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Im planning on getting the desire, and im REALLY interested in the 720p recording, but from the videos ive seen in youtube they look like like upscaled videos whats the bitrate ? 19-20 fps? also the audio sounds awful, kinda like the omnia hd back in the day
What about the pictures? i HATE the pics taken by my milestone, are the desire pics any better?
For video, the new radio has improved it. Its still not a strong point though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0NlnGUQah4&hd=1
The guy taking this one was trying to put it in some bad shooting situations (direct light, fast movement etc), so you can see what its like when not in ideal conditions.
For pictures, check out the awesome pics thread, it has some really nice ones.
720p video capture is unimpressive on the Desire. You need to be in a very well lit area for the videos to be barely passable. With inadequate light, frame rates plummet. This is a glaring weakness of the device. But fortunately, it isn't a primary concern for me and most other users.
Still captures are average at best. HTC was never known for superb cameras...
The camera itself in the phone is not too bad, its the android camera software that drags it down.
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720p video capture is unimpressive on the Desire. You need to be in a very well lit area for the videos to be barely passable. With inadequate light, frame rates plummet. This is a glaring weakness of the device. But fortunately, it isn't a primary concern for me and most other users.
Still captures are average at best. HTC was never known for superb cameras...
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they better step it up, i find it funny that we used to mock the iphone's camera , and now its probablyh the best cameraphone available out there aside from the n8
What happens if you turn on the LED in dark settings and try 720p ??? does that work ?
this is my test 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1moRohDoEg&hd=1
good enough for mobile imo
Yep, in good lighting 720p recording isn't bad at all, as you rightly say, for mobile.
My only complain is that they could have optimized a bit the codec datarate, especially since they provide you the phone with a class 2 sd card. However I must admit that I've tried to remove A2SD+ and my class 6 transcend turned out to be enough for avoiding stuttering, which occasionally happened before.
The complain mainly stems from the fact that AOSP roms don't have this problem.
Still pictures quality is adequate. If you're into editing your photos then they're quite amenable to post-processing. Videos, on the other hand... well you've heard it from the others already.
here's my first 720 test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7_DlJ53NI
I hate the camera, on such an expensive phone why did they **** up the camera?
le3ky said:
this is my test 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1moRohDoEg&hd=1
good enough for mobile imo
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Why do my 720p videos keep freezing for a second, every 4-5 seconds?
i have actually never had any issues with 720p recording on leodroid's rom. Frame rate is more than just good. As for the camera, its ten time better than droids.
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Why do my 720p videos keep freezing for a second, every 4-5 seconds?
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Have you got A2SD or even worse, A2SD+ (dalvik cache to sd) ?
That can explain it, I think, along with some or a few background applications doing stuff while you record.
And, obviously, a slow sd card.
Not worth, I confirm that 720p is worthless on HTC Desire. Apparently the upgrade is software upscale. There is NOTHING difference in picture quality in video capture between 720p and 800X480 resolution. It's hardware suck and can't bring you any improvement in software. What a shame with "HD" recording in Desire.
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Not worth, I confirm that 720p is worthless on HTC Desire. Apparently the upgrade is software upscale. There is NOTHING difference in picture quality in video capture between 720p and 800X480 resolution. It's hardware suck and can't bring you any improvement in software. What a shame with "HD" recording in Desire.
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Any proof?
There is another thread lying around where some tests indicate that, while 720p isn't HD for sure (nor is the ifonz one), there is a higher level of detail compared to 480.
There might be some upscaling or not, you might find it useful or not, but there is definitely some more quality in the image.
the problem seems to be the framerate and the SOUND, how can they screw it so bad? awful sound.
whats the problem with the sd card ? if i have a class 2 card for example ( 2 mbps) and the video is supossed to use 3 mbps what happens?
Hey guys, the camera seems pretty good on this phone when I'm taking pictures, however when I am taking videos it almost seems kind of grainy even though its suppose to be 1080p. Anyone else have the similar or different experiences? Please share!
Grain doesn't have much to do with resolution. What affects grain directly is light. Low light will give you more grain. Period. This is valid for professional cameras as well.
Shoot a video I good light and the quality is excellent.
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
How do you switch to 720p mode?
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Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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efarley said:
Don't use 1080p it's crap and makes videos look awful. They decided to zoom the picture in about 40-60% and not allow you to zoom out. As a result everything looks grainy and out of focus.
Set ur camera to 720p look at how much you can see, how clear the image is how sharp the colors are etc and then switch to 1080p and you will find all the sudden you zoomed way in and can't zoom out and the picture quality dropped about 60%.
They claim 1080p support but it's a lie since they zoom in and give you a MUCH lower quality video than 720p does.
