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Nexus One steps up to 720p HD video

hey,
found this news a few minutes ago...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/nexus-one-steps-up-to-720p-hd-video-thanks-to-latest-hack-video/ or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
the nexus has the camera as the desire, or not?
so i think a port isn't impossible !?
raangu

look here Nexus 720p at XDA
This Threat in Desire Forum

The creator has stated that does not work on desire, but he will release a fix for it later tonight

Oooh, I think I'll be rooting very soon for this then!!

Judging by the quality of the sample video, its pretty clear why HTC never enabled 720p on these cameras, it just isnt real 720p, its just upscaling the already mediocre video quality of the camera to a higher resolution, which results in even more fragments and color distortion.
I seriously do not understand why people freak out because of this.

Post up video, before and after?
We could post up videos, before upscaling and after upscaling, that would be very interesting.

tbh, it's not exactly the reason I bought a Desire...it's a phone so as long as it can make calls and receive SMS messages it fulfills it's purpose IMO. Email, Internet, etc. are just bonuses

I guess if that is the video mode doing 720p it would annoy people as they said it would be included in a future update, so you would only expect it to be proper hd recording.

Phorz said:
Judging by the quality of the sample video, its pretty clear why HTC never enabled 720p on these cameras, it just isnt real 720p, its just upscaling the already mediocre video quality of the camera to a higher resolution, which results in even more fragments and color distortion.
I seriously do not understand why people freak out because of this.
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Not entirely sure about that. It's well known that the HTC cameras don't work very well in low light conditions and unless I've missed one, all the sample videos are taken indoors without a decent light source. I'm not saying you're wrong, it could very well be as you said. I'd just recommend withholding judgement until we've seen a sample taken under optimal conditions. It'd be great to have 720p even if it only works outdoors in blazing sunshine.
Marc

No phone will do decent hd video in doors in low light just doesn't happen, if you want that you need a high end hd cam corder.

its possible and being worked on but since it requires a kernel mod may take time BUT ... since we have the 2.32.9 kernel ported now it should easy to replicate

Maybe it is a bitrate problem?
Don't know if he increased it?

It would be nice to have the original recorded video to properly analyze it..if this whole 720p thing is some sort of upscale imho it is pretty useless..

Since the camera's (alleged) native resolution is 5 megapixels (ie. has way more than 720 lines), there is no theoretical need for upscaling (in fact you could go much higher than 720p without upscaling.
If the camera actually isn't 5 megapixel (and upscales photos to that resolution), then who knowsif it's worth it....

I think this is next step what dev guys will give us,supprise

tbh, it's not exactly the reason I bought a Desire...it's a phone so as long as it can make calls and receive SMS messages it fulfills it's purpose IMO. Email, Internet, etc. are just bonuses
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Why would you get a smartphone just to make calls and send text. Plenty of decnt feature phones serve that purpose. Personally I don't use the camera on a phone and it's not a selling point. But beng able to hack my phone to take 720 video would be cool, even if I'm not going to use it. It's about the being able to and having fun. Also showing off to all my mates who have closed iToys! ;-)
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720p is less than 1mp, so even if the camera were 1.3mp, it could still do 720p without upscaling.
5mp is more than twice as much as 1080p, the real limitation is processing power for encoding and storage space.

ZoZo2 said:
720p is less than 1mp, so even if the camera were 1.3mp, it could still do 720p without upscaling.
5mp is more than twice as much as 1080p, the real limitation is processing power for encoding and storage space.
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Well, while you are right in some ways, you are so wrong from a technical point of view. Capturing Video is a totally different story than taking photos because taking a picture with autofocus every 2-3 seconds, and capturing 25-30 pictures every second... you cannot compare that, so dont let yourself be blindfolded by megapixels. The size of the CCD elements, and the time theyre exposed to light PLUS the optics is what makes pictures/videos. And when you look at the size of those things in a mobile phone, you get the idea why smartphones are still miiiiiiles away from even midclass digital cameras...

it is all about processor man ,lenses has an effect ,but processor is the main

[Q] Is the poor video framerate gonna get corrected in future?

