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H932 t-mobile v30/v30+ owners....

T-Mobile has really cracked down on our ability to root our phones. I'm not sure if I'll be willing to go with a TMO LG once again simply because they have made things very difficult for us.
Next time I will go with an unlocked phone but unfortunately a lot of the unlocked phones may or may not have all the bands that T-Mobile uses. The international unlocked version of the lgv30 allegedly have the capability of using 600 megahertz but to my knowledge no one has actually succeeded in testing that alleged ability out.
The new OnePlus phones do have the 600 megahertz ability which is nice but OnePlus phones in my opinion do not offer all the bells and whistles that a Samsung Galaxy S9 or an LG v30 plus has to offer.
LG has certainly disappointed me with their international version not by default having 600 megahertz. And T-Mobile has definitely disappointed me by controlling what a bought outright phone owner can do with their phone.

igotroot said:
T-Mobile has really cracked down on our ability to root our phones. I'm not sure if I'll be willing to go with a TMO LG once again simply because they have made things very difficult for us.
Next time I will go with an unlocked phone but unfortunately a lot of the unlocked phones may or may not have all the bands that T-Mobile uses. The international unlocked version of the lgv30 allegedly have the capability of using 600 megahertz but to my knowledge no one has actually succeeded in testing that alleged ability out.
The new OnePlus phones do have the 600 megahertz ability which is nice but OnePlus phones in my opinion do not offer all the bells and whistles that a Samsung Galaxy S9 or an LG v30 plus has to offer.
LG has certainly disappointed me with their international version not by default having 600 megahertz. And T-Mobile has definitely disappointed me by controlling what a bought outright phone owner can do with their phone.
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Well. My OnePlus 6 has all the bells and whistles I need like bottom mounted headphone jack, flat screen (not curved edges), unlocked bootloader with official TWRP, regular updates (treble support), equalizer for headphone jack (something that is a huge let down on my V30), very low amount of bloatware, stock android (mostly), notification toggle slider key, amazing battery life, immense performance, dual SIM option since I have 4 active SIM cards, 8gb RAM/128gb storage, insanely strong network connections via WiFi (490mbps) & LTE (125mbps at times) including a great connection in underground train stations, great GPS, Android 8.1 instead of buggy/laggy 8.0, and mostly everything else I use. I can't think of anything the V30 has that I need that the OnePlus 6 doesn't. Sure wireless charging, but I've used it once 7months ago for 9minutes. Dash charging is crazy fast!
It's just too bad that LG won't update the V30 & G6 with Treble support, I mean OnePlus just pushed treble support to older devices! LOL
Sucks I have to stop being an LG "fanboy" but I'm done buying carrier flagships now. But the v30 is still really good.
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brossovitch said:
Well. My OnePlus 6 has all the bells and whistles I need like bottom mounted headphone jack, flat screen (not curved edges), unlocked bootloader with official TWRP, regular updates (treble support), equalizer for headphone jack (something that is a huge let down on my V30), very low amount of bloatware, stock android (mostly), notification toggle slider key, amazing battery life, immense performance, dual SIM option since I have 4 active SIM cards, 8gb RAM/128gb storage, insanely strong network connections via WiFi (490mbps) & LTE (125mbps at times) including a great connection in underground train stations, great GPS, Android 8.1 instead of buggy/laggy 8.0, and mostly everything else I use. I can't think of anything the V30 has that I need that the OnePlus 6 doesn't. Sure wireless charging, but I've used it once 7months ago for 9minutes. Dash charging is crazy fast!
It's just too bad that LG won't update the V30 & G6 with Treble support, I mean OnePlus just pushed treble support to older devices! LOL
Sucks I have to stop being an LG "fanboy" but I'm done buying carrier flagships now. But the v30 is still really good.
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But no QHD display, no Qi wireless charging, no IP68 waterproofing.
I detest OnePlus almost as much as Apple because they won't give customers premium features. At least Apple finally gave users Qi wireless charging -- but OnePlus won't. Apple at least gives IP67.
I'm also not going to dump all my QuickCharge chargers for proprietary Dash chargers.
I also don't like that the often cheat at benchmarks tests.
I would buy Samsung before OnePlus, in that they have QHD display, Qi wireless charging, IP68, etc. They're a real premium phone, like LG.