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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I'm pretty sure that's just a big nasty bug. The camera sensor and chipset are all very capable of 1080. It seems like the 1080 is zoomed into the amount of area that 720 would take in the middle of a 1080 image...I won't say it's an honest mistake, as it's borderline retarded...but, if it is dumping 1080p worth of data it can certainly do 1080p video...that's only 2mp and the tough part is writing that to storage without it getting skippy...and clearly that can be done.
Though I am assuming it is writing a 1080p file...has anyone checked?
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GoPro HD also does this. Few of my friend's digital point and shoots did this as well. So, it's a sensor issue, not a software one.
I posted this before:
1080p:
http://youtu.be/c4AtsXjyKhY?hd=1
720p:
http://youtu.be/buHigxvlnfo?hd=1
Pardon my breathing, sinuses FTL
I really wish there was a way an external microphone could be used while recording video.
My problem is with the recorded audio. Has anyone found an app that let's you control audio gain. Serious clipping for live music records.
Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
The graininess is caused by poor lighting. I went to sea world with my girl this week and all the outside video's came out amazing. But, inside shots with low light all came out very grainy. I can't blame the sensor too much because like someone mention before the same happens on high end camera's. But, also remember professional shots are taking with very high end lighting equipment.
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Its the quality (bitrate) in which the audio is recorded. At stock, its set at 64kbps and a sample rate of 44kHZ which is pretty subpar.
There's a hacked camera apk that lets you record audio at 194kbps with sample rate of 48kHz and also raises the video bitrate by a tad as well.
A tremendous difference in quality.
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I can't seem to find anything like what you're referring to anywhere in the market or our app section. Got a link or a file name? Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
and if u search our ET4G forum, you'll see a thread about it.
MUST BE ROOTED.
The quality of 1080p video is terrible, according to Eatmycomputer:
http://eatmycomputer.com/2011/11/20/eatmycomputer-take-the-galaxy-nexus-for-a-1080p-walk-round-town-london-town-that-is/
Maybe they got an early pre-relise device or is it always this bad? Can someone who has a Galaxy Nexus check it out?
watched it and about 10 others on 4 phones, they are all pretty crappy, even the 4s which seems to be the best...
it will never be production quality, but it is 1000x better than what i have got so far with the Desire so will be happy with that.
The quality isn't poor so much as the auto-exposure settings which is resulting in poor shots, this could be improved with software updates or by manually setting the exposure.
1080p video samples, raw and unedited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvaL4I4NCf4
It feels like taking the video under water,
and most of the sample video on Youtube are the same.
The video quality of this phone is indeed terrible
It's a cellphone. Don't be blinded by 1080p!!11
Jerky video no matter you slice it. It is what it is.
-GNEX owner
Just tried it and it doesn't seem that bad. At least it's continuous autofocus.
Just like with photos, resolution does not equal quality.
I dont see why everyone thinks its so bad, for a cell phone its pretty damn good for everyday use since you will pretty much carry it everywhere with you, much better camera then my thunderbolt had thats for sure.
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Just like with photos, resolution does not equal quality.
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Yes, I don't mind having 5MP before seeing the video sample.
The "under-water" like feature for video is not acceptable at all.
Hello,
Im looking to upgrade my Nexus 5 and ive been going through lots and lots of reviews, videos, pictures of many of the new phones out right now. Z5, S6, Nexus 5X.
I really like the Nexus 5X despite some of it shortcomings but one thing i REALLY have a hard time accepting is how shaky the picture is when recording video compared to iphone 6s, Sony Z5 and others.
Here is a video showing it against the Moto X pure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_zth08zFLw
The Nexus 5x i horrible Is that something we will just have to accept because it lacks OIS or is it possible to fix software wise in a camera update or using a 3rd party camera app. I must say that in its current form its unusable.
Regards
Jacob
indeed it is shaky...
haven't tried it but this one has video stabilization - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Maybe someone with a nexus 5x could try opencamera to record a video and post the result?
Yeah I was hoping 1080p would at least get decent software stability. It has enough pixels for it. ?
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
Does anyone know? Anyone tried opencamera?
Just my $.02. It was my understanding from the Launch event that it doesn't have image stabilization. Something about how it didn't need it with the upgraded light gathering capability of the camera.
The Moto X pure doesn't have OIS either, it's done in software
I'll just splurge for a gimbal. LOL
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
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Does anyone know? Anyone tried opencamera?
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Just tried it and it seems decent. Good thing is that OpenCamera properly implements the sensor orientation detection, so the preview and resulting files are correct. It has experimental support for Camera 2 API, which needs to be enabled in order to expose the EIS setting.
At high resolution (4k), there's significant lag that's recorded in the videos with the EIS enabled. Google did say the 808 couldn't handle it; maybe they weren't just blowing smoke?
