Hey guys, the camera seems pretty good on this phone when I'm taking pictures, however when I am taking videos it almost seems kind of grainy even though its suppose to be 1080p. Anyone else have the similar or different experiences? Please share!
Grain doesn't have much to do with resolution. What affects grain directly is light. Low light will give you more grain. Period. This is valid for professional cameras as well.
Shoot a video I good light and the quality is excellent.
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
How do you switch to 720p mode?
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Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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efarley said:
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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GoPro HD also does this. Few of my friend's digital point and shoots did this as well. So, it's a sensor issue, not a software one.
I posted this before:
1080p:
http://youtu.be/c4AtsXjyKhY?hd=1
720p:
http://youtu.be/buHigxvlnfo?hd=1
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I really wish there was a way an external microphone could be used while recording video.
My problem is with the recorded audio. Has anyone found an app that let's you control audio gain. Serious clipping for live music records.
Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
The graininess is caused by poor lighting. I went to sea world with my girl this week and all the outside video's came out amazing. But, inside shots with low light all came out very grainy. I can't blame the sensor too much because like someone mention before the same happens on high end camera's. But, also remember professional shots are taking with very high end lighting equipment.
Zexell said:
Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
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I can't seem to find anything like what you're referring to anywhere in the market or our app section. Got a link or a file name? Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
and if u search our ET4G forum, you'll see a thread about it.
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hey,
found this news a few minutes ago...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/nexus-one-steps-up-to-720p-hd-video-thanks-to-latest-hack-video/ or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
the nexus has the camera as the desire, or not?
so i think a port isn't impossible !?
raangu
look here Nexus 720p at XDA
This Threat in Desire Forum
The creator has stated that does not work on desire, but he will release a fix for it later tonight
Oooh, I think I'll be rooting very soon for this then!!
Judging by the quality of the sample video, its pretty clear why HTC never enabled 720p on these cameras, it just isnt real 720p, its just upscaling the already mediocre video quality of the camera to a higher resolution, which results in even more fragments and color distortion.
I seriously do not understand why people freak out because of this.
Post up video, before and after?
We could post up videos, before upscaling and after upscaling, that would be very interesting.
tbh, it's not exactly the reason I bought a Desire...it's a phone so as long as it can make calls and receive SMS messages it fulfills it's purpose IMO. Email, Internet, etc. are just bonuses
I guess if that is the video mode doing 720p it would annoy people as they said it would be included in a future update, so you would only expect it to be proper hd recording.
Phorz said:
Judging by the quality of the sample video, its pretty clear why HTC never enabled 720p on these cameras, it just isnt real 720p, its just upscaling the already mediocre video quality of the camera to a higher resolution, which results in even more fragments and color distortion.
I seriously do not understand why people freak out because of this.
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Not entirely sure about that. It's well known that the HTC cameras don't work very well in low light conditions and unless I've missed one, all the sample videos are taken indoors without a decent light source. I'm not saying you're wrong, it could very well be as you said. I'd just recommend withholding judgement until we've seen a sample taken under optimal conditions. It'd be great to have 720p even if it only works outdoors in blazing sunshine.
Marc
No phone will do decent hd video in doors in low light just doesn't happen, if you want that you need a high end hd cam corder.
its possible and being worked on but since it requires a kernel mod may take time BUT ... since we have the 2.32.9 kernel ported now it should easy to replicate
Maybe it is a bitrate problem?
Don't know if he increased it?
It would be nice to have the original recorded video to properly analyze it..if this whole 720p thing is some sort of upscale imho it is pretty useless..
Since the camera's (alleged) native resolution is 5 megapixels (ie. has way more than 720 lines), there is no theoretical need for upscaling (in fact you could go much higher than 720p without upscaling.
If the camera actually isn't 5 megapixel (and upscales photos to that resolution), then who knowsif it's worth it....