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But no QHD display, no Qi wireless charging.
I detest OnePlus almost as much as Apple because they won't give customers premium features. At least Apple finally gave users Qi wireless charging -- but OnePlus won't.
I'm also not going to dump all my QuickCharge chargers for proprietary Dash chargers.
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Wireless charging has no use for me as I've used it for less than 10min of my entire life.
And larger than 1080p doesn't matter on a screen less than 62 inches.
All OEMs cheat on benchmark, they just push to max settings. No biggie.
My V30 charger chsrges my OP6 faster than it charges my V30. You don't NEED to use dash charger at all, people that say and think so are idiots and you shouldn't listen to them! Yes dash is faster in comparison but quick charge works just fine.
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Also like to agree that OnePlus isn't at the 'premium' level yet.
Returned my op6 to keep v30.
V30 screen is better and supports daydream
Size is better for me op6 is a hair to big.
Prefer no notch
Vibrate motor is the op6 is Mickey mouse
LTE radio is the same as sd845 in v30
I think the v30 camera is better and op6 has two cameras but no wide angle which makes no sense
Op is making strides but they're not there yet. When I returned the device I told them I'd pay $200 more for $200 more phone.
I'm thinking that in October pixel 3 will be the phone to beat. If not, I'll wait till 2019 with v30

Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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I didn't get a chance to, no. I used it as a daily with root for about a week and a half. Received my v30 during that time (for $325) and it was a no brainier deciding which one to keep for me.

Bought a 6 which arrives tomorrow so I'll put it thru it's paces. I do like my V30 but I also love root and flashing ROMs and the fact that my T-Mobile V30 is still locked down with no solution for it in the near future is frustrating.
Thanks for taking the time to reply bud.
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Many good points raised here. I really like my v30 plus. Even tho it's stock, it's the best phone I've had thus far.
Time will tell what's next.
I'd like to sample an OP6 but they aren't found in local stores. It's almost a leap of faith if you don't know anyone that owns one, where you can actually experience it.

bacon612 said:
Also like to agree that OnePlus isn't at the 'premium' level yet.
Returned my op6 to keep v30.
V30 screen is better and supports daydream
Size is better for me op6 is a hair to big.
Prefer no notch
Vibrate motor is the op6 is Mickey mouse
LTE radio is the same as sd845 in v30
I think the v30 camera is better and op6 has two cameras but no wide angle which makes no sense
Op is making strides but they're not there yet. When I returned the device I told them I'd pay $200 more for $200 more phone.
I'm thinking that in October pixel 3 will be the phone to beat. If not, I'll wait till 2019 with v30
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Agreed the vibration is way too intense on the OP6. I hate it, but lowered it with the kernel I use.
V30 has great camera. OP6 has a significantly better camera than the G7, but I've only spent about a week with the G7 so far.
I use my v30 for daydream also, since it came with the daydream viewer.
The, "notch" actually no longer bothers me since I don't form opinions based on the bandwagon internet haters of it. At this point I kinda like it. Before having the OP6 I was one of the idiotic masses who viewed it as a piece of the bezel overlapping the screen, when in reality it's the complete opposite. Theres actually 2 parts of the screen overlapping the bezel. Basically making the speaker, LED, & Camera part of the status bar, so basically the status bar s part of the bezel, giving more screen availability to the user.
But to each their own.
I'm just finished with companies that void warranty for unlocking the Bootloader or rooting and lock me out of having root.
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mcobasjr41 said:
Bacon612 were you able to listen to music thru wired earbuds on the op6? If so could you comment on the audio quality between the V30 and the op6 please?
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I know you're not asking me. But i have both phones in my hand as i type this.
V30 sounds good, very clear. However, the top mounted headphone jack ruins.the entire usage of headphones while mobile.
Another thing about the v30 is that for some stupid reason, they decided to not include an equalizer for the headphone jack (DAC) Which I believe the V10, V20, & G7 do include.
I'm a bass head and NEED the heavy bass in my headphones.
For this, and this is my preference, the OP6 definitely has better sound in earbuds due to the equalizer.
Plus, the OnePlus headphones are 24ohm impedance which make them sound great in the v30 also.
Whereas the LG/B&O earbuds are complete garbage especially for $150.
For earbuds, OnePlus 6 wins.
For driven speakers and extrenal powered sound systems, the V30 kills it due to the immense clarity of the DAC.
The OP6 may not be B&O tuned but surely does have a great quality sound driver!
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I used to feel strongly about having the ability to root, but in recent years it's become less important to me. Possibly because I moved away from bloated Samsung phones (S6 was last) and I discovered Package Disabler app (for Samsung and LG phones). I'm grateful T-Mobile phones have less bloat than Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T versions. Unfortunately T-Mobile phones are usually the last to receive major OS updates.
In regards to the OP6, no wireless charging, no waterproof, and no wide-angle camera are deal breakers for me.