Hi everyone.
HTC Desire is being found in my country better than other android phones, but I have a serious problem with its bad video recording framerate (15). I tried to download a video sample, and it was really bad as I thought (no offense to the fans ).
My phone's video recording ability is important for me, so please don't give answers like: this is a phone, go get a camcorder, ...
Some people say that it will have HD 720P support in future firmware updates, but I wanna know is there a plan to improve the framerate as well?
Thanks.

As the phone records direct to the SD card I would suggest trying a faster class of card and see if that affects things at all.
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mahi58 said:
Hi everyone.
HTC Desire is being found in my country better than other android phones, but I have a serious problem with its bad video recording framerate (15). I tried to download a video sample, and it was really bad as I thought (no offense to the fans ).
My phone's video recording ability is important for me, so please don't give answers like: this is a phone, go get a camcorder, ...
Some people say that it will have HD 720P support in future firmware updates, but I wanna know is there a plan to improve the framerate as well?
Thanks.
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the desire already has 720p recording, but keep in mind its limited by its hardware, 1 ghz isnt alot to encode HD and i know the iphone has better HD recording but i think that has somthing to do with its improved gpu, recording at lower resolution is flawless so why not do that?

Galaxy S and iPhone 4 are the first phones that are likely to have the processing power to record 720p with decent framerates. Desire just isn't as powerful, no matter how it's optimized it won't be perfect, ever.
However, even those two phones (probably) don't benefit much in terms of real video quality by just upping the recorded resolution. Trying to fit even a BAD 720p-capable sensor in a phone form factor isn't going to be a reality for a couple years or so, I'd estimate. Right now you get lots of extra pixels but the picture doesn't actually look any better since the sensor is too small to properly capture such high resolution.
It's something like the "megapixel war" that went on (and continues to some extent) between the major camera vendors. There's not more space to use a better sensor, they just make the sensor try to interpret the light better. Now it's phone vendors claiming they can do 720p when in reality the sensors they're using are probably capable of "real" 480i resolution at best.
But you can see the result... take two shots on the phone of your choice, one at 3mp or so and one at the maximum, then try blowing up the 3mp one to the 10mp one's dimensions and compare them side by side. The resized one looks a bit blurry? Now apply a good professional sharpening filter such as Neat Image. Voila, they're all but identical, just one has lots more garbage data in the form of grain where there was none in real life. The sensor is so tiny there's literally just not enough photons hitting it to do anything but interpolate most of the data, even in daytime outdoors.
I know you said you don't want me to say "just buy a camcorder", but honestly that's the only solution if you want an actual image quality difference. An honest camcorder can give you a million times the feature set and record decent audio too.
Maybe check out the Canon HF100... I think that's what it's called. I have the previous year's model and it's outstanding value. Record true 1080p @ 30fps, and it's so clear you can capture individual frames from it and it looks better than any cameraphone. Takes competent stills too, and I think the most recent model has 20x optical zoom. It's like... 25% larger than an empty toilet paper roll and a little more squarish.

So do you recommend setting to 480?

Thank you guys.
I bought a Google-HTC nexus one today D). I had to buy a used cell phone because of the android phone shortage in my country, and I had to buy it today, so I wasn't able to read any of your posts; but some interesting comments have been posted:
AndroHero
You mean there is a video recording mode for desire, which records in lower resolution, but gives better framerates?
If so, desire would have been a flawless choice for me! Why isn't this mentioned anywhere?
nawoa
Very interesting ideas, thank you.
I have noticed the difference between true 720P videos and the "claimed" ones which are being recorded by cell phones, and, frankly, the difference is obvious.
But still, if you watch the video samples from desire and some competitors (from GSMArena or somewhere), you will confirm that there's a huge difference, which is not being caused by the low resolution, but by the poor framerate in desire.
Desire's video sample is disappointing...
But if it's possible to record in lower resolution and better framerate, then desire would have been a better choice than a second hand nexus one.