At 1080p, it seems to help reduce the shakiness by a fair amount; it's no OIS replacement for sure, but I'd say better than not having anything.
Funny how google said larger pixels negated the need for OIS. Did anyone really believe them? Did HTC not try the super mega sized pixels before?
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Funny how google said larger pixels negated the need for OIS. Did anyone really believe them? Did HTC not try the super mega sized pixels before?
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From pics I saw it does fine without OIS. But videos would have benefited. And yes they coined it as "ultra-pixels".
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
Look at this. Amazing:
http://www.frequency.com/video/nexus-5x-stabilized-4k-footage-using/244831773?cid=5-9852
Hi
Evo_Shift said:
Funny how google said larger pixels negated the need for OIS. Did anyone really believe them? Did HTC not try the super mega sized pixels before?
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OIS is only really of benefit for photos at shutter speeds less than 1/60th second, unless you have a zoom lens, where it is helpful at higher shutter speeds, as the more you are zoomed, the more amplified any body shake is. For smartphones with their wide angle view, camera shake is not too much of a problem for most typical situations, and any daytime scene OIS is completely pointless as the shutter speed is plenty high enough to freeze out any camera shake. The larger pixels help as the ISO can be higher without too much noise meaning a faster shutter speed can be used.
For video the situation is different as images are taken over time, so it's the movement in camera position between each picture that needs to smoothed, although the fashion these days on most documentaries and TV shows is to deliberately shake the camera around until it's a nauseating mess with whip zooms into the mix Still it's a good indicator I find for knowing the program is trash and not worth watching :victory:
OIS in smart phones helps a little with video, but the tiny lens optics and limited movement means they don't do nearly as well as a dedicated camcorder with OIS, which gives some amazing results. The link to the stablised 5X video is using a $300 device, so if anyone is that serious about their smart phone video, then for that money we might as well take a much bigger step in image quality and convenience and features and get a dedicated camcorder.
The elephant in the room with the Nexus 6P is EIS, this is the poor mans image stabilizer, yes it does help stabilize the video to a certain degree, but to do this it has to crop the image. It appears to be doing this the cheap way in software (hence needing the powerful chip), taking a 1080P video, then zooming into so it can have a window of view to pan around in, this means the resulting video has less resolution, see the clips here https://youtu.be/HV4rcFuUlUc?t=246 and compare the detail between the two, there is a drop in resolution on the 6P. Better EIS systems capture a larger image at the sensor, then would track and pan a 1920x1080 window across it so no resolution drop, but that requires more low level work with the camera hardware and dedicated chips to do a good job.
Record a 1080P video with the 5X, upload to YouTube and get it to apply stabilization and it will do the same thing, may even turn out better than the 6P EIS as it doesn't need to be done in real time so a bit more care can be taken.
Will the 6P stabilize 4K video? I somehow doubt it has the power to do that, so for 4K it's an even playing field between the two.
Regards
Phil
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Record a 1080P video with the 5X, upload to YouTube and get it to apply stabilization and it will do the same thing, may even turn out better than the 6P EIS as it doesn't need to be done in real time so a bit more care can be taken.
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Hmm, aren't those phones using the much higher resolution of the sensor (at least about 4k) to stabilize the video by changing the captured frame on the sensor corresponding to the phones movement? At least i thought that's the reasoning why this works only up to 1080p (which would be preserved, in that case).
I think this could be quite useful for the next Nexus http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/09/imint-wants-to-bring-real-time-video-stabilization-to-android/
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Samsung Galaxy S7 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better
Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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Here's a 4k video taken on my s7 on Friday night of my son racing his Sworkz s104 Evo A final
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Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0
I compared the video quality of Samsung Galaxy S7 vs Lg G3. For the same HD video on youtube, LG G3 provide crisp and colourful output, while S7 video is saturated and pixelated. I am disappointed with S7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldBSkz6UCo
Check this CInematic 4K Video which is filmed with the Galaxy S7
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Video from a concert this past weekend.Straight out of the camera.Shot in QHD.Given the conditions I was very impressed with the video and sound quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZaK8hdQt0
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Jairus24 said:
Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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Pretty damn good man !
Hmm.. it's funny to see that those that are disappointed do not share an example, while the enthusiastics do.
This way it's impossible to compare.
Jairus24 said:
Here's mine shot in 4k with post-processing added in Sony Vegas Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDiSAoFMiU
Non post-processed version are also available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kiV0O7GvfU
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how do you add the cinematic look
I moved several weeks ago from iphone6+ to S7.
Yesterday I attended a live music show and recording on S7 were horrible (distorted) compared to previous iphone 5 and 6 experience I had.