Well after playing with the OP6 the last few days looks like I'm selling my V30. I do see where both phones have their pros and cons but overall I like the 6. The only gripe I had when I first got the phone was the slight difference in the resolution on the display and the sound when listening to music thru my earbuds. But after tweaking the eq to my liking it sounds great. I don't even notice the display anymore since the difference is so minimal. The major plus for me is the huge dev community behind the 6 and looking forward to all tweaks and improvements that go along with that.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to chime in here. Your input was much appreciated.
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It's lonely up here - V50 - will you come?

LG has a present for you...
UPDATE:
Here is what to expect if you head for V50!
Sound quality increased by 5-10% over G7, don't know how much over v30.
RCS messages from Google fully working.
Stellar battery life ~9 hours with some heavy usage - for example downloaded and uploaded today via wifi and lte around 15 GB, one software update, and some 4K60FPS with super steady mode enabled - around 20 min total movies, some photos, 2 hours of tidal with Bluetooth ldac and screen off, the rest for websurfing and YouTube.
Stellar cameras. Best out there. Tested VS note 10 plus and p30pro. P30pro is a big s... t, except in zoom
Stellar display. My wife has regular s10 and V50 is better. Same blacks, same VIVID COLORS, but WAAAAY better WHITE.
Camera software has so many settings, not gimmicks. Really nice video editing software.
Nice design. Those cameras under glass are so sexy.
5G
Really nice Haptic vibrator.
Better boom box speaker compared with g7
Each mobth I got an update. 2 on July, one on August in fact
What else!? TV app and more functions that I didn't had on G7.

4 me? nice

Looking to get some devs over to the v50?

It's a perfect phone. Feel free to ask anything. I can give you feedback.

Stuckurface said:
Looking to get some devs over to the v50?
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kinda

Not even launched in India

Inerent said:
LG has a present for you...
Ask if interested.
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What exactly are you going on about?
And, you do realize (hopefully) that this is the LG V30 subforum, right? Right?

Inerent said:
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First you gotta fix LGs marketing ... especially in Europe... V50 is available at ... what? 2 or 3 carriers (in whole europe).
Otherwise no normal shop even has it, only thing i find (in shops from germany/austria/uk/poland via price comparison site) is an offer from ebay for 900€.

Inerent said:
LG has a present for you...
Ask if interested.
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What, a free phone or something?
Not really interested in any of the 1st generation "5G" phones.

Other than the European dual screen version which v50 is Bootloader unlockable?

lg v50
is it better than v30

Just buy an lg g8
Better price available triple cameras (in europe) and offer the same features as the v50 just if you want DUAL DISPLAY or 5G just waiiiiiiiiiiitttt and throw 200$ for extra nothing

Alibaba0101 said:
Other than the European dual screen version which v50 is Bootloader unlockable?
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Nope. But this phone is so perfect. RCS working. 9 hours SOT, excelent dac and amp, etc
Cameras crushing note 10 and p30 pro, except on zoom. Tested myself.
Amazing display
Our forum is empty...:crying:

Inerent said:
Nope. But this phone is so perfect. RCS working. 9 hours SOT, excelent dac and amp, etc
Cameras crushing note 10 and p30 pro, except on zoom. Tested myself.
Amazing display
Our forum is empty...:crying:
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V60 is coming in couple of months.
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v60
With the V50 appearing to be a flop, LG's trying its hand again with the V60. The V60 is expected to be announced during IFA 2019, and this is everything we know about the phone so far.
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That will be better "5G" phone and better cameras. But I'm still holding onto my V30+.