Hardware not capable? 1Ghz not fast enough?
Nexus one 720p @27fps!!!
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Galaxy S and iPhone 4 are the first phones that are likely to have the processing power to record 720p with decent framerates.
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IPhone uses its GPU, that's why it performs so well. Guess it's a driver issue. If the desire were to utilize the GPU, the results would be far better.

iPhone and Galaxy S share the same CPU/GPU chip, and as you say, yes it probably leverages the GPU to help encode the data more efficiently. Even if not, it's a more efficient chip which doesn't just mean it's smaller and uses less battery, but it's actually more powerful despite running at the same clock speed.
For example, I had an experience when I was upgrading my computer last year, going from a 65nm CPU to a 45nm CPU with identical architecture, cache, etc. Running at the same clock speed I get ~20% or more of a performance boost just due to the better efficiency.
I can't say how well that carries over to this situation since I'm sure there are more improvements in the transition from "snapdragon" to "hummingbird" than just the newer manufacturing process and more powerful GPU, but you can be sure the CPU gains a significant speed advantage from the lower node even before whatever other enhancements have been made.
"Hardware not capable? 1Ghz not fast enough?
Nexus one 720p @27fps!!!"
I'm not even going to look. 27 FPS isn't any kind of standard and if indeed that framerate is being achieved it's because there is extremely good lighting. Please introduce me to the world you live in where everyone and everything is always in ideal studio lighting... Aside from that I know without clicking the link that it will be terrible-looking.
"But if it's possible to record in lower resolution and better framerate, then desire would have been a better choice than a second hand nexus one."
I don't mean to belittle you but doesn't it go without saying that there is a lower-resolution video mode available when 720p is only just being unlocked in the most recent firmware? Whatever the case, N1 and Desire have identical hardware, if anything you might have a screen you like better than if you bought a Desire today.
Anyway, yes in my opinion you'd normally want to record at a lower resolution. I haven't done a thorough quality comparison but I'd guess you're not going to get much benefit from going above 320x240 for video. The truth is harsh, isn't it? Probably no harm in using the highest image size but it's not going to deliver miracles, especially considering the shutter lag and lack of any kind of image stabilization system.
But on the upside, your videos will have a smaller filesize, the framerate will stay consistent (at least if there is adequate lighting), and as I said earlier there is absolutely no real-world quality difference except that you'll get less battery usage and video noise when recording and playing back lower-resolution video.
Keep in mind, I bought a Desire and I love it. I even think the camera and video is fine. Just keep your expectations reasonable and realize that you need an actual camera to take good pictures/video. It's for Youtube, Facebook, and that kind of thing, not wedding photos.
Canon HF100 (IIRC) is a solid prosumer choice, or if you want something more compact but still versatile you might look at the Sony DSC-TX5, which is very durable and even waterproof to boot. It was just replaced with a newer (but not significantly different) version, so you can get it pretty cheap too. It offers quite good still and video quality (REAL 720p) considering it's like 15mm thick and even has some voodoo real 5x optical zoom system despite not having a moving lens on the front.

