the footage on post. Not easy to fool someone whose got gimbal
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Hahahaha why i need to fool someone, i don't get anything from it. I do know some tips that make my hand stable. To make hand stable and get smooth footage, u just hold ur phone with ur both hand and put it near to ur chest than walk step by step slowly. This tips make me get this smooth footage but it a bit ridiculous. U can give a try and see bro, this will help improve ur footage. ??

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The robotic movements while panning from one side to another says totally otherwise that either gimbal was used or you stabilised the footage on post. Not easy to fool someone whose got gimbal
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Oneplus had upgraded the EIS close to the one in pixel in a not so recent update.. Do some research first.

I really like this phone and looking for review so that I will purchase it...Thanks for all of you reviews..

so i recorded and edited this video at 1080p 120fps on PA cam what do u think guys

venomus001 said:
so i recorded and edited this video at 1080p 120fps on PA cam what do u think guys
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PA cam?

Paranoid android