I hope the V70 (not a typo) won't have a notch or any sort of cut in the screen and keeps the headphone jack. In that case it will be my next phone... in 4 years after i'm done with my V30

Blueice87 said:
I hope the V70 (not a typo) won't have a notch or any sort of cut in the screen and keeps the headphone jack. In that case it will be my next phone... in 4 years after i'm done with my V30
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Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.
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I think you're already set for a few years. The V35 is like the perfect upgrade after a V30

V30 has RCS, VoLTE and Wifi Calling too. My LTE speeds on Sprint are 200 Mbps. Right now there is no incentive for me to upgrade to a battery hogging 5G phone especially with all the health concerns.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, I'm waiting until the notch fiasco goes away.
And I still want headset jack, just because.
But next year (2020) will be V70, and that will be 3 years since 2017 V30, not 4 years...
I kept my last phone 3 years, so I can do it again.
I have a mint 2018 V35 but it's still in the box. Rooted V30+ is my daily phone.
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Why not use the v35 though and keep current v30 as backup? It has better specs

tech_infinity said:
Why not use the v35 though and keep current v30 as backup? It has better specs
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Because overall, my V30+ is better.
V35 is only 64GB internal memory, while my V30+ is 128GB. (The only V35+ was sold in Brazil, and I cannot get it over the internet. Even if I could, they want about $1,200 for it.) Yes, I have microSD card, but I like using internal memory better when possible.
V35 rooting very hard, there's no do-it-yourself. Unless there's something I'm not aware of, you have to ship your phone off to some other country or let someone remote in and hack your phone. I bought it when @runningnak3d was intently working on a root method, but his life focus changed and he no longer does that.
There's a older version of TWRP for V35 -- but no one seems to be using it. No reports it works with Pie. People who do root either can't install TWRP due to no fastboot or just don't seem to be using it. There's no devs over there working on it.
If just wanted to run a non-rooted phone with the same internal memory I had back in 2014 (64GB Moto Quark), yes it's a great phone.
My current phone has 128GB internal memory (plus my microSD card), is rooted. I have all the tweets and mods that I want. Anxious V30 module gives me updated camera features, plus dual speaker mode. With Xposed, I have the status bar icons I want. I have call auto recording, lots of other stuff. I see no reason to change right now.
I'm keeping the V35, of course -- and at some point may be my wife's "new" phone. I was just hoping for something as good as my V30+.
I waited 3 years between my 2014 Moto Quark and the 2017 LG V30, and I can wait another 3 years.

Should I upgrade?

Hey, I currently have a LG V30 and I’m thinking about upgrading to a OnePlus 7t. I’m on the fence tho cuz I really don’t need a new phone. My V30 is lagging when switching from a website to an app and visa versa. It sometimes takes a number of seconds to open an app if I was doing something else. I know any new phone would be quicker but is the 7t really a lot better than the v30? Some YouTube videos made it seem like they were very similar performance wise. I don’t want to throw $500 out the window unless this would be an absolute step up despite the lags on my V30. Otherwise I was thinking about waiting for the supposed galaxy s10 note lite that I heard would be coming out for about the same price. Any help would be appreciated!

I would look to fix the problem(s) with the v30. Maybe clear system cache or factory restore? Have you considered switching launchers etc?
I don't see it as an "upgrade" more a side step
If you want a new phone maybe wait for the 8th series by oneplus. There is talk about a "lite" version which sounds interesting.

I came from a V30 and I'll say it definitely felt like an upgrade to me. I put the 7T and the V30 side by side and it was night and day with performance. More RAM, higher refresh rate, running Android 10 (which the V30 will probably never get), I'd say it's an upgrade. I didn't feel like I really NEEDED a new phone either when I was looking at the 7T but I'm glad I got it. The only thing I'm missing is wireless charging and an SD card slot. Both of which I have adjusted to.

Re: Should I upgrade/buy new?
I have cleared the cache and cleaned the system, powered off and restarted and deleted apps I wasn't using. I always have this problem with my phones...after a couple of years they start bogging down. I also wonder about just getting a great performing $200-$300 phone and replacing it every other year so I'm not having to deal with the lagging. I know Motorola's budget phones are good and I have had them before but at least when they start lagging they start dying too...
I have an inexpensive ipad and I really like it....never had an iphone...do they lag after a couple of years too?
Any advice would be helpfull.