This thread's piqued my curiosity a bit, I'm going to try to do a semi-scientific study to determine what the best settings are for the camera.
I can't say exactly how you'll have to configure your new N1 since I'm using the Sense camera app, but you can probably still have an improvement by trying to modify settings in a similar way.
This is very preliminary and I don't have daylight to work with, I'll get into it more tomorrow, but so far:
Contrast is best at its default setting, 0. I'd prefer a -0.5 but no such option exists.
Saturation should be reduced to -1, this will help lessen the strength of noise and also gives somewhat more realistic color.
Sharpness should be reduced to -1, this again will help reduce noise and eliminates the majority of the sharpening artifacts. Going down to -2 helps a bit more but the loss of detail probably isn't worth it.
Brightness should be left at 0, it operates in mysterious ways and doesn't seem to be very helpful regardless of how it's set.
The ideal video capture resolution is 640x480. 320x240 doesn't appear to bring a framerate improvement so there's not really much sense unless you're limited by storage. All capture sizes besides 320x240 and 640x480 operate by simply cropping the image and offer no positive effects that I can see. 720p may add a superficial amount of detail but at the cost of an unsteady framerate and much greater encoding/decoding load (1280x720 vs 640x480, or 921,600 pixels per frame vs 307,200).
Similarly, taking widescreen stills simply crops the top and bottom and results in no quality difference to the part of the full frame that's actually recorded. You're probably best off recording in the sensor's native 4:3 aspect ratio and then cropping them to your taste on your home computer.
The ideal video capture codec is MPEG4 - H.264 offers a nice reduction in filesize but uses too low of a bitrate, resulting in worse quality during fast movement. It is also more work to encode and decode, hurting your battery life.
Obviously don't use zoom for any reason since it's just cropping and resizing with speed as the only consideration. You'll get much better results doing the same thing on your home computer.
Due to the low sensor quality, there's not a whole lot of difference between 5 and 3 megapixel shots, but there's no harm in going with 5mp. The biggest difference is the filesize. Taking a picture of the same subject, my 5mp shots ranged from 2.96mb to 2.38mb, while the 3mp ones were 1.22mb to 0.76mb.
I'd like to revise my earlier statement that the processor isn't capable of encoding 720p30 in realtime. It's now my opinion that the problem is just the camera firmware trying to make sense of the idea that you're asking it to pull usable pixel data for a 1280x720 frame, 30 times a second, from such a tiny sensor. To compensate for the lack of light information, it's forced to reduce the framerate or else the image will turn into a mess of noise. It's probably being a bit too conservative, but not by a lot. The fault lies with the sensor, not the CPU... I think.
Finally, *something* I did seemed to significantly reduce the framerate, or rather, the quality of recording high-motion video. This might be something peculiar to the rom I'm running, or it could be completely in my head, but I think I changed something when I was messing with the various settings and it had a noticeable negative effect.
It's late here now so I'll pick up in the morning but my current wild guesses are:
-Capturing full-frame is more difficult than capturing cropped widescreen, or vice-versa?
-Face detection processing adds too much latency to the recording?
-Flicker reduction should be taken off auto for best performance?
-Custom filtering settings (brightness/sharpness, etc) slow recording down?
-How the camera was focused reduced/increased the encoding difficulty?
-Sharpness settings increased/decreased the amount of frame data needing to be encoded?
-...Or I screwed something up in SetCPU? No... I don't... think so... but it's pretty late. Hmm...
I'll pick up tomorrow. Someone's probably already figured out the perfect settings but I'm pro at being redundant.

The 480p is flawless?
Come on ... It is OK-ish, but not flawless. Especially indoor, even with good lighting still mediocre.
Multimedia is one of the weakest in Android, hopefully Gingerbread will correct this.
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the desire already has 720p recording, but keep in mind its limited by its hardware, 1 ghz isnt alot to encode HD and i know the iphone has better HD recording but i think that has somthing to do with its improved gpu, recording at lower resolution is flawless so why not do that?
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You could try switching to 800 ISO in settings camera mode, then switch back to camcorder mode. I noticed a considerable fps boost even in low light conditions.

I don't mean to belittle you but doesn't it go without saying that there is a lower-resolution video mode available when 720p is only just being unlocked in the most recent firmware? Whatever the case, N1 and Desire have identical hardware, if anything you might have a screen you like better than if you bought a Desire today.
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Before buying nexus one, I checked out desire's specifications in its GSMArena's page, and it said:
Video: Yes, WVGA (800x480 pixels) @ 15fps
So I thought its the only video recording mode that the phone has (I'm not experienced with modern phones). I wasn't expecting a cell phone to have different video capture modes like a digicam/camcorder.
Then, I downloaded a video sample that was being recorded in daylight, but was really disappointing, and the framerate was exactly 15.
And, in my experince, if you buy products, specially high tech products like modern phones relying on the informations that (you think) "go without saying" you're going to be serioulsly punished by your mistakes.
You can only rely on facts...
By the way, thanks for the experiments.

There is some work done in the developement section to optimize HTC camera 720p framerate. A guy obtained 29fps in good lighting (not perfect) but he's still working on it. Funny part is that he blew his desire while testing it.
Check this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynB0M9NeVCE
Regarding the current state, a good sd card can help with the occasional stuttering, or if you can live with AOSP roms, you probably will get a couple fps more. Otherwise you are confined to good lighting to have something on the good side of 20fps.
some examples from my phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6KuPCn6_2M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugjI5ygsXzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssFnQsdz0DE

That change the ISO on the still camera seems a good tip

Marcus2388 said:
You could try switching to 800 ISO in settings camera mode, then switch back to camcorder mode. I noticed a considerable fps boost even in low light conditions.
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Wow, that's really good tip!

when you increase your ISO your picture quality gets poor.
it helps to make videos faster and smooth but with no quality.
Ive just ordered my new Micro Sd card class 10 card... let it come and i'll let you know if something good happens...

malikahsan said:
when you increase your ISO your picture quality gets poor.
it helps to make videos faster and smooth but with no quality.
Ive just ordered my new Micro Sd card class 10 card... let it come and i'll let you know if something good happens...
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I'll disagree about poor quality - it just gets a little worse, even in indoor lightning, but you get an acceptable video, compared to the "very creepy slide show" in auto-ISO mode.