Here are 2 from yesterday that are bad
https://youtu.be/YZG2LqMMraM
https://youtu.be/Kba-CLtZJlE
and 2 good with 5 and 6
https://youtu.be/LyrlLPP2zpE
https://youtu.be/fiJofpOj9ko
video issue
s3icc0 said:
I am really dissapointed here ...
4k - probably good I tried it but have no intention to use it - maybe in few years ..
1080 60fps - too much detail lost
1080 30fps - it looks like painting ... terrible - my s4 is doing nicer videos ... or even my iphone 6
720 240fps - well iphone does better
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My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up
supremeweb said:
My video doen't work at all, I have got phone and tablet galaxy, all the time some bugs coming up
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What not working?
4k at night: https://youtu.be/EW8qM1ggYB8
240fps at day: https://youtu.be/0Q5HAggaDwg
For me it is much better then lg g3 does, i never try iphone
While the sharpening look really bad in photos, Galaxy S7's video quality is superb.
Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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Still sound is awful shooting concerts, iphone is superb in this feature... so annoying
[email protected] said:
Hello. Video stabilization doesn't work at all. Even if I use HD with the setting checked...
The video shakes at every step I make.
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I read somewhere that the video stabilization option in the menu is for electronic image stabilization. Supposedly OIS is always on and doesn't react the same with EIS enabled.. Try shooting a video with that box unchecked and see if it's any better
my thoughts on S7 video recording
Over the last 2+ years, I had an S5+ (G901F). The one with SD805 and the IMX240 (same sensor powering Note 4). Recently, due to an accident which resulted in destroying my S5+, I bought an S7 (Exynos version...and quite possibly an ISOcell sensor or whatever Sammy calls it these days) I don't think I ve got the IMX260 powering my unit, so I can't make any comments regarding the hardware...
OS wise - it was 4.4.4 and 6.0.1 on my S5+ and Android N (pre-installed) on my S7.
Since I am a hardcore video shooter with my phone, I can share my impressions of the S7. In short, I was rather disappointed.
Video rec modes remain the same for both i.e. 4K, 1080p 30/60, 720p...don't care
I was expecting similar output (if not better) from my S7 compared to my S5+. But no. After triple-checking on the camera/video/photo settings, I was still recording videos where compression artifacts are clearly visible. Usually in darker areas (but not always the case) - sometimes even in areas that you d believe the camera is focusing on. I m not saying that this is a sensor issue, but rather more of a post-processing / compression issue. If I freeze the video at certain parts, I can see in a frame, compression artifacts such as the ones you d get from a highly-compressed JPEG. Which makes me wonder why didn't I see any of those whilst I was checking on the video quality produced by the S7, compared to other flagship models.
I am not sure if that quality drop between the two flagships is justified by the fact Samsung decided to move from 16MP -> 12MP, or the software i.e. Nougat vs Marshmallow (...or both). For all I know, frame quality under video recording, has significantly dropped in the S7, compared to the much older S5+. (don't know what the case was for S6, never actually tested it...) Just to clarify - this is definately not a stabilization issue (phone position is fixed whilst shooting).
The good parts - obviously - the S7 is very good under low light conditions (both video rec and photo shoting). Focus and photo shooting is amazingly fast. Two areas that it clearly smokes the S5+ as far as the camera is concerned. But that's about it really. And I d rather have the 'slower' S5+, rather than the heavily grained videos the S7 produces. Being able to shot better in the dark is always a bonus, but not so important to me. I m usually shooting [email protected] Sometimes 4K, but under good light only (due to lack of HDR whilst at 2160p). [email protected] video shooting quality seems like a 'tie' between the S7 / S5+. Both very smooth and similar amount of details preserved in the video. But yet again, I m not shooting high-speed moving objects so as to justify shooting at 60fps. But I m expecting better quality per-frame whilst at 30fps. And at 30fps, the S5+ produces better results.
Also, the video trimmer under S7/Nougat seems to lack the Rotate feature. Don't know if it was moved under the Movie Maker app (which I haven't yet downloaded). Video processing seems to be much slower now. Trimming under 4.4.4 was at least twice as fast compared to what it is now! I am really curious if trimming under more recent versions of Android actually re-compresses the output file. If that's the case, that would be discraseful to say the least...can anyone confirm this? I will at some point test this myself and post the results.
Just to clarify. I m not saying that recorded videos using the S7 are bad - I m saying that it lacks the quality per-frame of the ones shot by the S5. I very rarely recall seeing compression artifacts in videos captured by my older S5+ and that is why is pretty obvious to me now. And I can't explain it. If it's not a sensor issue, could it be that the compression ratio has been increased? If that's the case - it's a good thing - as it could be fixed in a later release. Has anyone witnessed video quality degredation from Marshmallow ->> Nougat?
Please share your thoughts.