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I came from a V30 and I'll say it definitely felt like an upgrade to me. I put the 7T and the V30 side by side and it was night and day with performance. More RAM, higher refresh rate, running Android 10 (which the V30 will probably never get), I'd say it's an upgrade. I didn't feel like I really NEEDED a new phone either when I was looking at the 7T but I'm glad I got it. The only thing I'm missing is wireless charging and an SD card slot. Both of which I have adjusted to.
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Thanks! This really helps. I guess I really need to go look at it. Since you had the v30...one feature I LOVE about LG is the Quick Note capture ...I think I would really miss that...does the OnePlus have something similar?

Deetles98 said:
Thanks! This really helps. I guess I really need to go look at it. Since you had the v30...one feature I LOVE about LG is the Quick Note capture ...I think I would really miss that...does the OnePlus have something similar?
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You're talking about the double tap volume up to take a note right? Sadly, no. Not exactly in that way anyway. The 7T does have a feature where you can put your thumb on the in screen fingerprint sensor to unlock and hold it and you have a little customizable "wheel" of sorts of apps and shortcuts. One of which can be a shortcut to take a note. It taps in to all the shortcuts of other apps too so you can actually use Google Keep if you want. It doesn't have the other Capture+ features either though which I do miss. Being able to screenshot only a section of the screen (which I did find an app for) or gif capture. It does have extended screenshot though if you need that.

Not sure if there is a big enough performance difference
Not sure if there is a big enough performance difference? Also, can I alternate my SIM card between the V30 and OnePlus 7t? I have work apps on the v30 I need to be able to use....

as a previous owner of V30:
(+) regarding speed, yes 1+ will be far faster and it is far faster even compared to most recent flagships if not all
(+) back fingerprint reader was the only flaw of v30, 1+ fingerprint is better than most recent flagships if not all and better placed
(-) comfort is gone, 1+ is too heavy and thicker (brick)
(-) the popular features are gone: SD, jack, wireless charging, radio and notification light
(-) no more MIL-STD-810G, IP68 certificates, QC certificate, Dolby Vision certificate, B&O certificate feat. audiofile DAC -- 1+ #NeverSettle certificate payments to ramp up their margins
(+-) battery will be the same i guess
1+ is not yet the same league as V30, for example only now they implemented USB3, something the old LG had centuries ago. Just like this LG model had HDR when people didn't even know what it is. Incredible for year 2017. Keep your gem and wait for 1+ 9T Lite without notch and lightweight I sold my used V30 for higher price than market price, that's how people appreciate its coolness. And i had lot of flagships after, none of them are better.

Question First oneplus device

Hi all I’ve just ordered the oneplus 9 pro as it’s my first oneplus device can I ask a few questions
is the cameras as bad as some are making out I had the note 20 ultra and just got the iPhone 12 Pro Max (going back hate iOS lol) are the op9 cameras at least on par with these
is the display any good I mean does the 1 billion colours ect make a difference and does it get bright for hdr playback
are the speakers decent as well
last question it’s been years since rooting as I’ve mainly had Samsung devices and didn’t like tripping Knox ect, is they any problems with woofing and flashing custom roms like tripping Knox or loosing drm keys anything like that (if I flash back to stock will it be as if it was never rooted)
thanks

You run the risk of losing drm keys when unlocking bootloader, but relocking bootloader fixes it most of the time. There's no Knox, so no need to worry.
Cam is decent enough, I know there's been a lot of letdowns with Hasselblad, but if you really need good cam go get a DSLR.
Speakers are fine enough for me, I'm no audiophile, but you can use Viper4android to tune it or add real Dolby Audio with a Magisk module.
Display is good, at least coming from someone with an S10 5G lol.
Rooting is easily done as long as you don't get a TMO phone. If you still get a Tmobile phone, you must get a sim unlock before a bootloader one.