Besides the average framerate, which is probably more due to the lens and partially to the software, isn't the stuttering problem caused by an aggressive datarate when writing to the sd ? If you compare cyanogen 720p recording to HTC, quality isn't really different, but the data-rate codec probably is, and that's why even with a class 2 you avoid stuttering in cyanogen (OD and Defrost too).

Sorry if I up this thread, I found a micro sd card A-Data class 6 with good price, this micro SD can fix the problem recording video a 720p?
Thanks to all

Camcorder

Anyone really annoyed by the camcorder on this device? My videos record and play-back really choppy on my device AND my computer. Especially when shooting in HD.
Coming from the Fascinate, it's a huge step back. Why does it record in .3GP? Even when shooting HD! Could 3GP be the culprit?

Someone over at the AC forums suggested that it may be due to the class of SD Card it shipped with. That it can't write to the SD Card fast enough. Going to try it with my Fascinate's SD Card. I'll report back.

I too came over from the Fascinate and have not had this issue using the SD card I had with my Fascinate.
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I've only done a few 30-ish second videos, pretty sure stock settings, and haven't had any issues. I may have to try again and will report back.

Havent had any issues with camera or video.
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It could, very well, be your storage not being able to keep up. If there's no buffer left due to slow storage writes, then it has to throw out data.
I definitely haven't had trouble with playback but I haven't really messed with recording that much. I'm not using the card that came with the phone either as I have a class 4 32gb that I purchased for my previous phone. I'll do some testing with it today sometime.

So when I used my other SD card, recording and playback was smooth—however, I would still get the "wobbly" image when moving the camcorder quickly, but that I can live with.
Definitely appears to have just been an issue with the shipped sandisk SD Card.

The "wobbly" is an effect of the sensor itself, and how well the imaging processor (not the CPU) can process the sensor information. Cheap camera setups (which this likely has) will have a more pronounced "wobbly" effect in video, and may display the effect in photos where there's really fast movement (think helicopter blade rotating). Even the iPhone has this problem, as well as many dedicated CCD based digital cameras. The effect actually has a name, but I can't remember it.

Side note:
I'm new to Android and the Dinc2 is my first device. I love the quality of the recorded video, but it appears that .3gp can't be natively uploaded to Facebook. I can use a File Manager to rename to .mp4 but I wondered if there was an easier way?
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A quick look at Facebooks FAQ says that .3gp is supported, but I got errors when trying to upload using the Android Facebook App, the browser on my Dinc2 and Firefox on my MacBook Pro. It would only upload after I renamed the extension on my MBP.

I just now did a bit of testing.
The wobbly problem is pronounced in all resolutions that I tested. It's even visible in the preview. This tells me the imaging platform used is not very good, which is kinda unfortunate. Another unfortunate thing about this fact is should this get rooted and we gain access to things like CM, the camera will still have this problem.
I mentioned the wobbly problem is likely to affect photos. In my testing, it did. This is definitely not a high action camera setup. I kinda figured my ceiling fan test would show this, but did not expect my manual panning to, and it did.
One thing to note is my testing was done in ambient household lighting. Results may differ in bright sunlight. However, I don't remember my Eris having this much wobbly effect. Of course, it could have had a CMOS sensor rather than a CCD sensor.
I've pretty much exclusively used Kingston SDHC and microSDHC cards over the years because not a single one has failed me (yeah, watch something catastrophic happen now that I said that). I'm using a Kingston Class 4 32gb microSDHC card and had no problems recording video. Recording at 720p with the level of compression being used is probably pushing the limits of this card, but playback was, indeed, smooth. The recording test took place with about 10gb of usage already (music).
Edit: I should note that if you're not moving around a lot, particularly left and right, the wobbly effect won't be near as pronounced. It's still one of the worst I've seen in this regard.