I think this is next step what dev guys will give us,supprise
tbh, it's not exactly the reason I bought a Desire...it's a phone so as long as it can make calls and receive SMS messages it fulfills it's purpose IMO. Email, Internet, etc. are just bonuses
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Why would you get a smartphone just to make calls and send text. Plenty of decnt feature phones serve that purpose. Personally I don't use the camera on a phone and it's not a selling point. But beng able to hack my phone to take 720 video would be cool, even if I'm not going to use it. It's about the being able to and having fun. Also showing off to all my mates who have closed iToys! ;-)
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720p is less than 1mp, so even if the camera were 1.3mp, it could still do 720p without upscaling.
5mp is more than twice as much as 1080p, the real limitation is processing power for encoding and storage space.
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720p is less than 1mp, so even if the camera were 1.3mp, it could still do 720p without upscaling.
5mp is more than twice as much as 1080p, the real limitation is processing power for encoding and storage space.
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Well, while you are right in some ways, you are so wrong from a technical point of view. Capturing Video is a totally different story than taking photos because taking a picture with autofocus every 2-3 seconds, and capturing 25-30 pictures every second... you cannot compare that, so dont let yourself be blindfolded by megapixels. The size of the CCD elements, and the time theyre exposed to light PLUS the optics is what makes pictures/videos. And when you look at the size of those things in a mobile phone, you get the idea why smartphones are still miiiiiiles away from even midclass digital cameras...
it is all about processor man ,lenses has an effect ,but processor is the main
Has anyone else noticed when you set camcorder resalution to 1080P that it ia zoomed in. Try switching between 720 and 1080 and you will instantly see what I am talking about. It is very annoying to take close videos in 1080p.
Wow. I didn't notice that.. Very odd
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Makes me worry about quality control...
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1080p sucks. No zoom. Very disappointed in it but overall awesome camera.
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There is no zoom option with 1080p. No biggie -- I'm not seeing any real difference in quality between 1080p and 720p anyway, and you can zoom plus the files are smaller.
I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.
djjosh said:
I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.
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Thats what I would think. They talk about it in the anandtech review of the international version. Still don't really understand the reason though.
djjosh said:
I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.
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This is exactly what I noticed and thought myself.
1080p is pretty much useless on here, I feel that it was an afterthought. Seems the 720p has a bit of stabilization, and overall just looks better.
Here is a shot in 1080:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AtsXjyKhY
Here is the same shot in 720:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHigxvlnfo
bondosho said:
1080p is pretty much useless on here, I feel that it was an afterthought. Seems the 720p has a bit of stabilization, and overall just looks better.
Here is a shot in 1080:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AtsXjyKhY
Here is the same shot in 720:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHigxvlnfo
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Exactly why I made this thread. Also, watch your two videos and notice how far zoomed in the 1080P video is compared to the 720P. I also have many issues with quality of 1080P, which is why I leave mine set to 720P.
Wow, I am extremely grateful for this thread. I just tested 1080p vs 720p on my phone and 720p seems to have some great image stabilizing and the bitrate looks higher than 1080p.
720p has IS, zoom, and looks so smooth. Couple that with the bitrate hack and you got yourself one hell of a camcorder.
Zexell said:
Wow, I am extremely grateful for this thread. I just tested 1080p vs 720p on my phone and 720p seems to have some great image stabilizing and the bitrate looks higher than 1080p.
720p has IS, zoom, and looks so smooth. Couple that with the bitrate hack and you got yourself one hell of a camcorder.
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bitrate hacking? do tell!
Kikoshi said:
bitrate hacking? do tell!
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Yes please do
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There was a thread created before about this so I investigated. I have came to conclusion the 1080p is better quality. And of course better quality full screen. Watch each file at it's naive resolution. I have a dreamcolor display at 1920x1200 so I can definitely make the call on what looks better. This is my opinion on my findings.
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
The other issue I have found with the camera is that the settings don't survive a reboot. What's the point of editing the shortcuts if you have to redo them every time you reboot the phone or quit the camera app.