brockyneo said:
Hi all I’ve just ordered the oneplus 9 pro as it’s my first oneplus device can I ask a few questions
is the cameras as bad as some are making out I had the note 20 ultra and just got the iPhone 12 Pro Max (going back hate iOS lol) are the op9 cameras at least on par with these
is the display any good I mean does the 1 billion colours ect make a difference and does it get bright for hdr playback
are the speakers decent as well
last question it’s been years since rooting as I’ve mainly had Samsung devices and didn’t like tripping Knox ect, is they any problems with woofing and flashing custom roms like tripping Knox or loosing drm keys anything like that (if I flash back to stock will it be as if it was never rooted)
thanks
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Camera is on par with the big boys, specially after the updates the main difference is the hit or miss factor is a little higher to to put it in simple terms if the iPhone takes 10 images all will be usable and 8 will be amazing the Oneplus will be 9 useable and 7 amazing. but at night its just on another league.
The display is as good as it gets on a phone.
Speakers are decent and very very usable.
Rooting and bootloader unlocking is easy, just back up your stuff and always remember the phone might brick at any moment so having a backup for everything is really important.
DRM keys are restored after a bootloader lock.

razercortex said:
You run the risk of losing drm keys when unlocking bootloader, but relocking bootloader fixes it most of the time. There's no Knox, so no need to worry.
Cam is decent enough, I know there's been a lot of letdowns with Hasselblad, but if you really need good cam go get a DSLR.
Speakers are fine enough for me, I'm no audiophile, but you can use Viper4android to tune it or add real Dolby Audio with a Magisk module.
Display is good, at least coming from someone with an S10 5G lol.
Rooting is easily done as long as you don't get a TMO phone. If you still get a Tmobile phone, you must get a sim unlock before a bootloader
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awsan said:
Camera is on par with the big boys, specially after the updates the main difference is the hit or miss factor is a little higher to to put it in simple terms if the iPhone takes 10 images all will be usable and 8 will be amazing the Oneplus will be 9 useable and 7 amazing. but at night its just on another league.
The display is as good as it gets on a phone.
Speakers are decent and very very usable.
Rooting and bootloader unlocking is easy, just back up your stuff and always remember the phone might brick at any moment so having a backup for everything is really important.
DRM keys are restored after a bootloader lock.
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Thanks for the reply when you say at night it’s a different league do you mean the one plus is good in the night?
Thanks

brockyneo said:
Thanks for the reply when you say at night it’s a different league do you mean the one plus is good in the night?
Thanks
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Yes, the Oneplus is better.

This should be your main phone, IF
You value custom roms and unlocked BL
You like a 120hz LTPO panel
Shelling out 900-1000 dollars (in most cases) is OK with you

Thanks for the reply’s I mainly want it to be a decent camera and a top not screen with regular updates and fixes and decent sound quality
will all the updates would you say it’s better then the iPhone 12 Pro Max camera?
is it true that the sensor in the op9 is the newest Sony sensor and it’s quite a bit bigger then the iPhone

Also does anyone notice any different between the 1 billion colours vs 16m

brockyneo said:
Thanks for the reply’s I mainly want it to be a decent camera and a top not screen with regular updates and fixes and decent sound quality
will all the updates would you say it’s better then the iPhone 12 Pro Max camera?
is it true that the sensor in the op9 is the newest Sony sensor and it’s quite a bit bigger then the iPhone
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Its a toss up between the both in camera quality, the problem with reviews is that they have limited time with limited sceneries.
I have been using the 12 pro max and the OP9p since release, the 12 has a weird processing that has been adapted as the phone industry standard for some reason although its not the closest to real life
(Its weird how reviewers kept pushing the narrative that close to reality is best but suddenly its quite the opposite and what looks fun is best)
the portraits look warm and full of life on the 12 compared to the 9 (Weirdly enough the 8 pro had a very close portrait processing to the 12 pro max)
Skin tone is more natural on the 9 after the updates specially with darker skin subjects.
HDR is more aggressive on the 9 most of the time but it doesn't have that over processed quality to it.
A lot of people will be disappointed the second they start using the camera because of how different it looks to the iPhone but when you compare them side to side you instantly see that they are 99% identical in 90% of the scenarios (With the 9 having the higher res)
Video is still an iPhone thing although its really good on the 9
And yes it has the newest two sensors from Sony imx766 and imx789
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Also does anyone notice any different between the 1 billion colours vs 16m
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its a marketing gimmick, its really an amazing panel and you will love watching hdr stuff on it.