Getting a HD camcorder is taking a step backward in Video Quality. HD camcorders Interpolate the video, which means of every 25 frames of video, 4 or 5 frames are taken by the lens assembly, the other frames in between these are filled in by the camcorder inner circuitry, thus giving you not true video. This happens in every video they take. I will not mention any thing, other than to say, getting a HD camcorder, make sure you have the computer that handle HD video, one clue, You need a multi core processor and both an audio and sound card also. Any thing less and you will have problems with the footage a HD camcorder makes. And Windows Maker does not work with HD video.

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Getting a HD camcorder is taking a step backward in Video Quality. HD camcorders Interpolate the video, which means of every 25 frames of video, 4 or 5 frames are taken by the lens assembly, the other frames in between these are filled in by the camcorder inner circuitry, thus giving you not true video. This happens in every video they take. I will not mention any thing, other than to say, getting a HD camcorder, make sure you have the computer that handle HD video, one clue, You need a multi core processor and both an audio and sound card also. Any thing less and you will have problems with the footage a HD camcorder makes. And Windows Maker does not work with HD video.
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Long rant for just a phone camcorder lol
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ankaka said:
Getting a HD camcorder is taking a step backward in Video Quality. HD camcorders Interpolate the video, which means of every 25 frames of video, 4 or 5 frames are taken by the lens assembly, the other frames in between these are filled in by the camcorder inner circuitry, thus giving you not true video. This happens in every video they take. I will not mention any thing, other than to say, getting a HD camcorder, make sure you have the computer that handle HD video, one clue, You need a multi core processor and both an audio and sound card also. Any thing less and you will have problems with the footage a HD camcorder makes. And Windows Maker does not work with HD video.
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I've got a sound card, but where in the world do I get an audio card???
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ankaka said:
Getting a HD camcorder is taking a step backward in Video Quality. HD camcorders Interpolate the video, which means of every 25 frames of video, 4 or 5 frames are taken by the lens assembly, the other frames in between these are filled in by the camcorder inner circuitry, thus giving you not true video.
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That is, most certainly, NOT how they work. When they say the video is interpolated, it means it's being recorded at something less than the full HD resolution, and an imaging processor on the camera increases the resolution of each frame on the fly. There are various techniques used to scale up an image, analyzing surrounding pixels to more accurately fill in missing information.
While it may technically be true that only 1/4 of the pixel information produced is actually recorded through the lens, the rest of it being produced through the resing up process, this happens on a frame-by-frame basis and is entirely different than only recording 1 out of every 5 frames and trying to produce the intermediate frames in their entirety. There are techniques to do that on a real computer, but no camera does that as a way to produce 25 or 30 fps video from 4 or 5 frames per second source.
I'll leave the rest of your post alone...
As for the camera on this phone, it's very highly effected by the amount of ambient light. It works surprisingly well outdoors where there's ample light, but quickly degrades as the light drops. Also, there is a definite difference between the camera/camcorder apps on stock Sense and AOSP based roms.

Video recording quality on the Nexus

Anyone care to speculate on the quality of this. Is it likely to be better than the GS2 or about the same?
I have only seen one sample video & not much could be judged from that.

Super Chimp said:
Anyone care to speculate on the quality of this. Is it likely to be better than the GS2 or about the same?
I have only seen one sample video & not much could be judged from that.
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1080p. All said, pretty much.

Its pretty damn good. From tge videos i ve watched it seems like there is a missing frame here and there but nothing to cry about. Excellent quality for a phone.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

video quality really isn't all that important to me, but i'd love for someone to upload an uncompressed video at full resolution to have a look at it instead of seeing youtube's rendition of the footage.
eric b

pukemon said:
Its pretty damn good. From tge videos i ve watched it seems like there is a missing frame here and there but nothing to cry about. Excellent quality for a phone.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
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I am hopefully on the video recording front as recent reports on the still camera quality seem pretty positive. Shows that at least this time they have put some consideration into this side of things. Not something that could be said about my Nexus One.