On the OG Epic, I could set the camera to black and white and it would remain until I changed it. However, on this camera, I have to set the effects every time I use the camera.
I would say that the camera is sorta flaky. Anyone know if this happens on the other Galaxy S2........
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The other issue I have found with the camera is that the settings don't survive a reboot. What's the point of editing the shortcuts if you have to redo them every time you reboot the phone or quit the camera app.
On the OG Epic, I could set the camera to black and white and it would remain until I changed it. However, on this camera, I have to set the effects every time I use the camera.
I would say that the camera is sorta flaky. Anyone know if this happens on the other Galaxy S2........
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The shortcuts actually on me, they survive the reboot, I haven't fiddled with the whole black and whiteness, and tried to reboot it, but i'll try it out for ya
edit : Well all my other options stayed, eccept the Effects, it reverts back to normal.
Kikoshi said:
bitrate hacking? do tell!
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R1ptide said:
Yes please do
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Check this camera mod out. I can confirm this works with our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
krazyflipj said:
Check this camera mod out. I can confirm this works with our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
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Thank you!, I can't wait to try it out when i Root my phone.
Did the 1080p get fixed I'm in Fi27 blukuban ,and the 1080p is not zoomed in anymore.
Edit, my bad I must of zoomed its still the same. I must of zoomed in the 720 then compared it , so I tricked myself
One thing I find very annoying is the frame rate temporarily freezing during panning. To say its annoying is an understatement. It drives me crazy! Even qbking's 1080p video test of the note 2 is horribly affected by it. I don't remember if my 4s did it but you couldn't change the resolution at all with it and it certainly didn't look like full res on a 1080p TV. I think it might have had the stutters too but not as bad as these phones. I loved the audio gain circuit in that phone. It wasn't easily over driven like Samsung phones are. Those where the few things I liked about it, everything else was a pita.
hi all. today I got my new m9 and I admit that I'm really excited. despite all the talks about the bad camera, this does the job for me. however the video recording is really bad. I noticed very poor performance indoors (with quite much sun light in the house) with very few details and basically one of the worst video recordings. the video gets better outside but when I zoom at max, the image looks so bad. I recorded the same scene with the m9 and my previous htc one s and the one s captured more details at max zoom and the image looked cleaner. all this happened with at 1080p recording. when I switched to 4k things were better, the video was at the same level, maybe a little better than my one s. but this isn't supposed to happen. the photos taken in max zoom are good but when i record video they are much worse. i think using the google camera that things are a little better at video shooting. also i think that when I start recording video, it automatically zooms a little bit. I have installed latest OTA and latest camera update from playstore. I will appreciate if you can share your video shooting experience here, basically if you experience such bad image quality when you fully zoom in at 1080p. Thank you.
StorZ said:
hi all. today I got my new m9 and I admit that I'm really excited. despite all the talks about the bad camera, this does the job for me. however the video recording is really bad. I noticed very poor performance indoors (with quite much sun light in the house) with very few details and basically one of the worst video recordings. the video gets better outside but when I zoom at max, the image looks so bad. I recorded the same scene with the m9 and my previous htc one s and the one s captured more details at max zoom and the image looked cleaner. all this happened with at 1080p recording. when I switched to 4k things were better, the video was at the same level, maybe a little better than my one s. but this isn't supposed to happen. the photos taken in max zoom are good but when i record video they are much worse. i think using the google camera that things are a little better at video shooting. also i think that when I start recording video, it automatically zooms a little bit. I have installed latest OTA and latest camera update from playstore. I will appreciate if you can share your video shooting experience here, basically if you experience such bad image quality when you fully zoom in at 1080p. Thank you.