brockyneo said:
Thanks for the reply’s I mainly want it to be a decent camera and a top not screen with regular updates and fixes and decent sound quality
will all the updates would you say it’s better then the iPhone 12 Pro Max camera?
is it true that the sensor in the op9 is the newest Sony sensor and it’s quite a bit bigger then the iPhone
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Let's see those pics in real life situations. Here's mine with the latest software release
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awsan said:
Its a toss up between the both in camera quality, the problem with reviews is that they have limited time with limited sceneries.
I have been using the 12 pro max and the OP9p since release, the 12 has a weird processing that has been adapted as the phone industry standard for some reason although its not the closest to real life
(Its weird how reviewers kept pushing the narrative that close to reality is best but suddenly its quite the opposite and what looks fun is best)
the portraits look warm and full of life on the 12 compared to the 9 (Weirdly enough the 8 pro had a very close portrait processing to the 12 pro max)
Skin tone is more natural on the 9 after the updates specially with darker skin subjects.
HDR is more aggressive on the 9 most of the time but it doesn't have that over processed quality to it.
A lot of people will be disappointed the second they start using the camera because of how different it looks to the iPhone but when you compare them side to side you instantly see that they are 99% identical in 90% of the scenarios (With the 9 having the higher res)
Video is still an iPhone thing although its really good on the 9
And yes it has the newest two sensors from Sony imx766 and imx789
its a marketing gimmick, its really an amazing panel and you will love watching hdr stuff on it.
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Thanks for the reply’s I currently have the iPhone 12 Pro Max as well so out of the two would you rather keep the op9?
also I’ve heard around the forums that the op9 struggles in dark areas on hdr content is this true or can the display settings be tweaked with

brockyneo said:
Thanks for the reply’s I currently have the iPhone 12 Pro Max as well so out of the two would you rather keep the op9?
also I’ve heard around the forums that the op9 struggles in dark areas on hdr content is this true or can the display settings be tweaked with
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And does the whole 1 billion colour gimmick run all the time or just in supported apps ect cause if so I’m assuming there isn’t much to take advantage of it

Also I’ve downloaded YouTube vanced but it seems to have a totally different colour tone to the videos ect compared to the official YouTube app
seems as if it’s not using and of the display tech modes from one plus

brockyneo said:
Also I’ve downloaded YouTube vanced but it seems to have a totally different colour tone to the videos ect compared to the official YouTube app
seems as if it’s not using and of the display tech modes from one plus
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There are max brightness etc settings in YouTube vanced. Look around in there

Camera? If you work for Samsung, iphose, yes..., is bad.. ohh, the worse..
The display is the best on the market. I don't like the curved edges, but that is another story..
Oxygen is one of the best, clean Android. Samsung is champion of bloatware!
OnePlus phones are known for easy to root.

What would you guys say has the best display out of the oneplus 9 pro and the s21 ultra?

Hi all I'm looking at maybe keeping this device if its better then the s21 ultra (exynos)
Just a question I'm looking at rooting and flashing a custom rom do I need to unlock the bootloader if I'm flashing a oos built rom and custom kernel?
Also is there work arounds for banking apps,Netflix etc
And do we loose any features at all that cannot be reverted like knox in samsung devices

I never buy Samsung with exynos !!!
You can NOT root without unlocking the bootloader.
No. OnePlus is not Samsung Creap! You can revert to factory settings.

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You run the risk of losing drm keys when unlocking bootloader, but relocking bootloader fixes it most of the time. There's no Knox, so no need to worry.
Cam is decent enough, I know there's been a lot of letdowns with Hasselblad, but if you really need good cam go get a DSLR.
Speakers are fine enough for me, I'm no audiophile, but you can use Viper4android to tune it or add real Dolby Audio with a Magisk module.
Display is good, at least coming from someone with an S10 5G lol.
Rooting is easily done as long as you don't get a TMO phone. If you still get a Tmobile phone, you must get a sim unlock before a bootloader one.
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you were able to get viper running on it? ive been trying for weeks wiht no luck gets stuck on a loop of installing drivers.

I haven't tried, but it should work fine. If you have a problem running it, let me know.

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

aman2125 said:
Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

RumRunner19 said:
Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

cultofluna said:
DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

vangry2020 said:
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

cranberry_vanilla said:
It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

vangry2020 said:
Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.