Ive seen and heard mixed reports in still shots quality. Even the negatives ive heard were somebody too focused on not being 8mp and everybody pretty much saying its a way better than average 5mp shooter. Definitely n1 was not great. Atrix camera is average but ive taken some decent videos, in broad daylight. Cant say much about low light shots. They either come out great or blurry. Im have hopes for the nexus. .and even more hope we'll get a 32 gig gsm version so we have room to record videos.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

Ive seen and heard mixed reports in still shots quality. Even the negatives ive heard were somebody too focused on not being 8mp and everybody pretty much saying its a way better than average 5mp shooter. Definitely n1 was not great. Atrix camera is average but ive taken some decent videos, in broad daylight. Cant say much about low light shots. They either come out great or blurry. Im have hopes for the nexus. .and even more hope we'll get a 32 gig gsm version so we have room to record videos.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

e-dub, goto gsmarena and look at their Nexus hands-on they have a full res mp4 you can download.

This video is fairly good at showing real world expectations. Includes close up focus, colors, outdoors, low light high light transitions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mP3_6nandc

Can you find camera/video options similar to say the GS2 or is it still a more pared down experience as per the earlier Nexus devices, I don't know the full details of how many options they have added into the basic ICS camera/video interface?

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This video is fairly good at showing real world expectations. Includes close up focus, colors, outdoors, low light high light transitions
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Not exactly low light, that room will be very well lit from all the sunshine coming through the windows...
I'd be so keen for this phone if it could take reasonable night photos.

Maddmatt said:
Not exactly low light, that room will be very well lit from all the sunshine coming through the windows...
I'd be so keen for this phone if it could take reasonable night photos.
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Is it using a backlit sensor?

kwurky said:
e-dub, goto gsmarena and look at their Nexus hands-on they have a full res mp4 you can download.
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nice one, thanks!
eric b

1080p means nothing. Its about image stability and fps. Most android phones have horrendous fpS making videos look like they're dropping frames and people skipping around the scene.

Can't post a link atm, but youtube Samsung Galaxy Nexus 1080p full HD video sample and the second video has a good low-light video recording, pretty damn good too imo.

xManMythLegend said:
1080p means nothing. Its about image stability and fps. Most android phones have horrendous fpS making videos look like they're dropping frames and people skipping around the scene.
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That's what I was concerned about.

Super Chimp said:
Is it using a backlit sensor?
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Doubt it, they would have made a fuss about it during the presentation if it was.

JCopernicus said:
Doubt it, they would have made a fuss about it during the presentation if it was.
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True enough. Eager to see some camera & video examples from this.

Super Chimp said:
True enough. Eager to see some camera & video examples from this.
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GSMarena put up some pictures and videos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_hands_on-review-663p4.php
They look alright to me, nothing to write home about.

JCopernicus said:
GSMarena put up some pictures and videos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_hands_on-review-663p4.php
They look alright to me, nothing to write home about.
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That video is what I thought...choppy and horrible.(boththe Yt but the original file)
If you can drop to 5mp for speed you can drop to 720p for a steady frame rate.

Terrible 1080p video quality

The quality of 1080p video is terrible, according to Eatmycomputer:
http://eatmycomputer.com/2011/11/20/eatmycomputer-take-the-galaxy-nexus-for-a-1080p-walk-round-town-london-town-that-is/
Maybe they got an early pre-relise device or is it always this bad? Can someone who has a Galaxy Nexus check it out?

watched it and about 10 others on 4 phones, they are all pretty crappy, even the 4s which seems to be the best...

it will never be production quality, but it is 1000x better than what i have got so far with the Desire so will be happy with that.

The quality isn't poor so much as the auto-exposure settings which is resulting in poor shots, this could be improved with software updates or by manually setting the exposure.

1080p video samples, raw and unedited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvaL4I4NCf4
It feels like taking the video under water,
and most of the sample video on Youtube are the same.
The video quality of this phone is indeed terrible

It's a cellphone. Don't be blinded by 1080p!!11
Jerky video no matter you slice it. It is what it is.
-GNEX owner

Just tried it and it doesn't seem that bad. At least it's continuous autofocus.

Just like with photos, resolution does not equal quality.

I dont see why everyone thinks its so bad, for a cell phone its pretty damn good for everyday use since you will pretty much carry it everywhere with you, much better camera then my thunderbolt had thats for sure.

ptscon said:
Just like with photos, resolution does not equal quality.
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Yes, I don't mind having 5MP before seeing the video sample.
The "under-water" like feature for video is not acceptable at all.