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I know what you mean, it gets really pixelatedat max zoom, I believe this is to do with the sharpness which hadn't been completely addressed, the ip6 and note 4 are far more capable in terms of the camera, bit of a bummer but not a great deal you can do about it. Try a different camera app, snap camera is quite good.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG G5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Videos are a bit...meh. The lack of 60 fps and "manual video" in general is, frankly, sad. The turnaround was using v10's camera app ported to the G4 (but works on G5) : 60 fps FullHd (but no OIS and no wide lens atm)
I recorded some waterfalls and other natural objects and I was very much impressed with it. It is the best video I have seen recorded on a cell phone. The live action of my boys baseball games is equally impressive. Maybe my eyes aren't that sensitive.
JD
Wow....
All my respect for this company and for its phones. G5 IS THE BEST
I do love the quality of the video and really enjoy the time-lapse feature!
I recorded some videos from cars competition using different modes (4K, wide camera, HD with slow motion)
Slow motion.
4k
Wide camera
You can see all videos on my youtube channel
Can someone help me on how to use the timelapse videos ? I tried with the timelapse button but nothing change when watching the video.
I fell in love with the time lapse mode...
https://youtu.be/6YGnQqQpjkM
You can do manual video using the V10 apk camera app for non rooted
The photos this beast takes are superb but videos are kinda "meh" but I think it's because of that "steady" feature as it kinda "warps" the video so just OIS is better if you have steady hands. Also thank god for V10 Camera Apk for 1080p 60 FPS video recording...60 fps is sooo beautiful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsMGEg44tPE
While i was driving i saw the mount shaking too much and i thought the result video was going to be really shaky....i couldn't be more wrong OIS did a great job and the video turned out perfect
I'm so glad to see this post and find out about the v10 camera port
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While i was driving i saw the mount shaking too much and i thought the result video was going to be really shaky....i couldn't be more wrong OIS did a great job and the video turned out perfect
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I definitely agree with you. OIS is really doing a great job on this device. :good:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the ZTE Axon 7 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
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ZTE Axon 7 - One stop shop for video recording tests!
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Slo Mo video reel is worthless as the framerates aren't labeled.
Here's a video of a goat drinking it's own urine at 1/12 speed. lol
Kietyo said:
720p/1080p/4K Comparison Video
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Just wondering why 4k looks so much better than 1080p, even when watched on a 1080p screen.
Almost as if they deliberately made video less than 4k look crap.
I wish the audio quality was better. I found out that axon records audio at 96 kbps which is lower than other phones. I wish I can increase the bitrate for audio.
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Just wondering why 4k looks so much better than 1080p, even when watched on a 1080p screen.
Almost as if they deliberately made video less than 4k look crap.
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It has something to do with bitrate. LinusTechTips made a video about this but im not near a computer.
These clips should not be listed as "raw". They should called ungraded or unedited. Too much confusion with RAW.
While the video itself it really nice, and the audio is great in regular settings.... In LOUD settings, such as a full, live band, you get a terrible mic clipping noise.
Here's an example
Video of loud fireworks in Valencia:
I have to set anti-banding to 50Hz (not to auto or 60Hz), there are a lot flickering.
I took a video of starting and running my car after doing a lot of work to it and having it off the road for many weeks. I was very surprised at how well the mics picked up sound. As I moved around the front of the car, many different noises were easily identifiable and extremely clear. I shot it on the snap camera hd app instead of the stock camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlayB_vmkZk&feature=youtu.be
Here's a short vid I took today. Cold start cycle on the car. The phone handles quite a lot of loudness pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0ZRt3fzsOM
I was messing around with the Axon 7 this afternoon. Fitted a phone mount at the top of my front windscreen in the car and took some footage whilst driving with the windows fully open. In all previous phones this resulted in really bad audio with wind noise and vibrations destroying what I would want to hear.
Pleased to say, the recorded audio with the A7 is shockingly good! It's loud and clear with great dynamic range and doesn't pull back with a sudden loud noise. Very real. Will install a crashcam app to see how that looks and sounds, although I have a fairly good dual camera crash cam installed already.
ZTE have implemented audio recording with the DAC very well but the mics must be better than average too.
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It has something to do with bitrate. LinusTechTips made a video about this but im not near a computer.
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